FM 2011 Official System/Specs Thread

[phnompenhandy]

Ehhh, it might be able to do 20-25, but not with a lot of speed. Smooth 3D should work, but it's going to be pretty much equivalent to FA in the quality department.

Sorry, don't follow you; do you mean the 3D will be poor quality? In what way? Or do you mean the 3D will be fine and something else will be crap??


TA - cheers. I notice the laptop you link to has a Dual-core Intel® Celeron® T3500 processor. How does that compare to the i3? Slower, isn't it? Otherwise, it has more RAM and HD than the one i'm looking at for the same price.

[TiltonArmy]

Sorry, don't follow you; do you mean the 3D will be poor quality? In what way? Or do you mean the 3D will be fine and something else will be crap??


TA - cheers. I notice the laptop you link to has a Dual-core Intel® Celeron® T3500 processor. How does that compare to the i3? Slower, isn't it? Otherwise, it has more RAM and HD than the one i'm looking at for the same price.

Hi phnompenhandy ,

Sorry the link I orignally posted is now not available fella , was available the time I posted - (http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/packar...34174-pdt.html) Product unavailable , the one you mentioned was a recomendation PC world had ( poor one at that lol) I'l keep a look out for you fella

[phnompenhandy]

Magic, thanks mate!!

[TiltonArmy]

Magic, thanks mate!!

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/packar...34188-pdt.html

There you go bud , looks like the i3's around the £300 mark are selling fast , it is a good price mind

[Lone Gooner]

Yes fella , this is a decent one , just over your budget but worth the little bit extra

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/packar...83798-pdt.html

Or you could always go to your nearest store and look at the clearence section , I got £100 off mine in clearence/sale

Thanks buddy

What do you think of the below? Worth the price?

http://www.comet.co.uk/p/Laptops/buy...-Laptop/715468

Cheers

[TiltonArmy]

Thanks buddy

What do you think of the below? Worth the price?

http://www.comet.co.uk/p/Laptops/buy...-Laptop/715468

Cheers

Specs look OK , GHZ @2.1 per channel might have a factor , I would look for 2.5 GHZ and above personally

The Product Description is different to the Technical specifications stated in the ad , Id check that out cuz there is a bit of a difference

Still a good price either way

Good chip/good RAM/ Loads of HD space

[Lone Gooner]

Hmmmm its what to go for really, is the Packard Bell a better laptop?

[0gris]

Sorry, don't follow you; do you mean the 3D will be poor quality? In what way? Or do you mean the 3D will be fine and something else will be crap??


TA - cheers. I notice the laptop you link to has a Dual-core Intel® Celeron® T3500 processor. How does that compare to the i3? Slower, isn't it? Otherwise, it has more RAM and HD than the one i'm looking at for the same price.

No, 3D will work, just don't expect it to look any good, depending on how well optimized the game is maybe medium at a push, but as i said, won't look too nice but will work without any problems.

EDIT: Actually, it might be able to push up to high; But i wouldnt count on it too much, either way, 3D will work just fine.

[TiltonArmy]

Hmmmm its what to go for really, is the Packard Bell a better laptop?

Both are capable to run FM12 m8.

For the extra £40 you do get a better spec - i5/ and the enhanced GHZ , The Packard Bell has less RAM/Hardrive but has the better Processor - RAM and external HD'S are cheap.

Personally I'd go for the i5 purely for the Processor

[TiltonArmy]

No, 3D will work, just don't expect it to look any good, depending on how well optimized the game is maybe medium at a push, but as i said, won't look too nice but will work without any problems.

EDIT: Actually, it might be able to push up to high; But i wouldnt count on it too much, either way, 3D will work just fine.

0gris I have the exact same GC and the 3D looks fine m8 ,no blocky gameplay , just perfect TBH

[toon army 06]

Depends on your version of windows. On XP it should be alright, on 7 it's a bit crap though. Anything below 2 gigs is pushing it, even 2 is low. 4 should be the minimum if you consider buying a new PC really. This is obviously reffering to more than just FM atm

i'm on vista is 1.50gb to low on that my computer ispackard bell

[toon army 06]

Unless you plan on loading a gazillion leagues, you'll be fine.

i will only have the scottish premier league, english leagfue 2 up to the premier league and the spannish top league and maybe seria a

[0gris]

0gris I have the exact same GC and the 3D looks fine m8 ,no blocky gameplay , just perfect TBH

I was reffering to the level of detail, even on low it doesn't look block. This isn't 2000 anymore. As i said, medium sure, high MAAAAAAAAAAYBE. It's not about something being blocky or not, there's little actual difference between low and high when it comes to looks(the effects drain a ton of graphical power for some reason)

[TiltonArmy]

I was reffering to the level of detail, even on low it doesn't look block. This isn't 2000 anymore. As i said, medium sure, high MAAAAAAAAAAYBE. It's not about something being blocky or not, there's little actual difference between low and high when it comes to looks(the effects drain a ton of graphical power for some reason)

As phnompenhandy stated "I want a smooth 3D ME." I was simply stating and giving advice on my spec and how the game runs , level of detail wasent even mentioned

BTW FIFA 12 on my graphics card runs just as well and that takes a fair bit of resourses

[phnompenhandy]

Still not entirely clear about the graphics. Do you mean it will struggle if I have stadium, weather etc ticked? How about outside scenes? Really i'd like to have everything ticked and the 3D look and run well.

