FM 2011 Official System/Specs Thread

[we finally made it]

That's because pcspecialist also take their cut out of your money.
Also those Dells will probably have poorer mobos, case and psu.

For monitors check out Dell U2311HM.

that monitor looks nice - £200 though!!

[snootyjim]

It's an IPS rather than TN, that's where the money's going

[welshace]

hi,

got a new laptop specs are :

i5 m430@ 2.27GHz
4Gb ram
ati mobility radeon hd 5470 dedicated card

how many leagues and how many players do you think i could run ?

[coldkohmew]

http://h20386.www2.hp.com/SingaporeS...etail=P191698&

http://h20386.www2.hp.com/SingaporeS...etail=P191697&

buying for University,will use for surfing the net(mutiple tabs),football manager,watching TV,etc...
which is the better deal???
or i should get a 4GB ram laptop?

[Ishu]

that monitor looks nice - £200 though!!

Dell ST2220

[Ishu]

hi,

got a new laptop specs are :

i5 m430@ 2.27GHz
4Gb ram
ati mobility radeon hd 5470 dedicated card

how many leagues and how many players do you think i could run ?

25 - 30

[Ishu]

http://h20386.www2.hp.com/SingaporeS...etail=P191698&

http://h20386.www2.hp.com/SingaporeS...etail=P191697&

buying for University,will use for surfing the net(mutiple tabs),football manager,watching TV,etc...
which is the better deal???
or i should get a 4GB ram laptop?

http://h20386.www2.hp.com/SingaporeS...detail=P178639
This one?

Add some 4GB RAM yourself for a lot less, if you need it(You won't).

[FredTheWeatherMan]

How many leagues and players with this? Just about to build this maybe if you could suggest something further to improve potential performance. By the way it will be Overclockers to 4.5ghz

- Samsung S24A350H 24" Widescreen LED - Monitor
- Microsoft Office 2010 (3 users)
- Sony AD-7261S-0B 24x Internal DVDRWRAM SATA Black Lightscribe - Optical Drive
- Corsair TX650 V2 High Performance 650W - Power Supply
- Asus 1GB Ge-force GTX 560ti - Graphics Card
- Crucial m4 64GB 2.5" SATA-III - SSD
- Corsair 600T White Graphite Series Mid - Tower Case
- G-Skill Ripjaw x DDR3 8Gb (2x4) 1600Mhz - Ram
- Asrock Z68 PRO3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 - Motherboard
- Intel Core i7 3.4Ghz 2600k - Processor
- Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB - HDD
- Noctua NH-D14 - Fan
- Windows 7 HP 64 bit - OS

[FredTheWeatherMan]

OK how many leagues and players for this spec. I'm about to order the parts if you can suggest ways of improving FM performance please do say!

- Samsung S24A350H 24" Widescreen LED - Monitor
- Microsoft Office 2010 (3 users)
- Sony AD-7261S-0B 24x Internal DVDRWRAM SATA Black Lightscribe - Optical Drive
- Corsair TX650 V2 High Performance 650W - Power Supply
- Asus 1GB Ge-force GTX 560ti - Graphics Card
- Crucial m4 64GB 2.5" SATA-III - SSD
- Corsair 600T White Graphite Series Mid - Tower Case
- G-Skill Ripjaw x DDR3 8Gb (2x4) 1600Mhz - Ram
- Asrock Z68 PRO3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 - Motherboard
- Intel Core i7 3.4Ghz 2600k - Processor
- Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB - HDD
- Noctua NH-D14 - Fan
- Windows 7 HP 64 bit - OS

[Ishu]

Load everything.

[FredTheWeatherMan]

Would it be worth overclocking?

[asdpoo]

No and don't load really everything, because by the second season you will wait half a minute to process the day. Not to mention the initial set up of the database will take hours.
What really matters is CPU and RAM and they surpassed what FM is capable of utilizing a couple of years ago.

