Wishlist: What you would like to see in future versions of the game. All 'list' ideas in here.

**surf** · 31-07-2008 00:38

I'd like to be able to subscribe to news of a national team, a club, a player or a league. I usually manage in England but since I'm Icelandic it would be handy to be able to receive news from the Icelandic national team, the league or my favorite club automatically. Perhaps you could have the option receiving important news only, medium or all stories.

Also, if you're a top manager, with say a national reputation, I'd like if you were asked once in a while, or not so often at all, about the performance of your favorite club or your national team, perhaps if the team is in a slump or just before an important match in a tournament. Maybe it's not the most important thing to add but I think it'd add a nice personal touch to the game.

**Swindon69** · 31-07-2008 08:01

On the information screen where it shows if the ground is being expanded I'd like it to show if the training grounds are being upgraded.

**Sorro** · 31-07-2008 12:46

I've got a suggestion for the future FM games, regarding the scouting.

The game doesn't have difficulty levels, and you can not directly choose which tasks should be in the game or not. However you can choose kind of indirectly, by letting your assistant handle the training, taking care of the team talks or even picking your team. I'd like to see the same thing in the scouting area of the game. One person (one of the scouts) should be hired as a head scout, and if you don't want to spend time dealing with the details of the scouting work you could simply draw the bigger picture, and leave the details to him.

Some options I'd like to see:

* Hire scouts? Yes/No
Choose whether or not the head scout can hire and fire scouts working under him. If you give him the option to do so you must set a maximum number of scouts and/or a total wage limit for him to work with.

* Scout next opposition? Yes/No
Simply a choice of whether one of the scouts should scout your next opponent.

* Talents vs established players for the starting XI
Maybe some kind of sliding bar, like in the team tactics, to say what type of players you'd like the scouts to search for.

* Locals vs players from all over the world
Again with the sliding bar. Do you want only domestic players, or do you want to look for exotic players from every little corner of the world. Or more likely: something in between.

The options should be very overhead and not detailed, that's kind of the point with the head scout, and then the head scout should work based on his skills and personality within the lines you draw for him.

What do you guys think?

**LutonNil** · 31-07-2008 14:40

More interaction with the Ass Man like getting a message saying a reserve is ready for first team football or when a player is training well.

Also if you need to get rid of a right back because you have 5 in the reserves you could ask his opinion about which one to sell, getting a message like "Player X is good but he is now 24 and not broken into the first team yet - we should let him go now before he gets unsettled"

Also I would like to see more manager stats like an average of games played, goals scored/conceded and number of players used in the first team per season

Also a list of managers a club has had over the course of the game - could be used in conjunction with a media message saying "Manager X will attempt to follow in the footsteps of Sir Alex Ferguson by taking over the reins at Man Utd - fans are hoping he will not be another Wilf McGuinness"

**Jonfun1980** · 31-07-2008 15:01

I would like to be able to put club and nations on a shortlist so you get all the news about them. So you can get info like they need a new manager etc into your inbox.

**profii** · 31-07-2008 15:30

I would like more transfer speculation from other clubs - you get the news articles going 'manager x (ie you) are looking at signing player y' when he is on your short list

and also you can see clubs that are interested on the players transfer page but this is cumbersome to see who perhaps your rivals are interested in signing

i would like something similar to the BBC gossip column that says these clubs are linked to these players (even if there was a degree of lying as in real life perhaps)

**LutonNil** · 31-07-2008 15:55

I also want to tell my Ass Man to rotate the players in the reserves to give them all match fitness for when I need them

**fashiondesign_guru** · 31-07-2008 18:48

Originally Posted by Barside

Your right it has been mentioned before & I will give the same answer as before.

It's Football Manager not Assistant Manager. I'm afriad this still has to be the most idiotic request on this thread, please people stop asking to be able to have active staff roles.

Actually I think the lightning bolts to indicate a heavy tackle idea might have been the most idiotic one yet.

why? and what makes you an authority to decide which idea is idiotic and which not? he's a consumer of the game and writes what he'd like to see. i'd like to see similar things as well. if you don't like the feature requested then don't add support and that's enough but it doesn't give you a right to bark at people..

as for the idea, i think roles of assistant manager and being promoted in the club management/board after seasons of success as manager are great ideas. An assistant manager could eventually be promoted to be a manager and/or get contract offers from somewhere else while he's an assistant manager, like Quiroz of ManU once coaching Real and now Portugal.

Just wait, I will add my wishes now.

**fashiondesign_guru** · 31-07-2008 19:52

there's no drama in this game. the game should be more REAL and have HUMAN TOUCH.

the board being all powerful almighty and always having the upper hand is so boring and unrealistic.

i start as an unknown manager so in the beginning i'm not in a position to demand a lot of things. at the end of the season, i win league, the cup and the champions league for a club who's never been able to see past the group stage of that tournament in their history and all i get is a praise. then i ask for more money, the board responds saying they're sick of me asking for money. that's not real. i should be more valuable than gold for them after winning so much for them.

the board shouldn't always have the upper hand. the board should always be under pressure as well. i win 50-60+ games back to back, all tournaments, fans hail me as a hero. i demand! the board fires me. life goes on as if nothing happened. fans agree with that, noone asks me anything or supports me. that's not real. the fans should protest the board and put them under pressure to support me and keep me in the club or they should threaten to abondon season tickets next season to protest... for example..

i should get offers! i never get offers. i should get offers even when i'm under contract just like chelsea courting ancelotti this past summer. the game should calculate my success level and personality type and should bring me more offers from rivals and bigger clubs worldwide offering more money and better terms as i succeed further, which should put the board under more pressure to whether improve my contract + budget and authority to be able to keep me at the club or decide to let me go. there should be more interaction and detailed negotiations regarding this with me having the upper hand if i'm succesful. the press should get involved. critics should get involved. my successor should be under constant pressure as well and players should be uneasy after i leave.

this really makes sense if i take a mid/low table turkish team and win turkish league, cup and champions league 2 seasons in a row winning all their matches. in reality, there would be a lot of clubs that would offer fortunes to snatch a manager that succesful. but in the game, i quit or get fired, and suddenly fans back the board and think they'd rather use that $ for a better manager, which is bull.

i should be able to change my level of happiness and my mood and it should be indicated there in my profile as well as in the news, which should affect the teams morale, the fans and cause rivals make offers to me, which should cause some trouble for the board.

also, there should be more in-depth interaction with the board regarding transfers, staff etc. after a season unbeaten in all competitions and triple success, i try to bring in a coach i want and a new asst manager. the club blocks the coach signing over and over and over until i fire 1-2 of my coaches. then i can't afford the assistant manager's salary because the board won't allow me to pay him that much. that's bull! i should be able to explain them how important he is, and i should be able to find funds for it while balancing my budget, perhaps by taking from something else. instead i quit to see what happens and noone asked me why or tried to stop me or protested, and i kept going on and on for months without getting any solid offers from solid clubs but one from some low table 2nd division team. that's really boring.

also for example, i want to sign that assistant manager and he wants 16K per week. board only allows me 10K. i should be able to negotiate something with that guy by offering wage raise every 12 months and/or x amount of signing fee. i mention that because i offered him 10K per month plus 500K signing fee and he still refused a 3 year contract where the signing fee makes his wage way more than what he wants anyway.

same with players. i should have more options when i negotiate clubs for players, like player exchanges, player + cash (both of which are always refused, even when i tried players like ronaldinho + deco in exchange for some unheard unskillful ****** player.

i should also be able to offer other benefits to players and clubs when i try to sign them. for example, a club from serie B should kill for my offer of $1 million cash and, say, 40% of next sale for their talented player instead of another serie B or very low level serie A club's offer for $3 million when that other club has no business in international competitions and i'm the holders of EC and team to watch worldwide. obviously in reality i'd have the upper hand since chances are that player will gain more market value in my team in time and will be sold for a lot more money than that petty cash and its former club will end up more cash than they dream. and if the have more talent like that coming up i will make a habit of repeating the same business with them.

again a first team key player status at a club like me should be considered important for a player who never gets first team football in AC Milan if i'm playing succesfully in EC as well. instead he snubs my team and my league with no room for such negotiation. and then i keep reading his cries over never playing for months and months and months and months after that. schmuck.

and my players should get offers! none of my players get offers. even when they win goldenboot. if succesful, they should be pursued by clubs even when they're under contract and that should also put me under pressure to be able to keep them. even when i list them for sale i can't ever sell my players. clubs will ask me howmuch i want and then withdraw any inquiry as soon as i mention something very reasonable. they should always try to negotiate with me.

i should be able to arrange a future transfer with payments starting at a future date. i should be able to agree with a club to sign their x player next summer with payments starting next summer or for whenever i negotiate.

the players should have personal problems, like girlfriend problems and i should be able to deal with them as well.

otherwise it gets very boring after at most 2 seasons as everything keeps repeating and there's no drama and depth.

**Zwarte Dood** · 01-08-2008 12:53

It would be nice to be able to set up some kind of a fictional player history for yourself as a manager. Then your reputation would be based upon this at the start of your manager career. You should be able to set up to 5 former teams, your position and depending on these teams your achievements (how many times you've won the league, cup, ...)would be taken into account as well. Your former teams, managers, fellow players could then add you to their favourite personnel and they could also appear in your favourites. Your former position could also be used for building relations with players in the same position in the team you're planning to manage. You could also start from an unknown player selecting teams from lower leagues...
Maybe more parts of the game may be influenced as well by this...Media items, disliked personnel and teams,...

To give an example:

Date of Birth: 6 october 1970
Former position: GK

1980 - 1988: FCV Dender
1988 - 1995: Club Brugge
1995 - 2005: Lazio

Favourite personnel: Leekens, Broos, Zoff, Erickson, Staelens, F. Van Der Elst, Okon, Di Canio, Ravanelli, Nesta, ...

One could say that this takes out the realism of the game, but then you could also say that being a manager yourself on that level is unrealistic as well

Maybe all of this has already been said, but I thought I had a wonderful idea and just wanted to share it with the world ;-)

**AndyKane67** · 01-08-2008 15:20

Changing expectations - For example, I am Celtic, and the board want Champions League last 16 football. However, my group consists of Barcelona, Ajax and Everton. I personally think UEFA Cup football would be more realistic, but it would not please the board if I achieved this lower aim. So why not have the board come to you at critical times - i.e. after the draw for the Champions League qualifiers or group stage and ask what you can achieve.

**arsenal4life** · 01-08-2008 15:40

i would like more player interaction such as encouraging players to take up citizenship, On editor to make leagues and countries, making the AI clubs more active, this is not for me but my younger brother plays the game a lot but he is not that good so what about different differcult setting so like easy, medium and hard

**worthy11** · 01-08-2008 15:58

more consitantsy in transfer's & loans
if you dont understand ill explain...
in my newcastle game i offered 18m for david bentley, it was rejected and i was told they dont want to sell him because he's a key player, fair enough, but then 2 week later he signs for man city for 12m, which is a third less of what i offered, so why was that accepted and not mine ?

in regards to loans:

i have often offered a loan deal for a player in the same league as me only to be reject because the club does not want to loan to a divisional rival, but days later i find the player is loaned to another club in the same league!!

eg: i offered a season long loan deal for jamie o'hara of spurs and it was turned down for the same division reason, but bolton and birmingham offered and their offered was both accepted, it seems strange i would be rejected because im in the same division yet the player goes to a club in the same league!!

**rougess** · 01-08-2008 16:03

Users should have the same stats as a manager's profile, that develop over time. This means that we could be involved in the training section, as i'm sure manager's are irl. If we could have the above history, list our position etc, we would be better at say, defence coaching. If we play several youngsters, or are their favourite personel, then the "working with youngsters" stat would improve. If we beat Chelsea with West Brom (deservedly, rather than by a penalty or bad decision) then tactical knowledge increases.