The machine i'm eyeing has only 2GB RAM. How much for 2 more RAM these days, and how much to up it to 8GB? Where is the best place to order it?

I'd love an i5 processor, but surely it would cost more than an extra 40 quid?

[0gris]

Still not entirely clear about the graphics. Do you mean it will struggle if I have stadium, weather etc ticked? How about outside scenes? Really i'd like to have everything ticked and the 3D look and run well.

The machine i'm eyeing has only 2GB RAM. How much for 2 more RAM these days, and how much to up it to 8GB? Where is the best place to order it?

I'd love an i5 processor, but surely it would cost more than an extra 40 quid?

You could probably have everything ticked at around medim quality and it should still run fairly fine, but I'm not sure if it would be PERFECTLY smooth. Other than that it should be perfectly smooth all the time if you disable one or two things.

RAM is pretty cheap, 40 quid will get you another 2 gigs. Going for 8 could get a bit more expensive and you probably wouldnt need it with a laptop but it's up to you. And yes, an i5 would cost you a bit more than an extra 40 quid but it is quite a significant difference; In the end it's up to you. An i3 will get the job done, an i5 will get the job done better. Simple as that really.

[TiltonArmy]

Still not entirely clear about the graphics. Do you mean it will struggle if I have stadium, weather etc ticked? How about outside scenes? Really i'd like to have everything ticked and the 3D look and run well.

No , I have the exact same graphics card and all the boxes were ticked automatically when I first installed the game , on my older computer only a few were ticked due to the conmputer/graphics card being over 4 years old , if you want I could upload one of my 3D match's on youtube

The machine i'm eyeing has only 2GB RAM. How much for 2 more RAM these days, and how much to up it to 8GB? Where is the best place to order it?

Depends on what processor is supporting it , a dual core would be sufficent , could you copy/paste the system your lookintg at for me bud , one way to look at it (- e.g -dual core requires 2 GB RAM/Quad core 3/4 GB RAM for optomise performance) RAM costs approximately £12/15 per GB from Scan.com but would require you to install it yourself (pretty easy TBF) or you could take it to any computer shop to have the RAM installed (probably charge you an arm and a leg lol)

I'd love an i5 processor, but surely it would cost more than an extra 40 quid?

That system I was refering to was specific to Lone Gooner's budget fella.


Sorry if I'm getting all technical , and if theres any more advice you need you can put it on here or send me a prt message

[phnompenhandy]

No need to upload anything; you're help is marvellous mate.

As mentioned above, my mind is set on an HP ProBook 4530s pass muster?

It's got an i3 dual-core processor with an Integrated Intel HD Graphics 3000.

I reckon I can stick the RAM in myself. Trouble is, I'm presuming it comes with a 1 GB stick in each slot, so i'd need to buy 2 @GB sticks - an extra 50-60 quid. That bites a bit for me but with the laptop being a tad under 300 quid I can just about do it. From what you're saying, looks like that will be dandy for FM12. I don't play any other games, so the machine will be more than sufficient for my other uses.

[TiltonArmy]

You could probably have everything ticked at around medim quality and it should still run fairly fine, but I'm not sure if it would be PERFECTLY smooth. Other than that it should be perfectly smooth all the time if you disable one or two things.

RAM is pretty cheap, 40 quid will get you another 2 gigs. Going for 8 could get a bit more expensive and you probably wouldnt need it with a laptop but it's up to you. And yes, an i5 would cost you a bit more than an extra 40 quid but it is quite a significant difference; In the end it's up to you. An i3 will get the job done, an i5 will get the job done better. Simple as that really.

Ogris Im not being funny fella but your probably confussing the guy by contridicting the advice Im trying to give.

I suggested a PC to phnompenhandy's budget as close to my specification as possible , that will run the game/3D ME as well as mine does

but I'm not sure if it would be PERFECTLY smooth

It does run perfectly smooth, I am sure, I have that graphics card! FIFA 12 runs smooth I highly doubt FM would require even half of the graphics card power

[TiltonArmy]

No need to upload anything; you're help is marvellous mate.

As mentioned above, my mind is set on an HP ProBook 4530s pass muster?

It's got an i3 dual-core processor with an Integrated Intel HD Graphics 3000.

I reckon I can stick the RAM in myself. Trouble is, I'm presuming it comes with a 1 GB stick in each slot, so i'd need to buy 2 @GB sticks - an extra 50-60 quid. That bites a bit for me but with the laptop being a tad under 300 quid I can just about do it. From what you're saying, looks like that will be dandy for FM12. I don't play any other games, so the machine will be more than sufficient for my other uses.

That be fine mate and more than likely if will have 1GB per channel.

If you decide on that machine my best suggestion would be to go to Scan.com and that site will automatically scan your opponents and make a recommendation to your machines RAM specifics. http://www.scan.co.uk/

Mine has 4GB (2GB per channel) and it suggested for optimise performance 8GB ( 4 per channel).

