would like to be able to play as a club and have a friendly with an national side or their youth squad ect.
would like a piece of news regarding the champs leaugh uefa cup finals ect.
sort out the confidance issue regarding the cups when you play a reserve side ect and the fans are mad when a player for the future doesnt get a game.
would like to get to vote for a player of the year ect.
- A good transfer AI (this is a MUST!)
- Intuitive tactics interface
- Better player and press interaction
- Better team talks
I know its a bit early and we wont hear anything official from SI yet but i think its about time to start discussing. What do people think we need for FM2010? What needs to be tweaked? What needs to be added? What could SI spring as the one/two stunning new features they tend to add each year (3D last year for example)?
My thoughts so far (will add more over the next few hours/days/weeks but keep suggesting):
3D engine - was a really good start but it still has a long way to go, hopefully this will be stepped up this year
Press conferences - didnt quite come off, for me, i tend not to use them. I hope this could be improved. More variety would certainly be nice.
Assistant Managers - nice ideas but again didnt really come off in 09, would love to see this feature expanded (partly because i find 09 much much harder than previous games and its nice to have a balance between difficulty and potential for success through hard work)
League/World View - Not quite sure what can be done about this, but I've noticed that unless you want to spend hours trawling through match reports or worse still watching every game in every league, you have a very sketchy view of what's going on outside your team, and more still outside your league - perhaps more reports on who is playing really well, who perhaps is underperforming, big things that are going on in the world of footy? (e.g. this season IRL - the surprise performances of Aston Villa who did so well for the first half of the season and the players who did well there, Stoke City's overachieving etc.). Also could be good for teams lower in a league who are looking to buy new players, perhaps from the league below (e.g. Beattie for Stoke this season IRL...).
Any thoughts from anyone?
Overhaul the media aspect of the game. Introduce better questions or scrap it completely. Simply being able to say thats not something i particularly agree with to a comment you want to answer much more extensively is something that really bothers me in press conferences.
Would be good if you could ask the players at your club more questions about there mood. Example , keane goal drought you can say dont worry mate you wwill score soon etcc. If a player is left out of the international squad you can go on record and criticise the decision or say that if he keeps playing well he will get it. If a player has interest from other clubs you should be able t sit down in a meeting wiith him and say do you want to go? or i wont stop you oving in the hnext transfer window but please stick it out til then etc.....
All these media aspects should be able to effect morale just like current ones.
Confidence still not quite right needs improving
Next point is about interest. Alot of my games i end up getting most of my team wanted by other clubs and then about 100 bids come in every trannsfer window . Its too much in my opinion. Furthermore if you stop a transfer by getting the player to secure a new deal. then that coontract should mean alot more than just preventing the player from wanting to leave in that transfer window. One example of this is when i offered corluka a new 4 year big contract he was happy in january then wanted to leve in june.
In general something needs to be done about players wanting out too much. Especialially when they are at a successful club anyway. Perhaps the balance of player ambition is a bit iffy at times i do not know the cause personally, but tweeked it would be better.
Training is an area ive always wanted to see overhauled. Ithink that it should be more difficult to do right but offer great reards when done so. I think that we should be able to use a mouse and pointers or slide players about on a 2d pitch to simulate set pieces if u see what i mean. I want to be able to tell king to play a screen on the defender on the penalty spot freeeing up space where he came from for woodgate to swivvle into.
I think that tactically the game is very very good. That is not to say it could be better. Am unsure whether or not i miss the side arrows as it did help with narrow formations off the ball and wide on. This is something that does hapen in football but it cannot be replicated on the game. Setting wide , to me only effects the amount of goals you score or conceed not the shape of your team.
Id love some commentary and better stadium sounds. (dreaming)
Id like to see more goals from corners and set pieces
Dont like the way the computer always gets one more chance to attack late on but that is good i guess coz otherwise id win too many matches ;)
Oh also when you get a great result away from home in say the chmps league then you go home play a similar style but maybe have two up top and give fullbacks more freedom you somehow lose 5-0 . Crazyness
Last edited by FmGeenieScout; 26-05-2009 at 17:04.
After many years on this forum of just 'viewing from the sidelines' I have finally plucked up the courage to make one little suggestion for future versions of FM that may improve the gameplay experience somewhat. I would like to see a review of the way that every action you take, no matter how trivial, requires confirmation.
I hope that you know what I mean? For instance when you want to add a player to your shortlist or make a new contract offer to one of your coaches. It's like when you confirm to your mum that maybe yes you would like sugar on your cornflakes today, and she asks you earnestly 'are you absolutely sure about that?', like whatever your decision is may have some Earth-altering effect. I feel that is all just a little over the top and that the following are three alternatives that might improve this aspect of the UI:
* Remove the confirm prompts completely and replace them with an "Undo" option for any time you make a screw-up (only where the action can be 'undone' of course !).
* Include a 'Configure Confirmations' screen in Preferences where the player can decide which of all the actions he/she wants to have to confirm and which he/she doesn't, e.g. maybe you feel that you don't want to have to confirm everytime that you want to extend the time a player remains on your shortlist so you would untick this option, but maybe you do want to have to confirm every time you make an offer to buy a player so you would leave that option ticked. This way you can customize the game to 'flow' more how you want it to.
* A combination of the two: customization of the confirm options with the 'undo' option for hastily made or erroneous button-clicks. For what it's worth this would be my personal choice if I had any say in the matter which of course I don't so hardly worth mentioning then really was it?! ahem.
Anyway that's my tuppence worth: not in any way connected with the actual gameplay, but I hope that it would help players enjoy the game just a little bit more in the future.