The manager's history could be made up like a club's, as well as highest purchase, longest time at club, etc. A highest victory, highest attendance, most league apps (eg who has played the most games for you), most league goals, league titles won, etc

Manager interaction should improve not only in what you can say (MON and Rafa about the Barry saga), but in terms of opinion. A larger scale is required, eg, bro's for life, friends, feels the two of you
could become friends, respects you, no opinion, friendly rivals, slightly jealous, fairly poor opinion, bitter rivals, etc

Deeply unsettled players should be able to buy out their last year of a contract, it's the new bosman

Club's should have a manager style "hall of fame". Similar to a visible reputation table

Youngsters at big clubs should be more willing to leave for first team football, eg when Bentley left Arsenal

What does everyone think? I know these are small changes but would add depth & realism.
Apologies if people have already suggested these, 3000 posts is too much to read!

**Hamenaglar** · 01-08-2008 17:23

Training individual attributes. For example I want my player to improve long shots, but not finishing or composure.

**Decalogy** · 01-08-2008 17:52

The possibilities for an international managers must be better!!!

*Take a look at how much friendlies itnernational teams are playing before the tournament and how much they do have in FM!
*There should be a pre-game questioning about match expectations for manager as well.

I very liked SAINTRIC_21 idea about resignation! I also would like to have it.

The next thing I do believe needs improvements is training. For me, it's such a boring at this moment as boring it may be. I can play without changing it for a years, and everything will be ok..

sick of that!

The main thing I would love to have in FM is to make managers more personal. I will give you an idea, but for further we ALL should think about carefully to make it as good, as it can be. SO....

It is known that each manager has his charachter and of course it affect to the team, board room, staff, training, media, fans, other managers and players... But in FM managers are unpersonal...

I mean, there could be aggressive managers who offense media, are very strict to the players, demandfull and so on... there also could be a peaceful managers, very unagressive from the outside, there can be managers with very great humor, there can be serious managers, there can also be modest manager... Then FM would be very much colorful!!!

I understand that it is very hard to plan, but it would pay off. This managers charachteristic needs improvement on training (for example, I very liked the feature in Total Club manager that during a training there are some options... for example there is a text: "J. Terry tried long ball and the ball hitted your head", and you have optional moves, what to do: shot the ball on him, make a dummy smile, give him training 30 minutes more and so on...), media, relationships with the board staff, team talks, individual talks and so on...

Please give me to know, what do you think about it...

**bridport_pouncer** · 01-08-2008 18:43

Originally Posted by coldkohmew

A converter to convert games from 07 to 08,etc...

What a brilliant idea !

Would be so difficult to make happen though.

**addicted86** · 01-08-2008 19:07

i would like to see player interaction and training more inter-linked. for example, if a player is unhappy with his training schedule, he should tell you why, so then you could come up with an acceptable solution. player interaction should be much more personal and not conducted through the media.

also, if a player is unhappy about not being in the team, you could tell him, for example, that his passing wasnt good enough to be a first choice midfielder. this would have the effect of more player-specific training programs, and also developing a more in-depth player/manager relationship.

also, you should be able to tell a fringe player at the start of the season (e.g. the reserve goalkeeper) that although he is not first choice he will play in the Carling Cup or some other equivalent competition. this would more easily define his squad role and enable him to

a) request a loan or a transfer immeadiately if he wants regular football
b) trust your judgment and hope he can develop, with a view to a loan deal later in the season
c) make him even more determined (aided by his manager's advice and specific training) to improve and break in to the first team

on a related note, i hate it when you have a player it is impossible to offload. this tends to present itself in two forms:

1) a quality young player is on the fringe of the first team squad, and i want to loan him out; why are no clubs interested in him? (even when i offer to clubs and click the "available for loan option" i still have this problem)
2) an older/less skilful player is rotting in the reserves and i cant even give him away for free. it really annoys me some of the reasons the AI gives when clubs are interested and wont make a bid, like "unable to meet wage demands", "player unlikely to be interested".... er, if you make the effort to sign him he might want to come, why not at least try?

**addicted86** · 01-08-2008 19:30

sorry for the double post. someone earlier mentioned a more in-depth team talk and the ability to interact with your players and the assistant manager during a match. great idea.

also, rather than the click fest that is the media interaction, which asks the same questions over and over, revamp it:

my idea: two press conferences per match, one pre match, one post match. talk about anything you like, as it could be combined with the current player interaction system via a drop down menu (with a few minor alterations)

so in theory, these press conferences could be use to discuss the opposition, your team/player form, potential transfer targets, injuries etc. Just like a real press conference, which you could dictate. this would provide a much more interesting feature

this could be extented slightly; say the AI asks one question per press conference.

example: AI asks: "why do you think player A has been so poor recently?" rather than just pressing "no comment" all the time, maybe this could be replaced with a "deflect question" option, in which you could state, for example, that you were pleased with the way your midfield played, or that morale was high at the club, or some random comment which could conceivably be an unlimited amount of options.

**LutonNil** · 01-08-2008 22:35

I'd like to be able to give instructions to subs before they go on the pitch

Also I've probably said it before but I want realistic transfer values for my first team players - I'm in League 2 and my 23 year old striker who scored 44 goals last season is worth 26k and all my reserve strikers who aren't good enough for a regular place are worth 250-275k ?????

**onyxx** · 02-08-2008 00:19

Realtime contract talks would be usefull so the manager can negotiate directly with the player and his agent.

**lavafire** · 02-08-2008 11:12

Originally Posted by fashiondesign_guru

there's no drama in this game. the game should be more REAL and have HUMAN TOUCH.

the board being all powerful almighty and always having the upper hand is so boring and unrealistic.

i start as an unknown manager so in the beginning i'm not in a position to demand a lot of things. at the end of the season, i win league, the cup and the champions league for a club who's never been able to see past the group stage of that tournament in their history and all i get is a praise. then i ask for more money, the board responds saying they're sick of me asking for money. that's not real. i should be more valuable than gold for them after winning so much for them.

the board shouldn't always have the upper hand. the board should always be under pressure as well. i win 50-60+ games back to back, all tournaments, fans hail me as a hero. i demand! the board fires me. life goes on as if nothing happened. fans agree with that, noone asks me anything or supports me. that's not real. the fans should protest the board and put them under pressure to support me and keep me in the club or they should threaten to abondon season tickets next season to protest... for example..

i should get offers! i never get offers. i should get offers even when i'm under contract just like chelsea courting ancelotti this past summer. the game should calculate my success level and personality type and should bring me more offers from rivals and bigger clubs worldwide offering more money and better terms as i succeed further, which should put the board under more pressure to whether improve my contract + budget and authority to be able to keep me at the club or decide to let me go. there should be more interaction and detailed negotiations regarding this with me having the upper hand if i'm succesful. the press should get involved. critics should get involved. my successor should be under constant pressure as well and players should be uneasy after i leave.

this really makes sense if i take a mid/low table turkish team and win turkish league, cup and champions league 2 seasons in a row winning all their matches. in reality, there would be a lot of clubs that would offer fortunes to snatch a manager that succesful. but in the game, i quit or get fired, and suddenly fans back the board and think they'd rather use that $ for a better manager, which is bull.

i should be able to change my level of happiness and my mood and it should be indicated there in my profile as well as in the news, which should affect the teams morale, the fans and cause rivals make offers to me, which should cause some trouble for the board.

also, there should be more in-depth interaction with the board regarding transfers, staff etc. after a season unbeaten in all competitions and triple success, i try to bring in a coach i want and a new asst manager. the club blocks the coach signing over and over and over until i fire 1-2 of my coaches. then i can't afford the assistant manager's salary because the board won't allow me to pay him that much. that's bull! i should be able to explain them how important he is, and i should be able to find funds for it while balancing my budget, perhaps by taking from something else. instead i quit to see what happens and noone asked me why or tried to stop me or protested, and i kept going on and on for months without getting any solid offers from solid clubs but one from some low table 2nd division team. that's really boring.

also for example, i want to sign that assistant manager and he wants 16K per week. board only allows me 10K. i should be able to negotiate something with that guy by offering wage raise every 12 months and/or x amount of signing fee. i mention that because i offered him 10K per month plus 500K signing fee and he still refused a 3 year contract where the signing fee makes his wage way more than what he wants anyway.

same with players. i should have more options when i negotiate clubs for players, like player exchanges, player + cash (both of which are always refused, even when i tried players like ronaldinho + deco in exchange for some unheard unskillful ****** player.

i should also be able to offer other benefits to players and clubs when i try to sign them. for example, a club from serie B should kill for my offer of $1 million cash and, say, 40% of next sale for their talented player instead of another serie B or very low level serie A club's offer for $3 million when that other club has no business in international competitions and i'm the holders of EC and team to watch worldwide. obviously in reality i'd have the upper hand since chances are that player will gain more market value in my team in time and will be sold for a lot more money than that petty cash and its former club will end up more cash than they dream. and if the have more talent like that coming up i will make a habit of repeating the same business with them.

again a first team key player status at a club like me should be considered important for a player who never gets first team football in AC Milan if i'm playing succesfully in EC as well. instead he snubs my team and my league with no room for such negotiation. and then i keep reading his cries over never playing for months and months and months and months after that. schmuck.

and my players should get offers! none of my players get offers. even when they win goldenboot. if succesful, they should be pursued by clubs even when they're under contract and that should also put me under pressure to be able to keep them. even when i list them for sale i can't ever sell my players. clubs will ask me howmuch i want and then withdraw any inquiry as soon as i mention something very reasonable. they should always try to negotiate with me.

i should be able to arrange a future transfer with payments starting at a future date. i should be able to agree with a club to sign their x player next summer with payments starting next summer or for whenever i negotiate.

the players should have personal problems, like girlfriend problems and i should be able to deal with them as well.

otherwise it gets very boring after at most 2 seasons as everything keeps repeating and there's no drama and depth.

I totally agree with this. Maybe SI could make it more interesting by expanding and working on the media functions. Players will flame rival clubs and players , and we managers could also join in the flaming and such. This will also help to take away some of the montonous repeative pressing of spacebar and watching unrelated news. We should also be able to interact more with the assistant manager, and maybe add in in-match antics. We could maybe do a Jose Mourinho and rile the opposing fans after the team scores.

**SouthgatesRedWhiteArmy** · 02-08-2008 18:17

The abililty to persuade players who aren't exactly interested in joining your club to come along. Have this before Contract talks for those who arent interested.... Incentives could be offered such as house, car, abililty to move the players family over (Although this could be just used for players under 20, if there from abroad.)

Things like that, because if a team has the money then they can go after anyone they want, its just all about how the manager sells the club and its ambitions to the player that interests the player. Giving the incentives as stated above can only sweeten the deal.

**scrawney** · 02-08-2008 19:18

I'd like to see an option to add leagues in as you play, I'm always seeing news about teams from Italy or Germany and I can't see them in action because I have the league switched off. All it'd take would be making up a few league tables and cup results and would open up new job oppurtunities while adding playabilty without having to start afresh.

**cwxstorm** · 04-08-2008 00:08

In a nutshell, more different media circumstances and far far less repetition. If ive told the media i am not interested in a player they should accept this and so on.

**LutonNil** · 04-08-2008 03:13

Why don't my older players take their coaching badges anymore - I'd like to offer my captain who has played over 700 games for me a coaching role

**jod123** · 04-08-2008 03:17

Originally Posted by LutonNil

Why don't my older players take their coaching badges anymore - I'd like to offer my captain who has played over 700 games for me a coaching role

They do. I got Ryan Giggs as coach of Man United when he retired in one save. I think you need to regularly say that they would make a good coach. I did this to Van der Sar and Scholes who previously said that they were definitely not going to stay in the game once they retire and then they both changed to considering staying in the game. The more you say they will be a good coach the more likely they will become one.

**soupaman** · 04-08-2008 04:18

I really like the idea of not just working your way through the leagues but working your way throuh the club levels as well (ie. Under 18's to reserves to seniors).