[Ishu]

Would it be worth overclocking?

Hell yeah. That Noctua is

[adrien-renault]

Hello,
I have a core 2 quad q9500 with 4GB of DDR2 ram and 64bit windows 7
I would like to turn into 8GB of ram.
Football manager uses 1.8GB Ram and 2 GB for Windows+other
Will football manager using more than ram?

PS: I am sorry for my english, it is bad.

[Ishu]

Hello,
I have a core 2 quad q9500 with 4GB of DDR2 ram and 64bit windows 7
I would like to turn into 8GB of ram.
Football manager uses 1.8GB Ram and 2 GB for Windows+other
Will football manager using more than ram?

PS: I am sorry for my english, it is bad.

FM can use upto 4GB RAM.

[adrien-renault]

Thank you and
the limit on the number of players will she grow?

[TJ.]

What do you think this will run Ishu?

Processor: Intel Core i5 2410M 2.3GHz (2.9GHz Turbo Boost)
RAM: 4GB DDR3 1333MHZ
Graphics: Nvidia GeForece GT 540M 1GB

(cheers for the help by the way in choosing the laptop )

[Ishu]

35 - 40

[TJ.]

Cheers Ishu

[Bobo]

Hey there, is this any good please? Acer Aspire 5742-486G50Mnkk

15.6", Core i5-480M, 6GB RAM, 500GB HDD, DVD-RW, Win 7 Home Pre (64-bit)

Thanks

[Ishu]

Hey there, is this any good please? Acer Aspire 5742-486G50Mnkk

15.6", Core i5-480M, 6GB RAM, 500GB HDD, DVD-RW, Win 7 Home Pre (64-bit)

Thanks

30

Don't buy this. Its outdated.

[Bobo]

30

Don't buy this. Its outdated.

Hey mate, thanks for the quick response.

Sorry but I can't really understand what outdated refers to. Thing is, I'm from Malta and am on a budget of 600 Euro. I thought that a core i5 with 6gb RAM would be good, but it's a good thing I have experts like you advising me then

By any chance, could you recommend something for me along that budget from www.scanmalta.com? I'm looking for a laptop for FM which I'd also take to college.

Also, just for my personal knowledge, I'd really appreciate if you could better explain what outdated refers to in regards to laptops.

Again, thanks for your time and expertise

[Ishu]

http://www.scanmalta.com/eshop/acer-...-notebook.html

Similar specs but with much better graphics.

http://www.scanmalta.com/eshop/acer-...-notebook.html
Much better but 700 bucks.

[Bobo]

http://www.scanmalta.com/eshop/acer-...-notebook.html

Similar specs but with much better graphics.

http://www.scanmalta.com/eshop/acer-...-notebook.html
Much better but 700 bucks.

Oh my, what a lovely gentleman to take your time browsing through that website for a stranger. I award you a crown :P

Hehe thanks a billion. So, from those two, I assume I should go for the more expensive one, right? I will probably stretch it that far if it has better graphics.

Also, would you recommend increasing it's RAM? Or is 4gb enough?

Thanks again.

[Ishu]

Oh my, what a lovely gentleman to take your time browsing through that website for a stranger. I award you a crown :P

Hehe thanks a billion. So, from those two, I assume I should go for the more expensive one, right? I will probably stretch it that far if it has better graphics.

Also, would you recommend increasing it's RAM? Or is 4gb enough?

Thanks again.

4GB is enough.

The expensive one has 10-15% better CPU and Graphic card.

If you want it just for FM and college (nothing intensive like video etc), the cheaper one should be fine.

[crouchaldinho]

Ishu, my new PC arrived. It's amazing! Thanks for all of your help in picking it out.

I have tested it on FM and I get 5 stars for performance and 3D. I can load a ton of leagues, which is amazing. I'm planning a big journeyman career for FM12!

Also tested on Minecraft and I can max it out, so I'm extremely happy with that too.