Ricky (geddit? )
Good call there, that would save me a lot of time IMO. I'd go for the "UNDO" option rather than a complicated routine of confirming some things but not others.
Last edited by GreyedOutMan; 26-05-2009 at 17:25.
From what I've seen, the refs dont play advantage. This should definately be changed.
az - they're not supposed to IRL any more - creates too much controversy. So its a question of whether the refs should be realistic or stick to regulations (as they don't in real life...plenty of refs still do it (sensibly) even though they're not supposed to)
1- extra team-talks for the players you sub in.
2- ability to change your 2nd,3rd jersey color/style
I would like to see the board get more involved like when i ask for the stadium to be expanded they say i cant because of the council...nut they wont build a stadium for me..i am richest club in world(Real Madrid) i have loads of money but they don't build me a new stadium. also it could be a good idea to have players ego's come into play, like a player getting to big headed so a fight occurs at training.. something like that. also players leaving clubs on free transfers even though it says there happy at the club. speaking of which young players leaving on the cheap when there gunna be highly rated ina few years. thats about it
Expanding on the point of telling a new player you mean to build the team around him, I'd like for you to be able to - providing your board trust you enough - ask the board to perhaps take out a loan to provide funds for a big signing. You could say that you mean to mould the team around him and it is crucial you can afford him. Would be a great touch if you're a mid table side
1) better use of assistant manager, e.g. reports to you every week saying how training is going, general morale of the team, tactical suggestions etc basically to have a better relationship with your assistant like in real life.
2) to make the board more intelligent e.g. when you ask to expand the stadium and they expand it by 45 seats, bit of a joke really and also when they say the council wont allow planning permission then they take out a loan and build a new one etc
3) for the board to be more involved with transfers e.g. you have to communicate with the CEO to go and negoiate a transfer with a players agent and you send him a wishlist. this is exactly what happens in real life. Plus for the chairman to buy players without your permission every now and then like Abramovich did with Shevchenko, SI did do this is Champ Man but have taken the feature away but i would like it to come back!
4) to have a 3d stadium option for expanding the stadium so you can see what it looks like and maybe have the option to choose what stands to put it, this could be a brilliant new feature that is a lot of fun!
5) the board are aloud to take out a loan for a new player to make sure you get him and not another club
6) being able to talk to a player you hope to sign to tell him what your plans are for the club and where he fits in with those plans
7) an overhaul of press conferences as they are completely useless and very annoying and also repetitive
8) being able to communicate with players better and more options to do so not just 5 options to tell them they are playing bad or good
9) the whole business aspect of the game sucks, football is not just about football anymore, its a business and needs to be ran properly therefore a revamp on the business/finances section needs to be done
10) the ability to design new kits or have a say in a new kit design
I've just thought of something. Don't know if it has been mentioned already, but I would like to see some sort of graphic of players on last yellow in the submit team and match preview screens. I know you get it in the pre-match preview (before submitting the team) but a yellow card beside a players jersey would be nice.
how bout the referee not wearing the same kit as the team playing and since when do football league referees wear blue kits.
how bout players not walking through the nets, advertising boards and through the stands like they don't exist!!!
also how bout stretchers taking the players off
delays for kick off due to crowd congestion on big match days
an attendance higher than 13000 for a league 2 playoff final
how many away fans attended the game
rain during the game
more finances available when teams win promotion to the premier league i.e. when i won promotion with reading a top half finish got me 4 million to spend
ROLLING STATISTIC SUMMARY
Basically, sums up any statistics of note. Could be placed anywhere but I think it would be good if it appeared while the game is processing (rather like the 'hints') and also on the news screen or somewhere by the inbox.
Could include the following examples of team stats:
St. Albans City have won 23 points out of the last 36
... not won at home for 3 games
... not scored away for 2 games
... only have one win in 6
... have not won for 5 games
etc. etc. etc.
Then for players, it could be the following examples:
Paul Hakim has the best strike rate in the team this season, with a strike rate of 0.53.
Ben Martin has played the most amount of minutes for the Saints so far this season, playing for a total of 1890 minutes.
Jonathan Hunt has converted 2 out of 2 penalties this season so far.
Gary Cohen has picked up the most amount of yellow cards, having been booked 4 times so far this season.
Then perhaps even a miscellaneous rolling summary too, with information such as:
St. Albans have used a total of 30 players in the league so far this season.
The Saints have kept 3 clean sheets so far at home this season.
The highest attendance at Clarence Park so far this season was 623 against Chelmsford City.
The lowest attendance at CP so far this season was 373 against Thurrock.
The average attendance this season so far is 482.
A total of 5,305 fans have attended games at CP this season.
Even an overall league version might be good, with information such as:
Any hat-tricks scored so far that season. Or penalties, missed penalties, own goals etc.
The number of games won by one goal or some such obscure but interesting stat.
Recent sequences by other teams in the division.
My other idea is for:
GOAL TIME DISTRIBUTION
Essentially, a graph split up into segments for each half and showing when during the game goals are being scored, conceded or both.
If it was possible perhaps to include a stat such as this in the game that would be rather good and could also feed into the rolling stats summary with information such as:
St. Albans have scored most of their goals just after half-time this season.
St. Albans have a habit of conceding goals just before half-time so far this season.
Just thought I would throw these ideas out there. All of this would just add a bit of colour to the game and provide something interesting to read whilst processing. It would mean that some of these interesting or obscure statistics were available in clear English without the user having to make an effort to find that particular stat out. It might provide some moments of amusement that the user might have otherwise missed.