To do this certain criteria would need to be implemented for human managers: Coaching stats and playing histories.

Your playing history would essentially be what you assign yourself, eg. Barnsley 1982-86, 48 appearances, 3 goals, Wrexham 87-91, 22 apps, 6 goals
These would determine your starting rep, if you list no clubs it would be unknown, if you list Man Utd and Chelsea over 10 years averaging 25+ apps it may be world class. This would increase the realism and give you not only a background but a network of preferable clubs.

You could then apply/assign yourself for roles that you like the look of, working your way through the ranks. By coachingthe under 18's or reserves you would be responsible for developing players in certain positions, ensuring they are match fit and basically satisfying and updating the head manager on their progress. Maybe once a month you could nominate some players you feel are deserving of a run at the next level or might benefit from a loan. This would also build relationships between you and these players you regularly give key roles or push for senior selection to, meaning that when you do achieve a senior management position they would be keen to join you. You may also be allowed to hire a small part-time assistant network, or even suggest that signing a certain experienced CB as a strictly reserves player would be beneficial for the young players development.

This would add another dimension to the game and whils hard to implement would give the player much more variety in the game style he could use.

9 · 04-08-2008 11:34

Not that it would make any real difference to the game but when i'm managing abroad sometimes for a smaller club i'm quite intrigued if i don't know already where they are situated geographically.
Not sure where it could be placed but i would like a VERY UNDETAILED map of the particular country with i dot just showing where the particular club is situated and you could see where that is in comparison to other clubs

**S2008** · 04-08-2008 11:37

Editable Prize money and TV revenue for extra flexibilty with the Data Editor

**Professor Muzkak** · 04-08-2008 14:09

To start with I would like to sorry about posting a not really new thread but due to a large numbers of threads with same topic and huge number of bulk messages in them, I couldn't find a better place to show my thoughts about the new up-and-coming version of my most preferred game ever.

First, I would really really love to have a "shout" option for in-match. I know that there is a lot of arguments over it but i'll stand for the ones for it. I still remember everytime playing in a big match and having an important player playing badly or not following my instructions and I just want to shout to him something like: "Get your head to the game" or "Quit playing around and follow my instruction". Sometime it would be to late to wait for haft-time team talk or full-time.

Talking about team talk, I would like it to be much more in-depth. And when I say 'much more' I mean 'much more'. I think SI don't really focus on them but it is truly a very important aspect of the game for me and many others. With all the very limit option with stay the same in mostly every situation it is hard to use for a long period of time like a couple of years. I've tried playing for 15 years consecutively and these team talk options really get to annoy me. In some important match which the team gets to play for the first time of their history or maybe a biggest game in the year or even a derby game should impose some situational options such as: "We have come this far, let's show them who we are" or "Just one more match, let's do it" for smaller teams, and "We are suppose to be champs, now let's do it the champs way", "Last year we won it, this year there should be no different" etc. etc. for bigger teams.

A confident system between the players and the manager. I know FM08 have some of this feature already such as the players like or dislike the manager and will not trust the manager if he/she is relatively unknown or unexperienced. But it is usually for longtime period. What about something short time period. I've tried Fifa Manager and saw that they have a feature such as player talk to improve their confident and trust. It is actually very nice. If SI can include this feature along with their player interactions, it would be a great improvement.

Sorry for the long thread but these are only a few of my wish about the new FM09... I would like to add many more as well but can't think them out all at the moment. Maybe will do later after playing a few more hour. Plz feel free to comment or add more of your ideas into this thread..

**Neji** · 04-08-2008 15:33

Well, I would say that these ideas are way too late for FM09! The in match shouting is something thats been mentioned before but I'm not convinced it would make that much of a difference, even IRL. It would be nice to beable to give them a little boost in match and would be nice if it could also have negative affects. Say you tell the player to work harder, he may get annoyed and it would affect his performance.

Team talks are a well known area of the game, and most everyone wants more and more options. I'm expecting some sort of an overhaul in FM09.

I think that the current system for confidence between managers and players is good enough already. It's not obvious, and thats the way it should be. I would like to be able to take to players though, like a meeting with them or such.

**Gentleman** · 04-08-2008 15:54

Lots of repetitive request and suggestions, but what's to expect from a thread this long, which has been started back in 2005? I've only read through them since the release of the last FM (08) and even then it's a lost cause to even remember what everyone suggested already.

I don't have many hopes of these suggestions being put in FM09, but at least it's a decent list of preferred possibilities. Perhaps SI notices them and thinks: 'Hey, that's a good idea. Perhaps we can ever implement that in a future version', that would make me happy enough, even though it may take a while.

And hey ... at least I'm in time for FM2010 with this post ;-)

Now, since I'm on it anyway, a couple of suggestions from me:

1. Chairman statistics.

We used to have statistics for a chairman back in CM.
You could see how much you can test his patience, how fast he would sack you for not getting to your achievements fast enough. Or how easy he would give you pocket money to spend on new players, or what his level of ambition is. Is he hoping I do well in the Blue Square South, or is he trying to motivate me to take the team to a higher level? Is he able to support me with money when I tell him I really need that player in order to progress to a higher league, or will he rather intervene and accept offers for good players since he's a debt-ridden chairman because he already invested all of his money in the club and we're still not up to a healthy balance?

Where did that go? And how do we get it back?
If you argue that the board is now responsible for that, please give me statistics for the board then. It's still as measurable as a chairman, isn't it?

Of course, this is also related to all the people complaining how, despite being rich, the chairman still intervenes with their transfers. So in order to pull this off, the behaviour of the chairman/board also has to be related to the financial position.

2. Suggestions for a club to affiliate with.

You should be able to suggest your own ideas of what a good parent/feeder club would be. This should then be included in the list of feeder/parent clubs they offer you (that is, if they can actually agree with the other club). Of course, the board can always reject your suggestions (i.e. the board thinks the other club is your fierce rival, or may damage the image of the club - like ADO Den Haag), but at least it gives you some influence on which club to approach.
And well, it also helps when you can actually get a club your players actually want to go to. So far I have 5 different feeder clubs but none of my players want to go there due to them being on such a low level. Then, what's the use of having them good prospects in my U-18 and Reserves, if I can't get myself a feeder club to send them to in order to let them get some first team experiences?

3. Subs warming up.

Initially not my idea, but only after reading about it, I realized it has some nice features.
Let subs start off with e.g. 80%, then warming up increases the stamina to 100%. No warming up means the player has to build up from 80% to 100% on the field itself, usually meaning he moves a little awkward, or slow until he is fully warmed up - although he should also never reach 100%, since he's actually tiring himself out to get himself forcefully warmed up by chasing after fully warmed up players - that must tire someone out. He is then also more prone to injury, perhaps a factor 1.25 or something, for not warming up properly.
The same thing happens whenever someone gets injured and all of a sudden someone has to substitute him.

4. Managing a national team - lack of players.

I get asked for e.g. the national team of Estonia, of which I didn't load all players at the beginning. So when I accepted the offer, I had to deal with the fact that I had a choice of 2 decent left defenders, aside from the 3 really crappy people who haven't even picked up by a club yet.
There should be an option to load all players from that nation or to load a league - on the spot.
The only option now is to load a whole bunch of countries/leagues from the start in case you might ever get asked for their national team, which causes the game to run a lot slower after a couple of seasons.
Not to mention that, if I want to 'load all players from a nation', I have to click them one by one from a dropdown box. Now, surely you have people who actually specialize in trying to make a proper GUI, so why hasn't it been taken into account that, if you want to load 20 nations, you have to click the same dropdown box 20 times and do 20 times the scrolling if you have bad luck and go for South-Africa, Paraguay and so on.

5. The Manager.

Why do we get to see all the stats for other managers, except those for yourself? Instead, we get to see how 'loyal' you are, yet whenever I decline the role of becoming the manager of another club, I don't get any points there. It would also be nice to see what a manager's ambition is; does he want to stay there for a couple of years and build on the team (e.g. Hiddink for Russia), does he have a dream to manage a particular club other than his favorites or does he want to become a national coach?

There's plenty to improve, like how easy you adapt to other languages. I noticed how I learned to speak fluent Estonian after a year, guess that means my adaptability might be a tad high, especially when I only have played 10 games with the national team, as opposed to players who have played for my regular team for a whole year, yet still have trouble with the language.

Also, what to do with your money? I like the idea of buying/creating a club with that, but how many real managers do that? Perhaps you can buy a house in a different country, in order to learn the language there, or go on a vacation to a country you're interested in managing. Or perhaps follow a crash course for actually being allowed to manage a nation or international club (if I recall correctly, Martin Jol didn't have the necessary papers to become the manager of a particular Dutch club; there might be more of such issues). Or simply follow a language course if you want to try to manage a particular nation - surely the people there would be pleased if they hear you're trying to learn the language in order to become a manager there. Might even be a nifty news-post ;-)

6. Recommendations & Training update from Youth Coach/Ass. Man.

Honestly, I don't give a crap whoever became man of the match in my Under-19s. What I do give a crap about is my Assistant Manager/Youth Coach to watch these games and point out to me who has significantly improved over time, so much that he might qualify for a spot in the first string.
Since I don't manage that team, I generally don't know much about them unless my Ass. Man. / Youth Coach tells me whoever he thinks is good enough to play for my first string. I mean, there's a reason I put someone in charge for that team - so that I don't have to spend my time watching and following them.
Hell, it would already be an improvement if the Ass. Man. / Youth Coach tells me that a particular player has suddenly progressed more than expected in the past xx months, which makes him a hot prospect instead of a decent youngster by now.

I hear you say: 'But the Ass. Man. tells you every month who has trained well!'
True that. But why, whenever I check out the player, I don't see any improvements on his sheet? Moreover, usually I see red arrows rather than green ones, after hearing my Ass. Man. telling me he trained well. Then, the attribute graph, also doesn't show any progress. So I'll still have to wait a few weeks to a month before those training improvements are actually visible.
But that's not all! No, sir, because when above is pretty useless, you haven't heard about the people who 'didn't play well. 9 out of 10 the players mentioned there are either injured, or have just gotten back from an injury. Like hell they'd trained better than average in the past month.

7. Training facilities improvement.

Perhaps a little more variety in the means of training facilities would be nice. What exactly did they improve? The dressing room got a new color? They finally have a fitness room rather than the 2-person closet they had to share? Did they fix the net of the goal, so the players don't have to climb the stands in order to get the ball after the keeper let it through? Or did they buy you shoes with more grip with which you seem to turn better when playing on your own grass?
It would be nice if you could pick a few options as to what you wish to improve.
An extra spot for a youth coach when you improve your youth facilities would be an idea as well.

And when talking about Training Facilities, it would be nice if I can actually see somewhere when the last time was when I last bugged them for it, or that they're already looking into it. Now I have to make notes of them and make a specific category for it, so I won't bug them too much when I haven't player for a few days and think I haven't asked them yet. It got me fired quite a few times because I simply asked them one time too many to upgrade my facilities while they already turned me down a week ago.
Of course the note-system works well for that, but come on ... I don't have to make notes to keep track of that, do I? Not when the 'Board Room' has so much empty space that it wouldn't hurt to have another entry along the lines of 'After being asked so recently about the possibility to upgrade the Youth Facilities, the board are unwilling to discuss the matter at this time.'
I mean, the entire 'Board Room' generally takes up only half a screen, it wouldn't hurt to add that particular information there.

8. Reputation

Why, oh, why, does it seem to me that reputations of players are actually decreasing when they age? It's not like a Maradona stops having a worldwide reputation if he reaches 40. People still know him, no matter whether he still plays football or stopped playing and became a coach.
Another example, Ruud Gullit - wonderful player when he was still playing and lots of people all over the world still know him from the good ol' days. Then he became a coach and failed miserably in everything he did. Does that justify him for having a local reputation?
If anything, it might be worthwhile seperating 'Player reputation' and 'Non-player reputation', whereas the latter can decrease based on what he does as a coach/manager.

