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SnakeXe's Messina - Season 22 - 2032/33
Story of the Season:
Serie A - 1st, Champions
We were in a good position coming out of the winter break, and we kept up our form in the new year, with a huge home-win over title-challengers Palermo the perfect start. A run of 5 wins from 8 (the rest being draws) was decent, but the performance in losing 1-0 at home to Lazio was not. This game saw a bizarre decision as Marco Antonio was tripped whilst shooting, the keeper parrying the shot away, and the striker reacting quickest to seemingly be about to pass into an empty net - but no, a penalty was given. Which the keeper saved, of course. Ridiculous.
Our slightly ropey form continue with narrow wins over relegation candidates Andria and Gubbio interspersed with a draw against Grosseto and a horrible loss to Napoli. That was to be the end of our bad form, though, as a 5-0 drubbing of Mantova inspired us to remain unbeaten for the rest of the season! Was that enough though?
A 5-1 win over Roma with a crucial 1-1 draw against challengers Inter left us with two games which, if we won both, would see us champions on head-to-head results over Juve at worst.
The first was against Palermo away, a very tricky tie, and we started poorly, Hector Portillo finally giving them the lead after 36 minutes. We gradually got back into the game, and although time was running short I began to think we could get something from this. Off the bench came the veteran right-winger Filippo Vitone. Gonzalez ran with the ball down the left, trying to tease a mistake out of the Palermo fullback. The mistake came, swiftly followed by the cross. It angled towards the far post. The goalkeeper came for it...
He missed it.
But what had happened elsewhere? Roma had inexplicably beaten Juve 1-0, giving us a one-point advantage going into the final match of the season, a home game against mid-table Parma. The club from the city most famous for its ham didn't have anything to play for, and it showed.
Marco Antonio struck after 6 minutes and we never looked back. It ended 4-0. Messina were champions of Italy once again!!
Coppa Italia - Winners
After finally winning the trophy after 21 years of trying last season, could we retain the trophy? We had an easy couple of games in the first round and quarter final, Udinese going down 3-0 and Serie B Livorno putting up no resistance - despite a stupid red-card for Javier - losing by the same scoreline.
Fiorentina in the semi was similarly easy, the giants being on the road that would ultimately end in relegation. We took a 2-0 lead in the away leg only to be pegged back by a stupid concession just before full time. It wasn't to matter though, as Marquinhos Parana's double set us on the way to a 3-0 win at home to make the final again!
Finally, a decent side. Palermo. We hadn't lost to them in the two league encounters this season so I was fairly confident, but you never know what will happen in a cup final.
Martinez Gonzalez struck first. Only it was in the wrong net. Still, the lad had had a superb season so I couldn't blame him over one mistake - particularly as he later atoned to make it 2-1 to us after Marco Antonio's equaliser! Palermo were strong though, and we were tired, and Fabao finished sharply with 10 minutes ago.
Extra time. Nothing happened.
Daniel Martin saved all four. Antonio and Misic scored. Champions!!!
Supercoppa - Winners
A tricky one against title-holders Inter, but we snuck it 1-0.
European Super Cup - Winners
Should have made far shorter work of Rangers than we did, but we did it eventually on penalties.
Champions League - Winners
After a poor showing the group stage, we had to lay down a marker in our first knockout round tie against Dinamo Moscow. And that we did, 4 goals each home and away to send the Russians packing!
Juventus were again our opponents in the quarters, but after the way we dispatched them last season I wasn't particularly concerned. A narrow 1-0 win at home was a decent result, even though we should really have scored 3 or 4 on the night. The away leg was a tough affair, but with Martinez Gonzalez nodding in an early away goal we were always in the driving seat, and despite Edu and Bruneau putting Juve level on all but away goals, Marquinhos Parana's goal was cushion enough to see out the game and the tie.
Porto were up in the semi final, the Portuguese side were formidable opponents, and we'd have to be on top of our game to get through. We played quite poorly in the away leg, but somehow Daniel Martin held firm whilst Marco Antonio and Martinez Gonzalez yet again gave us a remarkable 2-0 win!
One foot in the final is what I thought - surely we'll play better at home? We didn't. Mwaba gave Porto the lead after 28 minutes, and we struggled to hold back the flow of horrible yellow away shirts. Things got worse as Arnautovic got himself sent off and suspended for the final with a stupid second yellow. Fortunately, Marco Antonio was in irrepressible mood, and scored a fantastic solo goal to ease the pressure. Arriola got another for Porto in the 88th minute to ensure a worrisome ending for me, but we held out for a fourth successive final!
Barcelona awaited yet again - imagine how many Champions Leagues they might have won had we never showed up? My lineup was pretty much dictated to me by injuries and form, the headline news being Marco Antonio getting the nod up front, Vitone starting on the right, Sanchez instead of the unfit Vega, and Kooiman on the bench in favour of Egger and Martinez Gonzalez.
Things started badly, as Russo gave the Catalans the lead after just 8 minutes. Sanchez justified my faith on 16 minutes, though, slotting home his 6th goal of the season to level things up. And that's the way it stayed in a very even first half. The second half was much of the same, both sides going close but neither able to provide a winner.
Extra time was dull.
Penalties again. Could we win our third shootout of the season?
Not if Barcelona had anything to do with it. All 5 of their penalties found the mark. Fortunately, so did ours, Antonio, Misic, Mikhailov, Juarez and Sanchez keeping their heads. Kooiman also kept his for the 6th. It was all on Barcelona's Assane Sow. He shot to the left. Martin dived to the left. He punched the ball away. Out of the goal.
Clean sweep!! 4-times champions of Europe!! Absolutely ridiculous!
Club World Championship - Winners
Two games, 8 goals, 1 easy trophy.
Results 1 - Results 2 - Results 3 - Results 4 - Squad
Transfers - £12.9m Loss
Again, this screen seems to be screwed since the patch so calculators out! On the ins were three players for the future, in Marquinhos Parana, Enrique Lala and Fernando, with an old legend in Walter Aguero leaving after all these years the only out for any money.
5 Most Important Players:
5. All Our Strikers - ST - Couldn't choose the between the three of them, they all chipped in at various points, Marquinhos Parana with an excellent 15 goals from 19 starts in his debut year in Italy. I'm slightly concerned about Arguelles as he finished the season poorly - hopefully his time isn't up at this level.
4. Nauzet Martinez Gonzalez - DC - Has progressed from fourth choice to indisputable number one at centrehalf in just two seasons - cracking player.
3. Walter Gonzalez - AMLC - Another excellent season for the Argentinean international, in double figures for goals and assists.
2. Igor Mikhailov - AMRC - Wow, so that's what he's capable of! 20 assists and 6 goals is a phenomenal return from the converted winger, and to think he still missed gilt-edged chances with abandon...
1. Jose Luis Vega - AMC - The creative hub of our team, although he got fewer assists than usual this season, his probing passing and intelligent movement created the space for Mikhailov, Gonzalez and the strikers to do the damage.