So, in other words, an accessible rolling summary which translates interesting statistics about your team, players, league &etc. into English as an interesting fact to read.
Last edited by crouchaldinho; 26-05-2009 at 23:21.
Little addition to player interaction: Option to negotiate about the player's future in team. I suppose in IRL it happens quite often that the player and the manager sit down and talk about the future. This could be in a way where you make "road maps" together with the player. You tell him that "You have 3 years left in your contract. In the following season I'm going to loan you out, then if all goes well, you're going to be a backup to first team, and on the third year you're going to be a first team regular."
* The crowd sound should be different depending on the level of the game. If you play with an obscure team in a lower league game it should be eerily quiet. The top games should be incredibly noisy.
* More songs, drums and other fan sounds
* If the away team scores a goal it should become quiet, and some booing and catcalls
In Depth Training
More training options instead of those sliders
This is an enormous thread so if someone from SI Games is still reading this far then well done!
I think massively-multiplayer games would be a great addition, in the mould of OOTP Baseball. Instead of having to arrange lots of people to be online at the same time, you all do your team lineups, transfer offers etc offline, then send in your updated files by a certain deadline and the league commissioner sims ahead the next week/few days or whatever is agreed.
Obviously this would need a few changes to the format, e.g. games would only played on Saturday / Wednesday, and each 'Continue' takes you from Sat to Wed without pausing for manager interaction in between. Assistant Manager would have to control matches, but you could leave in-depth instructions for him, for example "If losing after 80 minutes change to All-Out Attack".
I appreciate SI have tried to address this with FM Live, but for me the addiction to FM has always been the realism, so I'm not really interested in creating FC Polar Bear with Ronaldo & Messi up front and playing a bunch of friendlies against other randoms. Playing in a league where all 92 English league teams are human-controlled would be great fun. SI could make a bit of money by hosting the leagues themselves and charging each manager as they do with FM Live.
tweak the options when if i chose to go on holiday if i was testing a tactic.you only get the option to choose "current" tactic.which kind of comes unstuck if i'm playing an attacking tactic at home and a more controlled one away.
Not have to reputation of players decrease so drastically, or even at all, as they get older. David Beckham is a classic case in point; his rep drops to a meagre Continental just a few months into the game.
* Attributes should be from 0-100 for a better scope between lousy and brilliant players
* If you hover over an attribute with the pointer, you should get a tooltip explaining the attribute
* If you hover over an increase/decrease in attribute, you should get an explanation why the value has changed, and the exact numerical value
Ugh, if I see another person asking for the ability to design kits or buy houses I'm going to puke. Seriously though, this is football manager, not sims: sports manager or anything like that.
Yep, still reading...
Just a random idea...
At a World Cup or European Championships etc. you should be able to be invited to a TV show like MOTD then have questions put to you like the press conference way! What you think?
Right, this is going to be a mighty long posts, so prepare yourselves. I’m going to divide this post into several sections, so I will start off with the less important and gradually build by way up to the suggestions I feel would make the biggest impact.
Yeh, so, clubs in real life have agreements with different sponsors and businesses to bring in money for things like kits and facilities. Well, I think it’d be a cool idea to be able to agree different deals with different companies so that we could change our income. As a result, we’d be able to decide how much goes into different areas of the club. I’m not sure it’d work really well, and I’m positive I haven’t made myself clear, but I think it could work well as a minor adjustment to the club and its funding.
Secondly, club kits. Once every 5 – 10 years, the club is going to need a slight adjustment to the kits, and, as the manager, I feel the board would take the managers creativity and artwork very seriously. J Anyway, designing club kits or adjusting them slightly would probably make more money, due to fans wanting new kits and such.
Just a short one. More questions in press conferences and a bigger variety of coice of words for questions. I don’t want Bill Chamberlain from BBC news saying exactly what Bob Samsy from the News of the World said last week about a different match. It minorly ruins the continutity of press conferences and you get the feel you’re In a time warp every time you go to one. Personally, I see press conferences as one of the most fun parts of the games, and I feel this is the only addition it needs.
Currently, there is only a limited amount of things you can say to a player. These things range from “I hate your recent performances” to “Are you sure you’re not a reincarnation of Jesus? Because that’s how you’re playing”. I want to say more things, like, “Play well or you’re dropped”, or “Make sure you do well next game”. Things like that. It adds more deph to the game.
Next, I think you shouldn’t have to say things in front of the press about a player. Sir Alex Ferguson doesn’t go to a press conference and say, “Rio, I am very disappointed with your recent performances”. Ferguson would speak with the player privately. But, and I think this was a feature on FM Handheld, you should have the option of saying it in public or in private. This would affect the impact of what you say.
Manager Profile Screen
I take my manager profile very seriously, indeed I do. But I don’t want it to vary much from other managers. I want to select different people as my favoured personnel, I want to have the opportunity to do that. I also want to be able to put my full name on the manager profile screen, rather than just my first and second name. It’s these tiny things that make your profile more accurate.
Secondly, a new addition to the manager profile screen I feel would work well. A rivalry section, where rivals and people the manager isn’t fond of are listed. As a result, they would be seen bickering via press conferences and such.
Youth Setup Interaction
In what could turn out to be absolutely useless or unbelieveably useful, I want to be able to interact with the very young talent, the players under the age of 14. There has been no interaction with that side of the game. I want to be able to attend a game between the local junior teams. Eg; the Whitby Boys U12 squad vs the Shaunby Boys U12 squad. This means we can gurantee future prospects and bring them into the youth setup. We could also assign scouts to go to such matches.