There's a lot about reputation in general which should be improved too. Simply think of the fact that, like with a lower league club in England with a low reputation, you cannot hire more coaches than when you started with, despite your club having been promoted 4 times already. Imagine how that sucks if you're still having to deal with the fact that you're allowed to have 1 single coach to train your players.

Also, how the hell do scouts or coaches get a better reputation? Certainly not because the club progressed to higher leagues. And also not because their scouted players have developed from 1-star BSP players into 6 star-league 1 players. And also not because they found me a player to sign on a free transfer who propelled me into a higher league all by himself. So ... exactly, how?
And while I'm at it ... it would be nice to see which players you have actually signed after having found them because the scout point him out to you. That should give you an idea of how well a scout performs for you, or in a particular area. Based on that, one might be able to determine how good a scout really is and upgrade his reputation. Of course, it all depends on how well he understands how the players fit in your team - no use recommending a 28 year old Thierry Henry to a team in the League 2, because they wouldn't even dream of being able to buy him, but recommending a player good enough of playing in League 2 as a decent player, when you're in League 1 is also not really doing wonders to up your reputation.

Oh, wait, I'm still not done. It would be nice to implement a sort of memory of how often you have actually surpassed the club's expectations. If you have promoted Hayes & Yeading from the BSP all the way up to the Championship in a 'mere' 10 years, it would be more realistic to give the manager a statue rather than sack him if he relegates back to League 1. After all, you do have a reputation in the club as a miracle-manager by then.
If I were a chairman, I'd meet up with the manager and ask him what went wrong and what I, as a chairman, could do to help him back to the Championship. I'd offer him the option between more transfer money, higher wages, a new stadium or better training facilities, or something like that.
Or give the man that statue, of course.

9. Training specification.

It is nice to see how in the Training Attributes all kind of attributes are grouped in terms of categories. For instance: Stamina, Strength and Work Rate are grouped under 'Strength'. Why not make it possible to apply percentages/weight to these 3 as well? That way you can try to improve your stamina (cardio-training) rather than train your strength (muscle-training).
The same could go for Ball Control. You don't need someone who has an 18 for Technique to train that again, but when he has a 2 for Heading, you can't make a difference. That's frustrating, since you see the Dribbling going up to 19, but the Heading to 3, after a year.
Surely my world-class coaches can help that guy to put his head to the ball a bit better without letting him dribble more?

10. "He's the 6th best defender in your squad."

Great! Now I know he's definitely not the best defender. But wait ... who are the other 5 then? The only way I get to know this now is to check all players who are able to play that position and see if they also have a ranking (which isn't often, seeing how most of them are usually fairly evenly matched with my best defender). If you tell me he's the 6th best, at least tell me which players are better then. Perhaps a list of the 2 people who are better and the 2 people who are slightly worse than him would be helpful already.

Also, he takes into account everyone who's ever played on that position on an odd day. If a player plays at his best as a LM and is also able to play LWB and LB, but also - on an odd day if nobody's around - as a competent RB, then I don't want him to be included in that! Surely he's a better player overall, but if he excels as a LM, he usually doesn't as a RB, so no use trying to tell me that he's better than the full-back who's a bit less quality, but nevertheless does excel in that position

That's almost as telling me that striker Ruud van Nistelrooij is my best defender because he substituted for an injured defender once in a friendly. I don't doubt he's my best player on the field and he's definitely my best striker, but no way he's my best defender - no matter how lousy my competition or my club is.

Perhaps a good idea would be to be able to select a sort of 'priority list' in the position screen, so you can point out what you consider his first and foremost position, followed by the position(s) you would like him to take on when he won't be getting the first position, in the form of a priority list.

11. Talking to my players.

I know it happens a lot in the old Cycling world, where you communicated with your cyclists by commenting to the media and they then reacting to that, rather than communicating directly with each other. But this is football. If you're spending so much time on the same training field and shouting at all of them, or individually, I'm sure that a manager can actually tell a player something.

So ... why can I train a player, sit next to him on the bench during games, but can I only tell him that he plays like crap or played a marvelous game when I see a microphone for a TV-station or radio-station?
I know I'm introverted, but I'm definitely not that shy that I have to speak to a tv-reporter in order to criticize a player I train on a daily base.

But complimenting/critisizing isn't the only thing you'd generally do to your players and SI already knows that because we already have the option 'Rest a player for a few weeks' in the player options (which tends to be 'in order to get him fit for later games' in the press). But an extension to these would be to tell him why you reject a transfer offer from a big club, or why you're putting him on the transfer list, or even why you're not playing him. Currently we have the options 'I'm the boss!' or 'You're a squad player, someone else is doing a better job' and 'You're a backup player, be patient', which is nice.
Then again, where is the option 'You're not ready for first team football yet' or even a 'You missed training TWICE in the previous week, why the hell would I let you on the team?'
In short, there are a few missing options there.

But coming back to the transfers, I've seen a media-comment from me (despite me not clicking anything like that, I only clicked 'reject offer') that I've rejected a transfer offer because I believed that the player should wait a few years and gain more experience before going to a bigger club.

That's the spirit, people! This is what I look for, with the only exception - let me actually select that option, rather than give me the options 'Reject' and 'Accept' and hoping that the press makes something of it. It's not so hard to change that string to something one would actually say to the press.

12. Unrealistic potential.

I really want to see a FM where ADO Den Haag doesn't have the potential ability to play Champions League or attract star players in only a few years, because that's just sheer ridiculous. They have a high, though bad reputation, so that should be taken into account.
After only a few years they play better than the notorious 'top 3', while IRL they should be having trouble getting promoted or not demoted.

Of course, things can take a thing for the worse, look at AZ which went from title challenger to relegation candidate IRL, or Ajax having major troubles in scoring, but those are exceptions. And usually don't last longer than one or a few seasons before they get back up and start performing again (in the case of both mentioned clubs, that would be about now). But hearing about Manchester United relegating, how realistic can that be?

13. Mentor / Pupil.

I think it's great to see this relationship, but I feel that I would actually want to see any feedback on how things are going. An experienced player who gets to tutor a younger player should actually tell me what he noticed about the kid. For instance:

- He excels in speed, but doesn't seem to be able to bring the ball along when running. But after teaching him for the past 2 months, he managed to learn the kid to move the ball to his right foot before attempting a dribble.
Result: dribbling moved up with 3 points.
Result 2: Learned a new move: 'Move the ball to right foot before attempting a dribble'.

Or perhaps something along the line of:

- The temperamental youngster seems to have calmed down a lot and view things more professional. I also tried to learn him to stay back at all times and not dive into tackles, but he seems too eager to play and still goes forward whenever possible and is still diving into tackles.
Result: Personality change from Temperamental to Fairly Professional.
Result 2: He still has the moves 'Dives into tackles' and 'Goes forward whenever possible'.

This sounds a lot more realistic, because honestly, this is how a Mentor should be monitoring a pupil.

And while I'm at it, why is my 30 year old experienced midfielder not allowed to tutor my 20 year old hot prospect who is currently playing for the first team? It's not like he already knows everything after playing for my first team, no matter how talented he may be.

14. Offside.

Offside is a good thing. Really. Except when the linesman starts flagging for an offside of someone standing at the corner flag, when you're shooting on target, in front of the goal - and the goal gets dismissed for offside.
Also, if I am not mistaken, whenever someone from the opposite team touches the ball before it arrives to your teammate, the offside-rule doesn't count anymore. I'm no expert, but but seeing how older FMs had trouble with the offside rule as well, please review the rules for offside again.

15. Proper explanations.

People before me have already pointed it out several times, especially one - but honestly, why is it so hard to write down what things do? Previously mentioned examples like 'How does width work, is it the willingness of players to pass through wide areas or is it just the way players stand on the pitch? I know it's the latter because I've watched hundreds or thousands of matches but is it obvious to new players?', but most and foremost the fact that the manager gets a salary.

I believe 90-95% of the people on this forum don't know that the amount of salary has a lineair relation to how patient the board is before sacking you, otherwise people wouldn't be thinking up the most ridiculous ideas on how to use that artificial money. Hell, even I think it's better to use it for anything else but the patience of the board.

As stated in #1, re-introduce the numbers for the chairman (or board), that would help a lot already. If you then still want to associate the manager's salary with the patience of the board, it could actually be made visible as to how far down you are. Because honestly, the 'confidence' doesn't always reflect reality.
My 'long term expectations' in the Dutch league are to 'Finish just behind the top teams', which generally means a 4th or 5th place + playing in Europe. But due to the poorly executed 'Playoffs for EL', I get a response like: 'You only qualified for the UEFA cup through participation' - which then means they're disappointed in me.
Despite finishing 2nd.

16. Knowledge of countries.

I'm constantly surprised what kind of knowledge people have, especially me as a manager. Not only is the default knowledge pretty odd, but it also happens that further development is flaky. For instance, I was manager of the national team of Estonia for 1.5 years. I speak the language fluently by now, which should indicate that I had some bonding with the team, especially since I also decided to manage the U-21 and U-19 teams. Well, good for me, since I got fairly good results with all teams.
Then I resigned and signed up for national manager of Ghana. I didn't look that closely, but after 2 months it seems that all the knowledge I built up in the 1.5 years I was manager of Estonia, seem to have disappeared. I think that's fairly strange, since I should still have 1.5 years of knowledge of something - stats of players, scouting for new talent to put into the U-19, or to move them up to the U-21 or even to the senior team.
Why am I suddenly suffering from amnesia, while still speaking the language?

17. Might have problems with injuries.

When I check the Coach Report of a player, I see them commenting at 'weaknesses' about how the player is someone who might have problems with injuries. Why would a coach/ass. man. comment on that as a 'weakness'? That would be something a physio should be saying.

But to contemplate a bit on that, wouldn't a physio rather be saying something along the lines of:
- Player X is prone to injury, you cannot do anything about that (e.g. Robben)
- Player Y is a gifted player, but due to that he seems to receive stronger tackles, which leaves him more often injured than playing. You should try to focus a bit more on strength training (e.g. Afellay)
- Player Z has problems with his physical. He cannot play the full 90 minutes anymore, or he'll start getting serious injuries (e.g. Kluivert)

18. Team talk

Perhaps I don't need to state this anymore, but this part of the game hasn't been improved since old times. In fact, things have turned so that people actually start being cautious because team talk just happens to be dangerous.
You're up 1-0 against a club 3 leagues lower than your club and you get to half-time. Of course, a 1-0 is a good result, since you're winning. Unfortunately, a 1-0 against a club 3 leagues down isn't exactly a feat you can praise your players for. So, generally, you tend to say 'Disappointed' (especially since 'Encourage' is more often than not unavailable). This results in your players getting downhearted because they believe they were winning - which results in your team being totally overrun by a club which shouldn't even be trying to get out of their own half.

Problem 1: Of course you are winning. But as said before numerous times, the game doesn't take into account against which game you are winning. Reputation doesn't matter, which means that a 2-0 win against a team 3 leagues down is a better result than a 1-1 draw against a team 3 leagues higher than you with a reputation you can only dream about.
If at half time my Sheffield Wednesday team is on a 0-1 loss against Liverpool and I tell my team I am pleased with the fact that they're holding up, my players are supposed to be going onto the field with smiles which should hurt, if they weren't that happy. Not to mention that they will be trying to keep up the way they're currently playing.
If at half time my Sheffield Wednesday team is on a 1-0 win against Hayes & Yeading in the BSP and I tell them I'm disappointed they're only winning with a 1-0 margin, they should be getting all fired up. And definitely not sulk and let themselves get overrun by a bunch of cowboys who've never even seen a ball up close.

