Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 so i have an incredible player called Garate who has a minimum fee release clause of 20M. they tried to snatch him many times in the past but he rejected them. suddenly Man Utd offers 34M for him! and i ask you....WHY? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Very strange, sometimes my game seems to switch currency for no reason to dollars or euro's, probably a stupid question but is it still on the same currency? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 there are no stupid questions. But no, same currency (euro). the thing is I have seen in the past teams offering a little higher than the minimum (let's say 20,5M instead of 20M) but this is weird! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cplpeters1900 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Perhaps they havent scouted him enough to see his minimum fee release claus... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 is this possible in fm? I doubt it! in fm the PC teams know the exact CA and PA of each player! I would expect them to see this! also, the minimum fee release clause doesn't need scouting. it is there, when you try to make an offer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Could this bid be made up using clauses rather than one lump sum? I have a feeling that the bid needs to be straight cash to activate the release clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 no it doesn't need to because their fee was indeed part in installments but the clause was activated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 The AI has no idea that players have release clauses. Occasionally you will get media speculating in a club activating one of your players' release clause but I have never seen it happen. They usually make one bid that is lower than the release fee and if I set it to the release fee they go away (once this was a bid of 7m when the release clause was 10m). I have also seen AI clubs bidding way over the release clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel675670 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Maybe they want to enforce the transfer by bidding over the top so no other team will bid for the player. Kinda like Man U's recent acquisition of Phil Jones: his release clause was £16m yet they paid close to £20m so Liverpool couldn't get him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehanson Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 no it doesn't need to because their fee was indeed part in installments but the clause was activated All the transfer needs to be paid up front to activate a minimum release fee clause. If all or part of the offer is made in installments then it doesn't meet the requirements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 All the transfer needs to be paid up front to activate a minimum release fee clause. If all or part of the offer is made in installments then it doesn't meet the requirements. As I said before, NO. they offered part of the money in installments and the clause was activated. how else can i say it? it is a fact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlm8695 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 As I said before, NO. they offered part of the money in installments and the clause was activated. how else can i say it? it is a fact No try it out yourself. It all has to be upfront. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 .... now how can I reply to that? I will state once more the facts and if you want you learn, or you do not. his clause was 20.5M. they gave me like 7M cash and the rest 27M in 30 installments. I get the message that says the offer was accepted cause the clause was met. ALSO, i have done it many times. If you want to keep believing that it cannot happen, be my guest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 You can trigger a release clause with installments instead of paying everything upfront. Might be different IRL but in FM it works this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 You can trigger a release clause with installments instead of paying everything upfront.Might be different IRL but in FM it works this way. exactly, thank you. it happens in fm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehanson Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Can you post the screenshot to that message please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 if you tell me how to find a message 4 months old of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehanson Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Just look back in the messages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 nope, last message is 10 days old Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehanson Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Very odd, because my messages go back to July 2nd and I am currently on 8th November. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 nope, still 10 days back. maybe it has to do with the amount of messages for each day. it is transfer period so some days i have more than 30 messages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennon67 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 i have never managed to activate a minimum fee clause using installments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 try it. it happened to me as i describe above (many times actually) and i tested it when dave asked for it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I signed Aguero to Man City with monthly payments totalling his release clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 I signed Aguero to Man City with monthly payments totalling his release clause. there! it happens! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Stop being over-sensitive Vangelis. Try posting a bit more friendly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardock Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I failed to trigger a release clause using monthly instalments for a player. I can't remember who it was or what save, but I operate under the assumption that it can't happen because of that experience. Maybe a certain amount of the release clause has to be paid up front for it to be triggered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 hey tyoldinho, sorry if I was rude, didn't mean to. that is the way i write. no harm intended Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardock Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I just tried this out in my save. A release clause does not get triggered if you pay in monthly instalments. I added another manager and tried buying one of my players who has a release clause of 120 million. I offered 119 million up front and 200 million over 12 months and it still won't trigger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I failed to trigger a release clause using monthly instalments for a player. I can't remember who it was or what save, but I operate under the assumption that it can't happen because of that experience.Maybe a certain amount of the release clause has to be paid up front for it to be triggered? I just loaded a game and offered £39 million in monthly payments for Sergio Aguero and it was accepted that matches his release clause. The new item did not mention it triggering the release clause does the news item usually say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 I just loaded a game and offered £39 million in monthly payments for Sergio Aguero and it was accepted that matches his release clause. The new item did not mention it triggering the release clause does the news item usually say? my news items said that it had to be accepted due to the clause. the info on the top right corner in the offer screen though it doesn't say that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardock Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I'm not sure, but I relied on what it said when I was bidding for the player. When you bid for the player, look at the comments box on the right hand side, if the release clause will trigger, it should say it in that little box. It reads "Offer must be accepted as it meets an active release fee." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 I'm not sure, but I relied on what it said when I was bidding for the player.When you bid for the player, look at the comments box on the right hand side, if the release clause will trigger, it should say it in that little box. It reads "Offer must be accepted as it meets an active release fee." that is another thing. this DOES trigger ONLY when you pay up front. but in any case you will buy the player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I see, offering £39 million in monthly instalments does not trigger the release clause in the bidding screen. I always assumed it did as the bid was accepted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I've just tried it with a few players and although the message didn't appear when I bid, the offers were accepted anyway. Nothing about clauses was mentioned after that, with bids as installments or lump sums. It looks like the clauses can be activated by paying in installments. Edit: scratch that, it looks like they are accepting smaller bids as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I just bid £8.75 million for Puyol in monthly payments and it was accepted I know he is getting on but I am not sure Barcelona would sell him for that if they didn't have to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I've just tried it with a few players and although the message didn't appear when I bid, the offers were accepted anyway. Nothing about clauses was mentioned after that, with bids as installments or lump sums. It looks like the clauses can be activated by paying in installments.Edit: scratch that, it looks like they are accepting smaller bids as well I had the first bit, but the Chairmen intervened and said ‘the offer was too good to refuse.’ Though I haven’t been able to meet a minimum release clause without paying it up-front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardock Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Turns out you're right Vangelis. This time I actually went through with the bid and it worked. I got a message saying I've accepted the offer because it meets [player name] minimum fee release clause. This is very odd. My whole belief system has been shattered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 I am right, not because I am better but because I happened to see it many times! don't worry, I think at least that this thread helped many people with their transfers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardock Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Certainly helps me, I don't know if I dreamed the other scenario up or if it was in another FM. Good news is the player I bid for is my favourite player. I gave him 250k/week, that's 4 times what I'm paying him, 7.5 in signing on fee and agent fee and yet he still rejected City. Now that's loyalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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