Code:Season League Position Achievements ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2011/12 Serie C2/C 2nd Serie C Cup Runners Up, Playoff Finalists 2012/13 Serie C2/C 1st Serie C2/C Champions, Promoted 2013/14 Serie C1/B 5th Playoff Semi-Finalists 2014/15 Serie C1/B 2nd Playoff Winners, Promoted 2015/15 Serie B 12th 2016/17 Serie B 2nd Promoted 2017/18 Serie A 20th Relegated 2018/19 Serie B 2nd Promoted 2019/20 Serie A 7th Qualified for Europa League 2020/21 Serie A 6th Qualified for Europa League 2021/22 Serie A 9th 2022/23 Serie A 5th Qualified for Europa League 2023/24 Serie A 3rd Qualified for Champions League, Coppa Italia Runners Up 2024/25 Serie A 4th Qualified for Champions League, Coppa Italia Runners Up 2025/26 Serie A 4th Qualified for Champions League 2026/27 Serie A 4th Qualified for Champions League 2027/28 Serie A 3rd Qualified for Champions League 2028/29 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, Coppa Italia Runners Up 2029/30 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, Champions League Winners 2030/31 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, Champions League Winners, CWC Winners 2031/32 Serie A 3rd Champions League Winners, Coppa Italia Winners, CWC Winners 2032/33 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, Champions League Winners, Coppa Italia Winners, CWC Winners
Messina 100 Club:
A list of those Messina players who make 100 or more appearances for the club under my management.
Next Season:Code:Name Pos Era Apps Goals AvR -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rene Kooiman DC 2019-Present 584 75 7.16 Filippo Vitone AMRC 2018-Present 521 119 7.13 Jose A. Loureiro DR 2020-Present 429 3 7.20 Jon Pagola AMLC 2019-Present 415 78 7.20 Walter Aguero AM/ST 2021-2032 414 146 7.06 Victor Amoruso MC 2018-2029 380 33 6.98 Mauro Quiroga DM/MC 2019-2031 372 17 6.96 Abel Petrillo AML/ST 2016-2031 366 153 7.13 Daniel Martin GK 2027-Present 285 0 7.00 Stefano Tulino D/DM/MRC 2019-2030 274 17 7.12 Joaquin Arguelles AM/ST 2025-Present 259 162 7.28 Nenad Arnautovic DM/MC 2025-Present 254 27 6.98 Jose D/WB/M/AML 2026-Present 242 3 7.07 Mauro Vigorito GK 2011-2023 217 0 6.82 Walter Gonzalez AMLC 2026-Present 214 32 7.08 Javier AMR 2025-Present 213 27 7.00 Philipp Egger DC 2023-Present 211 28 7.17 Juan Jose Godoy GK 2023-2027 207 0 6.96 Jose Luis Vega AMC 2028-Present 205 23 7.22 Patxi Rodriguez DM/MC 2017-2026 203 14 6.87 Nenad Lukic MLC 2021-2026 188 23 6.98 Mauricio Martin D/DM/MC 2020-2027 187 9 6.96 Nicolas Amodio DM/MC 2012-2018 183 12 6.93 Remi Thouvenin DL 2021-2026 181 0 7.06 Antonio Marino DLC 2013-2021 180 5 6.88 Da Silva DC 2027-Present 183 15 7.10 Sergio Real ST 2024-2030 174 31 6.87 Adem Ljajic AMRLC 2019-2027 170 26 6.91 Mario Ortiz DM/MC 2013-2021 169 5 6.83 Celso DM/MC 2025-2030 169 9 6.95 Nicola Ravaglia GK 2018-2025 164 0 6.90 Enzo Scorza ST 2012-2018 159 82 7.24 Nicolas D/DM/MC 2015-2022 159 5 6.85 Julian Juarez AML 2029-Present 153 23 7.10 Antonio Gola DM/MC 2028-Present 149 7 7.05 Rocco Signore D/WBR 2022-Present 146 0 7.05 Rosario Licata D/WB/ML 2011-2016 146 3 6.92 Francesc Alcalde AMLC/ST 2014-2020 145 45 6.98 Igor Mikhailov AMRC 2029-Present 142 23 7.13 Luca Tedeschi DC 2012-2018 139 8 7.09 Mogi DRC 2017-2022 134 0 6.76 Jose Maria DL 2028-Present 128 1 7.20 Diego Farias AMRLC 2015-2019 126 19 6.90 Gonzalo Valdez ST 2022-2026 126 34 6.87 Davide Testa AM/ST 2011-2015 121 40 7.04 Yohann Sallaberry AMLC 2021-2028 117 10 7.01 Bartul Misic DM/MC 2030-Present 116 8 7.16 Nauzet M. Gonzalez DC 2029-Present 110 18 7.18 Ruben AML 2015-2019 103 7 6.86 Fausto Rossi AML 2016-2021 102 18 6.97
Well how do you follow that? I'd settle for retaining the Serie A title and adding at least one of the important cups. I don't think we've got it in us to go unbeaten yet, but with the potential of this team it could well happen in the next three or four years as the likes of Vega, Marquinhos Parana, Marco Antonio, Walter Gonzalez and Nauzet Martinez Gonzalez mature.
The big question for the summer is whether to offer Rocco Signore, Jon Pagola and Filippo Vitone new contracts. I'm leaning towards yes on Vitone, but the other two I'll have to think about. Pagola showed he's still useful with his four outings this season producing two goals, whilst Signore had an average of 7.30 from his four. However, they did just make four each. Tough one.
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What a season!
What was the key difference between this season and the last one SnakeXe?
Winning the European Cup on home soil must have been pretty sweet.
Ive lurked here for quite a while but ive decided I should tell you what a fantastic read this is. Keep it up.
So that's Aguero and Petrillo gone now.....
Only Arguelles left of that magical strike trio
A fantastic season there even if you did rely on the luck of penalties for most of your trophies
The two we didn't pick up last season were the European Super Cup and Serie A. In the Super Cup we played Rangers instead of Liverpool, so that was far easier, whilst in the league we got around the same points total whilst Inter and Juve regressed. The stars just aligned I guess!
Actually I'm only half-joking to be honest, we've got a fantastic record in shootouts over the last 2 and a bit seasons, so it can't be luck that we keep winning them.
winning for fun lol
Congratulations on the domination
Cracking season, good to see a team with plenty of bottle when it comes to penalties. Well done!
Quick question for those of you who have long-term saves on 11.3 - are you also having issues with home-grown classifications? My players (such as Juarez) who have achieved home-grown status since I patched up don't appear to count as such in the squad selection screen for the Champions League. This is really starting to irritate as I've had to leave players like Loureiro, Javier, Pagola and Arguelles out of my latest squad in order to have a balanced squad that the selector will accept. Eventually I'm going to have to start buying under-21 players every season to make up the shortfall!
The Squad: 2033
Daniel Martin - GK - Argentina - Should be right in his prime now. Him winning us two trophies by saving every penalty he faced in the shootouts last season suggests he is.
Juan Carlos - GK - Spain - Got well into double figures for appearances last year, long may that continue.
Jose Alberto Loureiro - DR - Italy - Still very good, but no longer the rampaging force of nature that he was and Aramaio is.
Rocco Signore - D/WBR - Italy - His home-grown status earned him another contract given the bug I'm experiencing.
Javier Aramaio - DR - Spain - First choice ahead of Loureiro, but is almost getting on himself now.
Jose - D/WB/M/AML - Spain - Probably have to move him on soon if Quinonez is to progress properly.
Jose Maria - DL - Spain - Excellent player.
Carlos Quinonez - DL - Spain - Had some fairly ridiculous offers for him over the summer from Standard Liege, rising up to about £12m. Was tempted to sell, but Jose isn't long for top-class football so I'd rather hang on to him.
Rene Kooiman - DC - Holland - No longer the undisputed first choice he once was, but a key squad member nonetheless.
Philipp Egger - DC - Austria - His athleticism is always handy.
Da Silva - DC - Brazil - Does well whenever required.
Nauzet Martinez Gonzalez - DC - Spain - First choice now.
Filippo Vitone - AMRC - Italy - Still an important component of the squad.
Javier - AMR - Spain - His energy is always useful in the latter stages of the season.