Problem 2: Your players respond to the team talk, but as said in the game/manual/whatever, you shouldn't be saying the same thing over and over. Although I agree with that (if a coach tells me over and over that we should be doing better, I would get tired of it as well) it doesn't mean that after half a season they don't respond to anything I say anymore, unless I pick the most extreme ones.
At least their 'memory' of how often I have said something should be reset at the beginning of the year, because otherwise they never respond to my team talks anymore.

...

Okay. That was that.

Now it's only waiting for me to see how many of the above suggestions have already been integrated in FM09, which would be an indication of SI acknowledging the above problems.

Oh. By the way. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to make a different thread instead of continuing with a 4 year old thread which contains ideas for improving an obsolete version? Or perhaps a first post which lists the most mentioned issues or something, so people don't keep mentioning them simply because they don't want to dig through the exisitng 30 (!!) pages with 100 posts each?

**Ter** · 04-08-2008 16:24

Gentleman - The Wishlist thread was started so that we didn't have several "My ideas for FMxx" threads as at one point there were 12 of them on the front page alone. Huge lists don't promote organised discussion and it's very hard to keep track of what is going on in them. We do look over the wishlist thread when it's coming to the time to discuss ideas for our next game though as well as the other idea topics that we've taken an interest in.

It's much better and I personally prefer a single topic about a particular idea where that idea or area alone can be discussed and other users can give their opinions and add to the discussion.

**dankrzyz** · 04-08-2008 16:54

A few recent comments that really jump out to me as interesting and/or great additions:

When bidding for a player, having some indication of the criteria for a player to get a work permit.
Perhaps also a percentage chance displayed if it is touch and go if requirements are not quite met.

Your assistants give you an estimate on if that player might be interested in joining the team and how much he might ask for in wages. This could be another one of those bits of information. Just a guide.

Number of coaches/scouts, etc - it seems silly that the board actually sets a limit on this - surely we should have our wage budget, and choose to spend it accordingly?

Good point that can provide some flexibility and tough decision-making for a manager.

i start as an unknown manager so in the beginning i'm not in a position to demand a lot of things. at the end of the season, i win league, the cup and the champions league for a club who's never been able to see past the group stage of that tournament in their history and all i get is a praise. then i ask for more money, the board responds saying they're sick of me asking for money. that's not real. i should be more valuable than gold for them after winning so much for them.

the board shouldn't always have the upper hand. the board should always be under pressure as well. i win 50-60+ games back to back, all tournaments, fans hail me as a hero. i demand! the board fires me. life goes on as if nothing happened. fans agree with that, noone asks me anything or supports me. that's not real. the fans should protest the board and put them under pressure to support me and keep me in the club or they should threaten to abondon season tickets next season to protest...

Very good point. There's nearly no good-will to be built with a club though past successes, only quick sackings if a manager doesn't meet just one preconceived expectation. I like the idea of public support versus Board support and the dynamics and tension that can create.

We used to have statistics for a chairman back in CM. You could see how much you can test his patience, how fast he would sack you for not getting to your achievements fast enough. Or how easy he would give you pocket money to spend on new players, or what his level of ambition is.

If every other entity in the game has some ratings and 'personality', why can't the Board/Chairman?

Perhaps a little more variety in the means of training facilities would be nice. What exactly did they improve? It would be nice if you could pick a few options as to what you wish to improve.

The Board could take suggestions on what facilities to upgrade. Give the manager a choice of suggestions.

Rather than let your assistant find you 8 poor teams to play, or spend ages finding big teams and when they're available, you should be able to ask your assistant to find you teams of [slightly higher/similiar/slightly lower] [reputation/ability] to you who are available on certain dates, i.e you set a period (from early July to mid August or something) and he finds you X matches against similiar teams, so your friendlies will be slightly more competitive and help you to adjust tactics to suit the quality of teams you're likely to be up against.

Setting friendlies can be so time-consuming, offering games to opponents who have no intent on ever accepting, guessing about open dates or conflicts, et cetera. If I pick a date first, it could only show teams that are available on that date. If I pick a team first, it could show me the dates that team is available. How about that lovely little 'filter out unrealistic targets' check-box option, too?

Joining a new club - if they have sacked a manager due to underperformance and are languishing below pre-season predictions, and you take the job, they should create new expectations for you based on their current standing...ie get us out of the relegation zone and in to a safe position.

Manager expectations - lower league clubs should always consider how far you have taken them up to now before sacking you when relegated from the Prem League with say Southport. Making it challenging is one thing, but overall achievement ( ie Wenger at Arsenal ) at a club should be taken in to consideration.

Being knocked out of cups - linked with manager expectations, if you are a lower league club and are knocked out the league cup in round 2 by Man Utd, the board should take in to account the opposition that defeated you before getting to peeved about not getting to round 3 as per expectations.

All good points giving your performances some context and judging you according to that. Again the complaint is the Board considers little about a team's situation or history when determining when/if to sack a manager.

**Gentleman** · 04-08-2008 19:12

Originally Posted by Ter

Gentleman - The Wishlist thread was started so that we didn't have several "My ideas for FMxx" threads as at one point there were 12 of them on the front page alone. Huge lists don't promote organised discussion and it's very hard to keep track of what is going on in them. We do look over the wishlist thread when it's coming to the time to discuss ideas for our next game though as well as the other idea topics that we've taken an interest in.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I certainly do understand about how you try to avoid tons of threads about the same subject. I was merely trying to say that it would be easier to have one per version of FM, so the thread doesn't grow to a silly 30 pages with a huge amount of ancient posts. As you can see by the numerous replies, hardly anyone even bothers to read back to see if it has been mentioned before, which is of course not really helpful for any discussions between people who read the forum.
Unless, of course, you don't want them to. Which seems to be the case, looking at the other half of your reply ;-)

Originally Posted by Ter

It's much better and I personally prefer a single topic about a particular idea where that idea or area alone can be discussed and other users can give their opinions and add to the discussion.

I completely agree with that idea, but due to a lack of overview of which issues are already being discussed (a search doesn't always come up with the most appropriate topics), I thought that would be an idea.
Hence the thought to have a list of all proposed suggestions (or at least the decent ones, or the ones SI agree on being decent) in one (moderated/sticky) post with links to their own threads, so people can either comment on them, or discuss them in the proper threads.

Of course this means more moderating on the forum and a lot of transparency about what SI indeed consider a good suggestion - and looking at SI, I should've realized that you're not taking this approach, knowing how SI like to surprise us with features rather than announcing them ;-)

An overview would create a lot more discussion though, as people can easily browse to the proper thread SI assigned as the place to discuss that issue. But that's not my call, hence the suggestion in my previous post :-) I just thought I'd point it out, although I didn't expect to get a response - or even this fast.

Nevertheless, thank you for explaining, Ter. Glad to see someone from SI posting in this thread after a long time as well :-)

**Tommy vercetti** · 04-08-2008 19:39

I think that these would be really good to put in game:1)In one thread i found interesting when one guy said that it would be good to fix when assistant tells you that xx player is good or bad that he didnt even seen him playing as i said before in my post-players should be judged by their performances.
2)I dont see often that clubs loan players for example-club who would like to sign player whose reputation isnt very high and is unknown or player from its affiliate should loan player on short term-1-6 months to see him how he plays(something like trial),but also clubs should loan players with higher reputation like when barcelona needed backup for victor valdes and loaned manuel pinto-from celta for a fee,i want to say that in my manager game this wouldnt be possible because pinto would be key player and they wouldnt want to give him to me for a fee higher than his value.Also one great example is when Alex ferguson loaned Larsson to Man utd.
Smaller clubs like Slavia Prague also loaned players from Inter milan.
3)Then I dont see point of even having lower reputation leagues like N.Ireland because when i want to take some club from its league(Linfield for example)which is far best club in country and try to buy some player outside the league i cant buy anyone same thing with other leagues even higher reputation.They bought player from Swindon,Notthingam,Wrexham,Everton although they were all having N.Ireland nationality but I cant even persuade those players please fix that(big thanks if you already have).
4)Make pitch look more realistic with better graphic look of grass.
5)In game in Romanian league i havent seen that clubs are buying Moldovian,serbian,or portugal players which they naturaly do.
6)I would like that prices of players are showed like for example-5.000.000,00(and valute of that country $ for instance)because it looks better to me than 50K.Like in transfermarkt.
Also it would be excellent if when i would buy some player in same country that price would be in valute of that country.

I hope that there is time to put these in new game.

Thanks for your time

**dankrzyz** · 04-08-2008 19:53

Originally Posted by Gentleman

I completely agree with that idea, but due to a lack of overview of which issues are already being discussed (a search doesn't always come up with the most appropriate topics), I thought that would be an idea.

OOTP Developments (the leader in baseball sims the same way FM is in football/soccer) organized the idea threads to their last annual update as follows: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...-version-ootp/

Skip over the first 10 user-created threads and the rest of the page you will see the topic-by-topic suggestion threads. The topics are basic, like "finances", "scouting", "new features", "game interface", "league set-up options", et cetera. These are stickied and moderated to keep people on topic and on task.

Just an idea.

**Spagbol** · 04-08-2008 20:13

Originally Posted by BenMRowe

3) With respect to transfers - frankly it should be easier to offload players. After a relegation I quite often want to offload some of my highest earners, and will offer them out to clubs. Even if you offer them on a free, quite often you'll get 50 responses saying: 'We didn't consider this deal value for money'. It just seems a bit bizarre.

Totally agree, I've seen in the news so many times in the last couple of weeks "I've told X he should look for a new club for himself, as he has no future here." I'd like to see similar in the game if you set a player to 'no longer needed'. His status should indicate 'doesn't want to leave club' or 'currently looking for a new club' and you should get news items saying

"Player X's agent has contacted you knowing the following teams would be interested in player X:"

And then you'd get a list of what teams were interested and what they'd be willing to offer. THEN you could hit the 'offer to clubs' button at the bottom of the news item, set your asking price and know you're going to get positive responses.

**Spagbol** · 04-08-2008 20:44

I'm quite keen on being able to be an assistant manager idea now.

I wasn't previously, but if it's done in a very similar way to how you could be the U-21 manager of a country I'd enjoy it. Obviously you wouldn't get to buy players, but you'd manager the reserves instead of the first team. I know it may sound boring to some, but you don't have to accept jobs as assistant managers.

**norbak** · 05-08-2008 11:30

Things I would like to change in future games:

1)
When playing a FM08 save game, you almost never see some new Rooney, Aguero, Cristiano etc. being created when every season is over. I'm playing with Everton in 2017 and if you take a look at the player search list vs. the list when you start a completely new game you see a big age difference. It's a shame. There aren't created enough big talents or wonderkids if you compare to the 2007/2008 season players. This also means that the big teams starts playing and buying rubish players and the average age on each team is very high.

2007 player search list: http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007zf4.jpg
2017 player search list: http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2017mc7.jpg

2)
Foreigns clubs aren't as active on the transfer market as the clubs in your own league or country. This means that after 10 seasons has past they have a lot of grey players (and often crazy ones!) and you can still get your ass kicked! Again, this could be solved by creating more regens after each season and maybe some more young talents who could become a future ronaldo.

I'm not saying that we need to create an army of wonderkids, but it just doesn't seem realistic that there aren't created ANY crazy 16-18 year old talents out there.
I just like to play my games a long time so I believe I'm being a bit punished because of the player-creation-system isn't working as I think it should (Sorry SI, I still love you guys!

)

Sorry for my crappy english and gramma

**Dexza66** · 05-08-2008 13:59

it would be cool if you could be the chairman or start a consortium to buy a club and then become chairman/manager. Maybe you could have different levels of starting cash and then as the game goes on you earn more money. So say you start off with 20million buy a coca cola league 1 or 2 side then they become successful so the club makes more and more money so then you can either buy a new bigger club or upgrade your own.

The whole aspect of business really needs to be adjusted like stadiums should be different and you should have a say in how they look their features and things like corporate seats and all those sorts of things. Also training facilities shouldn't just be a number from 1-20 because there is a lot more variation you should be able to purchase different aspects of training facilities like hi-tech gym equipment, hyperbaric chambers, clubs personal swimming pools etc. You should also have control over where you train if you do not own your own facilities like small clubs might have to go to very small gyms to train.