Reserves and U18 Management
It’s something I’d really, really love. The opportunity to manage the Reserves and U18’s of a club, rather than manage the first team, too. Eg; say you are unemployed. The manager of a low-profile club may approach you to lead the U18’s to glory. If you have a better reputation, a higher-ranked club may ask you to become their Reserves coach or something like that. That way, we could build our way up through the clubs managing ladder. Of course, we could still be offered the role of manager, but also coach of U18’s and Reserves.
Not much to suggest, really, except a few things for Player Instructions and something to do with forward runs. So, first off, for Players Instructions, I think we should be able to tell our players how wide they should play. Eg; if we want to bring our wingers inwards and put our central midfielders to the sides.
Now for Forward Runs. If I remember rightly, in FM08 you could make players run to certain areas, which was removed in FM09 for forward, mixed and backward runs. I don’t think this new idea was very good. I much preferred the prospect of central midfielders running back diagonally, or wingers running into the center. It added more depth and control to the tactics.
Well, thanks for reading. Got to go massage my hands now that they’re old and crippled. SI, please consider my suggestions carefully, because I’ve thought really hard about them. Thanks.
I would like to have a facility to highlight players in my squad.
For example; I have a load of youth players I want to play every now and again, and a load of old and past it players just in my squad to make up the numbers. It would be nice to highlight all the youth players in one colour, and the old players in another, this way I can see at a glance who I want to play. The facility could be used for many other reasons, I just feel that I would use it for that reason. (ie: when a player is on loan/trial etc he is a different colour, I would like a few extra colours that I could specify players being to highlight them to me).
Hope that makes sense, would love to see it. Yes I know you might argue I could just check the ages/stats/info or simply remember the name, it'd just be nice to do it at a glance. (Especially in a foreign league with similar player names and many regens.)
Like others have said, its really annoying when an 18 yr old wants a lot of first time action even when the player starting in his position is a lot better than him (Kroos, Sniejder). And, again like others have said, in the Spanish Super Cup, the board and fans should be fine if I play my 2nd team.
When setting Manager Experience, you have limited options with daft outcomes.
EG: If I select the past experience of a Professional Footballer, I could be anything from Steve Bruce to Mickey Lewis and FM will always give me a reputation of 6000. And an Ex-England International could be anything from Alan Shearer to Anthony Gardner.
It'd be nice to have your own player history (with multiple clubs) at a level of your choosing and the ability to choose your own manager reputation to suit the game you want to play.
Attributes must stay between 1 and 20, 100 would be chaos like Champ Man 5 - don't do it SI!
i must say i would love the whole manage a u18/ reserve side to get your reputation up.
but the thing is on fm09 reputation plays a massive part ie stoke and hull ALWAYS go down so obviosly you cannot judge how good a side will be but looking at their players etc could help. also it would be good to see things like boardroom arguments which affect your team ie hicks vs gillet or ashley wise and lambias vs kevin keegan
If you have been at the club long enough and the Board likes you, I think it would be great if they valued your input for a manager replacement once you decide to leave the club as manager.
Taking the backroom staff with you seems very good feature, not revolutionary but will fix having to getting a whole new backroom staff roster every move. I also think should be part of the contract negotiations so like basically when I get moved to a new club I try to cancel contracts of all the dead wood but some of them get blocked because of too much money to pay. So in orignial contract negotiations:
Sign for this much.
Sign for this long.
Take backroom staff yes/no.
How much budget you get.
Expectations now, 3 years, 10 years.
Key players the club wants you to get or if they want to be stingy with money.
What about it? Am I being ********?
this is just a thought, but why not have the board messing with team affairs like telling you to play a certain player or certain formation (which has supposedly happened at qpr), and you can either roll over and oblige or you can give the board an ultimatum to stop messing with team affairs which can end in several outcomes, they back down or they fire you etc etc
For international management: As it is now, there´s players who "sees no benefit" in gaining a 2:nd nationality. I´d like to see a feature under "Player interaction" where you can ask those players to gain that second nationality so you can add them to the national team.
For example: I have this really great uncapped swiss goalie in a MLS-team that would fit perfect in my Team USA, unfortunaly he "sees no benefit" to get that american passport.
i would like it, that when you sign youth players, the fans dont moan cause they havent played... so when signing a player potentially an option to stipulate when you expect him to properly make his 1st team, or an option to say "youth team player" etc... also the option to tell the fans/chairman that you will be playing a weak/youth team in certain games/cups etc...
probably has already been mentioned tbh...
NEW SCOUTING SYSTEM... Its probably been mentioned but heres my take...
Big clubs have scouts all over the world, bringing in youth to their academies, some how this could be a good feature, although I dont know how. Also when scouts bring back reports, have an option with, "this youngster might be a good investment to sell in a few years....
I think a small and maybe interesting idea would be to have a farewell match for retiring players, that were legends at the club, so you could organize a friendly just like the one there was for Bergkamp where Ajax played against Arsenal..
I would like to see some kind of fan response when selling a fan favorite, icon or legend. I mean if I took over Chelsea and sold Terry and Lampard I don't think the fans would be too happy with me no matter how many wonderkids I bring in. I would like to see them rake me in the press and demand my head.
Signing good players affects the confidence level of the board and fans, selling good players should too.