Jon Pagola - AMLC - Spain - Decided he deserved another contract. Only useful as a substitute these days, but his cameos can be match-winning.
Walter Gonzalez - AMLC - Argentina - He, Vega and Mikhailov directly contributed over 60 goals last season.
Julian Juarez - AML - Spain - Good backup for Gonzalez. Could have been so much more.
Antonio Gola - DM/MC - Italy - Just about eased Arnautovic out as first choice alongside Misic now.
Bartul Misic - DM/MC - Croatia - Fan's player of the year last year, and one of the first names on the team-sheet.
Nenad Arnautovic - DM/MC - Serbia - His driving runs from midfield are less frequent as he gets older, but still highly effective when used sparingly.
Agustin Lertxundi - DM/MC - Spain - I often forget how good he is. Probably should give him more time in the bigger matches this season.
Fernando - DM/MC - Spain - Has made his debut, but a disappointing loan spell at Fenerbahce concerns.
Jose Luis Vega - M/AMC - Spain - Slightly below par last season by his standards, but still our key man.
Igor Mikhailov - M/AMRC - Russia - Finally announced himself as a right-sided player last season with 20 assists.
Gustavo Sanchez - M/AMC - Argentina - £26.5m was the highest bid for the Argentine this summer. He's good, but that good? I'd still rather keep him though.
Joaquin Arguelles - AMC/ST - Spain - Very nearly sold him in the summer, but he's such a legend I couldn't bring myself to do it.
Marco Antonio - AMC/ST - Brazil - Finally usurped Arguelles as top dog towards the end of last season, cracking player.
Marquinhos Parana - ST - Brazil - Terrific debut season last year, his technique and strength make him a great player to bring on if the opposition are defending deep.
Enrique Lala - ST - France - Scored goals for fun at Nice on loan in the second half of last season, with a 1 in 2 record. Needs games, hopefully we'll be playing well enough that I can offer him them here, if not then he may end up on loan again in January.
Ricardo Rocha - GK - Portugal - As Juan Carlos and Daniel Martin are pretty immovable in front of him, I decided to sell him on to Benfica for a nice profit plus a slice of his next fee.
The squad is still excellent quality, as the youngsters step up impressively to replace the elder statesmen. I probably need to bring in another young centreback in the next season or two since Da Silva, Egger and Kooiman are the wrong side of 30. Hopefully Fernando can step up in defensive midfield as well, as Arnautovic's career winds down.
That is a very nice squad you have there! pity about your ageing stars but they still seem good enough to get starts and perform well.
**** me, what a season.
Only 4 Italians?
5 now, as Da Silva is a naturalised Italian international. But still a bit pathetic. I seem to get all my prospects from Spain and South America! My academy is getting better every season, although my best prospects each season are still rated just 1.5 stars at the moment.
I think the lack of a reserve league in Italy makes it more difficult to develop youngsters for all teams, might have to investigate the co-ownership lark a little more, as I think a club would probably invest more into progressing a young talent if they own half of him. Making sure I have a nice low buy-back clause, of course
Nobby, you should start a new thread: 'Love Tips for FM Addicts'.
Ahh she's happy, I just sit on the sofa with her whilst she watches Snog, Marry, Avoid and stuff like that
When she asks a question are you sure to go "mhum"? If not you're not paying attention, they don't like that :P
How long have we had new smilies?
Much better than the old ones.
Bit random that I've picked your thread to announce this in SnakeXe but I've only just noticed!
This one does look like the green person is having a poo though ---->
Just to let you all know not to expect an update until after 19th April - my dissertation deadline
Although I'll probably slack off and play a bit of FM anyway
RL comes first
Good luck SnakeXe!
Real life does suck arse sometimes.
Amen Nobby. Amen.
Does anything suck arse as much as cups though?
On my Saints save, I believe that the Champions League sucks major arse!
Finished and handed in this morning - one day early
I had to do my dissertation 12 years ago. In my first draft I wrote around 20,000 words. I had to cut it in half!
Congrats SnakeXe. Let's have more Messina adventures please!
Great read and adventure with Messina. Fantastic career thats had it all, keep it up
Season 23: Winter Break Update
Palermo in the Supercoppa were the first order of business, and two goals from Julian Juarez were enough for a 2-1 win to retain the trophy. Besiktas contested the European Super Cup, but couldn't get near us as we won 3-0, a brace from Antonio and an Arguelles penalty taking care of business.
The league campaign started fantastically with a 5-0 destruction of Udinese dispelling any fears of a repeat of our goal-shy efforts of the last two years. Pescara nicked a draw off us before Napoli inflicted our first defeat, but that was to be one of just two before the end of the year (the other against Juve). Since two successive 0-0s against Andria and Catania accounted for our only other dropped points you could say it's been a decent start! We're sat nicely in 2nd place, 1 point behind Palermo but with 2 games in hand.
A really tricky Champions League group this year - Spurs and Atletico Madrid were both solid sides, with FC Basel the mandatory walking 3-points. A sneaky 2-0 win over Atletico in Spain was a great start, but was followed by a disappointing 1-1 draw at home to Spurs. We got back into the swing of things with a 5-0 and 3-1 double-header win over Basel. Atletico visited San Filippo next, and were absolutely spanked back to Madrid with their tails between their legs - 7-1! Spurs could still win the group if they beat us at White Hart Lane, so we sent a strong side. Despite going 2-0 down to a header from a corner and a mishit cross, we stormed back to take it 3-2, creating 8 CCCs along the way! Real Madrid are up next, a tricky draw.
And so to the World Club Championship! In the semi-final this year we met Sydney FC, who put up a surprisingly good fight against our backups, but eventually went down 2-0 to goals from Lertxundi and Lala. Internacional should have been a sterner test in the final. They weren't. 4 goals from Marquinhos Parana were added to by Gonzalez and Mikhailov, plus an own goal, for a massive 7-0 thumping!
- Igor Mikhailov has been fantastic
- All the strikers are scoring quite well
- We're very well positioned in the league
- Arnautovic seems to be a little too far over the hill now
- Javier and Vitone's poor form means we're over reliant on Mikhailov
- The successive 0-0s against Andria and Catania were poor
Results 1 - Results 2 - League Table - Squad
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Just finished the season, will post the update tomorrow, off for my beauty sleep now (not that I need it ).
Oh the excitement! :P
SnakeXe's Messina - Season 23 - 2033/34
Story of the Season:
Serie A - 1st, Champions
A great first half of the season saw just two defeats - narrow 1-0s away to Napoli and Juventus, so we were feeling confident coming into 2034.
We opened the year with a battling 1-1 draw away to fierce rivals Palermo - a result that would later become important! Another 1-1 away to Udinese followed, before we registered our first league win of the year with a 5-1 home destruction of Grosseto. Good form continued until a disappointing 1-0 loss at home to Gubbio, a game where many of our second-choice players completely fluffed their lines.
A great 2-1 win over AC Milan was then sandwiched with bum gravy by a terrible 2-2 draw away at Andria Bat. Although a mid-table side this season, we really should beat clubs of their stature. Winning ways returned briefly, before another shocking result, a 2-1 home loss to Reggina - a side who only escaped relegation by 5 points. A massive 1-0 win over Juve was cancelled out by an unfathomable 2-1 loss to as-good-as-relegated Bologna.
This left us a point behind Palermo with 3 to play. We face Lazio (h), Inter (a), and finally Palermo (h) themselves. With our fellow Sicilians in good form, we probably needed to win all three to take the title.