More so with the business things like shirt sales and the general way in which a club makes revenue needs to have more involvement from the player. The money in the game is a very important thing when buying players but you can't even control ticket prices and things like this so if your club starts going broke the ability to recover is very hands off. Sponsorship should be chosen by the club not just given and it shouldn't be limited to just one sponsor almost as many sponsors as clubs can get without annoying other sponsors.

Something different might be the potential for leagues to change over time. Like the number of teams or tiers in a nation the layout of cups or the introduction of new cups or competitions. Maybe over time the equality between european leagues and asian leagues and american leagues etc. gets closer so a new world champions league is developed to find the ultimate club.

And the potential thing.... you can't really limit a persons potential because even though not every player in the world is going to become ronaldo you can't decide at 16 a player has the potential to be. in reality almost anyone has the potential to play professional soccer at some level but often life circumstances, commitment and other factors limit just how could some actually becomes. If you to the training ethic and mentality of someone like ronaldo and gave it to any young person then set then up in a big soccer club they would be able to become a very very good soccer player. Saying this person is only ever going to be good enough to play for a blue-square premier team before hes play a proffesional match is a joke. A players ultimate potential should never be limited only certain physilogical attributes like strength and speed should be limited because genetics limit these attributes. instead a player should have a current ability then suspected potential but say a player only expected to play in coca cola league 1 becomes really determined for whatever reason he then can train and focus harder and become a premier league player, even a worldclass player.

thats all i can think of for now.

**norbak** · 05-08-2008 14:17

Originally Posted by Dexza66

it would be cool if you could be the chairman or start a consortium to buy a club and then become chairman/manager.

This idea has been mentioned a lot of times but I don't see it having a future. The concept of theidea would destroy the manager-aspect of the game.
It's called Football Manager - not Football Chairman

I would stop playing the game if that would be implemented. Doesn't belong to our beloved Football Manager

**isuckatfm** · 05-08-2008 16:15

Quick flicks for the fixtures screen.

So instead of the back and forth I click on one fixture, click the quick flick to go to +1 or -1 while retaining whatever view I selected (Overview, match stats, home player stats etc.).

**x42bn6** · 05-08-2008 23:24

I'd like managers to be a bit more ambitious or proactive. I managed to sign Pato on a free and I was the only person competing for his signature (besides Milan who bizarrely didn't try very hard to keep him) - hardly realistic in the real world. If Pato had 1 month left on his contract, the whole world would be after him.

**Korzon3k** · 06-08-2008 12:07

I want to see in FM 2009 more details about your favourite clubs. Let's see: You play Manchester United and your favourite club is HSV than if HSV will play the match and after the end of the match you have detailed informations about played match.

Sorry for my english, I am from Poland

**Obi-Wan Kenobi** · 06-08-2008 16:21

In light of the ruling regarding Messi today, FM09 should allow us to withdraw any player from an Olympic Games call-up.

**jakes** · 06-08-2008 21:52

When you buy a player who does not qualify for a work permit, and then while he is on your books (or maybe because you bought him)he starts playing enough international matches to qualify for a work permit, but he cannot re-apply for the permit in FM08.

FM09 should definitely give the functionality of re-applying for a work permit at a later date, and not only give the options of either receiving a work permit upon purchase or being denied a work permit upon purchase and need to spend 3 years on loan in belgium to qualify for a work permit... (real life example being Manucho at Man Utd - he didn't qualify for a work permit when they bought him, but he has now played enough games for Angola and they are in the process of re-applying... imagine them having to wait 3 years before he can play for them)

**LutonNil** · 06-08-2008 22:55

Getting slightly miffed when my star player gets the hump when I substitute him - he is only 19 and hasn't really got the physical attributes yet to play 90 minutes every game

I would like to explain to him why he was taken off

"You were on a yellow card"
"I was trying to save you for the next game"
"I wanted to give one of the reserves a few minutes on the pitch"
"You were getting tired"
"You were injured you dick!!"

**grade** · 06-08-2008 23:22

LOL That last one is great idea.

**Tommy vercetti** · 07-08-2008 10:04

I have been playing Fifa manager and there wasnt nothing specialy about it,but one thing left mark on me and that was news system and better made press conferences which add realistic touch to game.
When you put in player and later again substitute he should be angry and say "why did you embarrassed me" as in fifa,also more press conferences after important games or big wins or losses-where journalist asks you will you resign from your job or not,etc.
You should also ad that your acts can have positive or negative consenquences like on game,and also players,fans,board you should choose wisely what will you say or do.
Also i saw that in fifa you could allow your players to go in pubs but i could say "if you get drunk you will not be in team or something" and i would like that you include this in game.
Better interaction with game should be main core of new game.

Fifa 09 main site skin is beautiful and i think that you could make something like that for FM 09 also with bigger nation flags in main menu.

Cheers

**ILuvManUforeva** · 07-08-2008 10:32

This may have already been mentioned but something I'd like to see implemented is in the area of player transfers.

When bidding to buy a hot young talent who isn't ready for the first team at the top level yet, there should be a loan-back option to include in the transfer clauses, so you can send them back to their initial club to gain more experience.

**SavageNick** · 07-08-2008 12:13

I'd just like to say a round of applause to Gentleman - outstanding post m8! It was very well organised despite the size, and I agree with basically everything you've posted.

Since I haven't read the other 30 pages of this thread (mainly because I can't be bothered to find where the "Features for 09" posts start) I'll assume other people have already posted this, but will do it anyway

My main 2 gripes (as some of the posters on here will know after the various threads I've started/joined recently) are the 2D Match engine, and Team Talks.

Firstly, Team talks. Basically, IMHO these are more dangerous than helpful. More than once I've been completely at a loss as to what to say to my players at half time. Being 2-0 up against UTD when I'm leeds in their first season (in recent memory) in the prem, I am absolutely mentally happy with the team, however, god forbid I actually say something positive to the team! If I do, they commit total suicide and I lose 4-2 (this actually happened, it was pretty damn painful). The "best" thing to say to them, is to say nothing. Does that sound as rediculous to any1 else as it does to me? When in gods' name would a manager say NOTHING to a team when they are 2-0 up against the biggest team in the world??? Seriously, this needs to be fixed. At the very least, give us something to say to the team that will HELP!

Now the 2D match engine. The first of my points is code related, the rest are purely cosmetic (and lets be honest, the cosmetic ones can REALLY sell a new game). I would like to see more consistency when it comes to Shots. Clearly, super-keepering doesn't exist as this would be silly, but it seems to me that the 2D engine has to try and "make up" the difference between it and the normal engine. For example, your strikers can't score, because their shots are rubbish, however in the 2D engine they look pretty damn good - this makes people think they have been robbed, when actually its their tactics/strikers not working properly. The other changes I would like to see are better "depth" in the engine. Atm, when the ball is hoofed high, you can see it because the ball gets smaller etc, I would LOVE to see the players doing much the same thing when they jump/fall over (not necessarily getting bigger/smaller, just some visual indicator). This would help with tactics aswell, as managers would be able to see if a player is winning headers, is simply taking the ball on his chest while staying on the ground or even that he is being muscled off the ball and pushed over. Plus it would look cool imho. Another thing I would like to see is tricks. In real life, players like Ronaldo and Robinho basically CONSTANTLY do tricks when they have the ball, hence their very high flair and "Tries tricks" in the game - however, you don't seem to see any of this in the engine. It would be a massive improvement imho to see players doing some step overs or something similar before belting past a defender.

Thats my 2p

**Jambo** · 07-08-2008 12:43

Need to really be able to kick 'new network clients' during online play. I host a clan and the amount of times I've had to take the game down and reload due to this is ridiculous.

**iDUNO** · 07-08-2008 14:43

Might of been said but incase it hasnt ill go for it. From playin several diff football games over the years theres only been a few things that have stuck that make me thing Football manager should have that, that would be awsome ect, one being the kits and all that, im not talking about havning the prem kits an badges an stuff im talkin about like on pro evo where u can edit kits where you have a library of diff paternd kits to choose from, so every season if you want you cud just change the style of kit over to something keeps things fresh makes the game look new every season, and on fifa you could choose wich sponsor you wanted but it didnt show this sponsor on your kit, the idea being on FM to be able to choose ur sponsors and then for it to be displayed on ur kit. Im not sure how it could be made to work, but im sure some sort of template system sorta thing is how it could be done with a library of template kits and being able to choose one each season getting different options for different sponsors, obviously you wouldnt have to go overboard with it you would only need about 3 templates to each sponsor. FM tactically is sound theres so much depth to it, in my opinion some work on the other aspect of the game should have alot of stuff added like others have said more in depth press conferences little bit more interaction with players and staff thats all FM needs really weve got a perfect game, so more detail is the only way to make it better.

**LeedsinPremierLeague** · 07-08-2008 19:38

Major concerns:
1. Player transfer: No Portuguese, French (except Lyon), Dutch or Greek teams have the money or the reputation to hire EPL, Serie A, La Liga or Bundesliga players. Only players that requested a transfer or play secondary roles in their clubs move outside these 4 big leagues. In recent FMs this was not taken into account and some transfers are ridiculous.
The gap between the reputation of EPL, Serie A, La Liga and the Bundesliga and the other leagues should be much higher than the 17 (0-20 scale) that is given to the Bundesliga and the 15 that is given to the French (same level as the Brazilian and Argentinian) or the 14 that is given to the Portuguese or Dutch league.
The game is not reflecting what is happening nowadays. Small clubs like Wigan or Sunderland will be able to attract the best players from Portugal, Argentina, Holland, Greece or Turkey. Nowadays players will prefer to move to the EPL to avoid relegation than to go to the Champions League.
2. Player movement is controlled by: 1st. league reputation 2nd. basic wage 3rd. club reputation
If the first two change dramatically, the third factor is meaningless.
3. Player awards: Big awards should only go to players whose world reputation is higher than 150, for example. This would avoid a lot of stupid events...
4. Football Agents: It should be possible to introduce that in the game. It is a very complex thing, because the football agents have a huge influence on the player, but it would be nice to see how a simple change from a small agent to a big name one could change a player mentality. Example: Joao Moutinho from Sporting changed to Pini Zahavi and now wants to leave Sporting to go to England.
5. Tactics: using 442 you should have to have at least two players who know how to defend. It is usual to see a team with 4 attacking midfielders winning trophies...That has never happened before! You cannot put Ronaldo, Anderson, Nani and Park in the midfield and expect to be successful.
6. Finances should reflect modern football. Instead of balance, transfer money and wage budget you should stick to a Balance and a SEASON BUDGET which would include everything. The Balance reflects the present and the SEASON BUDGET is the money that you can spend during one season. This would be great because small clubs in big leagues have a lot more money to spend than big clubs in lower leagues have. Example: Ajax or Benfica budget vs Sunderland or Wigan.
7. It should be easy to loan players to lower league sides...
8. Clubs should not sell players that are available for loan. Most of the times if a player is available for loan you can buy him at a very low price with no trouble at all.

**fcdallas1982** · 07-08-2008 21:31

Add the champions league to the Concacaf. It starts in August and all the teams are set now. I'd love it. =)

**Hamenaglar** · 07-08-2008 22:13

Originally Posted by Spagbol

I'm quite keen on being able to be an assistant manager idea now.

I wasn't previously, but if it's done in a very similar way to how you could be the U-21 manager of a country I'd enjoy it. Obviously you wouldn't get to buy players, but you'd manager the reserves instead of the first team. I know it may sound boring to some, but you don't have to accept jobs as assistant managers.

I would love that too. However it would have to be implemented very carefully. I don't think just managing reserves would be enough.