An i3 owuld need at least 4 IMO

[x42bn6]

For anyone who is interested... AMD Bulldozer reviews are starting to come out. This, unfortunately, doesn't change much - the i5-2500K outperforms the FX-8150. By quite a bit... http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/t...-fx8150-tested

Bulldozer's lower-end chips will be reviewed over the next few weeks and we might see some interesting results when comparing price per performance of competing chips against the i5-2400 and i3 Sandy Bridge processors, of course, but the reviews for the FX-8150 simply suggest that unless you have an extremely threaded workload, don't bother with Bulldozer, and Football Manager isn't on that level of "threadedness".

[iAmGory]

True that

Yet again corrected by Ishu and yet again he's correct. I can't win

Remember rule 1 of upgrading - never early adopt on first generation releases, in this case the new AMD processors.

Always...ALWAYS wait for revisions

Ogris Im not being funny fella but your probably confussing the guy by contridicting the advice Im trying to give.

I suggested a PC to phnompenhandy's budget as close to my specification as possible , that will run the game/3D ME as well as mine does

Checked your spec. You're bang on. Won't be a problem with FM.

[CaseyJones]

hello, i just bought a new laptop since it was only £149.99. wondering if its ok for fm2012? and if so how many leagues would be ok for it to still be fast?
15.6" WXGAG HD Acer CineCrystal™ LED LCD Screen
2.53GHz Intel Core i3 380M Processor
4GB DDR3 RAM (2 x 2GB)
500GB Hard Drive
i'm hoping the fact it was cheap doesn't mean its ass lol

[TiltonArmy]

hello, i just bought a new laptop since it was only £149.99. wondering if its ok for fm2012? and if so how many leagues would be ok for it to still be fast?
15.6" WXGAG HD Acer CineCrystal™ LED LCD Screen
2.53GHz Intel Core i3 380M Processor
4GB DDR3 RAM (2 x 2GB)
500GB Hard Drive
i'm hoping the fact it was cheap doesn't mean its ass lol

Hello , yes that run fine , how did you get it sooo cheap? , thats cheap as chips.
Where did you buy it from? , also what graphics card does it has? - relevant for the 3D
Will run between 25/30 leagues comfortably , maybe more , I only run 25/30 myself

Hope this helps

[Lambo95]

hello, i just bought a new laptop since it was only £149.99. wondering if its ok for fm2012? and if so how many leagues would be ok for it to still be fast?
15.6" WXGAG HD Acer CineCrystal™ LED LCD Screen
2.53GHz Intel Core i3 380M Processor
4GB DDR3 RAM (2 x 2GB)
500GB Hard Drive


i'm hoping the fact it was cheap doesn't mean its ass lol

Where on earth did you get that for so little?

[stevie_G_32201]

Im not a fan of Acer, every single person i know who has owned them say they die after a year or 2 due to overheating.

[CaseyJones]

thanks for the info. it has Intel HD Graphics Dynamic Video Memory Technology 5.0 and i bought it at my local asda while i was shopping. it was an impulse buy being it was cheap, i was just praying it was a decent machine since im clueless when it comes to specs lol

[phnompenhandy]

Damn! I'd have bought that one if I'd known. It's better specs than the one I've got coming tomorrow for just under 300 quid. Hmm, it's too cheap to be credible - what's the hidden story?

[CaseyJones]

There isn't a story, they are having an electrical sale untill nov 31st

[Lone Gooner]

Both are capable to run FM12 m8.

For the extra £40 you do get a better spec - i5/ and the enhanced GHZ , The Packard Bell has less RAM/Hardrive but has the better Processor - RAM and external HD'S are cheap.

Personally I'd go for the i5 purely for the Processor

Thanks for your help mate, sorry to trouble you again but I was thinking its over my budget but looks a great spec at the price:

http://www.comet.co.uk/p/Laptops/buy...-Laptop/733652

What do you think? Are Asus usually pretty good?

Cheers

[0gris]

Asus are usually pretty good so can't see how you could go wrong with them. Seems like a fairly good laptop for the price

[TiltonArmy]

Thanks for your help mate, sorry to trouble you again but I was thinking its over my budget but looks a great spec at the price:

http://www.comet.co.uk/p/Laptops/buy...-Laptop/733652

What do you think? Are Asus usually pretty good?

Cheers

Your not troubling me , I'm more than happy to help

As 0gris said its a good lappy for the price , very good. shopping around is a good idea , fair play m8

Compared to the one I found , it has a larger HD , double the RAM (6GB RAM will optimise the speed to the max) for the xtra £70 , good find! Go for it!

The make of the laptop dosent make much difference tbh , most low to mid makes , use the same componements , its just the aftersales/customer services that make a difference

EXAMPLE - Sony offer excellent aftersales , extended warranty as standard/replacement product if yours needs fixing/replacing - etc etc , as oppose to a lesser make that only comes with a standard 12 month warranty

If you need anymore advice feel free to post it or you can PM mate

[TiltonArmy]

thanks for the info. it has Intel HD Graphics Dynamic Video Memory Technology 5.0 and i bought it at my local asda while i was shopping. it was an impulse buy being it was cheap, i was just praying it was a decent machine since im clueless when it comes to specs lol

Got a steal there my friend!

