We want RUGBY manager !!!

[ilovebarbu]

Hie there,

I don't know if this has already been discussed on the forums, but I'm a die-hard fan of Football manager for over a decade, and the idea of a Rugby manager would be so great now that the sport has expanded well.

Any thoughts

[Some Guy!]

The issue is that you'd have to include Rugby League and Union in one for realism with the the way players move between the two these days.

Could be a lot of fun!

[ilovebarbu]

The issue is that you'd have to include Rugby League and Union in one for realism with the the way players move between the two these days.

Could be a lot of fun!

Agreed on that point but with the major 6 nations of North plus the 3 of South you have a nice amount of potential, even more with the importance of national squads compared to football.

Cyanide give it a try years ago, but never went through, with the SIGames expertise it would be just totally awesome and there's a loaded market for that kind of sim !

[Some Guy!]

Definitely a risk though. The thing about football manager is that there's always been a market for it as it and its predecessors have always been there (in the computer age). The problem is you need to get that market share. At least the system is already there, they'd basically need a match engine and ratings and scouts for a database. That sounds simple but the investment would require them to need to know that there's a market base.

To be fair a much better options to try first would be a challenger to International Cricket Captain. That series hasn't really progressed since about 5-10 years back. If SI got in there with an up to date game they'd definitely be in with a chance. There's a hard core market already there frustrated by the lack of development of the current games in market and quite frankly I see no reason why they shouldn't go for it.

Both sports (well, 3 if you chuck Rugby League in with Union!) could use a top notch manager sim!

[jackripper]

who would wanna manage england after there defeat today...come on Wales...................

[furiousuk]

I'm a rugby man so I'd love this. I know a bit of coding and have often thought about creating a Rugby Manager game myself built basically on the principles of FM (well, it was CM when I first attempted this idea!!).

Still not sure there would be enough of a market to make it viable for a large company to take on. Football is a global game, rugby not so much and, whereas FM entices gaming enthusiasts as well as football enthusiasts I'm not sure RM would. Plus, rugby is nowhere near as technical as football and certainly nowhere near as tactical although I've had some ideas of how to introduce something like tactical tweaking to a rugby management game.

[doubledutch]

I would love an American football manager, wouldn't be interested in a rugby one though, way too small time imo.

[Some Guy!]

I would love an American football manager, wouldn't be interested in a rugby one though, way too small time imo.

American Football is small time...

Rugby is actually played in more than one Country.

[furiousuk]

Top 10 most popular sports:
http://www.fanatix.com/worlds-top-mo...r-team-sports/

No prizes for guessing footy at the top, cricket is 2nd due largely to it's popularity in the Indian sub-continent whilst basketball & baseball, although not popular in Europe particularly, top rugby for world popularity.

American Football is a lowly 9th but is the most popular sport in the USA. An American Football management game could be very involved as the coaches in American Football often call the plays so this is whole new avenue that football or rugby can't exploit.

[pigfacemonkeyman]

Enough people have problems getting their head's round the offside rules in football, so rugby offside rules would scramble a fair few brains. I'm not sure it would be popular enough to be commercially viable. Nice thought though.

[Some Guy!]

Top 10 most popular sports:
http://www.fanatix.com/worlds-top-mo...r-team-sports/

No prizes for guessing footy at the top, cricket is 2nd due largely to it's popularity in the Indian sub-continent whilst basketball & baseball, although not popular in Europe particularly, top rugby for world popularity.

American Football is a lowly 9th but is the most popular sport in the USA. An American Football management game could be very involved as the coaches in American Football often call the plays so this is whole new avenue that football or rugby can't exploit.

There are a few issues which would probably mean that SI would be unlikely to have a pop at such a market:

1. Whilst American Football is the most popular sport in America, outside of America its pretty much a nonissue
2. I'm unaware of any games like FM in the American Football market
- Whilst this might seem like a good niche that they could exploit the question is more whether or not this kind of game would fly in America
- Think back to that review of FM09 I think it was by... IGN America? I can't remember who actually, but essentially they gave FM09 (I think) 2/10 or something like that stating that the graphics were poor and that you didn't get to actually play as the players. It was retracted by the company
3. SI don't have much experience in the American market either do they?