An excellent performance against Lazio deserved more than the 1-0 win we claimed via a Marco Antonio special, but the points were all that mattered. Inter were, I felt, the biggest test of the three. And so they proved, hammering our goal for 90 mins. We had chances of our own, but in the end a 0-0 draw was probably a good result for us given how the game went.
As Palermo won both their games as well, the two dropped points, leaving us 3 behind, actually didn't make much difference to what we needed to do. Thanks to our 1-1 draw against Palermo earlier in the season, any win would give us the title, anything else would not be good enough - just as it would have been had we beaten Inter.
I sent out the strongest team I could amongst the tatters of our horrendous travails with injury. The normal back 5 was almost all there - Aramaio was injured so Rocco Signore joined the usual Martin - Kooiman - Martinez Gonzalez - Jose Maria wall of strength.
In defensive midfield I had no option but to play a half-fit Lertxundi alongside the inexperienced Fernando - every other player who could play there was injured.
Our regular wingers, Mikhailovic and Gonzalez, were thankfully available, but with neither Sanchez nor Vega available Marco Antonio dropped into the playmaker role, leaving Marquinhos Parana up front.
The game started at a canter, the teams trading long shots and tough tackles. In the 19th minute we got a corner. Marco Antonio whipped it in right-footed. Martinez Gonzalez rose in the 6-yard box to crash a header past the keeper and open the scoring!
All going to plan so far - and that continued as Rene Kooiman nodded in from a set piece to score the 2000th goal of my reign! The perfect player to get it in the perfect match as far as I'm concerned!
Just after half-time we were in dreamland as the youngster Fernando rifled in a 30-yard drive - just his second goal for the club - to put things surely beyond Palermo!
They did well to stem the tide of our attacks, and even created a few chances of their own, but they came to naught. Approaching the full-time whistle Marquinhos Parana turned their centre-back on the edge of the box and finished smartly to give us an unbelievable 4-0 win and the Serie A title!!
Coppa Italia - Lost in Quarter Final (v Palermo)
Having exorcised our demons in this competition with two successive triumphs, I was confident we could add a third. Our backups struggled past lowly Andria in the 1st Round, eventually claiming a 1-0 win in injury time. Palermo were up next in the Quarter Final, and after a hard-fought 2-2 draw in normal time, extra time finished goalless - another penalty shootout.
I was feeling quite confident until Marco Antonio skied our first penalty. Palermo netted their first three, whilst Misic and Sanchez made no mistake for us. Vitone then hit the post, leaving Thiago the chance to win it. Martin pulled off a fantastic save to keep us in it, but Juarez still needed to net his to put the pressure back on Palermo. He didn't.
Supercoppa - Winners
An easier-than-expected 2-1 win over Palermo.
European Super Cup - Winners
Much easier than last year - a 3-0 win over Besiktas where we didn't even break sweat.
Champions League - Lost in Semi Final (v Valencia)
When I left you last time we'd just qualified as group winners for a knockout round tie against Real Madrid. The first leg in the Bernebeu went pretty much to plan, as we nicked a 1-1 draw. The return match was a fiesty affair, with chances at either end and not a few tasty challenges. Luckily for us, our finishing was better, as we scored 4 to their 2.
Not content with one Spanish giant, we drew Barcelona in the Quarter Final. Anticipating a very tricky tie, I set up quite defensively in the home leg, with the emphasis on not conceding an away goal. Fortunately, we managed it. Mikhailov also helped out by grabbing a goal up their end, ably assisted by their centre-half Margheri, who netted an own goal near the final whistle to put us in a great position going to the Nou Camp.
We weren't taking anything for granted though - Barca at home are always formidable. Almost always, anyway.
Vega got himself sent off with a stupid, reckless lunge in the 4th minute. Oh dear.
I don't quite know what happened next, but all I do know is that it ended 5-0. To us. Unbelievable.
Yet another Spanish team waited for us in the Semi Final - this time Valencia. Again we had the home leg first, and I set up in similar fashion to against the Catalans, but this time it did not go to plan. Antonio Gola gave away a stupid penalty just before half time, which Valencia netted, leaving us with an uphill struggle. Marco Antonio eventually got one back in the 71st minute, but we couldn't get another, leaving us needing to score (probably twice) in the Nuevo Mestalla.
Things got off to a very bad start, as Aramaio repeated Gola's trick in giving away a penalty. This time, though, Juan Carlos saved it! Perhaps that was a good omen? Well, it wasn't.
We played really quite terribly, and Valencia opened the scoring after half time from a set piece. I changed as much as I could with the limited personnel at my disposal, but it wasn't enough, as they scored again with 10 minutes to go. Game over. Marco Antonio's goal in the first minute of injury time didn't even give us a chance, as the final whistle was blown seconds after kickoff. Champions League title number 5 would have to wait another year.
Club World Championship - Winners
Two games, 9 goals, 1 easy trophy.
Results 1 - Results 2 - Results 3 - Results 4 - Squad
Transfers - £3.9m Loss
Just a couple of prospects in, Raul at centre-half and Ryzhov in attacking midfield. Ricardo Rocha, third choice keeper, the only significant out at £3m plus clauses.
5 Most Important Players:
5. Jose Luis Vega - AMC - Cracked the 20-assists barrier for the fourth time in five seasons - his broken collarbone was probably the major factor in us failing to win the Champions League, and coming so close to surrendering the Serie A title.
4. Marco Antonio - AMC/ST - After last season's free-for-all scoring frenzy amongst our strikers, the young Brazil international has established himself as top dog. Performing like this makes it easier to reject bids like this.
3. Walter Gonzalez - AMLC - Fabulous player, contributing goals and assists consistently.
2. Igor Mikhailov - AMRC - His finishing is still suspect, he still picks up niggles far too often... but at some point you just have to admire a player when he's on song. And when he is, he's unplayable.
1. Nauzet Martinez Gonzalez - DC - Consistently excellent in the centre of defence, for a defender to have the highest average rating in such an attack-minded team is phenomenal. Contributed 10 of the 27 goals scored by our defenders this season.
Code:Season League Position Achievements ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2011/12 Serie C2/C 2nd Serie C Cup Runners Up, Playoff Finalists 2012/13 Serie C2/C 1st Serie C2/C Champions, Promoted 2013/14 Serie C1/B 5th Playoff Semi-Finalists 2014/15 Serie C1/B 2nd Playoff Winners, Promoted 2015/15 Serie B 12th 2016/17 Serie B 2nd Promoted 2017/18 Serie A 20th Relegated 2018/19 Serie B 2nd Promoted 2019/20 Serie A 7th Qualified for Europa League 2020/21 Serie A 6th Qualified for Europa League 2021/22 Serie A 9th 2022/23 Serie A 5th Qualified for Europa League 2023/24 Serie A 3rd Qualified for Champions League, Coppa Italia Runners Up 2024/25 Serie A 4th Qualified for Champions League, Coppa Italia Runners Up 2025/26 Serie A 4th Qualified for Champions League 2026/27 Serie A 4th Qualified for Champions League 2027/28 Serie A 3rd Qualified for Champions League 2028/29 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, Coppa Italia Runners Up 2029/30 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, Champions League Winners 2030/31 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, Champions League Winners, CWC Winners 2031/32 Serie A 3rd Champions League Winners, Coppa Italia Winners, CWC Winners 2032/33 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, Champions League Winners, Coppa Italia Winners, CWC Winners 2033/34 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, CWC Winners
Messina 100 Club:
A list of those Messina players who make 100 or more appearances for the club under my management.