[wfc_collins]

can anyone tell me if this laptop will support fm 2012

Screen size - 15.6 in - 1366 x 768
Processor - Intel Celeron 925 - 2.3 GHz
RAM - 6 GB
Hard Drive - 250 GB
Operating System - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
Optical Drive - DVD Rewriter
Graphics - Intel GMA X4500 3D
Webcam - Integrated
Warranty - 1 year warranty

[TiltonArmy]

can anyone tell me if this laptop will support fm 2012

Screen size - 15.6 in - 1366 x 768
Processor - Intel Celeron 925 - 2.3 GHz
RAM - 6 GB
Hard Drive - 250 GB
Operating System - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
Optical Drive - DVD Rewriter
Graphics - Intel GMA X4500 3D
Webcam - Integrated
Warranty - 1 year warranty

it will support it..but..

Its a single core (obsolete now) so running multiple tasks will be impossible and being a Celeron chip , I wouldnt touch that with a bargepole.

RAMS V good , just running FM on its own should be pretty fast , hard drives a tad small and the graphics chip would even struggle to run high resolution games from 2008/2009 , don't think it run FM 3D smoothly.

Personally , I'd go for a more higher spec.

hope that helps

[x42bn6]

It's easily one of the most imbalanced laptops I've seen. 6 GB RAM and a single-core...

I wouldn't get it. It would be painfully slow on that processor. You'd be lucky to load 2 GB worth of stuff into memory with that speed, which is why you certainly don't need 6 GB of RAM. It's a rip-off, really.

[Lone Gooner]

Your not troubling me , I'm more than happy to help

As 0gris said its a good lappy for the price , very good. shopping around is a good idea , fair play m8

Compared to the one I found , it has a larger HD , double the RAM (6GB RAM will optimise the speed to the max) for the xtra £70 , good find! Go for it!

The make of the laptop dosent make much difference tbh , most low to mid makes , use the same componements , its just the aftersales/customer services that make a difference

EXAMPLE - Sony offer excellent aftersales , extended warranty as standard/replacement product if yours needs fixing/replacing - etc etc , as oppose to a lesser make that only comes with a standard 12 month warranty

If you need anymore advice feel free to post it or you can PM mate

Thanks fella, I did come across this what also seemed a good buy:

http://www.comet.co.uk/p/Laptops/buy...-Laptop/750255

[TiltonArmy]

It's easily one of the most imbalanced laptops I've seen. 6 GB RAM and a single-core...

I wouldn't get it. It would be painfully slow on that processor. You'd be lucky to load 2 GB worth of stuff into memory with that speed, which is why you certainly don't need 6 GB of RAM. It's a rip-off, really.

hahaha , Thats what I thought

Its like an i7 with 1 gig of RAM lmao

[TiltonArmy]

Thanks fella, I did come across this what also seemed a good buy:

http://www.comet.co.uk/p/Laptops/buy...-Laptop/750255

Nah mate, AMD Athlon Dual-Core (2 cores) is carp compared to the i5 dude, The i5 you posted is at least 3/4 times more powerfull, better chip AMD v Intel Core , no comparison , better HardDrive , much better Processor.

I'd take the Asus over the Sony if it was me mate

[TiltonArmy]

Damn! I'd have bought that one if I'd known. It's better specs than the one I've got coming tomorrow for just under 300 quid. Hmm, it's too cheap to be credible - what's the hidden story?

Hi , let me know how you get on when its delivered m8

[stevie_G_32201]

Just ordered a new laptop from the dell outlet, any ideas how many leagues this would run?

intel Core i7-2630QM processor 2.00 GHz
8 GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz (2 DIMMs)
2GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M Graphics card

[iAmGory]

Nah mate, AMD Athlon Dual-Core (2 cores) is carp compared to the i5 dude, The i5 you posted is at least 3/4 times more powerfull, better chip AMD v Intel Core , no comparison , better HardDrive , much better Processor.

I'd take the Asus over the Sony if it was me mate

Defo. i5 is quad, the Athlon 2core won't hold a candle to it. Slower, smaller cache and less cores = less win.

Stevie...LOTS

[0gris]

Just ordered a new laptop from the dell outlet, any ideas how many leagues this would run?

intel Core i7-2630QM processor 2.00 GHz
8 GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz (2 DIMMs)
2GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M Graphics card

As many as you'd want to really. Crazy specs for a laptop.

[el duderino]

Hi, I'm planning on buying FM12 when it's released, how many leagues and players am I looking at (I like really long games LLM-style)?

Intel Core 2 Duo E6700
4 GB DDR2 RAM
AMD 6750 1GB
Windows 7

Thanks

[0gris]

Hi, I'm planning on buying FM12 when it's released, how many leagues and players am I looking at (I like really long games LLM-style)?