A combined Rugby Union and Rugby League manager game could be something interesting, but again its an untested market. The issue is that this type of game is hard to get people into. Once they're in they're stuck, but getting them in is the hard part. The fact that there are already Cricket Management games means that there is a market there and the fact that their creators have well and truly dropped the ball in recent years means that SI could chuck in a cheeky little franchise...

I know it won't happen, but one can dream.

[furiousuk]

A combined Rugby Union and Rugby League manager game could be something interesting, but again its an untested market. The issue is that this type of game is hard to get people into. Once they're in they're stuck, but getting them in is the hard part. The fact that there are already Cricket Management games means that there is a market there and the fact that their creators have well and truly dropped the ball in recent years means that SI could chuck in a cheeky little franchise...

I know it won't happen, but one can dream.

Its not a totally untested market, there was a rugby management game out sometime between 2000-2005, I know because I was in it!! Don't think it did very well and other rugby games by EA for the console market haven't done particularly well although I believe there is one coming out (or maybe already out?) to coincide with the rugby World Cup which maybe will do better - the main problem with old rugby games is that, as games, FIFA or PES are streets ahead, if the rugby game was a comparable game that still flopped then maybe better conclusions could be drawn on rugby-based computer games.

The problem with combining League and Union is that they are 2 separate games which further hinders new gamers. There would have to be 2 separate computer games and each would have to simulate the other to some extent due to players switching codes. The best way would be for agents to tout unattached players that you could then make a bid for (they would be attached to a club, just not to a club in the game).

I agree with you about the Cricket games, and, unfortunately, I know that SI won't make it happen. But maybe someone else will.

[Some Guy!]

Its not a totally untested market, there was a rugby management game out sometime between 2000-2005, I know because I was in it!! Don't think it did very well and other rugby games by EA for the console market haven't done particularly well although I believe there is one coming out (or maybe already out?) to coincide with the rugby World Cup which maybe will do better - the main problem with old rugby games is that, as games, FIFA or PES are streets ahead, if the rugby game was a comparable game that still flopped then maybe better conclusions could be drawn on rugby-based computer games.

The problem with combining League and Union is that they are 2 separate games which further hinders new gamers. There would have to be 2 separate computer games and each would have to simulate the other to some extent due to players switching codes. The best way would be for agents to tout unattached players that you could then make a bid for (they would be attached to a club, just not to a club in the game).

I agree with you about the Cricket games, and, unfortunately, I know that SI won't make it happen. But maybe someone else will.

There's no reason why you can't have both sports in one, just have then inactive. Much like the vast majority of World Leagues in FM. You'd never play them so it wouldn't matter what sport they really play. You could choose to have one or the other active or even both. No reason why it couldn't happen. It would be a lot of work and investment though for the company making the game.

[pigfacemonkeyman]

There's no reason why you can't have both sports in one, just have then inactive. Much like the vast majority of World Leagues in FM. You'd never play them so it wouldn't matter what sport they really play. You could choose to have one or the other active or even both. No reason why it couldn't happen. It would be a lot of work and investment though for the company making the game.

It think that an attempt to attract enough interest by including both codes would backfire, the different rules for each code make them two different games, computer gamewise.
And the 'snobbery' factor, although not as bad as in my day, still exists.

[Some Guy!]

It think that an attempt to attract enough interest by including both codes would backfire, the different rules for each code make them two different games, computer gamewise.
And the 'snobbery' factor, although not as bad as in my day, still exists.

The hooligan's game played by gentlemen and the gentlemen's game played by hooligans!

[pigfacemonkeyman]

The hooligan's game played by gentlemen and the gentlemen's game played by hooligans!

I'll have you know sir there is only one game of rugby.

[Some Guy!]

I'll have you know sir there is only one game of rugby.

Hahaha...

Good fun!

The issue with a game with only one in though is that it just wouldn't be Rugby in Australia with players changing codes... Then again a few are jumping ship to the AFL these days! I think it's the short shorts and pity points that gets them!