Next Season:Code:Name Pos Era Apps Goals AvR -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rene Kooiman DC 2019-Present 609 79 7.17 Filippo Vitone AMRC 2018-Present 545 119 7.11 Jose A. Loureiro DR 2020-Present 443 3 7.20 Jon Pagola AMLC 2019-Present 417 78 7.20 Walter Aguero AM/ST 2021-2032 414 146 7.06 Victor Amoruso MC 2018-2029 380 33 6.98 Mauro Quiroga DM/MC 2019-2031 372 17 6.96 Abel Petrillo AML/ST 2016-2031 366 153 7.13 Daniel Martin GK 2027-Present 329 0 7.00 Joaquin Arguelles AM/ST 2025-Present 277 166 7.28 Nenad Arnautovic DM/MC 2025-Present 276 28 7.00 Stefano Tulino D/DM/MRC 2019-2030 274 17 7.12 Jose D/WB/M/AML 2026-Present 259 4 7.07 Walter Gonzalez AMLC 2026-Present 254 44 7.13 Philipp Egger DC 2023-Present 245 36 7.20 Jose Luis Vega AMC 2028-Present 237 24 7.24 Javier AMR 2025-Present 227 29 7.00 Mauro Vigorito GK 2011-2023 217 0 6.82 Da Silva DC 2027-Present 208 18 7.12 Juan Jose Godoy GK 2023-2027 207 0 6.96 Patxi Rodriguez DM/MC 2017-2026 203 14 6.87 Antonio Gola DM/MC 2028-Present 190 9 7.08 Nenad Lukic MLC 2021-2026 188 23 6.98 Julian Juarez AML 2029-Present 187 28 7.11 Mauricio Martin D/DM/MC 2020-2027 187 9 6.96 Igor Mikhailov AMRC 2029-Present 183 41 7.19 Nicolas Amodio DM/MC 2012-2018 183 12 6.93 Remi Thouvenin DL 2021-2026 181 0 7.06 Antonio Marino DLC 2013-2021 180 5 6.88 Sergio Real ST 2024-2030 174 31 6.87 Adem Ljajic AMRLC 2019-2027 170 26 6.91 Jose Maria DL 2028-Present 170 1 7.22 Mario Ortiz DM/MC 2013-2021 169 5 6.83 Celso DM/MC 2025-2030 169 9 6.95 Nicola Ravaglia GK 2018-2025 164 0 6.90 Enzo Scorza ST 2012-2018 159 82 7.24 Nicolas D/DM/MC 2015-2022 159 5 6.85 Rocco Signore D/WBR 2022-Present 151 0 7.06 Rosario Licata D/WB/ML 2011-2016 146 3 6.92 Bartul Misic DM/MC 2030-Present 145 11 7.18 Francesc Alcalde AMLC/ST 2014-2020 145 45 6.98 Nauzet M. Gonzalez DC 2029-Present 144 28 7.24 Luca Tedeschi DC 2012-2018 139 8 7.09 Marco Antonio AMC/ST 2030-Present 135 45 7.06 Mogi DRC 2017-2022 134 0 6.76 Diego Farias AMRLC 2015-2019 126 19 6.90 Gonzalo Valdez ST 2022-2026 126 34 6.87 Davide Testa AM/ST 2011-2015 121 40 7.04 Yohann Sallaberry AMLC 2021-2028 117 10 7.01 Ruben AML 2015-2019 103 7 6.86 Javier Aramaio DR 2031-Present 103 1 7.26 Fausto Rossi AML 2016-2021 102 18 6.97
Last season I said I wanted Serie A and at least one important cup - 1 out of 2 isn't bad, but I'd definitely like to regain either the Coppa Italia or Champions League this season. I do think the squad needs some improvement now - although I couldn't seriously have planned for 5 of my first 6 choice central midfielders being injured at once, there are serious gaps in the squad. A new right winger needs finding, and I could do with another quick striker - Marquinhos Parana is many things, but quick he is not.
Last edited by SnakeXe; 01-05-2011 at 13:40.
Unlucky with the injuries this season, but still did well to win the league.
How are you finding the quality of the regens coming through? Is it more difficult to track down and buy decent players? Are the stats all in the right place or are you having to do a lot of retraining?
The quality and stat-spread of newgens is definitely the best it's been on any FM since the switch from regens. I've done some retraining (notably Mikhailov), but it's realistic stuff. In Mikhailov's case he was wasted in my playmaker role because his major strengths were athleticism and dribbling - much more suited to a wide role in my system.
Finding players to buy isn't really that tricky, my scouts chuck up a couple that interest me every so often, and if they're the right price (both in terms of transfer fee and wages), age and ability then I sign them up. I don't tend to go for established players since they want huge wages - which I've been very careful to avoid. My highest earner is still only on £45,000pw, and I've managed to stick to that without losing one player specifically because of it.
That's good to know, especially as you're so far into the save now I remember in previous years you be cursed with strikers who couldn't finish and centre back who couldn't jump etc when you got 20+ years into the game.
Yeah definitely - on FM10 around 25 seasons in my centrebacks would regularly get 20+ goals per season simply because they were members of the select group that could jump - and hence completely cleaned up on set pieces!
They did lie about the £207m loan though, only took £86m, the rest came out of our very healthy bank balance - still got £50m left!
Awesome news SnakeXe. Delighted for you!
Cheers crouchy can't wait to move in!
Nice one Snake.
The Squad: 2034
Daniel Martin - GK - Argentina - Reasonable season last time. Could have done better probably. Still a great keeper.
Juan Carlos - GK - Spain - Great backup, couldn't ask for anything more.
Jose Alberto Loureiro - DR - Italy - Really lost something last season, this contract is almost certainly his last. Still gets a game for Italy, shockingly enough.
Rocco Signore - D/WBR - Italy - In his 12th year at the club now, part of the furniture.
Javier Aramaio - DR - Spain - Excellent attacking fullback. Hopefully he'll keep going at this level a good 3 or 4 years now.
Jose - D/WB/M/AML - Spain - His contract is up at the end of the season. He's on a lot of money considering his stature in the squad. Here's your chance, Quinonez.
Jose Maria - DL - Spain - Really kicked on as an attacking fullback now.
Carlos Quinonez - DL - Spain - Time to start blooding this youngster who has been filed under "promising" for about 3 years now.
Rene Kooiman - DC - Holland - His stats may be declining, but the level of performance is still good.
Philipp Egger - DC - Austria - Had a great season last time, but surely coming to the end of his career now.
Da Silva - DC - Italy - Always relatively solid, he's a bit enigmatic - I'm never sure how good he really is.
Nauzet Martinez Gonzalez - DC - Spain - Fantastic player, our key man at the back.
Raul - DC - Spain - Signed in January, spent the second half of last season on loan, looks like first-team material.
Filippo Vitone - AMRC - Italy - Rewarded with a new contract after starting last season well, his form nosedived. Hopefully it was a consequence of my backups playing rubbish frequently, rather than a cause.
Walter Gonzalez - AMLC - Argentina - Another brilliant season last time around from Gonzalez, hope he keeps it up.
Julian Juarez - AML - Spain - Excellent backup.
Carlos Roldan - AMLC - Argentina - I'm converting him to a right sided winger, so will provide cover right across the attacking midfield.
Antonio Gola - DM/MC - Italy - Dependable player.
Bartul Misic - DM/MC - Croatia - We really missed him when he picked up a severe injury last season, hopefully he'll come back at the same level.
Nenad Arnautovic - DM/MC - Serbia - Disappointed me last season. His career with us may be coming to a close.
Agustin Lertxundi - DM/MC - Spain - A very capable third choice behind Gola and Misic.
Fernando - DM/MC - Spain - Did far better than expected when he got a run of games due to severe injury problems. I've included him over Arnautovic in the Champions League squad, let's hope he repays the faith.
