The FM11 All-Nighter Thread (player-naming) 13/02/2011

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 01:22

Evening all

Just a thread for those night owls about.

In the pre-season for 2018-19 season and preparing for life in Serie C1/A

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 01:55

Getting in two players from my former club which should help out.

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 01:56

i'm game who are you managing?

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 02:12

Originally Posted by bardock

i'm game who are you managing?

F.C. Südtirol - Alto Adige in Serie C1/A

You?

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 02:15

Im on too, just got back from the Barca v Gijon game

loading up now, pre season 2022, im FC Santa Claus in Finland

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 02:20

Originally Posted by aussieant32

Im on too, just got back from the Barca v Gijon game

loading up now, pre season 2022, im FC Santa Claus in Finland

Not fun for you then. Just bad play?

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 02:22

yer, was expected, we always play poor after international weeks. Afellay especially played very poor.

Glad i bought my laptop, i stop the night at a relatives on the way back cause its a very long drive, dont feel like sleeping!

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 02:25

Originally Posted by aussieant32

yer, was expected, we always play poor after international weeks. Afellay especially played very poor.

Glad i bought my laptop, i stop the night at a relatives on the way back cause its a very long drive, dont feel like sleeping!

How are Santa Claus?

**ronaldo_1978** · 13-02-2011 02:25

I think I am joining you lot at these crazy hours. I just can't sleep .. Coffee ... Metal ... FM

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 02:30

Originally Posted by Deisler26

How are Santa Claus?

getting better, i just finished top for the first time wth litterally the last kick of the season, I was 2 points behind the leaders with a game in hand on the final day, scored in the 94th minute to take a 3-2! That gives me a place in the CL qualifiers for next season. Just playing the last 3 games of the EL group stages, its funny cause my league seasons finished 2 months ago!

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 02:30

Originally Posted by ronaldo_1978

I think I am joining you lot at these crazy hours. I just can't sleep .. Coffee ... Metal ... FM

An almost perfect combo!!

**ronaldo_1978** · 13-02-2011 02:33

Originally Posted by Deisler26

An almost perfect combo!!

Swap the coffee for something more potent ? LOL

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 02:34

Originally Posted by aussieant32

getting better, i just finished top for the first time wth litterally the last kick of the season, I was 2 points behind the leaders with a game in hand on the final day, scored in the 94th minute to take a 3-2! That gives me a place in the CL qualifiers for next season. Just playing the last 3 games of the EL group stages, its funny cause my league seasons finished 2 months ago!

How do you think you'll get on?

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 02:34

just got my first ever european victory! Beat PSG at home 1-0!

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 02:35

Originally Posted by ronaldo_1978

Swap the coffee for something more potent ? LOL

No, I'd swap the metal for the Blues game I'm listening to

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 02:35

Oooh...

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 02:36

Originally Posted by aussieant32

just got my first ever european victory! Beat PSG at home 1-0!

Jeez! That's amazing!

**ronaldo_1978** · 13-02-2011 02:38

Due to us being the only humans on FM at this time. I might ask you guys who I should choose with a new game, Looking for a team to dominate they're league but looking to get further in Europe ?

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 02:38

Originally Posted by Deisler26

Oooh...

what sort of money is that to you? Is that transfer budget big? It is to me!

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 02:38

port vale feb season 2021-22 in the premier league. we won the domestic treble last season but we're struggling a little this season. we're in desperate need of a good back up striker and central defender but i'm being too cheap.

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 02:39

Originally Posted by ronaldo_1978

Due to us being the only humans on FM at this time. I might ask you guys who I should choose with a new game, Looking for a team to dominate they're league but looking to get further in Europe ?

someone from wales, but its a long slog in europe. What about someone like Ajax?

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 02:41

Originally Posted by ronaldo_1978

Due to us being the only humans on FM at this time. I might ask you guys who I should choose with a new game, Looking for a team to dominate they're league but looking to get further in Europe ?

Feyenoord? Leverkusen? Auxerre?

**ronaldo_1978** · 13-02-2011 02:46

Ajax it is .. Cheers

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 02:46

Originally Posted by aussieant32

what sort of money is that to you? Is that transfer budget big? It is to me!

It's more everything. But I've got my team here.

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 02:47

Just signed a new 5 year contract, only had 12 months left on mine.

Bursaspor next, the did me 1-0 away in the first game

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 02:51

Originally Posted by aussieant32

Just signed a new 5 year contract, only had 12 months left on mine.

Bursaspor next, the did me 1-0 away in the first game

5 year??? Woah!