Not sure if I told you but in the end I went with the Intel Quad Core I5 2500 at 3.30GHz. I also went with the 8GB RAM and the NVidia Geforce GTS450.

All in all, it's a superb machine and I'm delighted so far.

[Ishu]

Congrats

[Owenbin]

How many league can this run

Acer Aspire 4752G:
Intel Core i7-2670QM Processor (Quad Core 2.2Ghz with 6MB Cache)
- 4GB of Memory
- 750GB Hard Disk
- 14 Inch HD LCD Screen
- Nvidia GeForce GT540M 2GB

[Ishu]

65 - 70

[crouchaldinho]

Congrats

Many thanks to you Ishu for all the kind words of advice and support. It really helped.

[Ishu]

Many thanks to you Ishu for all the kind words of advice and support. It really helped.

No problem mate.

[Halfpenny]

Hey, I'm hopefully going to be getting a MacBook Air 13" in the next couple of weeks. I would just like to check however if the specs aren't good enough for playing FM12? I'd prefer to go for the Air because I'm going to be carrying it around a lot but if it's not good enough I'll just go for the Pro 13". Specs are:

1.7ghz Dual Core i5
4gb RAM
128gb SSD
Intel HD 3000 Graphics.

[Ishu]

25 .

[x42bn6]

Ishu - do you know of any good sites in the UK that do high-end laptops (i7s)?

I only know of Dell (XPS 15) and Cyberpower (perhaps this one, customised).

[Ishu]

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptop-computers/4/
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptop-computers/2/
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptop-computers/3/

No idea about UK sites tbh.

[mije1983]

Having read through the last 2 pages of this thread, I have settled on the following from PC Specialist. Does this look ok overall? Priced at £670

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5-2500 Quad Core (3.30GHz, 6MB Cache) + HD Graphics
Motherboard
ASUS® P8H67-M LE: M-ATX, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0Gb/s,
Memory (RAM)
4GB SAMSUNG DDR3 DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 2GB)
Graphics Card
1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTS 450 - DVI,HDMI,VGA - 3D Vision Ready
Memory - 1^st Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR GREEN WD10EARS, SATA 3 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE
1^st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Memory Card Reader
INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Power Supply
450W Quiet 80 PLUS Dual Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan
Processor Cooling
SUPER QUIET 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEATPIPE CPU COOLER
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities
ONBOARD GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps PCI-E CARD
USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence

[Ishu]

Getting almost what Crouchy did. Looks good.

[mije1983]

Getting almost what Crouchy did. Looks good.

Yeah I read the advice you gave him and tried to follow it. So thanks for that

[Rafa2007]

Processor: Intel Core i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz 3.10GHz
RAM: 8GB
Graphics: ASUS GeForce GTX 460 Direct CU TOP Edition 1GB

[Ishu]

60 - 65

[hirsty1867]

What could I expect with this? I know pretty much next to nothing about computers / laptops!

Also when you say load 25 leagues for example, does that mean full leagues from 25 countries or just 25 different divisions?


CPU: Intel® Core™ i3-350M processor

Operating System: Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium
Clock Frequency: 2.26 Ghz
Memory size: 3 GB
Hard disk capacity: 320 GB
Screen size: 43,9 cm (17,3")
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Resolution: 1600x900 pixels
Screen Type: Glare Display
LED Backlight: Yes

Intel® HD Graphics with digital HDMI connector

8x multi-standard DVD/CD burner with DVD-RAM and Dual Layer support

High Definition Audio with 2 speakers & 1 subwoofer, Dolby Home Theater® v3 certified (Dolby®, Dolby Home Theater® and the double-D symbol are registered trademarks of Dolby Laboratories.)

Additional integrated second hard drive bay
Digital display port and HDMI output for a brilliant multimedia experiences
DVB-T TV-tuner including remote control
Integrated 1.3 MP webcam and microphone
eSATA connection - extremely fast transfer rate for high performance data transfers

[Ishu]

just 25 different divisions

20 - 25

[hirsty1867]

20 - 25

Thank you.