**LutonNil** · 07-08-2008 22:18

Another couple of things:

Stop AI clubs from bidding for my players the day after they have just signed a new contract!! - bloody annoying

More players should be regenerated in non active leagues - I am only playing with English leagues active and there are no players (only greys) in any of the European U19 teams - should be at least 20 players generated between 14 and 17 per year in each country and less worthless English players generated without clubs

Do away with clubless youth players (or at least reduce it by 90%) and regenerate them so they come through the youth system of every club - 4 or 5 per year per club would be about right

**addlestone_cfc** · 07-08-2008 23:39

As a manager i should have the option to ask the groundsman to 'prepare' the pitch according to my teams or the opposition teams style of play.

ie my team likes to play quick, flowing direct football. i should ask him to water the surface before the game to allow this.

ie2 the opposition team likes to play slick flowing football. i should ask him to not flatten the surface and keep it rough and bumpy and then get my team playing long aerial football

this could even lead to actually knowing how capable your groundsman is and maybe allowing for myself as the manager to either select the groundsman myself or recommend to the board what level of groundsman the club should have. at the moment all we have is the option to make the pitch a certain size. this is only a small part of what the groundsman would actually get involved in.

**Hamenaglar** · 08-08-2008 18:39

Getting rid of the CA/PA system so that players could be developed depending on their mental attributes, traning, luck, level of opposition they play.

**Hauler24** · 08-08-2008 18:43

Better Regens... period.

**CAFC Nick** · 08-08-2008 18:54

Only a few requests from me, and im basically echoing what everyone else has said. I would liek there ot be more interaction between other managers and players and even officials etc. I would like there to be the system where if you complain after a match about a referee and the replay turns out to be correct, then maybe that official is given a warning of left out of the refereeing roster for the next week (like what happens in the Premiership) instead of just either "The FA stay silent over criticism" or getting served a touchline ban.

The only other request I have is just to fix the match engine from 08 where you would have 20 shots on target and score 1 whereas the opposition would have 2 shots on target and score 2.

Other than that I just love this game too much to want it all changed!

**llama3** · 08-08-2008 19:53

Originally Posted by fashiondesign_guru

why? and what makes you an authority to decide which idea is idiotic and which not? he's a consumer of the game and writes what he'd like to see. i'd like to see similar things as well. if you don't like the feature requested then don't add support and that's enough but it doesn't give you a right to bark at people..

as for the idea, i think roles of assistant manager and being promoted in the club management/board after seasons of success as manager are great ideas. An assistant manager could eventually be promoted to be a manager and/or get contract offers from somewhere else while he's an assistant manager, like Quiroz of ManU once coaching Real and now Portugal.

Just wait, I will add my wishes now.

to be honest if he doesnt say that he dislikes the idea then that gives the illusion of support, i think an idea does need to be criticised as well as supported so we can identify potential flaws in the plan. he is a consumer as well so he gets as much right to say what he would not like on his game

**llama3** · 08-08-2008 19:57

few ideas i have seen and liked:
addlestone_cfc mentioned about giving groundsman instructions depending on your style and opposition.
sorro mentioned about a head scout and again i agree
i further agree with comments relating to better regens, with better attributes, often they rarely improve to decent attributes, especially penalty taking

i would like to see the ridiculous coloured bars for sevilla and anderlect and monaco removed, their main colours are white, and it mucks up what kits teams wear when they play them, the amount of times i see sevilla travel to various spanish clubs and both teams changing is a bit of a farce.

i would also like a bit more freedom editing kits on the editor, i.e. to be able to select the number colours etc which currently you cant, and the game normally makes the numbers black or white disregarding what our editing says

**matfarrell** · 08-08-2008 20:04

On the 2d pitch, maybe players have free kick routines like running over the ball, also when they hav long shots a more realistic curl on the ball not some bizarre outside of the foot 35 yarder that looks like a roberto carlos free kick!

**llama3** · 08-08-2008 20:12

oh PLEASE more realistic transfer fees:

If Joe Bloggs is a £5m rated DC then i shouldnt have to pay £14.5m to actually sign him, if his value is £5m i cant imagine a reason why i should have to pay more than about £7.25m or maybe up to £8m for him.

**Facers1** · 08-08-2008 21:28

I think that players should also retire at a decent age .... example jaime carragher is 39 and playing for A BSN TEAM ... not realistic

**MKL92** · 09-08-2008 11:02

In light of the recent Messi debate - whether he should go to the olympics - the Argentine FA (or whoever) have employed a huge insurance policy on him. So if Messi got injured at the Olympics, then Barcelona will be compensated for that.
I was just wondering if compensation on your top player(s) could be implemented. eg You are Man Utd, and International call ups have taken place in September. If Ronaldo got injured for say 9 months - you would want compensation for losing one of your best players for the rest of the season.

**Hamenaglar** · 09-08-2008 11:27

Several options in player instructions, such as Cut in, shoot vs. pass and maybe few others.

**Mizta05** · 11-08-2008 17:53

Sorry if this has been mentioned before but here are some of my suggestions for improving future versions.

First of all, i'd like to se a change in the scandinavian leagues with regards to transfers, as the clubs very quickly begin to use an absurd amount of money. See as how i'm from Denmark and as such only have an in-debt knowledge of transfers by danish clubs and to a lesser extend by other scandinavian clubs, I do not know whether this is a problem in other leagues as well. I do, however, have a suggestion as to how this problem might be solved.

In Denmark, clubs often have (profitable) business ventures on the side and as such football is only part of the 'company' that is the football club. The prime example in Denmark is Football Club Copenhagen (FCK), which is currently one of the top clubs in the world business wise. In the game, I believe, they are also the richest Danish club and thus also the club that spends the most unrealistic amount of money each year on transfers. In real life, however, they cannot just go out and spend every penny they have on new players, as much of their balance is tied up in the other businesses that constitutes the parent-organisation that FCK is a part of, Parken Sport and Entertainment.
Therefore, my proposal would be as follows. Create a feature in which clubs from Denmark, and other countries if necessary, can use only a certain amount of the balance on transfers. Say in Denmark, for instance, a club might only be allowede to use 20 percent of the balance for transfers, the rest being used for management and investment or something like that. However, the balance could still be used on projects such as improving training facilities etc. Needless to say, the idea still needs some polishing but in my mind it would be a way to mangage the problem of unrealistic overspending by scandinavian clubs.

Another problem I have with the game is the transfer engine, or what it's called. Basically, i think it is working ok, but i would like to see more negotiations and it becoming easier to sell players.

Let's say i'm Ajax Amsterdam and Juventus is interested in buying my star striker Huntelaar. They inquire what the price on the player is, and see as how he is my star I start off with a price tag of 35 million euros, which might be unrealistic but if I am to sell him I want as much for him as possible, right? Yet maybe I might consider a lower price if offered one. This is a scenario that plays out in many transfers in the real world, where clubs start out wanting a certain price but through negotiation ends up settling for less.
This is not properly implemented in the game in my oppinion. Take the abovemetioned example. Most of the time, i would get a message stating that they have withdrawn their enquiry or something like that, eventhough i have selected that the (counter) offer is negotiable. I would like to see that Juventus instead comes with an offer in the area of what they would like to pay for him, say 28m and 15 percent sell-on or whatever. Then I would be able to make a counter offer of 32 million plus whatever, etc. I imagine that is how most tranfers are negotiated in real life at least. And if I don't wan't to sell for less than 35m I could always select that the offer is non negotiable.
This is an area that I believe is important to improve.

My third suggestion also concerns transfers. Again, this is something I know happens in the Danish league and I would be surprised if it does not happen in other leagues as well. I'll present it with an example. I'm the Danish club Brøndby IF and Martin Retov has played for me for six years (in RL he has just been sold). He is a good player, but i have some youngsters that are pushing for playing time on the first team. Retov is the right age and good enough to go abroad and try off his talent, but he has not yet asked to be sold to a bigger club. As the game is now, I could try to offer him to other clubs, but this would almost certainly be rewarded with the same reaction by the player as if he was transfer listed, and his team mates might become angry as well. I don't wan't to disrupt the harmony in the squad and certainly not disgruntle a loyal, long serving player.
Therefore, I would like to be able to interact with the player to ask him if he feels ready to move on or something like that, and be able to subsequently ask around to hear if any club might be interested in the player (by offering him to other clubs for example) without causing an outcry.
It could also be tied in with a feature that would allow cash strapped clubs to ask their most expensive players if they would mind being sold/offered to other clubs to lessen the wage burden, or simply for smaller clubs to earn a buck on a player. This is a feature I would like to see implemented.

Finally, I would like to see more interaction from the scouts. For instance, it would be nice to get, or be able to request, a report from your scouts on wether there are any promising/worthwhile players in your feeder clubs. Also, I believe that clubs should have a 'chief' scout as I understand many clubs i RL have, one perhaps appointed by you. This scout, presumably your best scout, could be asked to make a final report on any player you are considering signing. For instance, you have found a player in brasil and your scout in South America rates him as a decent prospect. Then you can get your chief scout to take a look at him as well and he will be able to give a more complete and accurated report on the player.

Just some suggestions from me that I belive could improve this otherwise fantastic game. Hopefully, someone from SI will take a look at them and think the same

.

Patrick

**dankrzyz** · 11-08-2008 23:12

The manager history screen is confusing! I would love to be able to sort past achievements by type (league wins, cup wins, et cetera). For cup history, it would be nice to eliminate the "won 1st rd" "won 2nd rd" "won 3rd rd" over and over if you won all the way to the semifinals. Just say "advanced to semifinals".

Also a simple manager history, year by year, showing which team he managed, what the team's record/points were under his management, and league finishes. Same for international or league cups (furthest round advanced to). Manager history is such a great aspect to the game and making it clearer would be great.

**ajc** · 12-08-2008 02:32

Not sure if this has been mentioned before - only a small thing. In the managers info screen it tells you how many leagues/cups you have won. Would like to be able to click on it so it gives you a breakdown of what you have won would be better for when you get later in the game !
eg:leagues won - 4 premiership titles,1 la liga title. Cups won - 2 champions league,1 community sheild,2 spanish cup and so on!!

**Onyewu** · 12-08-2008 03:12

I would like to see a "Commissioner Mode" for solitary play. It would allow me to control this virtual universe.

My reasoning is that I like to play the season of several teams as they happen in real life (actual schedule, player line-ups, etc.). Where it becomes difficult is during the transfer windows when I try to replicate my teams transfers (without success sometimes), while in the meantime other teams are signing the likes of Ronaldinho which creates an unfair advantage (in my little world). Although I do enjoy being fired!!

The "commissioner mode" may work well in the "FM Live" game?????

This option/practice is available in other sporting games (Action PC Games, Diamond Mind, Pursue the Pennant and FaceOff Hockey for example). To me it is awkward having such little control over the game.

Thanks for listening.

**LutonNil** · 12-08-2008 03:55

An improvement on the medical side of things

Facilities ranging from local hospital to state of the art medical/rehabilitation centre at the club - the better the facilities the quicker a player returns from injury

Also employing a club doctor to oversee treatment or recommend sending to a specialist (which would cost money)

**Tommy vercetti** · 12-08-2008 09:27

This is only cosmetic thing:Make that flags in country/league section are moving like they are blown in the wind,also make this for club shirts.

In feeder clubs and clubs that are in lower leagues there are never any players that my assistant or scout describe as an good or hot prospect and that should be mostly young players,in real world there are many talented players but very few of them become world class players only by their talents,they should work very hard to become top players but there are also players that are not so talented but are hard working and they are becoming successful.

Thats all from me,I hope that demo will come out very soon and that i wont be disappointed

Cheers

**Lupe Lebô** · 12-08-2008 15:13

A pop-up in match screen who you can see some important latest scores... you can choose some games to track.

**GillsMan** · 12-08-2008 16:17

Originally Posted by Hamenaglar

Getting rid of the CA/PA system so that players could be developed depending on their mental attributes, traning, luck, level of opposition they play.