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 02:58

I got £23 with which to avoid relegation with

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 02:58

you two have inspired me to put this game on hold and start a new one. i only loaded 5 countries with this save because i thought the prediction tool was accurate. i have since learned it's useless so what do you guys think i should load besides the big 4-5?

how many leagues do you think a 2.4ghz 4gb ram set up can handle? i want a proper journey man career none of this stick with the first team that hires me tripe that i usually end up doing!

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 02:58

Originally Posted by Deisler26

5 year??? Woah!

they offerd 3 and I asked for 5 and they accepted!

just drew 1-1 with bursaspor and beat SC Heerenveen 3-1 at home, really happy, last year I lost all the games pretty comfortably, this year i only missed getting throught by 2 points!

I get my budget etc tomorrow... here we go!

**StevenChap** · 13-02-2011 03:01

I am managing 3 teams cause I am a sick jock.

Kaizer Chiefs in South Africa as I couldnt figure out how to load the Zimbabwean leagues

Southport as I have always wanted to try out the Blue Square Prem

And my beloved Champions, Chelsea. I hate seeing other managers mess it up

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 03:05

250k, almost no extra money for wages and minimum expectation is european quals.

All i need is a CM and a back up keeper so this should be more than enough

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 03:05

Originally Posted by bardock

you two have inspired me to put this game on hold and start a new one. i only loaded 5 countries with this save because i thought the prediction tool was accurate. i have since learned it's useless so what do you guys think i should load besides the big 4-5?

how many leagues do you think a 2.4ghz 4gb ram set up can handle? i want a proper journey man career none of this stick with the first team that hires me tripe that i usually end up doing!

I've got England, Spain, France, Holland, Germany, Portugal and Italy loaded. That's more than enough for me.

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 03:07

Originally Posted by Deisler26

I've got England, Spain, France, Holland, Germany, Portugal and Italy loaded. That's more than enough for me.

all to the lowest league? what's your set up like? i hope i'm not bothering you with all these inane questions. i was thinking i'd run what you have plus turkey and greece.

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 03:10

Originally Posted by bardock

all to the lowest league? what's your set up like? i hope i'm not bothering you with all these inane questions. i was thinking i'd run what you have plus turkey and greece.

2gHz with 4gb ram, but it's old. And all to the lowest setting.

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 03:18

yeah mine is pretty old too. i chose a bunch of leagues lets hope it doesn't fall apart. thanks for the help man.

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 03:23

Originally Posted by bardock

yeah mine is pretty old too. i chose a bunch of leagues lets hope it doesn't fall apart. thanks for the help man.

No problems!

Just trying to get decent enough players for the team

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 03:30

well i found my CM and back up GK anda decent looking regen centre half from brazil.

Also tied down my best defender to a 4 year deal as some clubs were sniffing

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 03:31

Originally Posted by aussieant32

well i found my CM and back up GK anda decent looking regen centre half from brazil.

Also tied down my best defender to a 4 year deal as some clubs were sniffing

I can't even get a goalie on loan atm

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 03:45

Tony Kautto - he sint a world beater but he is a handy backup for cups etc

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 03:49

i got my first gig at clube sport maritimo b. i get 725/week, 30k to spend but i'm over my 3k wage budget by 2k. very weird i have players on loan at the club taking big wages but their attributes are masked.

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 03:52

Originally Posted by aussieant32

Tony Kautto - he sint a world beater but he is a handy backup for cups etc

He'd be my #1 right now. I have ZERO Gk's

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 03:52

Originally Posted by bardock

i got my first gig at clube sport maritimo b. i get 725/week, 30k to spend but i'm over my 3k wage budget by 2k. very weird i have players on loan at the club taking big wages but their attributes are masked.

Good luck!

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 03:56

and my new regen defeder gets a goal on his debut!

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 04:03

Originally Posted by Deisler26

Good luck!

thanks i'm going to need it!

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 04:07

Originally Posted by bardock

thanks i'm going to need it!

Me and you both..

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 04:08

boys, whats your thoughts on this feature? In some countries you can only bring in free agents at certain times of the season. For example, i just signed a russian, 22 years old and without a club. I get him in the 'free transfer' window in august (6 months away). What about an option to bring the player to the club to train so he can at least keep up a bit of fitness?

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 04:12

that's a great idea auss there shouldn't be a problem if there are no work permit issues

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 04:14

just annoying that they are basically doing no training etc for 6 months at a time where their stats are effected most!

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 04:18

you're right and the feature is realistic you should stick it in the wish thread just in case they do actually read it.

**Deisler26** · 13-02-2011 04:20

Right guys, I'm off! Enjoy!

