Project 2160: 150 years on football

[BurnCM4X]

With this project i wanted to simulate 150 years on FM 2011. The save only include 3 nations (Andorra, England and Portugal) and it includes some surprises. (specially on Portuguese league)

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[andu1]

How soon are the downloads coming?

[BurnCM4X]

Uploading now.

[darrylv2]

I WILL DOWNLOAD this striaght away

[Lambo95]

whats the surprise? are porto in teh lower echelons of the football system?

[BurnCM4X]

Well the surprise is not on the "grand 3"... Is the fourth one! And you would never guess who is it!

[ahyeahok]

Why andorra btw?

[BurnCM4X]

I've created the update for andorra and since this project is the best way to test an update i included it.

[darrylv2]

Downloading now

[BurnCM4X]

Ok, i've added some mirrors. Post your reactions!

[Lambo95]

I don't want ot download so can someone tell me the surprise?

[surreal]

very interesting, i've always wondered what the game would be like after so many years.

as a chelsea fan the first thing i noticed is that chelsea were relegated in 2158, but i really don't understand how. chelsea finished 7th in that season and the next season they were in the npower championship! also even stranger, in the next season they finished 1st in the npower championship but were not promoted! if anyone can figure out why this happened i'd be very interested in knowing :P

[darrylv2]

Man U have absolutly dominated the Premier League

[BurnCM4X]

You are probably seeing it wrong... (maybe seing the best postition in that year?)
Just load the save... they ended the 2157/2158 in 18th and in 5th in the 2158/2159.

[BurnCM4X]

Just a note to SI. Check out the Andorra teams: They all have normal finances (some have huge money accounts) but they are all in "Bankrupt (in receivership)". Why?

[DivineOne]

Anyone can put a screenshot of the most expensive transfers online?

[Adam Sutton]

post lots of screens plz! best regen?

[BurnCM4X]

Ok, since people been asking for shots here some:
Top Transfers Ever: (All players are retired now)


Top Player: (The best i found)


PS: BTW, Portugal is not the only one with BIG surprises... Check the team who won Premier League in 2143, 2148, 2153 and 2154? (And Champions League in 2132/2133)

[Munchkin]

where do i save it on a mac?

[aderow]

From the looks of it man united have been spending like man city

[Henry Gruby]

No premier league table screenshot?

[Chalky1989]

I downloaded it, but alas, my laptop is too rubbish to handle 150 years of FM! Did have a nosy round a few stats and the like though, very interesting. [yes]

Inspired me to holidday a game overnight. Got to 2020. Starting from there. [yes]

[cplpeters1900]

Can people upload screenshots of the premier league, champions league, world cup and euro championships historys please?

[Seo]

Richest clubs:
1. Man Utd
2. Casa Benfica (Andorran team from second division)
3. Real Madrid
4. Barcelona

ROFLMAO.

And best player would be probably Tiago from Juve, then Ibon Samaniego from Milan.

Nice savegame and thanks, laughed a lot.

[Adam Sutton]

more screens plz

[Nobby_McDonald]

Just a note to SI. Check out the Andorra teams: They all have normal finances (some have huge money accounts) but they are all in "Bankrupt (in receivership)". Why?

Since Andorra is not a playable league out of the box, this is not an issue with SI but with whomever made the Andorran league that is being used.

[DannoBWFC]

Kingstonian and Lowestoft in the Prem! Thats awesome. Done it many of times myself mind you with smaller teams but still...quite impressive.

[TheGulls]

Great saved game I found it interesting that in 2160 the population of england is only 50million, 10 million less than currently, I wonder if there was some sort of war or natural disaster.

[Slawbawn]

I love the fact that Chelsea are in the Championship. Wanted to cry when I saw Swindon in conference though.

[Erodotos]

Anybody to give us more screenshots? This are very interesting!

[BurnCM4X]

Since Andorra is not a playable league out of the box, this is not an issue with SI but with whomever made the Andorran league that is being used.

Since the editor IS a a game feature it sure is SI problem if it isn't working properly!
I did it myself (the league) and the probably reason for that happening was already assumed by SI as a game bug.

[crouchaldinho]

Sorry BurnCM4X but Nobby is correct on this one.

[BurnCM4X]

Sorry BurnCM4X but Nobby is correct on this one.

If that's true why this section exist???

[Lambo95]

Can someone post the current english league table?

[TheGulls]

Can someone post the current english league table?

Why not just download it ?

[Lambo95]

Why not just download it ?

Fialure of a laptop so I play the handheld version. But I may get a new laptop so I'll get FM at some point

[Cougar2010]

If that's true why this section exist???

The section exists so fans can discuss the various "alterations" that can be made to the game.

SI are responsible for making sure the editor works but not for what fans create/do with it.