And what about this one?

HP Pavilion g6-1013sa

Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit
AMD Phenom™ II X4 P960 Processor

- 1.8 GHz
- 1.8 GHz HT (3600 MT/s)
- 4 x 512 KB L2 Cache
- Quad-core
- 4GB installed DDR3 memory
- Maximum 4GB RAM
- ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250

[stevie_G_32201]

Whats the deal with this card?

Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD, doesnt really offer much information.

[x42bn6]

Whats the deal with this card?

Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD, doesnt really offer much information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#Specifications

"HD Graphics (GMA HD)" and downward.

Note that the Sandy Bridge ones are the only ones really worth considering.

[Ishu]

Thank you.

And what about this one?

HP Pavilion g6-1013sa

Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit
AMD Phenom™ II X4 P960 Processor

- 1.8 GHz
- 1.8 GHz HT (3600 MT/s)
- 4 x 512 KB L2 Cache
- Quad-core
- 4GB installed DDR3 memory
- Maximum 4GB RAM
- ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250

Same. Better onboard graphics.

[Chris21]

Could someone tell me how many leagues I could run please?

Acer Aspire 5532
Windows 7...64 bit operating system
AMD Athlon (tm) X2 Dual-score processor TK-42 1.60ghz
220gb Hard drive
4gb RAM
ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics Card

All the information I know how to get at the moment lol Thanks for any help.

[Ishu]

8 - 12

[pigfacemonkeyman]

Not FM11, but for anyone interested, this is from Steam's 'Football Manager 2012' pre-order page.

PC System Requirements

OS: Windows XP/Vista/W7
Processor: XP - 1.4GHz or Faster, Vista/W7 - 2.0GHz or Faster. Intel Pentium 4, Intel Core, AMD Athlon.
Memory: XP - 512MB RAM, Vista/W7 - 1.0GB RAM
Graphics: 128MBSupported Chipsets - Nvidia FX 5900 Ultra or greater; ATI Radeon 9800 or greater; Intel 82915G/82910GL or greater.
Earlier cards may only display 2D Match Viewer Mode and are not supported.
Earlier cards may require the DirectX 9.0 SDK is installed to run the game. This can be downloaded from the following url:
DirectX Software Development Kit
Laptop versions of these chipsets may work but are not supported.

DirectX®: 9.0c
Hard Drive: 2GB
Sound: DirectX 9.0c compatible
LAN: TCP/IP compliant

Mac System Requirements

OS: OS X 10.5.8/10.6.8/10.7.x or higher
Processor: Intel Processor
Memory: 1GB
Graphics: Nvidia Geforce 7300 GT or greater; ATI Radeon X1600 or greater.
Hard Drive: 2GB

http://store.steampowered.com/app/71270/?snr=1_4_4__13

[Ishu]

Looks like they have posted the last year's specs. Probably SI didn't change them.

[pigfacemonkeyman]

Looks like they have posted the last year's specs. Probably SI didn't change them.

You're probably right. I have just checked again and although this is at the foot of the FM12 page, I included the title "Football Manager 2012" by mistake. It is in fact the last line of the preceding paragraph, which was outside the window when I copied the info, and I apologise if I have misled anyone. I will edit the offending post.

[Gooner88]

Does FM work on Intel Graphics HD Family?

[Ishu]

Yes .

[Gooner88]

Thanks, does it work well? Salesman in PC world was trying to tell me FM wouldnt work without specialised large graphics card

[Barside]

Thanks, does it work well? Salesman in PC world was trying to tell me FM wouldnt work without specialised large graphics card

Another reason to never listened to PC World employees.

Unless they are using really old CPU's in their systems the stock integrated graphics will be fine.

software.intel.com/sites/billboard/article/intel-integrated-graphics-deliver-football-manager-2011]This article mentions using integrated graphics to play FM2011.