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 04:22

Originally Posted by Deisler26

Right guys, I'm off! Enjoy!

night mate, have a good one

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 04:22

Originally Posted by bardock

you're right and the feature is realistic you should stick it in the wish thread just in case they do actually read it.

might do, i doubt they do though, there have been heaps of good ideas in there that have gone unnoticed.

hows the save going?

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 04:29

to be honest i'm not sure. i'm playing my first friendly against my parent club maritimo and my boys are doing well. i'll have to go through the season with what i have because of 4 players who are paid a lot of money by us but seem to be in limbo because they can't be selected.

how is yours going? finland right?

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 04:34

yer im FC Santa Claus

Im going ok, im in 2022 now, finished top of the league for the first time last year. Just won the League cup, its set up as a pre season tournament in Finland. Have won it 3 of the last 4 years. Really happy my squads starting to come good, its been a long 12 seasons so far!

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 04:40

Can I jump into the excitement and ask for an idea for a new save? I am bored witless of trying to conquer the European circuit with Wigan after failing to retain the Premiership for the sixth consecutive year. Who knew signing old players with huge reputations could result in league success? Kaka got world player of the year at 35.

Back to the question; totally clueless on where to go now. Are dynamic league reputations making management in other countries worthwhile? I haven't had a good foreign save since FC Koper of Slovenia

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 04:44

i believe they are. I know someone on the board with Tampere United in Finland, in his league they have auto qual for CL and EL (all qual round to start with) and he is getting 25000 at a game.

Even with mine, really I havent done anything yet but already english players are semi interested in me, whereas before it was only eastern europeans and africans.

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 04:49

Very tempted to start an unemployment career in the Scandinavian area. Could be interesting to finally be able to sign some decent players for those teams. I remember when I got to the quarter finals of the EURO Cup with FC Koper, I had to break all kinds of records to get hold of Nacer Barazite and Jacob Mellis as Arsenal and Chelsea rejects respectively. Any recommendations for sizzling lower league management in the Eastern European block?

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 04:52

well im really enjoying Finland, mainly cause of the team i guess, but why not load up all of them? Or even go to the challenges forum and try Gundos challenge.

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 04:58

Ah, haven't looked at the challenge forums in actual years. After completing dafuge's with Mangotsfield, this seems an equally fun challenge. I think I might go Finland, Belarus and Iceland, as they are the 3 lowest non-UK and Ireland league reputations, with adding the notoriously 'buggy' Bulgarian league. Thanks for the advice. No doubt our paths will cross again on another 'Night Owl' page. I wish you luck with your Finnish endeavour.

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 04:59

im sure they will, are you heading off now?

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 05:01

Originally Posted by aussieant32

yer im FC Santa Claus

Im going ok, im in 2022 now, finished top of the league for the first time last year. Just won the League cup, its set up as a pre season tournament in Finland. Have won it 3 of the last 4 years. Really happy my squads starting to come good, its been a long 12 seasons so far!

congratulations! sounds like my save with port vale it took me 6 years to get them into the premier league then another 5 to win it (2021 too). by the way did you create that club or is it a real club?

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:01

I've actually got a few hours ahead of me, but didn't want to intrude too heavily in your gaming pleasure. Just being distracted by early morning bird song suggesting I should be in bed. I think they will be ignored for now though.

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:03

Originally Posted by bardock

congratulations! sounds like my save with port vale it took me 6 years to get them into the premier league then another 5 to win it (2021 too). by the way did you create that club or is it a real club?

Bardock, just out of curiosity, are you actually a Vale fan or were they just selected by chance? I am only asking as I have frequently visited Vale Park and adorned the top in chants of Wonder of You :P

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 05:04

Originally Posted by bardock

congratulations! sounds like my save with port vale it took me 6 years to get them into the premier league then another 5 to win it (2021 too). by the way did you create that club or is it a real club?

nah its a real club, im doing gundos challenge, you basically choose one of a select number of leagues, i chose finland obviously, then you holiday a year and take over a team that got promoted to the lowest league.

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 05:05

Originally Posted by Stoppeh

I've actually got a few hours ahead of me, but didn't want to intrude too heavily in your gaming pleasure. Just being distracted by early morning bird song suggesting I should be in bed. I think they will be ignored for now though.

thats why these threads get set up mate, to chat to others playing an all nighter!

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:07

Just noticed your researcher status aussieant. Still sore about Robbie Fowler jumping ship to Perth Glory? Or is Williams still getting the business done?

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 05:08

hahaha no i started unemployed they hired me in december of the first year because they were 20th if i recall correctly. although admittedly i now have a soft spot for them and do follow them from afar. chesterfield too they were my big save last year.