[BurnCM4X]

The section exists so fans can discuss the various "alterations" that can be made to the game.

SI are responsible for making sure the editor works but not for what fans create/do with it.

Next time click on the link before say things that come to your mind! The link i posted is the section to post BUGS of the editor or for the bugs in games created with the editor! I know what i'm saying cause i already post a few bugs. (One of this bugs could be related to what i mentioned before)
They already said the bugs are logged so...

EDIT: getting on topic, i will try to post a few more SS later. I was expecting the people that downloaded the save to post their own SS that they find interesting...

[Cougar2010]

Next time click on the link before say things that come to your mind! The link i posted is the section to post BUGS of the editor or for the bugs in games created with the editor! I know what i'm saying cause i already post a few bugs. (One of this bugs could be related to what i mentioned before)
They already said the bugs are logged so...

Yes, my mistake I didn't check the link.

That section is to post bugs found within the editor program but the same premise applies. Its SI's responsibility to make sure that the editor works in the way it was designed but errors that have been caused by a user badly or incorrectly using the editor are nothing to do with them.

[BurnCM4X]

Yes, my mistake I didn't check the link.

That section is to post bugs found within the editor program but the same premise applies. Its SI's responsibility to make sure that the editor works in the way it was designed but errors that have been caused by a user badly or incorrectly using the editor are nothing to do with them.

And yet you assumed the error i mentioned was related to incorrect use of my part. Since i am a really long user of every CM/FM editor and since the version of the update is on late stage i take offense on that. Besides the bug i mentioned could be related to an already reported and accepted bug so i really don't understand this posts.

[George_Spurs]

I would have downloaded this if you had selected Spain, England and Italy....

[Drunk Beware]

Kingstonian and Lowestoft in the Prem! Thats awesome. Done it many of times myself mind you with smaller teams but still...quite impressive.

Lowestoft in the prem, fantastic stuff. Mon the Blues.

[BurnCM4X]

Lowestoft in the prem, fantastic stuff. Mon the Blues.

I didn't know the club... They actually won one or two champions... amazing.

[Nobby_McDonald]

Since the editor IS a a game feature it sure is SI problem if it isn't working properly!
I did it myself (the league) and the probably reason for that happening was already assumed by SI as a game bug.

SI designed the editor to be as functional as possible. If somebody, be it you or somebody else, puts the wrong information in, then that isn't SI's fault.

[Chalky1989]

Great saved game I found it interesting that in 2160 the population of england is only 50million, 10 million less than currently, I wonder if there was some sort of war or natural disaster.

Englands population is only about 50 million anyway, maybe a couple of million more. The 60 million figure was the UK as a whole.

[DannoBWFC]

Started a game with Lowestoft for a laugh.

Signed a guy called China for £7 million. Check him out if you have downloaded this, he's immense!

[Nik_Dut]

It is hard to believe that 150 years from now the most expensive transfer is 104m.

Economy must've been good...

[cplpeters1900]

Guys can you upload some more screenies please?

[AaB-ern]

Denmark 3rd place at the 2158 World Cup. Man, I really need to take my vitamins to experience that!

[LENNYG1]

Why dont you just download it?

[gunzfm]

I downloaded the save file for my old laptop which is only 1gb and it couldnt even open the file as the game kept crashing. some peoples computers may not be powerful enough to handle a save which is 888mb i know my laptop isn't.

[oi_oi_ginger_roy]

Why dont you just download it?

Handheld version - dont yet have FM - not at home to play FM - PC/Laptop broken - something to take away a (boring) day at work etc etc

Many reasons why

[BurnCM4X]

More shots:

[Lambo95]

so Porto haven't been in the top 3 for a while? Interesting

[Mr Eko]

I've downloaded this, but what do you do, what do you open it with?

Cheers

[DivineOne]

I've downloaded this, but what do you do, what do you open it with?

Cheers

FM off course.

[Calif_Ramette]

My computer can't handle this much data, yes its a piece of doo doo. How are Derby County doing and did anyone ever break the 11 points we set or is it still a record?

[djstreaky]

interesting save ga,e. some things I noticed (from a personal point of view) which might need addressing with the game itself long term SI

- England still have not hosted the World Cup since 1966 despite countires other countires getting it many times (Australia x3, China x2, Italy x4, USA x3 etc). Is this a bug?
- as said before, transfer fees have not changed that much, I can't see inflation staying the same for 150 years when it hardly stays the same for 150 days at the moment.
- legends and icons don't seem to diminish over time. Looking at this I can see players in my favourite team (QPR) who are barely even noteworthy today still appearing in their list. The likes of Lee Cook and Peter Crouch, although known today would surely be forgotten in 150 years time. I think it should be programmed so that favoured players reputations decrease over time unless they are an absolute legend
- as much as its good to see some clubs have come up from non league over time it appears that their 'success' is not reflected in more support and bigger stadiums, surely there would be some kind of shift in fan base over such a long period and therefore bigger grounds would be built. I looked at 4 clubs in the Prem (one of them again being QPR) and they had sub 18,000 stadiums. In QPR's case their capacity has actually decreased from what it currently is IRL (Although its an all seater, have people got fatter or something?)

these are just a few observations from 10 minutes at looking at the save game. No big deal as most won't play the game that long but maybe a few issues with the actual 'core' of the game itself worthy of note

[DivineOne]

- England still have not hosted the World Cup since 1966 despite countires other countires getting it many times (Australia x3, China x2, Italy x4, USA x3 etc). Is this a bug?