I am sure if that there would be all kinds of downfall if someone tries to sell/release players like Maldini or Raul out of their clubs, for example.That should be better represented in FM somehow.
i think that if you had the option to request training camps to be built around the world e.g. you went in the board room tab and requested a new training camp to be built and the board came back and gave you a list of countries and you reccoment what country. like how you do with feeder clubs. this would then mean the whole scouting knowledge feature will have even more of a positive effectand it will help the whole scouting system and mean that youth will have more of a chance on the game.
* Official logos for each club in the game (not just the big ones)
* Nicknames for clubs mentioned in club info, example. Halmstads BK = HBK
* A red spot on a map indicates the geographical position of the club
* Graphical representation of the club stadium. Let´s make for example 20 different 3D-models for stadium from the tiny to the biggest in the world, and let these models represents the stadia for the clubs in the game. It would feel like more of an accomplishment if you manage to expand your tiny village stadium with 200 seats into a sprawling complex later on if we could actually see it!
Voice commentary!!! Performed by Andy Gray or any old person hired to read out the text! Now that would be revolutionary!
Would put SI right up there with Infinity Award, Rockstar...for ground breaking achievements.
Graphical Display of the club trophy cabinet at the end of each year.
Like other graphical aspects of the game (logo-packs, face-packs etc...) their could be the option to also create fan-made 'trophy-packs' to further enhance the displaying silverware.
Include other awards too with graphics such as golden boot of the year, Ballon d'Or' etc...
The transfer/contract page and system could do with a face lift.
A lot of wording throughout the game need's sharpening from team-talks to manager interactions.
'Kick over tea trolley' would maybe feel a bit more real then just clicking on 'Show anger at team'.
Manager interaction : A bit of Mourinho mischief, Ferguson mind-games, Rafa's 'fact' rants...wheres the wit and sense of humor!
At key stages of the season instead of just 'Title Race Hot's Up' how about an actual analysis of the season to that point? would make every season seem that much different.
Last edited by Bryna robson; 02-06-2009 at 18:42.
I don't know if it's been mentioned but here's my big wish for FM10:
Tempo, width, time wasting & defensive line should be located directly on the match screen, so you can change them on short notice, without going into the team instructions in the tactics section. Also, team passing, team mentality and team closing down (team instructions) should be relative to the individual settings you've already given your players; if your FCd has got a mentality of 10 and your FCa has got 14, and you move team mentality two notches above normal, they should have mentalities of 12 & 16 respectively!
These small changes would help the tactics interface becoming a more pleasant experience. They way it's now, changing tactics takes really many clicks if you havent created multiple tactics beforehand.
This should be a fairly easy implemented change, that really makes the tactics (arguably the most important part of the game) easier to control. I'm not after making the game any easier in itself, only making it more accessible and user friendly.
Last edited by ottey_swe; 02-06-2009 at 20:13.
The CM series used to have commentary - i believe it was Clive Tyldesley? - but it just gets too repetitive. One thing i would like to see is a more realstic player ratings system. Currently, the performance of your players seems to be too much based on previous performances - i know its only one factor but it seems too important. And yet the match engine has it so that a striker who has a stinker and is playing at, say, 5.4 until the 90th minute when he scores a penalty, often ends up with something like 7.6 which means he gets a boost for the next few games despite having had a total shocker. Needs looking at.
But yeah, the commentary is very unlikely to return any time soon - it just gets repetitive.
Oh and Ottey swe, that's BRILLIANT! I have been fiddling a lot lately with the sliders and it does take a lot of time. In-game sliders and, in particular, the relative team settings, would make the actual games SO much easier!
But yeah, the commentary is very unlikely to return any time soon - it just gets repetitive.
I was hoping it would sound like listening to a match on the radio or the commentary live on matches.
Last edited by Bryna robson; 02-06-2009 at 21:45.
Hi all, this is my first post in the wishlist so be gentle ;) But seriously, im up for any feedback, be it criticism or praise, let me know what you think
This is the original thread
So here is my idea:
As you are all aware, there was much speculation of what team Alex Ferguson would pick to play against Hull in the last game of the season, Ferguson picked a capable side, but left out a few key players, now as we know, Villa beat Newcastle, but what if Newcastle beat Villa, and Hull beat this weaker United site, imagine the stick that Ferguson would get from all of the Newcastle fans, and it is very likely, that Newcastle boss Shearer would criticize Ferguson for his tactics.
I played with Millwall this year on FM, and won promotion with 6 games to go, one of my remaining games include Leeds away, but since i was still in the FA Cup, i wanted to rest all of my first 11. Leeds needed to win to keep their promotion chase alive, so when i fielded all of my youth team, Leeds not surprisingly ran out winners 3-1. Southend could do nothing about this, as they slipped down to third. Leeds eventually won promotion, by winning all of their remaining games. Now, southend also won all of their remaining games, so if i would of picked my strongest 11 (No boasting) i would of beaten or at least held leeds to a draw, this would of gave Southend promotion. The southend boss couldnt criticise my tactics, as this feature is not in the game. I would love to see this feature in the game, where managers, along with already being able to praise and criticise managers via the manager interaction link, be able to criticise managers tactics/squad selection for their previous game.
What do you think?
My team is now on top of the leagues, unbeaten for last 13 games, winning 10 of it. And media prediction in information screen keep saying i will finish 9th. They even already doomed me on the ninth before transfer windows ends And my opponent alway get fav odds, eventhough i almost always win comfortably.
If only the bookies are as stupid as the AI.
- More leagues. Preferably lots of African ones and some of the more obscure European ones.
- Quicker regeneration of players in leagues that don't start with any (i.e. in unplayable leagues).
- Complete overhaul of player regeneration, with new crops of more balanced players better reflecting their real-life counterparts.