Intel Core 2 Duo E6700
4 GB DDR2 RAM
AMD 6750 1GB
Windows 7

Thanks

It wont exactly be amazing but you could easily probably run around 20-30 leagues. Depending on if you overclocked your processor or not. A bit of a shame that it's a weak component as the rest of the PC(at least the specs you provided) seems to be pretty good.

[el duderino]

It wont exactly be amazing but you could easily probably run around 20-30 leagues. Depending on if you overclocked your processor or not. A bit of a shame that it's a weak component as the rest of the PC(at least the specs you provided) seems to be pretty good.

Thank you. Yes, forgot to write that it's overclocked from default 2.67 to 3.15 GHz. Will that make any significant change?

[wfc_collins]

it will support it..but..

Its a single core (obsolete now) so running multiple tasks will be impossible and being a Celeron chip , I wouldnt touch that with a bargepole.

RAMS V good , just running FM on its own should be pretty fast , hard drives a tad small and the graphics chip would even struggle to run high resolution games from 2008/2009 , don't think it run FM 3D smoothly.

Personally , I'd go for a more higher spec.

hope that helps

cheers for the reply, I did think that it would'nt run fm 2012 but just wanted to double check on here before I ordered it

[0gris]

Thank you. Yes, forgot to write that it's overclocked from default 2.67 to 3.15 GHz. Will that make any significant change?

Should help quite a bit with the processing speed. It depends on what you consider fast but really, i wouldnt go above 50 leagues personally(should be PLENTY regardless). It wont move along blazingly fast but it wont take forever to advance the game.

[mojo_pin1]

Hey...

I posted this in it's own thread but thoughts it might get a few more eyes over here and more opinion the better, any help would be muchly appreciated...

""Hers the ones I'm looking at: i know a guy who works at JB & can get me most of them 50-80 cheaper most likely going to get it from there

If you could tell me what is the best over all, best value for money, the difference between AMD Duel Core & i-3 i-5 i-7 when it comes to FM That would just be fantastic!!

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/compu...otebook/633409

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/compu...y-scoop/656618

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/compu...otebook/654514

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/compu...y-scoop/656621


There is also this one but not sure if my Budget would stretch http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/55023


This is the spec for my All-In-One, if i could something for similar performance that would be perfect

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name WHITTY-PC
System Manufacturer HP-Pavilion
System Model BK310AA-ABG 200-5020a
System Type X86-based PC
Processor Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5400 @ 2.70GHz, 2700 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)



THANKS again for everyone's help!! ""

[phnompenhandy]

Hi , let me know how you get on when its delivered m8

The demo is running beautifully. The 3D is very smooth, even got the outside stadium graphics - sweet.

It's on auto in Preferences and the only thing unticked is ' deep of field' or whatever it's called. What exactly does that mean? Does it give the pitch a more 3D look?

[stevie_G_32201]

Hey...

I posted this in it's own thread but thoughts it might get a few more eyes over here and more opinion the better, any help would be muchly appreciated...

""Hers the ones I'm looking at: i know a guy who works at JB & can get me most of them 50-80 cheaper most likely going to get it from there

If you could tell me what is the best over all, best value for money, the difference between AMD Duel Core & i-3 i-5 i-7 when it comes to FM That would just be fantastic!!

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/compu...otebook/633409

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/compu...y-scoop/656618

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/compu...otebook/654514

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/compu...y-scoop/656621


There is also this one but not sure if my Budget would stretch http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/55023


This is the spec for my All-In-One, if i could something for similar performance that would be perfect

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name WHITTY-PC
System Manufacturer HP-Pavilion
System Model BK310AA-ABG 200-5020a
System Type X86-based PC
Processor Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5400 @ 2.70GHz, 2700 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)



THANKS again for everyone's help!! ""

In my opinion, you should go for the i7.

[mojo_pin1]

In my opinion, you should go for the i7.

Thanks for the reply do you mean the one in the JBHI-FIOnline link or the other link, they are both i-7s

[0gris]

The demo is running beautifully. The 3D is very smooth, even got the outside stadium graphics - sweet.

It's on auto in Preferences and the only thing unticked is ' deep of field' or whatever it's called. What exactly does that mean? Does it give the pitch a more 3D look?

Auto basicaly sets it to what it thinks your PC will run at(basically, locked 60 FPS for best performance). Depth of field is only available on high settings, meaning yours is locked at medium possibly. As for what it does it sort of makes everything around the focus point of the camera sort of blurry adding an ilussion of depth. Not really worth it IMO.

[stevie_G_32201]

Thanks for the reply do you mean the one in the JBHI-FIOnline link or the other link, they are both i-7s

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/compu...otebook/654514

This is the one i meant.

[phnompenhandy]

Auto basicaly sets it to what it thinks your PC will run at(basically, locked 60 FPS for best performance). Depth of field is only available on high settings, meaning yours is locked at medium possibly. As for what it does it sort of makes everything around the focus point of the camera sort of blurry adding an ilussion of depth. Not really worth it IMO.

Ah cheers. Sounds like a nice little touch, but I'm good with what I've got. With the new career setting, I won't load up more than a dozen leagues (possibly a few more if I load uncle ron's L8 English file) so I don't anticipate a slowy with this new rig.