[Gooner88]

Thanks a lot. I thought it was strange as iv been playing fm for years and never had to worry about this, but i really know nothing about how a computer works so was a bit worried.

Thanks again.

[PhYsIcS]

Hi guys. I currently have a desktop and laptop. How will the specs fare for FM 2011 and possibly the upcoming FM 2012 and how many leagues max is suitable? I will be using 2D more than 3D graphics for the games.

So far for FM 2011, I can only reach 7 leagues using my desktop. Anything more will leads the processing to a crawl. As I've just gotten the laptop, I'm not too sure of its capabilities just yet.

Laptop: Acer Aspire 4755G
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-2410M processor (3 MB L3 cache, 2.30 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 2.90, DDR3 1333 MHz, 35 W)
Ram: 8GB
HDD: 640GB
GFX: NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M with NVIDIA® Optimus™ technology (2GB of dedicated DDR3 VRAM)
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit

Desktop: DIY
Processor: Intel Core2Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Ram: 4GB
GFX: Asus GTS 250 (1gb)
HDD: More than sufficient space
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit

Thank you!

[Barside]

Ditch the desktop, your laptop is top draw but I'm sure you knew that

As for how many leagues that all depends on what you consider to be an acceptable processing time but it should offer good performance on as many as 40-50 leagues. I always mess around with game size for a few weeks just to get a feel for how it will perform 20+ seasons in & thankfully you no longer need to start a new save on FM12 if you find that you can get away with a couple of extra countries or need to drop a few.

[Ishu]

The laptop's CPU is like 50% better than the desktop's.

[PhYsIcS]

Thanks guys!

edit: managed to get it displayed accordingly.

[masticator]

can anyone recommend a decent desktop pc for fm12 and moderate gaming? ive got a maximum budget of £500 (not much i know). was thinking of looking in argos but if somebody can point me in a better direction i would be grateful. many thanks in advance.

[TaxpayersMoney]

My current laptop takes an age (by which I mean it often takes a minute or so processing) to run 1 playable league, no stadiums and a small database so I'm thinking of upgrading for FM2012. Is it possible to get a laptop that'll run, say, 6 leagues and display the 3D matches with stadiums with a medium-large database for around £500? Any suggestions? Don't really play the latest in cutting edge games so it's really only for FM. Thanks.

[Barside]

This should do the trick.

[Ishu]

My current laptop takes an age (by which I mean it often takes a minute or so processing) to run 1 playable league, no stadiums and a small database so I'm thinking of upgrading for FM2012. Is it possible to get a laptop that'll run, say, 6 leagues and display the 3D matches with stadiums with a medium-large database for around £500? Any suggestions? Don't really play the latest in cutting edge games so it's really only for FM. Thanks.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004TQQFJG

[TaxpayersMoney]

Thanks you Sir! Very speedy response.

[Ishu]

can anyone recommend a decent desktop pc for fm12 and moderate gaming? ive got a maximum budget of £500 (not much i know). was thinking of looking in argos but if somebody can point me in a better direction i would be grateful. many thanks in advance.

OK with assembled (DIY)?
Need windows?
Monitor/KB/Mouse etc?

[Doraso]

Hi!

I Have a laptop with 4gb memory i72630QM CPU and Nvidia GT540m GPU and when i max the game out the matches lags a little. Is this normal with thoose specs?

Br D

[Ishu]

No. Try to install fraps and see what FPSs you are getting.

[oggie26]

How many leagues please ?

i7 920@ 4.3GHz (HT on)
6gb ddr3 ram 1333 mhz
4870x2 GPU

[Ishu]

55 - 60 .