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 05:09

porto just won the CL for a third year in a row, mainly thnks to Rafael

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:09

Originally Posted by bardock

hahaha no i started unemployed they hired me in december of the first year because they were 20th if i recall correctly. although admittedly i now have a soft spot for them and do follow them from afar. chesterfield too they were my big save last year.

Don't let too many of those fans let you hear you having soft spots for both sides, they were only locking horns as promotion contenders recently! I am literally a couple miles down the road from Vale Park whilst at University, decided to adopt them as my second team.

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 05:10

Originally Posted by Stoppeh

Just noticed your researcher status aussieant. Still sore about Robbie Fowler jumping ship to Perth Glory? Or is Williams still getting the business done?

I actually dont support them, i was just asked to try help out to get the stats in the A-league a bit better! I have a friend send me a dvd with every game on it every few weeks, dont see much A-league in Terrassa!

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:10

Originally Posted by aussieant32

porto just won the CL for a third year in a row, mainly thnks to Rafael

Do love how the game advances sometimes. Sweden retaining the World Cup was a particular highlight in the years 2026 and '30

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:12

Did become confused with your Spanish location and Australian research. Thought you might have been privately financing trips over to A-league games. A billionaire's idea of fun.

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 05:14

no, just didnt have anyone else for it, there is still a club without a researcher!

I think i did an ok job, couldnt have been worse then what it was!

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:17

I can't admit to having ever watched the A-League in detail, other than briefly knowing that Robbie Fowler was prolific for a while. If he is banging them in at 34/35, I can't imagine it is the greatest standard of league. I'd quite happily offer my two cents worth if FM ever got to the detail of including Inter-University football. I do think that is a rather distant dream though. If you are in the mood for offering your opinions, do you mind if you run an idea I just posted in suggestions past you? You seem to be fairly level headed, as forum posters go.

**Adam.S** · 13-02-2011 05:20

Currently playing as Juve to waste time until the new patch comes out then will start a career game as Pompey.

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 05:20

Originally Posted by Stoppeh

I can't admit to having ever watched the A-League in detail, other than briefly knowing that Robbie Fowler was prolific for a while. If he is banging them in at 34/35, I can't imagine it is the greatest standard of league. I'd quite happily offer my two cents worth if FM ever got to the detail of including Inter-University football. I do think that is a rather distant dream though. If you are in the mood for offering your opinions, do you mind if you run an idea I just posted in suggestions past you? You seem to be fairly level headed, as forum posters go.

go for it mate, always willing to share an opinion with someone that isnt just moaning about the game like alot of people on here do!

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 05:20

Originally Posted by Adam.S

Currently playing as Juve to waste time until the new patch comes out then will start a career game as Pompey.

how is it going mate?

**Adam.S** · 13-02-2011 05:20

Robbie Fowler has struggled , only scored 9 in his first season and didn't score much this year either. Hardly a stand out.

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:20

Originally Posted by Adam.S

Currently playing as Juve to waste time until the new patch comes out then will start a career game as Pompey.

Pompey fan?

**Adam.S** · 13-02-2011 05:22

Originally Posted by aussieant32

how is it going mate?

Not to bad , 3 points off top of Serie A , only 9 games in though and doing ok in Europe. Can't keep a clean sheet for the life of me though

**Adam.S** · 13-02-2011 05:22

Originally Posted by Stoppeh

Pompey fan?

Nah just like the challenge of taking over a club that has hardly any players , horrible finances and it is a job that no manager would really dare with as it is destined to fail so looking forward to the challenge.

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:23

The idea, whether it is possible or not is another matter, is allowing users of offline databases to export their squads from their successful saves (e.g. if Santa Cruz were to go onto CL glory I am sure you would like to test their metal against other good sides) into a mutual server hosted by SI and do battle. Possibly in a large cup format, working down to same geographical position leagues and the option to interact with friendlies with your mates to see who has the best squad. Would finally settle who had the better team for offline saves. Like I said, whether it's possible is another issue, but if they can manage the interaction of databases for Network games and player v player on FML, I can't imagine they are far off being able to make it work.

Not sure if that made sense, outlined it more on suggestion page, will get you the link.

**bardock** · 13-02-2011 05:24

Originally Posted by Stoppeh

Don't let too many of those fans let you hear you having soft spots for both sides, they were only locking horns as promotion contenders recently! I am literally a couple miles down the road from Vale Park whilst at University, decided to adopt them as my second team.

keele? i only ask because i got accepted to keele and was considering going there but money was tight. we were living in brisbane at the time so attended the university of queensland.