[stevie_G_32201]

Just ordered a new laptop from the dell outlet, any ideas how many leagues this would run?

intel Core i7-2630QM processor 2.00 GHz
6 GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz (2 DIMMs)
2GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M Graphics card

It's been shipped

[Lambo95]

would this be any good for FM. Decentish speed?

Acer Aspire One D257 10.1 Inch Netbook - White.

•Intel Atom single core N455 processor.
•Processor speed 1.66GHz.
•1GB DDR3 RAM.
•250GB SATA hard drive.

[stevie_G_32201]

would this be any good for FM. Decentish speed?

Acer Aspire One D257 10.1 Inch Netbook - White.

•Intel Atom single core N455 processor.
•Processor speed 1.66GHz.
•1GB DDR3 RAM.
•250GB SATA hard drive.

You would struggle very much if it starts at all.

[Lambo95]

You would struggle very much if it starts at all.

That's a shame. NOt even a few leagues?

[stevie_G_32201]

That's a shame. NOt even a few leagues?

The only way to find out for sure is download the demo and try that.


www.systemrequirementslab.com is also good for that.

[Lambo95]

Don't actully have it. I am just browsing.

[0gris]

In general, single core in this day and age is such a massive avoid it's unreal, Or dual core for that matter(unless it's an i series)

[robbiecraigstart]

hi all, been searching round for a new desktop.. basically need the works monitor, keyboard etc.. my budget is £500 max, can anyone point me n the right direction please? would be a great help

[slipknot67]

I'm replacing my >5 year old 2 Gig Ram pc with this, (should be delivered tomorrow). Only thing I need to do is install an OS. Got a windows 7 home premium 64bit disk ready and waiting for the arrival of the machine. I'm not too clued up in regards to computer techy stuff, so was hoping to find out from more tech minded sorts in here if I've got my hands on a bargain that'll run FM12 no probs or if I've just wasted £200?

Processor

• Intel Pentium Dual Core E5800 Processor 3.2Ghz
• 2MB Cache

Memory

• 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz
• Configuration 1 x 4GB
  
• Expandable to 8GB
• 2 x DIMM slot

Hard Drive

• 1TB (1x1TB) SATA II

Optical Drive

• Super multi DVDRW

Software

• Operating System: None

Display

• Monitor not included

Input Devices

• Keyboard and Mouse Not Included

Networking

• Network Interface: 10/100/1000

Dimensions

• Depth 450 mm
• Width 180 mm
• Height 360 mm

Interfaces

• 3 x Audio jacks
  
• 1 x PS/2 keyboard port
• 1 x PS/2 mouse port
• 1 x Serial port
• 6 x USB 2.0 ports
• 1 x RJ45 LAN port
• 1 x VGA port

http://www.ebuyer.com/251310-extra-v...ktop-7873-1036

[rivaldo29]

Hi. I bought the following laptop a couple of months ago. I have not bought any FM version since 2007 (!) and I am interested if this one would be good for FM 12. I do not intend to load lots of leagues, but I do plan a long term save.

The demo runs fine, except that I can not run 3d matches because the screen freezes.


Dell Inspiron N 7110

Intel (R) Core (TM) i7 2630 QM CPU @ 2.00 Ghz
6 GB RAM

NVIDIA Geforce GT 525 M 1 GB

Thanks.

[stevie_G_32201]

Hi. I bought the following laptop a couple of months ago. I have not bought any FM version since 2007 (!) and I am interested if this laptop would be good for FM 12. I do not intend to load lots of leagues, but i do plan a long term save.

The demo runs fine, except that I can not run 3d matches because the screen freezes.


Dell Inspiron N 7110

Intel (R) Core (TM) i7 2630 QM CPU @ 2.00 Ghz
6 GB RAM

NVIDIA Geforce GT 525 M 1 GB

Thanks.

Will be fine, also update your graphics card drivers.

[masticator]

can anyone who knows anything about desktops cast their eye over these and recommend one (preferably under £500!) thanks.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Browse...7C14419114.htm

[ShootTheRunner]

Hi, can someone check out this laptop and tell me if it will be any good for FM12?

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/acer-as...83822-pdt.html

Thanks.

[Ishu]

Decent.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/dell-in...62071-pdt.html
Better brand and CPU.

[Blue_magic]

On fm 12 how many leagues

AMd 965 x4 3.4 ghz
Ram: 4gb
Windows 7 64 bit

[Ishu]

45 .

[ShootTheRunner]

How many leagues do you think that one you recommended me could run?

[Ishu]

25 - 30

[ShootTheRunner]

Oh cool, I'd be happy with that. Thanks Ishu.

[Blue_magic]

45 .

Thanks, what a legend.

[awade]

Hi guys,

Considering 2 laptops which are pretty much the same apart from the processor, Samsung build, 6gb RAM.

One of them has a Intel Core i5-2430 processor (Clock speed 2.4ghz, dual core)

And the other has an AMD A6-3410MX processor(Clock speed 1.8 ghz, quad core)

Do you think it will make much difference to running FM11/12 which one I get?