The ability to buy clubs with your earnt money! After a successful managerial career, you could retire and become chairman of a club you could afford to buy, and then appoint a manager or manage yourself.. This would of course make you unsaccable, and you would be in total control of the club..
And to people saying this can already be done in fifa manager or some other game, I want to do it with the real game, FM.
Updating manager profile screen, more than anything.
I want to have the option to choose people as my Favoured Personnel, Favoured Clubs if I have been there for a while, etc.
Though it's probably been mentioned about 50 times already, RYMAN LEAGUE!!!! So I can manage the Magic Wands to Football League GLORY!!
I think that the tactics interface could be improved. For the setpieces, I propose that you have the 2D-pitch and could manually place out the players where you want them to be in relation to the setpiece-taker. Also, you could with this interface give more detailed instructions to your setpiece-taker. For example, if freekicks are near penalty area, you want your freekick-taker to try to get it into the net. From a more distant angle, you could instruct him to aim a pass/cross to a player of your choice.
This interface could also be used when choosing man-marking. You have the two formations against each other on a 2D-pitch and could then click directly on the pitch on the opposing player you want to man-mark.
Be able to shout stuff to the pitch while the game is on, would be great if you could do that, will come in handy
No need new features. Improves the existing one
a) Make the 3D match look better
b) Scouting and assistant report can improved
c ) Don't ask same question in press conference. The tactical approach should only been ask at the start of the seasons. Look at the team goals and conceded at the end of the seasons whether they follow the tactic they told at the start
How about FM introduce a feature whereby instead of player pictures you can get a graphical version of the back of their shirt? Surely it would be a good way for users to avoid downloading facepacks, and it would be better than a plain screen. It would surely be pretty easy to implement, and would mean i didn't have to get rid of Jordan Tabor from Chelsea on a free to avoid seeing his monstrous face! It would also mean that you don't go through your squad and see players in barcelona shirts etc when your playing in the premiership...
Would be a good idea for players who don't have faces, but the ones who do, I think people would rather see there faces.
yeah, i agree, but it would be good if there was some sort of alternative i think, and i don't think it would be too sophisticated to create.
How about the option to go on a course to learn a new language? say for example I have been managing my whole career in england but decide that I want to go manage in france it would be good to be able to have an option to go on a course to learn french (or what ever language you require) you could have the media ask you a question about it matchday or a rumour appear that 'x' has been taking french lessons fueling reports he is primed to take over at 'french club with either no manager or underpressure manager', lots of ways you could go with it as well.
Imo its the little things that make a difference, my only other suggestion is that the media interaction is expanded, instead of 5 answers have say 7 options.
I would like input from my coaches on training schedules.
At the moment there is a lot of luck/trial and error to find a balanced schedule, I think if coaches could tell you what would work better it could make the training side of the game a lot less frustrating.
Apologies if this has been suggested already, there is a massive amount of posts here and I simply don't have time to read all of them, but after skimming, I think these suggestions might be worthwhile:
I would love it if there were interviews with magazines and/or other media. It would really add depth to the media side of the game, that isn't there in Press Conferences. For instance if you are playing as a League One team, and you are building a team which is progressing nicely, perhaps a magazine might be interested in interviewing you etc. Similarly if your managing a big club, obviously you will be asked to do more interviews. It would be a nice feature if you were to get paid for such media appearances.
Similarly I think there should be the aim of broadening the depth of questions posed in press conferences. It can be a little tedious answering the same questions.
I'll post more when I think of them. I was just playing and I thought that maybe these additions to the media might make a little difference
Anyone know when we can expect the start of the announcements for the new game, and what will be in it?
This has probably been said, but i think it is is an essential feature.
I would love to interact with a potential signing at the contract stage - especially when 10 other clubs want the same player. Managing Luton, I constantly lose out to bigger teams when trying to buy or loan players. It would basically work like the press conferences, and we would tell the player where he would fit into the team (key player, rotation, bench-warmer, future star etc) why he should join us (challenging for promotion, european qualification for top tier, etc).
IRL many players would be happy to be a regular for a lesser team, rather than backup to a big team
Here in Greece, the former coach of AEK Giorgos Donis came out and said after he was fired 1/3 into the season that he had an impossible task, as he started the pre-season with a different squad than he ended it off with. Essentially what happened was that all the transfers of players in and out took place late, so 7 players he started off the campaign with were sold, and were replaced gradually taking up time all the way until the end of August.
Olympiacos was also late in making its key signings, and it probably cost them their lack of qualification to the Champions League group stages for the first time in 13 years.
If you observe now, squads want to make their key signings as early as possible, so the new signings can be part of the ENTIRE pre-season campaign, where a coach works on tactics, gets to know players etc. Thus, I would like somehow for managers who are astute and make their signings immediately upon the end of the season, before the next season starts, to have some sort of advantage, since technically they would have spent their entire pre-season with the squad, rather than have players come and go in between... Pre-season needs to be given a bigger emphasis and there should be some sort of added tactical bonus you can do during that period, where you watch the training and criticise players, offer them suggestions to change their playing styles etc.
I've been playing the cm/fm series since cm2-3 and I have to say I like how the game has developed since then. I think the including of the 3D match engine was a good thing, although I still stick to 2D classic.
1. As previously mentioned I'd like the ability to give instructions (team talks) to players being subbed and brought onto the pitch, like during half-time talks.