Jose Luis Vega - M/AMC - Spain - The one player I really couldn't bear to part with.
Igor Mikhailov - M/AMRC - Russia - Has been in sensational form for a couple of seasons now - but I still feel like there's more to come.
Gustavo Sanchez - M/AMC - Argentina - Excellent backup for our key player.
Oleg Ryzhov - M/AMC - Russia - Talented young playmaker brought in in January.
Joaquin Arguelles - AMC/ST - Spain - Didn't play much last season, he's finished as a lone striker in my system unfortunately. Might have a future as playmaker, we'll see.
Marco Antonio - AMC/ST - Brazil - I've been fighting off £50m bids for him this summer - we don't need the money even with the new stadium build, but we sure do need him!
Marquinhos Parana - ST - Brazil - Was expecting slightly more from him last year, but never mind, he's got time on his side.
Enrique Lala - ST - France - Couldn't give him enough games really, but he did well occasionally - even if 4 of his 6 goals came against Champions League group whipping boys FC Basel.
Javier - AMR - Spain - Wasn't particularly planning on selling him, but a £6m offer from Napoli was too good to turn down for a very average player.
Jon Pagola - AMLC - Spain - The great old former captain finally retired. A true Messina legend.
We all know that our first-team is as good as it's ever been, but the backups needed to be better than last season in order to give them enough rest to perform as they can in the latter stages of the Champions League. Hopefully Raul and Carlos Roldan will add some much needed quality to our second-string, and improvement from the likes of Lala, Ryzhov and Fernando should further boost their capabilities.
Looking to the next season or two, the defensive midfield looks to be the area we'll struggle in. Arnautovic is pretty much finished, Lertxundi and Gola will start to decline in the next season or two, so we'll just be left with Misic and Fernando. Definitely an area to make signings in where possible.
Season 24: Winter Break Update
The season kicked off with the Supercoppa as usual, this year's opponents were Grosseto. We absolutely dominated them, but couldn't seem to shake them off, and they twice equalised to take the game to penalties. Unfortunately we continue to have appeared to use up all our luck in shootouts in the clean-sweep season, losing 5-4, Mikhailov the culprit.
Still, we put that behind us nice and quickly with a 7-2 thumping of Udinese in the first match of the league season, Marco Antonio starting as he meant to go on - 15 goals in 14 starts by the winter break. We continued to win the first 4 league games, before a brace of 0-0s against midtable teams took the shine off.
Three more wins followed to put us back on track, before our unbeaten run came to an end with a really disappointing 1-0 home loss to Inter. Like the Supercoppa, we really bossed the game but couldn't finish. This was followed by an inexplicable 3-1 loss away to Pescara. We were 1-0 up and cruising before keeper Juan Carlos decided to throw in two and let a third past him in the space of 10 minutes. We came back at them, but couldn't get the ball in the net - a familiar tale.
A run of 5 wins exorcised those demons, before we closed out the year with a slightly poor 1-1 draw away at Roma, to leave us 2 points behind leaders Inter.
In the Champions League, we got a reasonable group, with Atletico Madrid, Monaco, and our feeder club Young Boys. We started badly, with a really weird match against Atletico at home that ended 3-3. We got back on track with a narrow win over Young Boys away, before winning both in the double header against Monaco. A 0-0 against Atletico in Madrid left us needing just a point from Young Boys at home to go through - a point we duly got, somehow managing again to pluck a draw from the clutches of defeat, which was in turn snatched from the jaws of victory. Weird.
Really tough draw next, last year's runners up Lyon. We always seem to get a tricky one at this stage - might have to have a word with UEFA
- Marco Antonio's form has been outstanding
- Raul has come in and done well
- We're doing well to hang on to an Inter side in great form
- The defence has been very poor - Kooiman and Egger seem to suddenly be finished
- Mikhailov and Gonzalez have been relatively disappointing
- Arsenal-like profligacy in front of goal on occasions
Results 1 - Results 2 - League Table - Squad 1 - Squad 2
Looking tight at the top Snake. Tough Champions League draw too.
Yeah could be a tricky year for us. Haven't failed to pick up a trophy for 6 years now - could that sequence end? Hope not!
SnakeXe's Messina - Season 24 - 2034/35
Story of the Season:
Serie A - 1st, Champions
We entered 2035 in second place, hanging onto a rampant Inter's coattails. We started as we meant to continue, with a stunning 5-1 demolition of Grosseto, who had earlier deprived us of this year's Supercoppa. 6 more wins followed, as the goals flowed, before a 2-2 home draw to Napoli ended the streak.
That clearly affected us, as debutant Jesus Jimenez let the pressure get to him in the next game, getting sent off in the process of giving a penalty away to gift the game to Gubbio. We came back swinging, though, smashing Fiorentina 7-0 with 7 different goalscorers!
Another 5 wins followed, before Jesus Jimenez repeated his trick of getting sent off - but not before Jose Maria had done it himself, leaving 9 men to cling on to Bartul Misic's opener against Reggina. We very nearly did it, but eventually succumbed to a belter from 30 yards to leave with a 1-1 draw. We won the next two, though leaving us needing just one win from the last 3 games to take the title.
That win came in the very next game against Grosseto, goals either side of half time securing a third successive Serie A crown!
Coppa Italia - Lost in Quarter Final (v Grosseto)
A Joaquin Arguelles hattrick saw us through the first round against Sassuolo 5-0, but Grosseto continued their good form over us in knockout competition with a penalty shootout success after a 1-1 draw.
Supercoppa - Runners Up (v Grosseto)
Lost on penalties after a 2-2 draw.
Champions League - Lost in First Knockout Round (v Lyon)
After qualifying in rather lackluster fashion from a relatively easy group, we hoped to kick into gear against last year's runners up, Lyon. The away leg was first, and we really struggled. Lyon were strong in the tackle, quick to close down, and incisive in the passing - everything but the finishing, fortunately, as we managed to hang on to only lose 1-0.
I hoped we'd put in a better showing at home, and we did, being the better team. However, Lyon brought their shooting boots this time, scoring both their chances to take an unassailable 2-0 lead, despite a consolation from Da Silva.
Results 1 - Results 2 - Results 3 - Squad 1 - Squad 2
Transfers - £25.1m Loss
Only Javier left, for a £6m fee. On the ins came Carlos Roldan, a tricky winger/attacking midfielder, Jesus Jimenez, a young right back, and for a record £20m fee, Mohammed Benali, a 17-year old defensive midfielder with leading star potential.
5 Most Important Players:
5. Igor Mikhailov - AMRC - Not his best season for us, but he was the best of the rest of our attacking midfielders, who all did quite well.
4. Jose Luis Vega - AMC - Just one short of his bench-mark of 20 assists, but still a great season.
3. Javier Aramaio - DR - The pick of a defence that performed excellently in the second half of the season - pre-Christmas wobbliness notwithstanding.
2. Bartul Misic - DM/MC - Came back flying from a serious injury last season and really gave our midfield the drive and bite it lacked.
1. Marco Antonio - AMC/ST - 27 goals in the league was the best in a long time for a player at our club, but worryingly he got none in 6 games in Europe - maybe explaining why we went out so early.