[jags4ever]

If you have a decent GFX card that can handle FM (and is PCIE) then look at these bundles on Scan that are pre overclocked. Some good stuff there IMO http://www.scan.co.uk/3xs-overclocked-bundles

[Doraso]

No. Try to install fraps and see what FPSs you are getting

When I run windowed mode I never get more than 30 fps which makes the game seem slow. When going fullscreen mode I get 60 fps but drops down to 30 at times which makes the game seem choppy. Could it be optimus setup that is causing this? Game gives me almost 5 stars 3D rating. Please help, bought this laptop mostly because of FM.

Can I see which graphic card the game is using? It should be using nvidia card. Im guessing FM wouldnt give Intel HD graphics 4,5 stars? Or am I wrong?

Sorry if my english is bad at times, Im from Sweden

Br D

[Scab]

The 60/30 jump sounds like vsync. Try disabling it for FM in your video card driver's control center. You may get some screen tearing instead though, but eh, pick your poison.

[Barside]

How many leagues please ?

i7 920@ 4.3GHz (HT on)
6gb ddr3 ram 1333 mhz
4870x2 GPU

I'm currently running every league & a 300,000 player database on an i7-920 that is o/c to 3.8HGz & the same RAM setup, dependant on your speed requirements 70+ leagues will run fine.

PS. I assume your running liquid cooling.

[antg1985]

Just bought this, loaded up FM and first impressions are brilliant, I have never had a laptop so good.

What do you guys think?

How many leagues?

Inspiron N5110 (FCG41) - i5-2410 (2.30GHz, 3MB cache, Dual Core)
4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [1x4096]
2nd generation Intel® Core™ i5-2410M processor 2.30 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 2.90 GHz
Internal Keyboard
500GB Serial ATA (5400RPM)
Primary 6-cell 48 WHr Lithium Ion battery
1 GB nVidia GeForce GT 525M
8X DVD+/-RW Drive
Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 1030, Bluetooth v3.0+HS
Power Cord : 1M
Documentation Inspiron N5110
15.6" (40 cm) High Definition (1366X768) WLED with True-Life
Integrated 1.0 Mega Pixel Widescreen HD (1280 x 720) camera
Inspiron N5110 Resource DVD (Diagnostic & Drivers)

[tuffers007]

i have been told that building my own computer is a lot cheaper than buying from stores but the thing is i dont even know where to start?

if some one can point me in the right direction i would be forever grateful

for example how much would something like this cost? 7 920@ 4.3GHz (HT on)
6gb ddr3 ram 1333 mhz
4870x2 GPU

and where would you recommend i purchase from?

[Barside]

Start at around £1000 & count upwards from there, for such a high overclock you'd need top end parts everywhere to handle to heat generated by the cpu.

At a guess I'd suggest a price of around £1500 if you were to do it right & not risk the system melting within a year.

What sort of budget do you have & other than FM what other PC games do you play & would it just be used as a gaming PC?

[tuffers007]

Start at around £1000 & count upwards from there, for such a high overclock you'd need top end parts everywhere to handle to heat generated by the cpu.

At a guess I'd suggest a price of around £1500 if you were to do it right & not risk the system melting within a year.

What sort of budget do you have & other than FM what other PC games do you play & would it just be used as a gaming PC?

bloody hell i cant afford that much! thats how useless i am i had no idea that all that was so powerful.

i only play fm on pc but the missus like to use it for photos and music ( most of which is ****!!! ) i would like to be able to load numerous leagues along with the 3d pitch view without it being slow or sluggish as time is very limited

[Barside]

How much money are you able to part with? Can you hide some extra from the missus? I'm guessing that your other half will store her music files on the PC.

[tuffers007]

How much money are you able to part with? Can you hide some extra from the missus? I'm guessing that your other half will store her music files on the PC.

yes she will unfortunately ( i really is rubbish ) i guess about £800 but im hoping that building it myself will keep the price down, i would also like the most powerful available for that price.

building it myself will also enable me to buy the parts in stages if necessary.

[Barside]

If you're comfortable doing your own build then I would check out http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/ , they have a range of builds plus the site has the added benefit of letting you play around with the parts & will tell you if there are any compatibility issues, from there you can either order it & let them do the build or note down all the parts & source them yourself.