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:24

A manager not obsessed with transfer budgets. You are a dying breed Adam. Bournemouth were a similar challenge.

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:24

Originally Posted by bardock

keele? i only ask because i got accepted to keele and was considering going there but money was tight. we were living in brisbane at the time so attended the university of queensland.

Sure is. Proud member of Keele University. Small world, huh?

**Adam.S** · 13-02-2011 05:24

Am I the only one who absolutely hates conceding? Would rather play out a 0-0 draw then a 3-3.

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:26

Originally Posted by Adam.S

Am I the only one who absolutely hates conceding? Would rather play out a 0-0 draw then a 3-3.

Devised a tactic for the Italian league a while ago that played 6 defenders, 3 midfielders and a striker. Conceded 8 goals all season with Inter Milan. Was very chuffed with myself. Nothing worse than the flash of the opposition's colours for me either.

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:27

http://community.sigames.com/showthr...n-here./page66 - post is there auss.

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 05:28

Originally Posted by Stoppeh

The idea, whether it is possible or not is another matter, is allowing users of offline databases to export their squads from their successful saves (e.g. if Santa Cruz were to go onto CL glory I am sure you would like to test their metal against other good sides) into a mutual server hosted by SI and do battle. Possibly in a large cup format, working down to same geographical position leagues and the option to interact with friendlies with your mates to see who has the best squad. Would finally settle who had the better team for offline saves. Like I said, whether it's possible is another issue, but if they can manage the interaction of databases for Network games and player v player on FML, I can't imagine they are far off being able to make it work.

Not sure if that made sense, outlined it more on suggestion page, will get you the link.

i know what your saying, i can see some downsides of it though. Alot of people use FMRTE etc to get top players at the club etc.

But in theory i would love it, to see FC Santa Claus dominating everyone around the world would be very satisfying!

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:30

Originally Posted by aussieant32

i know what your saying, i can see some downsides of it though. Alot of people use FMRTE etc to get top players at the club etc.

But in theory i would love it, to see FC Santa Claus dominating everyone around the world would be very satisfying!

I thought of a couple of ways around FMRTE and pre-existing database changes, but meaning that they have to connect to a server like they have to on Football Manager Live. Stops them being able to change their squads then. And the server would only accept squad lists from official updates. Like I said, don't know whether they are technically capable of that, but would be amazing imo.

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 05:32

Originally Posted by Stoppeh

I thought of a couple of ways around FMRTE and pre-existing database changes, but meaning that they have to connect to a server like they have to on Football Manager Live. Stops them being able to change their squads then. And the server would only accept squad lists from official updates. Like I said, don't know whether they are technically capable of that, but would be amazing imo.

yer i think its a good idea if they can work out how to detect if FMRTE etc has been used. I usually dont post in that thread though, most people just tell you that your idea is stupid and shouldnt be added.

The most common response is "Id rather they get the actual game right first" - wish those people would read the thread title first

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 05:33

having my best start to a season, played 9, won 7, drew 1, lost 1, scored 22 conceded 3!

**Adam.S** · 13-02-2011 05:35

What tactic you using aussieant and what team are you? Sorry can't be bothered scrolling up lol

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:35

It seems that there is a large amount of idiots playing the game. Always nice when you stumble across another non-flaming idiot. I think they could perhaps stop some edits but even if they couldn't, it could be avoided by a CA/PA cap (maybe). You could even have an open competition where all the players are of a set standard (like the way you get that Master League team everytime you start PES Career modes) and see who has the most tactical nouse. Couldn't be many arguments that way. I mean, the 'idiots' that would be tempted to cheat probably wouldn't know what had hit them if they came up against someone with solid tactical ability.

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 05:38

playing a 433, im FC Santa Claus in Finland, currently in 2023

**Adam.S** · 13-02-2011 05:44

Is that a real team?

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:45

Nobody seems to believe you on this team auss. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Santa_Claus - I think it's particularly fitting they wear all red and have a Father Christmas badge. Very funny.

**Adam.S** · 13-02-2011 05:55

2 players sent off within 25 mins. pffft need new patch

**Stoppeh** · 13-02-2011 05:55

Dirty Italian football, never changes! Still waiting for my holiday season to expire so I can begin the Gundo challenge as well. Lower league management in Iceland or Finland awaits..

**La Furia Roja** · 13-02-2011 05:56

Originally Posted by Stoppeh

Nobody seems to believe you on this team auss. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Santa_Claus - I think it's particularly fitting they wear all red and have a Father Christmas badge. Very funny.

andin FM their club legend is Santa Claus!

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