Must be bad luck, cause I've won the 2022 WC in England with England.

- as said before, transfer fees have not changed that much, I can't see inflation staying the same for 150 years when it hardly stays the same for 150 days at the moment.

Inflation isn't in the game. SI said it was really challenging to make the financial system as good as it is now, it would be impossible to add inflation.

[milnerpoint]

there is no way they could really account for inflation, who's to say in 150 years we still use money? LOL

[milnerpoint]

i thought this would take a lot longer to load than it did!
hahaha lowestoft have had an incredible rise winning the Euro cup 3 times and the champs league twice and runner up the season after!! Defuge would be very proud!!
Do you have any earlier saves like 100 years before that lol, id like to see the stats of the guy that won world player of ther year 9 years in a row.

[BurnCM4X]

unfortunately no...

[milnerpoint]

hahah i knew it would be a very long shot!!!! cant wait to see further saves!

[Stephanie McMahon\'s Secret Lover]

there is no way they could really account for inflation, who's to say in 150 years we still use money? LOL

Not only that but I remember once playing USM and inflation ruined the game for me!!!

[d2024p]

No surprises about the Ubaldi being top transfer, he's a beast in my save

[backpackant]

Come on - did you increase Lowestoft's finances at the very start?

[milnerpoint]

if you look through their history it took them years and years to get where they are, 50 odd years fighting in the lower leagues alone, heaps of promotions and relegations so i dont think he did. i think it took them close to 100 years to get into the prem league.

[Mr Eko]

It's fascinating, you could spend days going through it taking in the details!

The jouney's that some of the clubs have been on are amazing, Sheffield Wednesday built themselves back up to win the Premiership one year, but by 2160 they've falen as low as Conferance North!

And I'd like to have seen the stats for that striker who scored over 150 goals for England and over 400 Premiership goals in the 2040s!

[BurnCM4X]

The only editing thing in this save is the Andorra League.

[rickgellison]

- England still have not hosted the World Cup since 1966 despite countires other countires getting it many times (Australia x3, China x2, Italy x4, USA x3 etc). Is this a bug?

No. They froze Sepp Blatters body then when they found a cure for death by age, he took up his mantle as FIFA chief once again. Platini was in charge for the 20 years during in his death - resurrection.

[OugaBagga]

Great saved game I found it interesting that in 2160 the population of england is only 50million, 10 million less than currently, I wonder if there was some sort of war or natural disaster.

The population of England now is 50 million, I think you're confusing Engliand with Britain that has 60 million population. Hope this clears it up

[bearsy2]

- England still have not hosted the World Cup since 1966 despite countires other countires getting it many times (Australia x3, China x2, Italy x4, USA x3 etc). Is this a bug?

Perhaps they (a) still have the same idiotic people in charge of their bid. (b) have a media who slag off and question the morals of those deciding who is awarded the finals. (c) Sepp Blatter still sends memos round to other committee members from the grave slagging off all potential English bids

[BurnCM4X]

I don't know if anyone noticed that, but there are a few English teams that have more then 1B euros on there accounts and don't have any special results. (Norwich, Southport, Telford and Ipswich) Tycoon takeovers?

[MattSpurs94]

Spurs winning the Premier League on multiple occasions? I need to go lie down.......

[BurnCM4X]

Just a note to SI. Check out the Andorra teams: They all have normal finances (some have huge money accounts) but they are all in "Bankrupt (in receivership)". Why?

Well, this is surelly a bug! Check out Norwich City: 1B+ on their accounts and is in Bankrupt!

[Seo]

Hope for something like this savegame after new patch release. Would be great to see more countries. Spain and Italy at least.

[TheGulls]

The population of England now is 50 million, I think you're confusing Engliand with Britain that has 60 million population. Hope this clears it up

Population in England was 52 million at the end of 2007 and increasing at 0.6% per year so I doubt very much that the population is now 50 million, however after 149 years at the current rate of population growth (0.75%), the amount would increase quite considerably from 50 million and therefore increase average attendances and the amount of regens in the game.

[mal9ball]

Sperlz - That could also not be done.