[pigfacemonkeyman]

OK, just remembered getting Subbuteo Rugby in the early seventies, I would hope that a modern Rugby management game would be a zillion times more playable than that that was.

I would definately try this. (no pun intended)

[davidmcain]

There is a Rugby League one out there. Google Rugby League Manager 2010 and you'll find it. Quite realistic too. Freeware actually, downloaded it last year and played it a fair bit. Its not as in depth as FM2011 but still a quality game.

[pigfacemonkeyman]

There is a Rugby League one out there. Google Rugby League Manager 2010 and you'll find it. Quite realistic too. Freeware actually, downloaded it last year and played it a fair bit. Its not as in depth as FM2011 but still a quality game.

I was all excited for a second, then I noticed 'League', not that I'm a snob or anything like that err...some of my best friends are rugby league players and err...
I prefer Union. Might still give this a go tho'.


EDIT: Thanks davidmcain, there is a Rugby Union 2011 version as well.

[ArsenalFan7]

I don't because I don't find any interest in Rugby

Let some other company concentrate on Rugby Manager, I'd rather these geniuses at SI spend their time putting effort into the greatest game around Football Manager

[Quads]

who cares about eggchasing?

[garethclem2003]

www.rugbyunionmanager.co.uk

[oi_oi_ginger_roy]

who cares about eggchasing?

^^ what he said

[furiousuk]

www.rugbyunionmanager.co.uk

Colourful isn't it? I've got a headache just looking at the screenies

[Bradley21]

Screw this, i want ice hockey manager back

[ArsenalFan7]

Rugby Union Manager looks disgusting I think even if I was a rugby fan that game would still be shocking!

[Bradley21]

Jesus, those colours made me sick in my mouth a little...

[ism-scfc]

who cares about eggchasing?

This

Although I might even buy it to see how many leagues I can get S**e S***ks relegated without getting sacked!

[Alan A Wadge]

it does look a bit like FM but doesn't it?

[SnakeXe]

That Rugby Union Manager definitely looks like a horrifically coloured mod of the FM07 skin.

[AndyRich]

no, no WE dont :P

[William Hall]

The same guy makes Rugby League Manager, which explains how off the stats are.

Anyway we want Rugby League Manager.

[Deisler26]

No. WE don't. But knock yourselves out getting one.

If SI aren't going to release a Turkish version, they're DEFINITELY not going to release a Rugby version

[Wiitastic]

http://au.gamespot.com/pc/sports/pro...er2/index.html

Pro Rugby Manager, knock yourself out guys

by the way, Rugby Manager will never happen so don't get your hopes up.

Would prefer NFL type manager/coach game

[Johnjo]

There is an AFL (australian rules football) sim. Looks a lot like FM. Never played it though as I hate aerial ping pong

http://forum.premiership-coach.com/D...g=posts&t=2601

[rancer890]

EHM failed. FML failed. SI split with OOTP. Rugby manager isn't going to work either unless they spend time and money to market the game. And two red flags are enough to see that they should realistically just stick with FM.

EHM failed because the top hockey nations never knew about the game back then. Canada has 30 million wannabe armchair hockey managers and lots of people in the US love hockey too. SI surely could have gotten into the market easily if people knew about the game.

[Donners]

This thread comes up every few months on OTF, and it gets comprehensively shot down there as well.

[shirajzl]

Many people here are from UK and/or its former colonies so you lot are into rugby, cricket and such. The truth is, there is no financially viable market for such a game, as the continental Europe don't give two shi*s about sports like rugby. I don't think anyone at SI (or any other big gaming company) is willing to invest money into a game that would be popular in just a handful of countries.

[Mr.Bojangles]

EHM failed. FML failed. SI split with OOTP. Rugby manager isn't going to work either unless they spend time and money to market the game. And two red flags are enough to see that they should realistically just stick with FM.

EHM failed because the top hockey nations never knew about the game back then. Canada has 30 million wannabe armchair hockey managers and lots of people in the US love hockey too. SI surely could have gotten into the market easily if people knew about the game.