Code:Season League Position Achievements ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2011/12 Serie C2/C 2nd Serie C Cup Runners Up, Playoff Finalists 2012/13 Serie C2/C 1st Serie C2/C Champions, Promoted 2013/14 Serie C1/B 5th Playoff Semi-Finalists 2014/15 Serie C1/B 2nd Playoff Winners, Promoted 2015/15 Serie B 12th 2016/17 Serie B 2nd Promoted 2017/18 Serie A 20th Relegated 2018/19 Serie B 2nd Promoted 2019/20 Serie A 7th Qualified for Europa League 2020/21 Serie A 6th Qualified for Europa League 2021/22 Serie A 9th 2022/23 Serie A 5th Qualified for Europa League 2023/24 Serie A 3rd Qualified for Champions League, Coppa Italia Runners Up 2024/25 Serie A 4th Qualified for Champions League, Coppa Italia Runners Up 2025/26 Serie A 4th Qualified for Champions League 2026/27 Serie A 4th Qualified for Champions League 2027/28 Serie A 3rd Qualified for Champions League 2028/29 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, Coppa Italia Runners Up 2029/30 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, Champions League Winners 2030/31 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, Champions League Winners, CWC Winners 2031/32 Serie A 3rd Champions League Winners, Coppa Italia Winners, CWC Winners 2032/33 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, Champions League Winners, Coppa Italia Winners, CWC Winners 2033/34 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions, CWC Winners 2034/35 Serie A 1st Serie A Champions
Messina 100 Club:
A list of those Messina players who make 100 or more appearances for the club under my management.
Next Season:Code:Name Pos Era Apps Goals AvR -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rene Kooiman DC 2019-Present 618 80 7.17 Filippo Vitone AMRC 2018-Present 561 123 7.11 Jose A. Loureiro DR 2020-Present 448 3 7.20 Jon Pagola AMLC 2019-2034 417 78 7.20 Walter Aguero AM/ST 2021-2032 414 146 7.06 Victor Amoruso MC 2018-2029 380 33 6.98 Mauro Quiroga DM/MC 2019-2031 372 17 6.96 Daniel Martin GK 2027-Present 370 0 7.00 Abel Petrillo AML/ST 2016-2031 366 153 7.13 Joaquin Arguelles AM/ST 2025-Present 289 176 7.28 Walter Gonzalez AMLC 2026-Present 287 52 7.15 Nenad Arnautovic DM/MC 2025-Present 279 28 7.00 Stefano Tulino D/DM/MRC 2019-2030 274 17 7.12 Jose Luis Vega AMC 2028-Present 269 28 7.25 Jose D/WB/M/AML 2026-Present 267 6 7.07 Philipp Egger DC 2023-Present 251 38 7.20 Da Silva DC 2027-Present 232 24 7.14 Javier AMR 2025-2034 227 29 7.00 Antonio Gola DM/MC 2028-Present 225 9 7.09 Mauro Vigorito GK 2011-2023 217 0 6.82 Igor Mikhailov AMRC 2029-Present 214 49 7.20 Julian Juarez AML 2029-Present 210 29 7.11 Juan Jose Godoy GK 2023-2027 207 0 6.96 Patxi Rodriguez DM/MC 2017-2026 203 14 6.87 Jose Maria DL 2028-Present 202 1 7.24 Nenad Lukic MLC 2021-2026 188 23 6.98 Mauricio Martin D/DM/MC 2020-2027 187 9 6.96 Nicolas Amodio DM/MC 2012-2018 183 12 6.93 Remi Thouvenin DL 2021-2026 181 0 7.06 Nauzet M. Gonzalez DC 2029-Present 180 35 7.24 Antonio Marino DLC 2013-2021 180 5 6.88 Bartul Misic DM/MC 2030-Present 178 18 7.20 Sergio Real ST 2024-2030 174 31 6.87 Marco Antonio AMC/ST 2030-Present 170 73 7.16 Adem Ljajic AMRLC 2019-2027 170 26 6.91 Mario Ortiz DM/MC 2013-2021 169 5 6.83 Celso DM/MC 2025-2030 169 9 6.95 Nicola Ravaglia GK 2018-2025 164 0 6.90 Enzo Scorza ST 2012-2018 159 82 7.24 Nicolas D/DM/MC 2015-2022 159 5 6.85 Rocco Signore D/WBR 2022-Present 154 0 7.06 Rosario Licata D/WB/ML 2011-2016 146 3 6.92 Francesc Alcalde AMLC/ST 2014-2020 145 45 6.98 Gustavo Sanchez AMC 2031-Present 142 14 6.97 Javier Aramaio DR 2031-Present 140 1 7.28 Luca Tedeschi DC 2012-2018 139 8 7.09 Mogi DRC 2017-2022 134 0 6.76 Diego Farias AMRLC 2015-2019 126 19 6.90 Gonzalo Valdez ST 2022-2026 126 34 6.87 Davide Testa AM/ST 2011-2015 121 40 7.04 Agustin Lertxundi DM/MC 2031-Present 119 2 7.05 Yohann Sallaberry AMLC 2021-2028 117 10 7.01 Ruben AML 2015-2019 103 7 6.86 Fausto Rossi AML 2016-2021 102 18 6.97
After two seasons without a proper cup in the cabinet, that definitely needs fixing next season. Other than that, the young players I've been bringing in over the last few seasons could do with some more game time - in particular Quinonez, Benali and Ryzhov look like they're close to first-team level. Quite a few first-team stalwarts of the past decade or so are leaving - Jose, Arnautovic, Kooiman, Egger and Signore are all out of contract - so they'll certainly need to step up.
Well done on the league
I didnt realise you were doing a career update thread aswell..nice to see your still having success with Messina after your Big Euro challenge, ive just started a Journeyman save but im missing Mantova to much so may make a thread soon
I suppose you could argue that Serie A is a league, not a cup :P
Last edited by SnakeXe; 03-05-2011 at 08:55.
Great season for Marco Antonio. Need to get him firing in Europe!
Still enjoying reading about this save. Keep it up SnakeXe!
I really want to make this save more interesting by going with the academy development angle, but it's taking a ridiculous amount of time to get my facilities up to top quality. Surely in the case where a club has a lot of money it should be possible to just blow a load of money on getting the best available facilities - it doesn't make sense to build them up incrementally as FM forces you to.
Yeah, I know how you feel. It's quite frustrating waiting until the end of each season for yet another upgrade. It takes so long to get the facilities up to scratch even if the money is there.I really want to make this save more interesting by going with the academy development angle, but it's taking a ridiculous amount of time to get my facilities up to top quality. Surely in the case where a club has a lot of money it should be possible to just blow a load of money on getting the best available facilities - it doesn't make sense to build them up incrementally as FM forces you to.
Hopefully they'll get there soon, it's not quite got to the point where I'm just mashing "Continue" with no thought between each game but it's not far off. I also feel a bit guilty about the Italian national side being quite terrible - probably as a consequence of the dominant side for the last 7 years barely having any Italian players, let alone developing any from the academy!Yeah, I know how you feel. It's quite frustrating waiting until the end of each season for yet another upgrade. It takes so long to get the facilities up to scratch even if the money is there.
Why has the academy intake been so poor? Have the facilities not been improved?
I've improved them as often as possible (i.e. once per season) for the last few years. Have only ever had one player through who was better than 1.5 star potential. The current status is "Good Youth Facilities + Youth Academy" and "Established Youth Recruitment". Not quite up to scratch for a leading European club yet, but finally Serie A standard at least.
Yeah, you've got to boost that up quite a bit more over the coming seasons. Shame you can only do it once a season though.
On another subject, is this your best ever FM save, would you say SnakeXe?
It's stange how it is much slower to upgrade facilities in developed countries, in Iceland I have had "Excellent" for serveral seasons now, still only "Above Average recruitment though...
Last edited by Flamers; 03-05-2011 at 19:01.
Best ever save? Well it's definitely in the top two, the other being my Merthyr save on FM10. I'm not sure I could really pick between them, they've both been great fun!