It's also worth considering what can be cannibalised from your current pc (graphics*/sound card card, PSU, HDD etc), as the saying goes 'every little helps' & you can show the missus how good you are at saving money which might be worth some browny points.

*if you get a 2nd generation i3/5/7 cpu you will not need a graphics card. these have a 4 digit number code (i7-xxxx) rather than a 3 digit code (i7-xxx) that is given to the 1st gen models, just to make things easy Intel are still shipping both versions.

[mije1983]

Almost ready to order my new pc for FM12 now it's nearly payday, but before I do, does anyone know the main differences between these 2 motherboards? There only seems to be £10 difference in the price so which would be better?

ASUS® P8P67 LE: USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, CrossFireX™

ASUS® P8H67-M: M-ATX, DDR3, USB 2.0, SATA 6.0Gb/s, CrossFireX™

[iAmGory]

Without looking the P8H67-M - M-ATX - I would guess it's MicroATX?

Tuffers Ill spec you a machine for 800quid depending on your need, any preferences? I'm an IT Engineer so I (presumably, debatable) know what I'm doing.

[tuffers007]

Without looking the P8H67-M - M-ATX - I would guess it's MicroATX?

Tuffers Ill spec you a machine for 800quid depending on your need, any preferences? I'm an IT Engineer so I (presumably, debatable) know what I'm doing.

that would great as i know nothing about computers!!!!!!

needs= fm12 (obviously) music, photos.

cheers mate i really appreciate your help

[the_unhinged_one]

I'm looking to replace my 8yr old Desktop with the new release coming up. I'd like to get a quality package with enough quality to hopefully get me through a few more versions of the game and play with quite a few leagues loaded.

I'm way out of my depth here, I have a Pentium 2 for crying out loud. Now they're talking about multi core processors...... ??

Would really appreciate it somebody could give me a good spec to aim at, I haven't played with a lot of leagues loaded since FM05 as the old slugger couldn't really handle too much. I'm not keen on building my own, but if it keeps the costs down I'm more than willing to try.

[iAmGory]

I threw tuffers a build - Intel i5, 12gb ram, GeForce 550Ti, 1tb Sata II drive w/ 64mb cache (FM/general use only, wouldn't recommend for hardcore gaming) and it's sitting at sub £600 from Scan.co.uk. Thats with no monitor or OS.

[x42bn6]

I'm looking to replace my 8yr old Desktop with the new release coming up. I'd like to get a quality package with enough quality to hopefully get me through a few more versions of the game and play with quite a few leagues loaded.

I'm way out of my depth here, I have a Pentium 2 for crying out loud. Now they're talking about multi core processors...... ??

Would really appreciate it somebody could give me a good spec to aim at, I haven't played with a lot of leagues loaded since FM05 as the old slugger couldn't really handle too much. I'm not keen on building my own, but if it keeps the costs down I'm more than willing to try.

What's your budget?

[the_unhinged_one]

What's your budget?

Budget around €1000. Could stretch to a little more if would make a big difference in performance.

[the_unhinged_one]

I threw tuffers a build - Intel i5, 12gb ram, GeForce 550Ti, 1tb Sata II drive w/ 64mb cache (FM/general use only, wouldn't recommend for hardcore gaming) and it's sitting at sub £600 from Scan.co.uk. Thats with no monitor or OS.

Cheers, I'll have a look there for starters.

[NUFCAlex]

I just recently bought a new PC with the following specs:

8GB RAM
Intel Quad core 2.9 GHz
64 bit Win 7
1.5 TB hard drive

When starting a new game i can select just over half of the countries in Europe with the star system going down to about 3 or less but not sure if this would be an accurate relection of my system performance.

[x42bn6]

Budget around €1000. Could stretch to a little more if would make a big difference in performance.