EHM advertising in Canada and the USA was like a really, really slow Blair Witch Project. A lot of people still turn up on the biggest (real life) ice hockey forum and are delighted and astonished at what a great game EHM 2007 was. In the last couple of weeks there have been two people asking how to buy the game (but are now unable to).

I have no idea what Sega were thinking with their advertising. Why concentrate on markets that don't really care (like Britain) when they completely ignored the two biggest markets for the game. I wonder what their advertising was like in Finland, Germany, Sweden, Russia, and the Baltics. If it was as badly focused as the North American campaign it's obvious why it failed.

Though I now wonder if part of the reason it failed was because someone had the idea for FML. Pretty sure that development halted on EHM at the same time as development probably started on FML.


As for Rugby manager? The sport isn't worldwide, or popular in the biggest video game markets (North America or Asia).

[Wiitastic]

There is an AFL (australian rules football) sim. Looks a lot like FM. Never played it though as I hate aerial ping pong

http://forum.premiership-coach.com/D...g=posts&t=2601

there is a better 1 for Nintendo Wii and PS3 called AFL Coach

[Johnjo]

Haha cool a sports management game on the Wii, would be interested to see how that works.

[Deisler26]

EHM failed. FML failed. SI split with OOTP. Rugby manager isn't going to work either unless they spend time and money to market the game. And two red flags are enough to see that they should realistically just stick with FM.

EHM failed because the top hockey nations never knew about the game back then. Canada has 30 million wannabe armchair hockey managers and lots of people in the US love hockey too. SI surely could have gotten into the market easily if people knew about the game.

God, I miss EHM

[ilovebarbu]

www.rugbyunionmanager.co.uk

Awesome, I'll give it a try for sure ... if I don't get epilectic reading the player's guide !

This link alone made the thread worse

And don't tell me if someone can put a freeware like that together SIGames can't devellop a decent game without going bankrupt lol

[William Hall]

Many people here are from UK and/or its former colonies so you lot are into rugby, cricket and such. The truth is, there is no financially viable market for such a game, as the continental Europe don't give two shi*s about sports like rugby. I don't think anyone at SI (or any other big gaming company) is willing to invest money into a game that would be popular in just a handful of countries.

EA make a yawnion game every year. I'm pretty sure they are a big gaming company.

[NeilUK]

For those wanting an American Football management game there is a very good one from Sports Mogul, Baseball as well, a good feature is the archive databases where you can start a game from say , 1990 and have the correct rosters and also all the future players arrive on the scene at the time they did in real life. You can also go back as far as the early 1900's if you want all with accurate databases.

http://www.sportsmogul.com/games.html

[SCIAG]

EHM wasn't helped by the massive levels of piracy around it. I think that would be a problem with any other sports simulation tbh. FM gets by because it has a huge number of users willing to pay which makes up for the piracy.

[Marty_Abs]

I would rather see a nice in depth F1 management game than a rugby one. Used to love playing grand prix manager and team f1 many moons ago, but would like to see a nice new one, not interested in graphics of the race, more just the details of the mechanics and aerodynamics of the cars.

[deerokus]

There is an American Football management game, but it's a little old now (they developer patches it and updates the database from time to time). Front Office Football (and its college-based counterpart, the College Years). It's much less accessible and user-friendly than FM.

http://www.solecismic.com/fof/index.php

The biggest roadblock to SI would be that the NFL licence is exorbitantly expensive and is exclusive to EA. EA tried a management-style NFL game (though it was really more like a more in-depth Madden Franchise mode than a full-on management game), and it flopped.

[tom180]

Summing it up:
Rugby Union: http://www.rugbyunionmanager.co.uk/Games.php
AFL (Aussie Rules): http://premiership-coach.info/
Rugby League: http://www.rugbyleaguemanager.co.uk/Games.php
NFL/Football and Baseball: http://www.sportsmogul.com/games.html

[Some Guy!]

The Rugby manager's have the worst colour schemes of all time!

[Johnjo]

There is an NBA sim by wolverine studios, and a college basketball sim by greydog. They both make a few other sims as well (wrestling or golf anyone?)