"Make available for reserve team"-option
2. I don't know if it's been mentioned before, or If I'm the only one struggling with it, but after installing the 9.0.3 patch, I suddenly lost the "Make available for reserves" option when right clicking my players. I remember it was an option with: Make available for reserves: 1) until match-fit
2) for 1 week
3) for 2 weeks
I'd also like a 4th option for players I'd like to have ready for a certain 1st team match, say I want Ronaldinho to be match fit to my match against Barcalona, then with that option you force the reserve coach to use him. Taking control of the reserve team takes too much time.
Now the only way to define which players will be set for the reserve team is through the newspost on the matchday of the reserves, which is extremely annoying.
Having a huge squad and only 18 selected players (11 field+7subs) means I have to first select my match lineup. Then press "Make selected players unavailable for reserve match" and "Make substitutes unavailable for reserve match." I also press "make all unselected players available for reserves."
Then I have to give the people in my A squad which I don't want to play either A or B squad match selections and go to the newspost again and press "make selected players unavailable for reserve match."
Some people might think "why not just let the players you're not gonna use in your first team match play your reserve match?" - Well, sometimes players are recovering from an injury (orange inj icon) and I want them to fully heal before being matched. Aswell as during tight match schedules I want several options on each position if injuries were to occur to key players.
Your own managerial stats
3. They just don't make any sense. I want to be able to compare myself to other managers. Financial control and club/player lojalty could still be there, but I want stats as other managers have. F.ex you could have working with youngsters read off your youth team and your youngsters/younger players. If they like you, the stats would be high. Social attributes, motivating and disciplin linked to how the team responds to team talks and comments to the media, tactical how your tactics work with the players etc.
And the other ratings from how well gk's and defending is from the training improvements of your players.
This way I feel it would be more interesting and easier to read off how you perform and where you could improve, when comparing yourself to rival managers.
Able to pick favorite players/clubs/staff during games
4. While players and staff bond and connect with eachother during the seasons, I think you as a manager should be able to make players and staff on the "Good relationship" tab.
Inspect contract offered to players waiting for transfer completion
5. During the start of the game I often find myself offering contracts to many players at the same time, and re-assuring yourself that you didn't offer a player a rediculous amount of money for sign on fee f.ex, could help out. Not a big issue just for overall feel of control.
I know theres more ideas I've thought of before but forgotten, but Its late and I'm getting ready for work so I'll have to edit/make a new post with the rest of my ideas.
If anyone bothered reading through please comment on the ideas, if I'm twisted or If I'm onto something.
Thanks for a great game
In light of the recent debates of Messi vs. Ronaldo etc etc, it got me thinking about how players are rated potentially in FM. The fact that if a player gets faster, it impacts on his ability to improve technically is pretty unrealistic. What if all players had 3 potential ability numbers, one for technical, one for mental and one for physical? That would allow for greater freedom with player creation.
I know the work to re-evaluate every player in the game would be colossal, I just wanted to see what other people thought of this.
I only play FM 06, so maybe this has been changed by now...
Can SI please obtain license from UEFA to use the actual names and logos of the tournaments? We should have "Champions League" and "UEFA Cup" instead of some invented "Champions Cup" ans "Euro Cup"...
If SI get license, maybe they can use the actual logos and that cool CL-intro with the impressive title song?
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Too much cost for something that the fans can made for their own.
Also, the list of attributes are definietly a staggering and bewildering thing to overcome for a newcomer to the game, and SI definietly has made little effort to help.
If you click on an attribute (for player or staff) in their profile, you will get a new screen, which contains:
* A picture with a simple graphical representation of the attribute (for instance, a player tackling for the "tackling"-attribute)
* An in-depth description of the attribute and its role in the game
* A classification of the attribute (based on the training categories already used in the game), for instance "composure" should be classed as "Mental, Attacking"
* An advice for which type of players or positions this attribute is essential for
Also, on the squad screen you should be able to pick out whatever stats you like and also summarize them borth horizontally and vertically. I might just want to pick my penalty-takers and sort out the attributes essential for this. Then I may want to summarize the stats for each player in these attributes to get an overall score. The vertical score would be useful for example to see how good your entire squad is at "stamina". You could then get an overall score for the entire squad, making it easier to see what your team must improve upon.
Also, in the training screen, it would be nice if the assistant manager had some advice on what your players should train on.
For example, you pick out your Attacking Midfielder, and your Assistant Manager will say something like:
"Player X has a lot of talent, and may develop into a potential playmaker. I suggest we focus on training tactics and ball control on this player"
another thing that i think needs to change is board takeovers, there too brief! a new feature should be brought in where some members of the board buy more and more shares in preperation for a takeover e.g. arsenal's situation atm. this would then give you extra funds and a realistic approach to how board members take over a football club. they take their time waiting for the right moment. plus another feature should be that every now and then shareholders put in money to help the club progress an example would be at sunderland with Short putting in an extra £50m to help with transfers. i think therefore adding this little feature to the game would add abit more realism. i know that there is a feature that when your bank balance is below a certain point then the chairman steps in and puts in £xm to bolster it but this is only for teams like man city. im saying that board members should be more active in board takeovers or just helping the club progress.
Ok this is what i want to see. A screen of shots display like this :http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/shotch...meId=290607013.
Is it possible? So we can know if our team is taking too many long shots.
well, i'd like to see on new features of the game the possibility to be a player (with the possibility to be a coach/manager in the future), a simply coach (only turned to the tactics and training and including youth teams coach), a sporting director (only turned to the financial strategy of the team) and the both two that is what actually happens. it could be like a career that starts as player only having games and training sessions and answering questions to improve the mental atributtes. next, with the experience and graduations, the player could become a coach/sporting director/manager by choose.
the chairman/sporting director could also buy players by himself without consentiment of manager/couch having questions of press to warm up the relationship between them. (not my idea, but i liked)
it could also have a way to spend the money earned (on family or buing a team in case of earn too much money). (idem)
in case of the frame, tactics and market transfeers i've seen ideas that liked, but i don't have a based idea for that.