Start with something like this: http://community.sigames.com/showthr...=1#post7073668

Bump up to an i5-2500K if you can overclock (or get someone to do it), which shouldn't add much. The biggest room for improvement will be the video card - given your PC is nearly 8 years old, you never know what you might want to do with your new PC (you might think it's just for FM and light gaming, but once you get a new PC, you will become greedy).

It also depends if you are building your own, or buying it assembled.

Feel free to come back here once you have a rough idea, and other forum members can comment.

I just recently bought a new PC with the following specs:

8GB RAM
Intel Quad core 2.9 GHz
64 bit Win 7
1.5 TB hard drive

When starting a new game i can select just over half of the countries in Europe with the star system going down to about 3 or less but not sure if this would be an accurate relection of my system performance.

Ignore the star ratings - just see what it feels like for yourself.

It also depends on what the processor is ("Quad-core" just about represents every Intel processor out there in the last few years, and some AMD processors too). It could be a Core 2 Quad (not very good nowadays), for example.

[iAmGory]

As x42bn6 said, Star ratings are pretty bugged - with that kit I would ignore star ratings. My Centrino laptop with 4gig ram gets the same as my i5 desktop with 8gig.

Tbh Overclocking for FM is a waste and generally a lot of people who "know all about overclocking" really only know "all about destroying your pc". True story - I was on the receiving end of that one when i was 19 and my mate told me he had been overclocking all his kit for years. One burnt out processor later, I decided it wasn't worth the risk lol

[x42bn6]

As x42bn6 said, Star ratings are pretty bugged - with that kit I would ignore star ratings. My Centrino laptop with 4gig ram gets the same as my i5 desktop with 8gig.

Tbh Overclocking for FM is a waste and generally a lot of people who "know all about overclocking" really only know "all about destroying your pc". True story - I was on the receiving end of that one when i was 19 and my mate told me he had been overclocking all his kit for years. One burnt out processor later, I decided it wasn't worth the risk lol

It's not a waste on newer processors - with a good case, wiring and sensible fan placement, you can overclock the i5-2500K to 4 GHz pretty easily - on air (i.e. without water-cooling) - that's a 700 MHz boost. With a heavy-duty cooling solution, you can even hit 5 GHz...

[Barside]

As x42bn6 said, Star ratings are pretty bugged - with that kit I would ignore star ratings. My Centrino laptop with 4gig ram gets the same as my i5 desktop with 8gig.

Tbh Overclocking for FM is a waste and generally a lot of people who "know all about overclocking" really only know "all about destroying your pc". True story - I was on the receiving end of that one when i was 19 and my mate told me he had been overclocking all his kit for years. One burnt out processor later, I decided it wasn't worth the risk lol

I've been running an i7-920 clocked to 3.8Ghz for over 2 years without any trouble, as z42bn6 has said it's all about keeping the cpu cool.

You wouldn't add a sports turbo to a car without installing an intercooler or upgrading the radiator. That one was for you Kriss.

[stevie_G_32201]

Not really paid much attention to this so might be a stupid question, but will Fm 12 take advantage of hyper threading?

[x42bn6]

Not really paid much attention to this so might be a stupid question, but will Fm 12 take advantage of hyper threading?

All software nowadays makes good use of threads in general so yes, it will. Hyperthreading has also been around since the Pentium 4 days...

[Barside]

What I've found is that hyper-threading is only currently (FM11) utilised when the game is processing 'full detail' matches.

[stevie_G_32201]

Quick question, With a game like Fm which is better, better processor or more ram?

[dan99]

Quick question, With a game like Fm which is better, better processor or more ram?

Fm is a 32 bit program, so it never uses more than 3GB.

[welshace]

Fm is a 32 bit program, so it never uses more than 3GB.

well seeing as that isnt answering his question.. i will

'better' is the wrong term. but fm is a processor intensive program so a decent processor is certainly more important than masses of ram...

and yes... fm is 32 bit so any more than 2-3 ram is needless for it