Guess the Intel will be generally faster at running the game due to the higher clock speed, but have heard the AMD's have better in-built graphics so will run the 3d better?

Cheers for any recommendations

[Ishu]

Both are good enough for 3D and good enough for FM.
I would get the one that has better extras (HDD, RAM etc).

[TheYorkshireKing]

Im looking at replacing my laptop with one of either of these

Intel® Core™ i3-2310M processor (2.1 GHz, 3 MB L3 cache) with a dedicated HD Radeon 6490m 1gb, and 4GB RAM (although I may boost to 8gb) 204 Pin SO DIMM DDR3 PC3-10600 1333MHz

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavi...83799-pdt.html



or a 1st Gen Intel® Core™ i5-460M Processor
- 2.53 GHz
- 2.5 GT/s DMI
- 3MB Smart Cache

with NVIDIA® GeForce® GTS 310M-1GB, and 4gb RAM

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/toshiba...27280-pdt.html


So any tips? 2nd gen i3, or 1st gen i5 and which graphics card?

Im off to buy it in the morning......

I want to be able to run plenty of leagues, players and get a good rating for FM2012 and the older versions.

Cheers in advance

[jetpack23]

getting a new laptop are these specs ok


Processor Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM (2 GHz (2.9GHz max turbo freq), 6 MB L3 Smart Cache)
- 5 GT/s DMI
- Quad Core
Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit
RAM 8 GB DDR3
Graphics card Dedicated AMD Radeon HD 6490M
Screen type HD+ High-Definition LED HP BrightView Display
Screen resolution 1600 x 900
Screen size 17.3"
Hard drive 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 5400 rpm
Optical disk drive Blu-ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD±R/RW Double Layer
Memory card reader Multi-Format Digital Media Card Reader
USB 2 x USB 2.0 and 2 x USB 3.0
Modem/Ethernet Integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN
WiFi Intel 802.11 b/g/n
1030 WW+BT-WIDI capable
Bluetooth Yes
Video interface 1 x HDMI
1 x VGA
Audio interface 2 headphone-out and 1 microphone-in
Sound Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Integrated Digital Microphone
Webcam Yes
Battery 6-cell Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) battery
Additional features Fingerprint reader
One-touch internet function
Software included "This PC is optimized for Microsoft® Office 2010. Purchase a
Product Key Card or Disc to activate full-featured Office software
preloaded on this PC.
HP QuickWeb
HP QuickSynch
HP CloudDrive (30-days trial)
HP Setup
HP Support Assistant
Cyberlink DVD suite
HP Games Console
HP Connection Manager
Windows Live Applications
Microsoft Internet Explorer
Windows Live Messenger
Adobe Reader
Adobe Flash Player"
Size 416 x 275 x 36 mm
Weight 3 kg

[Ishu]

Im looking at replacing my laptop with one of either of these

Intel® Core™ i3-2310M processor (2.1 GHz, 3 MB L3 cache) with a dedicated HD Radeon 6490m 1gb, and 4GB RAM (although I may boost to 8gb) 204 Pin SO DIMM DDR3 PC3-10600 1333MHz

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavi...83799-pdt.html



or a 1st Gen Intel® Core™ i5-460M Processor
- 2.53 GHz
- 2.5 GT/s DMI
- 3MB Smart Cache

with NVIDIA® GeForce® GTS 310M-1GB, and 4gb RAM

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/toshiba...27280-pdt.html


So any tips? 2nd gen i3, or 1st gen i5 and which graphics card?

Im off to buy it in the morning......

I want to be able to run plenty of leagues, players and get a good rating for FM2012 and the older versions.

Cheers in advance

i3 and 6490M

[Ishu]

getting a new laptop are these specs ok


Processor Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM (2 GHz (2.9GHz max turbo freq), 6 MB L3 Smart Cache)
- 5 GT/s DMI
- Quad Core
Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit
RAM 8 GB DDR3
Graphics card Dedicated AMD Radeon HD 6490M
Screen type HD+ High-Definition LED HP BrightView Display
Screen resolution 1600 x 900
Screen size 17.3"
Hard drive 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 5400 rpm

Good CPU, but a FHD screen and a better GFX card might be available for the same price.

[TheYorkshireKing]

Anyone got advice for either a

HP Pavilion dv6-6176sa

Intel® Core™ i3-2310M processor (2.1 GHz, 3 MB L3 cache) with a dedicated HD Radeon 6490m 1gb, and 4GB RAM (although I may boost to 8gb) 204 Pin SO DIMM DDR3 PC3-10600 1333MHz


or a

Sony VAIO VPCEH1S0E 15

Intel® Core™ i5-2410M Processor
- 2.30 GHz with Turbo Boost
- up to 2.90 GHz
- 3MB L3 Cache

but with Intel 3000 HD integrated graphics

or thirdly

Lenovo Ideapad Z570

with a i5-2410M
- 2.3 GHz Clock Speed
- 3MB Cache

4GB RAM and Intel 3000 HD graphics


HELP!

[Ishu]

If 3D is important and you wouldn't want to upgrade for a few years, HP.
If you use 2D, Sony/Lenovo.