[Tom061091]

I can't seem to get the download to run on a Mac. When downloaded, the file reads as a .rar file. When placed into the games file in fm, the save is not recognised at all. Changing the extension to .fm doesn't work either - this causes the save to show up on the 'load file' menu at the start screen, but when selected the save cannot be recognised.

Help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

[milnerpoint]

you need to download winrar or if theres a similar mac programme to unzip the file before you can play it.

[viiralx]

This is a great post, but the only thing missing is rule changes. I doubt very much in 150 years time. All leagues will be exactly the same format with the same rules etc. Would be great if SI could implement rule changes as the years go on.

That would prob violate all the league licenses

[milnerpoint]

This is a great post, but the only thing missing is rule changes. I doubt very much in 150 years time. All leagues will be exactly the same format with the same rules etc. Would be great if SI could implement rule changes as the years go on.

what rule changes could SI possibly predict?

[Slawbawn]

This is a great post, but the only thing missing is rule changes. I doubt very much in 150 years time. All leagues will be exactly the same format with the same rules etc. Would be great if SI could implement rule changes as the years go on.

That just takes away from a realism. Lets be fair, I doubt that FM was really designed for people to go this far in the future. If its played properly and not holidayed like this, the most you're probably gonna do is about 70 years?

Besides the fact, as previously mentioned, it'd probably violate licenses

[Tom061091]

you need to download winrar or if theres a similar mac programme to unzip the file before you can play it.

Cheers mate.

Did some research and found 'StuffIt Expander' on the Mac App Store - managed to get it working

[evertonmarc]

just trying this save game. First thing i noticed, Man Utd were considered the richest club in the world at 991m.
2nd was Ipswich at 651m - but when you go into Ipswich, they are bankrupt, in recievership, and from what i can see, aren't even in the league anymore!!!

[milnerpoint]

i think the game freaks out a bit after a hundred years or so!!

[BurnCM4X]

just trying this save game. First thing i noticed, Man Utd were considered the richest club in the world at 991m.
2nd was Ipswich at 651m - but when you go into Ipswich, they are bankrupt, in recievership, and from what i can see, aren't even in the league anymore!!!

My guess is that his bugs are related to the max bit issue. The value for the clubs money is enough to support this 1B value but the status of the clubs finance probably isn't "getting" the enough number of bits from the clubs value.

[king kenny111]

I know this iss the wrong thing to criticize but only 79 points for a league winner, ??? has the league gotten rubbish

[evertonmarc]

My guess is that his bugs are related to the max bit issue. The value for the clubs money is enough to support this 1B value but the status of the clubs finance probably isn't "getting" the enough number of bits from the clubs value.

I hope SI are reading this thread, more beta bug fixing from us it seems! And as Sperlz said, 150 years and still at Goodison.....Kenwright out! lol

[Anti Spiral]

I think my computer would explode if I tried to download this file. Can someone tell me how Bristol Rovers have got on?

[trekkie_ram]

My computer can't handle this much data, yes its a piece of doo doo. How are Derby County doing and did anyone ever break the 11 points we set or is it still a record?

I would also love to know this, if anyone can help with info/ss. Not downloaded due to not having FM11.

[uncle ron]

Absolutely brilliant... it took until 2139/2140 for Swindon Supermarine to make it into Blue Square South and what a memorable season it was...



I've never seen a played 42 lost 42 with only 2 goal season before

[matt_CDL]

I just downloaded this but dont know how to load that game?

[milnerpoint]

you need winrar to unzip the file first, then put it into your save games folder. Its located in your documents/sports interactive/save games. it will then appear on the load game screen.

[milnerpoint]

I think my computer would explode if I tried to download this file. Can someone tell me how Bristol Rovers have got on?

you should be able to load the game, just dont press continue!! it took about 5 minutes to load on my laptop which is not that high spec, but i havent tried to continue the game even one day then i think it might eat its self to pieces!!

[Nobby_McDonald]

Absolutely brilliant... it took until 2139/2140 for Swindon Supermarine to make it into Blue Square South and what a memorable season it was...



I've never seen a played 42 lost 42 with only 2 goal season before

Brilliant or depressing Ron?

[trekkie_ram]

Cheer up though, the golden years for Swindon Supermarine are clearly just around the corner.

Champions League winners in another 150 years if the current progress is anything to go by. 2309/10 doesn't seem THAT far away.

[jackripper]

How have Wales done as a nation? Is Giggs out of retirement?

[BurnCM4X]

I hope SI are reading this thread, more beta bug fixing from us it seems! And as Sperlz said, 150 years and still at Goodison.....Kenwright out! lol

Don't know if they care... I'm pretty sure that all bugs from now on will just be ignore since the new patch may be close by.

[athos]

So in 150 years, half the clubs in England will be bankrupt and in administration? lol