Anyone played the cycling manager sim?

[davidmcain]

Johnjo,
The Cycling Manager game is awesome, well the 2009 version anyway. I would recommend it as its probably only improved. Cadel win Tour de France and you want a Cycling game hey?

[Johnjo]

Cadel win Tour de France and you want a Cycling game hey?

Haha yeh cadel did us proud, seen the game a few times but never got around to playing it.

[pigfacemonkeyman]

Anyone know if there is a beach volleyball management game.

[cloughie09]

I would love a rugby league manager game and these are the reasons it would work:

1. It is played by 70 countires spanning every continent. INC. USA, France and the far east.

2. It has a quick game speed and is easy to follow for football fans

3. If they are not ure it will sell simply do a demo or short verison and add it to the disk like the ice hockey one and see how many people play it.

4. Why be called sports interactive if you arnt going to try new sports, yes football is th e biggest sport in the world but Rugby league is the fastest growing

And finally I garuntee it will sell as more people like it than care to admit to as its there second sport

[Ter]

Why be called sports interactive if you arnt going to try new sports, yes football is th e biggest sport in the world but Rugby league is the fastest growing

Because Football Interactive sounds rubbish

Not many companies are prepared to take a risk with new games. It would take a considerable amount of time and effort to make a rugby game and to be honest, there are very few people (I'm aware of) at SI who like rugby.

[mackemforever]

I would love a rugby league manager game and these are the reasons it would work:

1. It is played by 70 countires spanning every continent. INC. USA, France and the far east. - Can't argue with this point.

2. It has a quick game speed and is easy to follow for football fans - Can't argue with this one either.

3. If they are not ure it will sell simply do a demo or short verison and add it to the disk like the ice hockey one and see how many people play it. - Now the problems start! Do you have any idea how many people it takes to get any game from scratch to the stage where they can release a demo? By the time you have got the game to the demo you have spent so much money that there is no way you can scrap the project, unless you're somebody like EA who have money to burn. Also, there is no way that the existing SI team could do this with their current level of staff without it harming the development of FM. So to do this SI would have to hire a huge amount of new staff, which costs them a huge amount, provide all the equipment for the new staff, probably buy new office space to cope with the new influx of staff, all more money. Not gonna happen.

4. Why be called sports interactive if you arnt going to try new sports, yes football is th e biggest sport in the world but Rugby league is the fastest growing - Why are EA called Electronic Arts? Games are not viewed as a form of art, electronic or otherwise. The brach of EA, EA Sports, what new sports do they ever try now? None, they stick with the same ones year after year. A name means nothing, it is a brand, nothing more.

And finally I garuntee it will sell as more people like it than care to admit to as its there second sport - You guarantee it will sell? How do you do that? Do you have years of experience in the games industry that you're not mentioning, a long history of promoting games and developing new games? Do you have the ability to tap into the consciousness of everybody in the world? There is no way to guarantee a game will sell, every single game ever released has been a calculated risk.

To conclude this post, the only 3 points you made that actually relate to the idea of the game are all pointless.

[Paris Hilton's Lover]

It is played by 70 countries and only 3 have professional teams.

[cloughie09]

It is played by 70 countries and only 3 have professional teams.

England, Australia, New Zealand, France and the US(starting in 2012/13) also half of football manager is Semi pro

[cloughie09]

To conclude this post, the only 3 points you made that actually relate to the idea of the game are all pointless.

Not really it doesn't need to be brilliant at first to gain a perspective of what it can do, also EA are EA beacuse they don't just do sport, why have ther word sport if you arnt willing to try new things.

And I garuntee it will sell simply because of how many rugby league fans play football manager

[Almondo]

Not really it doesn't need to be brilliant at first to gain a perspective of what it can do, also EA are EA beacuse they don't just do sport, why have ther word sport if you arnt willing to try new things.

And I garuntee it will sell simply because of how many rugby league fans play football manager

It does need to be brilliant right off the bat especially the way the games industry is now. Do you really think that if COD 4 wasn't a great game from the off it would have sold as well as it had done. If a new IP is brought out and doesn't sell or is not great straight away it won't be brought back for another iteration no matter who the developer is.

