Originally posted by Ter:
One final point.
If Mods and SI employees took as much notice of "normal rule infringement", as they do comments about no cd cracks and questions about non-licensed teams then I don't believe that we would be in this situation.
Somebody mentions a no cd crack and it's an instant ban and topic closed within a couple of minutes.
Someone mentions how to get the German or Dutch national teams playable and it's closed before you can think "how many times".
But abuse and general ignoring of the rules that set the standards in GQ on a day to day basis are constantly ignored even though there are many SI employees around.
The topics about No-CD cracks and licensing restrictions are usually easy to spot and put a stop to via a quick scan of the topics. General abuse and rule breaking can happen in just about any topic so it's not as easy to spot and do something about. Quite often we're quite busy (especially recently) and don't have time to look through every topic in the forums.
One of the big problems IMO is people reacting in an angry manner to people who come in the forums and ask about things that are asked all the time like release dates and demo releases. At the end of the day we've got a lot of casual users who will only want to find out when the game is out or when they can play the demo. With some people reacting the way they do I would be surprised if they ever come back.
All we can do is put something in the forum header with the latest information we have and if you don't have something positive to reply with then don't bother
. If it annoys you then close your browser and leave it to us to reply with the information asked and lock the topic if necessary.
I am not sure where you got the impression that only positive comments are allowed on these forums.
While I fully appreciate that SI would prefer more positive comments than negative comments, the simple fact is that without the sometimes negative feedback that you see on here, the game wouldn't have progressed to the level it is at now.
Constructive feedback is is probably what you meant, but it is certainly not what you said, and gives me an an idea as to your priority lies in terms of what is right and wrong with this forum.
If SI, took a harder line on people doing such things as opening ridiculous numbers of threads on the same subject, (while there is a sticky in place about that subject), abusing other users, and generally abusing existing rules, then we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.
I get the impression from reading some of your recent comments, that you feel existing members of the forum are giving it a negative reputation and not making it a welcoming environment for new users. Maybe, rather than criticising some of the existing users for their well-meaning efforts, you should have taken steps to rectify the situation yourself.
I have lost cout of the number of times that you have chosen to concentrate on a humerous (but non abusive), response to a ridiculous thread, than the opening of the thread itself.
As for Gavnoble's
comments, I completely agree with the proposal of Dave C and dafuge as the sort of people who could benefit the forum if asked to and if they were so inclined. Although I normally agree with most of what Gav says, (it's not brain surgery), I really don't like the way that he used Ackter as an example of someone who shouldn't be given additional responsibility.
I regularly disagree with Ackter's comments, but that does not mean that i or anyone else has the right to abuse him. After the release of the demo, (and full game), last year, Ackter was subjected to an almost constant barrage of personal abuse that stepped way over the line as far as I'm concerned, and despite me reporting much of what I saw, there seemed to be very little action taken in response by SI. (I appreciate that when a poster is post-modded there is no visible consequences).
If SI want to improve this forum, then I would suggest they should start to implement some of the existing rules rather than bleat about the consequences of their taking little or no action for such a long period.
Without mentioning names, how someone who gets a ban on one account for improper use of this forum, and a lifetime ban on another account for creating an alias while banned on the first account, is allowed to come back into the forum with the original account, (what's the point of a life ban on one account?), and then is offered a position to test FM08 is beyond me. Then while testing, he repeatedly breaks testing rules and posts on here just to get a reaction out of the people not is such a lucky position. When this is brought up, your response, (it's not personal so SI's response rather than the individual), is that should the person be punished and do we want him hung drawn and quartered.
We don't want anyone hung drawn and quartered. We want the existing rules enforced on a day to day basis so that we don't have to put of with the sort of shambles that we have been subjected to over the last year to 18 months.