Actually, that's not a bad idea you know. Though there has to be some PA element built into the game. No matter how much training and luck I receive, and no matter if I was playing against the best players in the world, with all the will in the world, I'll still be crap. But to a degree I think there's sense in what you're saying.

**as260191** · 12-08-2008 16:25

Don't know if this has been mentioned, but I think that the option to make your manager's face using the facegen software would be a nice gimmicky touch, then you can see how he ages over time, and it would also affect the appearance of any sons you might get.

**Fqdd** · 12-08-2008 16:33

I just think there should be more news/press conferences concerning managers' and players' history, for instance:

You've managed a club for a couple of seasons, and you've won a couple of trophies and then move to another club. Then you play against your former club in the League or the CL, there should be some news or questions about that, like there already is with the players, shouldn't it? And make the already existing question more developed, or coming up with different questions.

In brief, more involvement by the media concerning the Clubs', Managers' and Players' history...

cheers

**GillsMan** · 12-08-2008 16:33

Originally Posted by Mizta05

Finally, I would like to see more interaction from the scouts. For instance, it would be nice to get, or be able to request, a report from your scouts on wether there are any promising/worthwhile players in your feeder clubs. Also, I believe that clubs should have a 'chief' scout as I understand many clubs i RL have, one perhaps appointed by you. This scout, presumably your best scout, could be asked to make a final report on any player you are considering signing. For instance, you have found a player in brasil and your scout in South America rates him as a decent prospect. Then you can get your chief scout to take a look at him as well and he will be able to give a more complete and accurated report on the player.

Just some suggestions from me that I belive could improve this otherwise fantastic game. Hopefully, someone from SI will take a look at them and think the same

.

Patrick

They're all good ideas, but this one I particularly like. I like the idea of having a chief scout and being able to have him run the rule over someone one of my "lesser" scouts has recommended. Good idea.

**The Enforcer** · 12-08-2008 19:35

I would like to see the return of a feature that used to be in the SIGames CM3-series, but disappeared when it became the FM-Series. It relates to filter options in the Player Search section of the game, where you can specify the maximum or minimum values for a number of attributes to be used to filter a list of players. In the CM3 series, there was the option of specifying how many of the values should match your criteria.

For Example, if you are looking for a targetman with values above 15 in heading, jumping, strength, bravery, composure, off the ball, finishing, balance, aggression, work rate, determination, teamwork, it is unlikely that you may find someone with all of these, so you used to be able to ask the filter to reveal players with an attribute score of 15 for any ten of the twelve selected attributes.

**dankrzyz** · 12-08-2008 20:09

Originally Posted by The Enforcer

For Example, if you are looking for a targetman with values above 15 in heading, jumping, strength, bravery, composure, off the ball, finishing, balance, aggression, work rate, determination, teamwork, it is unlikely that you may find someone with all of these, so you used to be able to ask the filter to reveal players with an attribute score of 15 for any ten of the twelve selected attributes.

I would use this all the time.

**dankrzyz** · 12-08-2008 20:15

Originally Posted by Lupe Lebô

A pop-up in match screen who you can see some important latest scores... you can choose some games to track.

..for example, your fierce rivals and other rivals, your (manager's) favorite club, teams you're in competition with in the league (toward the end of the season), potential next-match teams if you're in a cup. Just a few ideas.

**adebajo** · 12-08-2008 20:21

I'd love to have the option of withdrawing a player from international games during the league season. For example, I had a CL final to play and an FA cup final too only to find out that my best players Christiano Ronaldo and a few others were not allowed to play because they've been called up to the national squad without my knowledge. This resulted in having to play reserve players in a Champions League final of all things, surely those players would like to play in the final.

Options would be to provide;
(1) A player option to accept/refuse the call up during the league season.
(2) The manager/club to have the final say whether to allow/refuse the player permission to go.

**adebajo** · 12-08-2008 20:24

I'd love to see the overall goals scored in all the cups and league by a player per season rather then just the only goals scored in the premiership alone by a player.

**ajc** · 12-08-2008 20:43

Originally Posted by adebajo

I'd love to see the overall goals scored in all the cups and league by a player per season rather then just the only goals scored in the premiership alone by a player.

I agree with this much better to see torres has scored his 50 goals but shows as 28!

**Richie Brill** · 12-08-2008 22:18

Originally Posted by fashiondesign_guru

why? and what makes you an authority to decide which idea is idiotic and which not? he's a consumer of the game and writes what he'd like to see. i'd like to see similar things as well. if you don't like the feature requested then don't add support and that's enough but it doesn't give you a right to bark at people..

as for the idea, i think roles of assistant manager and being promoted in the club management/board after seasons of success as manager are great ideas. An assistant manager could eventually be promoted to be a manager and/or get contract offers from somewhere else while he's an assistant manager, like Quiroz of ManU once coaching Real and now Portugal.

Just wait, I will add my wishes now.

Well I guess the "idiot" you replied to has never noticed that Assistant Manager and Football Manager have 1 thing in common, the word MANAGER! The assistant is just as important as the manager in my opinion and there should be an opportunity to be the assistant manager.

**My old login got lost** · 12-08-2008 22:37

Discussed earlier, another vote for an 'unsackable' option from me. You don't have to use it any more than you do 'no real players' or adding Harchester United.
Some people want to be 'Barcelona' instead of being 'Barcelona manager'.
I know for a fact that if I get sacked in my Barcelona job, I'll just re-add a manager because it's my 'big club' game in FM08, I only ever have one per version and I'm 9 years in. I'm not starting a new game now.

**lawler09** · 12-08-2008 23:43

my idea is the idea of tabs. (sorry if this has been posted before!)

Quick photshop idea im talking about ----> http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...anagertabs.jpg

i feel this would help especially when searching for players during transfer windows. i hate clicking on one player, then moving on to the next, then finding myself wanting to go back. takes an age. whereas this idea lets you move between players quickly and easy.

**MunkD** · 13-08-2008 00:18

Originally Posted by Facers1

I think that players should also retire at a decent age .... example jaime carragher is 39 and playing for A BSN TEAM ... not realistic

Actually you can find quite a few old boys playing in the lower leagues. Maybe not the Jamie Carraghers but Frank Sinclairs got to be atleast 36 by now and he's still playing for Huddersfield in league one, Robbie Fowlers still going, so is Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke. Torre Andre Flo has just retired but only due to injury, there's plenty of golden oldies about.

Back on topic, I'd like the strapping 6'4" center half to easily out jump the 5'9" light weight winger and clear the ball up field during the last 10 minutes when drawing/leading by a single goal. I'm getting fed up with my team of giants heading behind 8 times in a row against some circus midgets with the smallest of the lot grabbing the goal.

I'd like the board to be more flexible with contract negotions with certain players. I've got the club captain who came through the ranks and spent his entire career at the club agreeing to a major paycut with his final contract but the board wont loosen the purse strings for an extra 4k on his apperence fee (despite saving about a total of £4 million on his wages).

Finally, I'd like AI managers to stop stock piling useless youngers and highly paid OAPs in the reserves and generally ruining every club I intend to manage. If I get the England job down the line and find it full of Frenchmen then Steve McClaren will die.

**BigBillyBob** · 13-08-2008 13:58

Can we have a staff shortlist?

Often when staff rejects your offer they accept an offer down the line?

It would just make things a little more easier.

**Younging** · 13-08-2008 14:07

the option to disable some of the pointless news comments that reoccur, i.e. face a froemr player at a different club and the disaalowed goal that doesnt nothing other than fine you or be silent and mock you.

**Jamie1weston** · 13-08-2008 15:41

i would like to see:

- more player interaction (with your own players and players you wish to sign i.e. telling them your ambitions for the club so they are more inclined to sign for you)
- improved scouting
- a more indepth view on how your training is affecting your players
- possibly an option to start as an assistant manager to a larger team before managing (only as an option though as not everyone would want this)

**WillemII@Tilburg** · 14-08-2008 09:35

I would really like AI-clubs to stop bidding the same amount of cash for a player 20 times in one transfer window when I clearly told them I wasn't going to accept that bid. Especially with players that are much wanted, this is very annoying, since you often have multiple clubs bidding the same amount over and over again... very frustrating.

I want a match-engine like the current CM. It's a bit more 3D (you can see hight etc.), but it's still very much a model that leaves much to your own imagination. I want pitch-invasions by fans, I want confetti, fireworks etc. when winning a competition and I want to see my blobs (players) on a podium with a cup after winning a competion.

AND I want a screen which ONLY shows the competitions I won (and/or runner up and/or promotion/relegation which you should be able to turn off/on). There was such a screen in CM97/98 (long time ago, I know), and it has never returned. The screen I'm talking about shows something like this:

2007/8: Serie A winners (Juventus)
2007/8: Italian Cup runner-up (Juventus)
2010/11: Promotion from Dutch First Division (VVV)
2011/12: Relegation from Dutch Premier Division (VVV)
2013/14: Champions League winners (Ajax)
etc.

This screen gave you a clear overview of the things you had achieved as a manager. The screens we now have that replaced the one I'm talking about, also shows how you did in all rounds of every cup you participated in and this makes the screen very untidy. It's a small thing to add and would make me very happy.

I also want to see a small map of the world/land/city with the location of my club/stadium. This makes it so much cooler to see what clubs are rivals etc.

**LeedsinPremierLeague** · 14-08-2008 10:45

DATABASE
1. In the last few years I have suggested that the database should be built in blocks. This way you could download updates on the French, English or German leagues independently. My knowledge of the French, Italian or German leagues is not as good as the Portuguese or the English. You already have researches but most of the times - and though their contribution is extremely valuable - you have to go through a never ending process of editing. There are people who update the entire database and make it available for everyone. So there is a lot more candidates if you only have to focus on updating your own country database and download the remaining blocks. Better, simpler and you dont have to wait until February or March to start playing the game.
2. If 1. is totally impossible, the Editor and Database should be released in early September so that all the potential users could start updating and changing the database to make it better and more realistic.
By October or November, you could start playing the game instead of starting to change everything that is incorrect.

**Alekos** · 14-08-2008 21:25

I really want from the developers to add 3rd Division of Greece and also the Cypriot league since already have included leagues from other countries with much lower reputation...

**Satan\'s Little Helper** · 14-08-2008 22:30

Can we ask players to mark a particular position please. So, rather than man mark (which will mark the player which the AI deems appropriate, for good or ill), or mark specific player (which can go wrong when the opposition moves players around) can I ask my right sided full back to mark left midfield, or alternatively I might want to mark their left full back. If they move personnel then I'll mark whomever moves into that position, unless I deliberately change it.

Another feature which I'd appreciate, although this may be more difficult to implement, is to set alternative formations and tactics to match the opposition. If I set up a 442 against a 433, then I might ask one centre back to man mark, the other to sweep and the full backs to man mark. If the opposition go 442 then I'll ask both centre backs to man mark and the full backs to go zonal. If I could advise my players to adapt in this manner before I start then I won't be stuck with hassle and, more importantly, the crucial delay, when the opposition switch formations mid game. I don't think it's beyond the wit of man to tell a back four to adapt when the opposition adapt. I don't expect them to react to every change imaginable but if I can anticipate it before it happens then I should be able to tell my players how to react when it does happen.

That last point is related to the general problem of the opposition being able to change tactics more quickly than a human player. I don't believe I should have to wait five minutes to change my positioning, or indeed to make a substitution. The ball goes out of play every 30/60 seconds, I should be able to make a change almost instantaneously.

**lukegjpotter** · 15-08-2008 13:13

A feature where you could ask a feeder club what kind of player(s) that they would like to get from you on loan this season, or have first preference on your loan listed players.

And coach reports where the coach recomends what a certian player should be doing for the given season.

Coach A recomends Player X be loaned out to Affilate T/League N

**S'poreBBR** · 15-08-2008 17:13

when I ask for player recommendation from my own player, he recommends someone from his own country. I will like to widen the range of players he will recommend if possible.

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