[cloughie09]

It does need to be brilliant right off the bat especially the way the games industry is now. Do you really think that if COD 4 wasn't a great game from the off it would have sold as well as it had done. If a new IP is brought out and doesn't sell or is not great straight away it won't be brought back for another iteration no matter who the developer is.

It doesn't need to be brilliant as there is nothing out there to compare it to apart from a bloke freeware version, I'd try it myself but I'm not that good with computers. I understand that it needs to be good but the platform is there with football manager it just needs adaptingN I'm not saying that won't take up time and effort, but they don't need to sell it with the addition of using the internet it could litrally be an add-on for one year and see how many people give it a go and give positive feedback.

[cloughie09]

Because Football Interactive sounds rubbish

Not many companies are prepared to take a risk with new games. It would take a considerable amount of time and effort to make a rugby game and to be honest, there are very few people (I'm aware of) at SI who like rugby.

No not many are willing to risk it but that's the problem, I understand that not everyone likes rugby and that pretty much everyone there are football fans that makes complete sense and shows with the great games that keep coming out but if I can think of many a person who I know from rugby who I have played with and against where we have talked about football manager. Rugby league is bigger than people realise because of the exposure it doesn't get or deserves.

[Wiitastic]

So this thread was bumped up after over 2 months ? I dont blame the OP but I do blame Cloghie09. An idea that has always been knocked back & an idea that will never happen. End of story

[IWWROCKS]

can't win on here, if you bump an old thread your told you should let an old topic die, if you start a new thread your told to use the search function as there is already threads on the issue! Quite funny

[cloughie09]

Sorry forgot that as a new member I'm not allowed to express my views ill remember that

[Barside]

No not many are willing to risk it but that's the problem, I understand that not everyone likes rugby and that pretty much everyone there are football fans that makes complete sense and shows with the great games that keep coming out but if I can think of many a person who I know from rugby who I have played with and against where we have talked about football manager. Rugby league is bigger than people realise because of the exposure it doesn't get or deserves.

What would be the potential market for a Rugby based management game?

The first thing to look at is the population of the countries where Rugby is a leading sport & that country does not have a huge problem with software piracy so we can initially rule out Russia, Argentina, Romania, Georgia & possibly S.Africa due to piracy, USA, Canada, Japan & the Pacific Island nations on the fact that there will not be any kind of market for the game.

We are now left with the UK (pop. 60m) NZ (pop. 4.5m) Australia (pop.22m) France (pop.63m) Ireland (pop 4.5m)

Once you calculate your potential customer base by reducing the pure population numbers to a figure that more accurately reflects to sports gaming market & the interest in the specific sport you are at a guess looking at somewhere close to 10% of what FM clocks up, I'm afraid the potential user base does not exist to justify the development costs.

[ChelseaSince86]

I for one wouldn't touch rugby manager. Can't stand the sport, hate it with a passion. Rugby and Golf are 2 sports I'd immediately abolish if i had the chance

[Gandy]

If you had both leagues combined into one game, wouldn’t that mean two match-engines (due to the different rules for league and union). I am probably wrong.

[lee_uk]

american footy sim for me

[LiquidFury]

England, Australia, New Zealand, France and the US(starting in 2012/13) also half of football manager is Semi pro

Don't forget Wales and Ireland.

It's a nice idea, and I would be interested in RM, but I doubt the market is big enough to make it viable.

[Alexandre]

Handball Manager. I know it's not popular in UK but it is very enjoyable to watch.

http://handball-manager.com/

[avine]

It's a nice idea, and I would be interested in RM, not to give up football or football manager, more as an additional sport game

[bluebirds4life]

This game would certainly have popular demand, would be brilliant if this could work.

[sparkysrovers]

I asked Miles before and he said they looked into it, but their wouldnt be a big enough market for it to make money off it.