The Squad: 2035
Daniel Martin - GK - Argentina - Slightly poor form last year, hopefully it was just a blip rather than a slump. He did look back to his best in the last 10 games or so, so let's hope that continues.
Juan Carlos - GK - Spain - Continues to play second fiddle with aplomb.
Ricardo Rocha - GK - Portugal - If you were thinking "that guy sounds familiar" then you'd be right - I've resigned the young Portuguese keeper, who was available for nothing after his contract expired. Still looks a good prospect, needs games though probably.
Jose Alberto Loureiro - DR - Italy - Almost certainly his farewell season now.
Jesus Jimenez - D/WBR - Spain - Signed in January for a bargain £3.6m, he's a little card happy (2 reds in 4 appearances last season), but looks promising. Thanks to Aramaio's unexpected departure, he's also first choice.
Jose Maria - DL - Spain - Fabulous player.
Carlos Quinonez - DL - Spain - Did very, very well in his first season of first team football with us. Looking forward to seeing him develop.
Da Silva - DC - Italy - Came to the fore last season as Kooiman and Egger's age caught up with them. Is now an important experienced head in a suddenly young-looking defence.
Nauzet Martinez Gonzalez - DC - Spain - Number one centreback for the last 3 seasons now.
Raul - DC - Spain - Did pretty well in his debut season for us last year, hope he kicks on from that.
Daniel Wansi - DLC - France - £7.5m signing from Bordeaux, already looks like he could do a job having only turned 17 this month. A future Messina stalwart.
Gregoire Gauthier - DC - France - One more for now, £13.5m bringing him over from Deportivo. Could prove a bargain.
Walter Gonzalez - AMLC - Argentina - Seems to be getting itchy feet, but I keep successfully talking him out of a move.
Julian Juarez - AML - Spain - Ousted Gonzalez from the team briefly early last season but lost his spot with a bad injury.
Carlos Roldan - AMRLC - Argentina - Some genuinely outstanding performances in the back end of last season once he was comfortable at right wing really encourage me. In one game I remember in particular, he tore the left-back to shreds in the 2nd minute, causing him to hit back with a red-card worthy challenge. Then, in minute 5 he lashed in a 30 yard freekick, and finally added a smart far-post tap-in for his brace later in the half. Could be a serious player for us.
Antonio Gola - DM/MC - Italy - Solid defensive midfielder.
Bartul Misic - DM/MC - Croatia - One of the players of last season, glad he came back from his injury well.
Agustin Lertxundi - DM/MC - Spain - Probably just about ahead of Gola as Misic's partner for the moment.
Fernando - DM/MC - Spain - Off on loan this season as he'd be fifth choice.
Mohammed Benali - DM/MC - Spain - £20m for a 17-year old is a hell of a fee, but then Benali could be a hell of a player. Suffered with injuries in the back end of last season only making 6 appearances for us, but those 6 appearances were very encouraging. Could play a big part very soon, with Lertxundi and Gola both approaching their career's end.
Jose Luis Vega - M/AMC - Spain - One of my favourite ever FM players. Unfortunately seems to be a target for opposition rough-housing, as this latest injury shows.
Igor Mikhailov - M/AMRC - Russia - Was reasonably good last year, but hopefully he'll be back up to his level of the season or two before that.
Gustavo Sanchez - M/AMC - Argentina - Didn't have the best season last year, but then I was going with 2 strikers on occasion so he got fewer chances.
Oleg Ryzhov - M/AMC - Russia - Spent the second half of last season on loan and scored twice in the five appearances he made for FC Groningen. Should make a few more for us this season, I think.
Joaquin Arguelles - AMC/ST - Spain - Hit back at suggestions he was finished by hitting double figures last season - keep it up, lad.
Marco Antonio - AMC/ST - Brazil - Really exploded into form last season - needs to do the business in Europe again if he's to be regarded as a really great player though.
Marquinhos Parana - ST - Brazil - Didn't get many opportunities last season but I'm hoping to use 2 strikers a bit more this season, so he should get a few goals this time.
Enrique Lala - ST - France - Still isn't quite good enough to play as a lone striker in my system, so have sent him on loan again, this time to Marseille, hopefully to bring him up to scratch. I have a feeling it may be a question of him or Marquinhos Parana in the end, though.
Vitor Goncalves - ST - Portugal - An absolute steal at £4.5m, the proper pacey backup to Marco Antonio we've needed since Arguelles' explosiveness waned.
Rocco Signore - D/WBR - Italy - Jimenez's arrival finally sees him leave after 12 seasons.
Javier Aramaio - DR - Spain - On transfer deadline day a £28.5m bid came in from Man Utd, triggered his release fee, and he was gone. Gutted. Good fee for a 31 year old but it leaves us desperately short.
Jose - D/WB/M/AML - Spain - Just a year short of the decade with us, a great servant nonetheless. However, he had to go if Quinonez was to avoid stagnation.
Rene Kooiman - DC - Holland - Really sad to see him go - and if I'm honest I thought he'd retire when his contract with us expired. Has somewhat ironically joined PSV despite being an Ajax academy graduate. Will keep an eye out to see if he becomes a coach - he's definitely welcome back.
Philipp Egger - DC - Austria - A slightly undignified end to a great player's career, as he was really poor last season. Magnificent player for us over the years, though.
Filippo Vitone - AMRC - Italy - Really contributed in his cameos last season, which is why it was a shock when he announced his retirement, despite having a year left on his contract. I've signed him on as a coach though, naturally.
Nenad Arnautovic - DM/MC - Serbia - Despite his stats holding up quite well, his level of performance really dipped over the last couple of seasons. Sad to see him go, but not too sad. He's joined St Gallen in Switzerland.
Well it's really strange to be starting a season without Vitone and Kooiman to be honest. Two of my favourite ever FM players, Messina stalwarts for over 15 years, veterans of 1000 appearances between them. The squad looks in very good shape despite this, with Roldan and Gauthier looking like top-quality replacements for the pair.
Despite Aramaio's surprising/disappointing departure, the squad is very strong this season. It should be possible to really compete on all fronts this season, which hasn't happened in the last two.
Last edited by SnakeXe; 04-05-2011 at 09:46.
Good luck! At least that £28.5m should buy you a good player!
I don't really need the money though, that's the thing. We're starting with a kid and a pensioner at right back. As I complained when we sold Andy Carroll with 2 hours of the transfer window left, you can't stick a sack of money up front, and you sure as hell can't stick it at fullback.
Put enough money in goal and it would cover it? The best system? :P
Good league campaign and you've brought in some stunning players this year who could make the difference in the CL.
Roma finishing 17th, however is .
So, switching to two strikers this season then SnakeXe, or am I misreading your summary above?
Look what came in the post today:
How much did that set you back?
Where did you buy it etc.?
Care to help me find a Hellas Verona one!
I have one word: ebay
Maybe a pair of these for Mrs Crouchaldinho:
I noticed you don't have a photo of those pants on a real woman.
Oh he has those, they are just kept secret :P
Yeah!Couldn't find any Hellas shirts with a quick ebay/Google search... looks like you'll be buying those pants, eh?
I couldn't find any on Ebay. It's been like that for a while.
It's a shame because the new tops are awesome looking as well:
Anyway, I bet you'll be wearing the special Messina shirt whilst managing them now on FM11?
At least you can find information about your clubs...
Might have to save it for the big games, or it'll get a bit smellyAnyway, I bet you'll be wearing the special Messina shirt whilst managing them now on FM11?
Chin up, Flamers, least you can go bowling at your club!