There are some great ideas on this thread however a lot fo them seem to be edging towards the fifa manager style, the whole reason I love Fm is because it isnt like Fifa manager.
I would love to see;
1 - youth camps all over the world like chelsea are doing in india now,
2 - more youth leagues maybe just under 16s and under 14s so you can watch players progress.
3 - Press conferences need more questions, i cant be bothered answering the same questions week in week out.
4 - When joining a new club being able to bring your backroom staff and setting short term and long term targets.
5 - Bring back board choices in players, i.e clubs will give you extra money for a big name signing and chairman bringing players in like at hearts.
6 - Players are happy to go on loan even if you have just bought them, especially if they are young players.
7 - Not have to be at a club for years to choose the type of feeder club you want.
8 - Tell players your view on their performances in private rather than blabbing to the papers.
On a side note I always wanted a game for the whole of the premier league, you start in 1992 and the players generate as they did in the real world. how cool would it be playing a couple years then being able to buy a 17 year old shearer for peanuts. Imagine the players you could manage at your favourite clubs, trying to keep cantona from retiring. the players would start at the clubs they originally did.
Just one off of the the top of my head. Players going through a scoring drought just happen to find their form against your team. Has happened 11 times this season to my team. Some of the players were going through as much as 10 hours of not scoring only to find the net against my team. The best one was Theo Walcott who hadn't scored in 13 hours, but no problems scoring 4 against me in the CL final. Perhaps this kind of thing should be toned down a bit, just a thought.
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Any comments from the developers on this thread will be golden.
to be able to watch a player on his own in a game. Say if you go to attend a game to get a look at a player to buy or just to watch, to be able to have the camera fixed on him
Put news back in our 'inbox' instead of seperating it -i never know whats happening with the football world now cause of this
What an option to watch a match on TV, instead of getting that "Manager X was seen in stadium Y" message.
Use of agents for the manager and players. As a manager you can instruct your agent to look to secure deals for your favoured clubs or having to deal with agents of players for tapping up.
I haven't read all 40 odd pages so forgive me if I've repeated any suggestions here.
I think that the whole personality thing is a really good feature of the game and would ultimately like to see that expanded meaning that your actions can have long standing effects on what you can do in the game.
I'd like to see myself appearing as favored member of staff after taking the likes of Bristol Rovers to the Premier League - and possibly for this to be reflected with a rival side, such as Bristol City, hating me.
Much in the same way as modern managers take their coaching team with them when changing clubs I'd like to be able to do the same. This could provide opportunities to strengthen and weaken relationships with other members of staff. Similarly you could give your blessing to assistants taking over and your old club or taking a higher position elsewhere.
On a smaller note it would be nice to know how much compensation was paid for me when I take over elsewhere.
As far as transfers go, I can understand the complexities involved may stand in the way but offering players on loan as part of an overall transfer fee, ad similarly joint player deals would be a good idea.
On the loan side of things though I think a lot more could be done in actively encouraging players to go out to club X. At the moment it seems a bit strange that a decent player in my reserves consistently refuses to go on loan to a Championship side.
Oh, and sending/exchanging coaches to and from feeder clubs could be an option to help staff progress. Sending a 1st team coach out to Spain could give him knowledge of the Spanish game and maybe increase his technical coaching stats.
Similarly it could be an idea to share scouting information with your primary feeder club and help draw their attention to better players etc.
Another one, that I thought of is the ability to petition the board to clear your debt. I know it isn't directly linked to how you can manage the side but it really annoys me when I have a balance of something like £350m, am in debt by £20m and nothing is done to service the debt.
This video has really opened my eyes, the ideas i have posted and other people have posted all seem a bit 2D and i admit that i currently hate the 3D match engine but what CM are doing with it has opened a whole new list of ideas. http://gamereactor.co.uk/grtv/?id=4210 if you watch that video then the use of a free kick editor is a great new idea for FM, along with being able to see training being completed by your players using the 3D match engine. I think this video also shows how far ahead CM are with the 3D match engine.
Dont know if it has been mentioned but the option to loan a player back out to a club you sign them from.
For instance if i sign a 18 year old who is gettin the odd game for the club i want to sign him from, would be nice to give them the option have loaning him straight back, think Arsenal did this with Ramsey?
Another thing is what Liverpool have done with Leto's loan IRL, if he didnt play X amount of games for Olympiakos then they would have to pay a certain fee to Liverpool.
As a Milan fan I would like to see MilanLab be mentioned when managing milan and see its effect on prolonging players' careers and not be told by the board to only have three physios when the game at Milan starts with 7/8.
I would also like to see players decline at different rates based on individual attributes and club medical quality. I would also like to be told by my coaches and physios that a player has started to decline in tests such as VO2 max so that I can sell him before it becomes obvious to other clubs, and conversely that a older player is still in physically excellent shape.
At the moment every club feels the same, more effort should be made to recognise the unique characteristics of each club and different challenges of each league, pace of play, tactical emphasis etc
Also more reference should be made to previous seasons, previous players, previous trophies and managers etc, so that at the start of a new season, having won the world cup you dont get told that the fans are ''cautiously optomistic'' about your reign etc. Fans should reminisce about former favourites and great teams/managers comparing them to the current teametc