[HELP ME WITH FM PLS]

Basketball manager would be a better idea, played in more countries, and china's most popular sport so gauranteed market

[HELP ME WITH FM PLS]

Basketball manager would be a better idea, played in more countries, and china's most popular sport so gauranteed market, plus there are NBA, Euroleagues, Balkans League, Spanish league, Italian League, russian league, latvian league, chinese league etc etc

[DANNY1000000]

Thumbs down to rugby!

[Fabio MVP]

@thread title: No, we don't.

[Bababui]

American Football is small time...

Rugby is actually played in more than one Country.

So is American Football...google is your friend.

[g00n]

American Football is quite popular in Denmark, and 3-4 NFL games are broadcast on Danish television every week. The popularity of American Football HUGELY outweighs that of rugby, which is almost never shown on TV.

[AIK]

I agree with g00n. American Football are on the rise in Europe. Most NFL were broadcasted in Sweden last season and you can hear discussions about the sport more often than before at places like work or schools. I know several people, including myself, who always stays up the whole night and watches Super Bowl if it's possible. There's a market, no doubt, but one problem could be that SI are british.

Rugby however are totally nonexistent outside of Britain (and those colonies who plays it).

I really think that they should re-invent EHM though.
It's still played by many people, there's even new user-made patches released now and then. The market are pretty big. Canada, US, Scandinavia, Russia (probably still problems with piracy though) are large markets with a high support for the sport.

Maybe not a game that are updated each year, but a large update every two year and just a database update the year in-between?

[pigfacemonkeyman]

I agree with g00n. American Football are on the rise in Europe. Most NFL were broadcasted in Sweden last season and you can hear discussions about the sport more often than before at places like work or schools. I know several people, including myself, who always stays up the whole night and watches Super Bowl if it's possible. There's a market, no doubt, but one problem could be that SI are british.

Rugby however are totally nonexistent outside of Britain (and those colonies who plays it).

I really think that they should re-invent EHM though.

It's still played by many people, there's even new user-made patches released now and then. The market are pretty big. Canada, US, Scandinavia, Russia (probably still problems with piracy though) are large markets with a high support for the sport.

Maybe not a game that are updated each year, but a large update every two year and just a database update the year in-between?

You've just made yourself very popular with a few hundred million people.

[SCIAG]

And Ireland, France, Italy, Argentina, Samoa, Georgia, Chile, Uruguay, Romania, Tonga, Japan, the USA...

Portugal also won the ENC a few years ago, though it is normally dominated by Romania and Georgia. I think the game was essentially killed off in much of Europe after the Second World War because it was so strictly amateur.

[pigfacemonkeyman]

And Ireland, France, Italy, Argentina, Samoa, Georgia, Chile, Uruguay, Romania, Tonga, Japan, the USA...

Portugal also won the ENC a few years ago, though it is normally dominated by Romania and Georgia. I think the game was essentially killed off in much of Europe after the Second World War because it was so strictly amateur.

That's what I meant

[richpk]

i would love a decent Rugby management game also

is there a decent free cricket manager game?

[dvielis]

No - BASKETBALL manager would be better!!

[Magpie80]

This online rugby manager has just been released. 80 min games available in 2D or 3D.

[soccer.joel]

No rugby isnt a game with lots of tactics and transfers Plus rugby's a stupid game anyway!

[Deisler26]

I miss EHM

[sfg]

Nfl and college football manager!!!

[as260191]

http://www.rugbyleaguemanager.co.uk/

[Barside]

The UI looks very familiar as does the 2D match viewer.

[Magpie80]

The UI looks very familiar as does the 2D match viewer.

Are you talking about Rugby Dynasty? What did you think of the 3D?

[Barside]

I was actually referring to an older version of FM.

Might have to check out these Rugby games, never knew they existed.

[Lozsta]

Rather not... FM issues need the developers to concentrate on fixing issues not distracting themselves with girl ball sim

[Magpie80]

I was actually referring to an older version of FM.

Might have to check out these Rugby games, never knew they existed.

Worth a look. 3d in rugby dynasty puts it up there with fm.

[Nobby_McDonald]

Rather not... FM issues need the developers to concentrate on fixing issues not distracting themselves with girl ball sim

You've clearly never played rugby.