Don't upgrade to 8GB though. You wouldn't need it.

[TheYorkshireKing]

If 3D is important and you wouldn't want to upgrade for a few years, HP.
If you use 2D, Sony/Lenovo.

Don't upgrade to 8GB though. You wouldn't need it.

Cheers Ishu (are you some kinda pc expert?)

The RAM will help with other tasks including photo editing and video software


Ive also found a HP Pavilion dv6-6052ea with a i7-2630QM with a potential Radeon 6490M



Edit

The 6052sa was in clearance, but seems to have gone.............Bugger - would have run FM2012 beautifully

[welloso1]

Right, lets say I decide to use our Christmas money savings to go to pc world tomorrow, and lets just pretend that the missus wont mind at all :

Layman's terms, what do I need to be looking for? All I want is to be able to run 30 or so leagues, with full , high detailed 3d possible.

Cheers

[0gris]

Cheers Ishu (are you some kinda pc expert?)

The RAM will help with other tasks including photo editing and video software

Ram on your graphics card and a proper dedicated video/photo editing card would do you a whole lot better than 4 gigs of extra ram(Then again, i REALLY dont recommend doing any of those on a laptop; You need a beefy rig for video editing and even photo editing for that matter). Besides; 8 shiny gigs of ram looks flashy and all but really, you'd never use up all of them(you'd have to try really hard). Computer components are all related to each other. You can't have one that stands out and the rest mediocre, it'll drag down the performance. Go for the lenovo/sony vaio, you can nearly max out the graphics(and if you don't mind slightly choppy gameplay, you could).

Welloso. You're looking for a 2500k and a 560Ti(could get a slightly worse card if you dont plan on playing a lot of games, perhaps something like a radeon 5770?). Don't blow all your money on a PC when you wont use it to it's full potential. A rig with those specs(no screen or anything external, already assuming you have that) will run you around 500 quid and will give you some very good performance. If you're into it, an overclocked 2500k is utterly insane.

[MightyBlade]

Hi
How many leagues could this run;
Intel dual core t4020 2ghz
3gb ram

Thanks

[Ishu]

T4020 ?

[MightyBlade]

T4020 ?

Apologies it says intel dual core t4200 @ 2.0ghz

[Ishu]

15 .

[mattyspurs]

I run about 20-25 leagues. Nations usually all english leagues inc. lower ones and then top leagues of scotland, spain, italy, france, germany, holland. Sometimes brazil league to. I then use the 'Huge' database thats around online to download and use. This gives me 60-70000 players. It reduces the stars down to 1 star.

E8200 O/C to 3.2ghz, 4GB 800mhz Memory, ATI 3850 512mb GPU, W7 Ultimate 64Bit.

[TheYorkshireKing]

Ram on your graphics card and a proper dedicated video/photo editing card would do you a whole lot better than 4 gigs of extra ram(Then again, i REALLY dont recommend doing any of those on a laptop; You need a beefy rig for video editing and even photo editing for that matter). Besides; 8 shiny gigs of ram looks flashy and all but really, you'd never use up all of them(you'd have to try really hard). Computer components are all related to each other. You can't have one that stands out and the rest mediocre, it'll drag down the performance. Go for the lenovo/sony vaio, you can nearly max out the graphics(and if you don't mind slightly choppy gameplay, you could).

Is the 2nd gen i5 chip with Integrated graphics, much more than a 2nd gen i3 with 1gb of dedicated graphics??

[Ishu]

1gb of dedicated graphics??

That could be anything.

[0gris]

Is the 2nd gen i5 chip with Integrated graphics, much more than a 2nd gen i3 with 1gb of dedicated graphics??

Dedicated graphics will always be faster. However the sand bridge graphic chips are quite strong you're better off going with an i5 and suffering the 5-10 FPS loss.

[TheYorkshireKing]

That could be anything.

Dedicated graphics will always be faster. However the sand bridge graphic chips are quite strong you're better off going with an i5 and suffering the 5-10 FPS loss.

its a AMD Radeon HD 6490M 1gb card

[0gris]

I'd still go with the i5. A faster processor goes a longer way with FM. But if you prefer 3D performance by all means, go for the dedicated card.

[TheYorkshireKing]

I'd still go with the i5. A faster processor goes a longer way with FM. But if you prefer 3D performance by all means, go for the dedicated card.

Im all about the 2D and watching the dots run about in the FM series, but Id still like to see the 3D if i choose to in all its (so i hear) power hungry glory.



but Ive never owned a laptop without decent dedicated graphics and wonder and worry about the Intel 3000HD being able to process HD footage, or DVD's and iplayer type stuff, and run future software.......

Its gotta last me a fair few years......


May go with this Toshiba satellite L775

i5 2430M 2.4 ghz, 6gb RAM

Intel 3000HD integrated graphics with upto 1696mb (guess thats borrowed from the RAM)



So, should that run me a huge database and lots of leagues on FM2012 and power through the seasons fast???

and what about earlier versions, like FM10, and the CM 01-02 / 03-04 series??

[0gris]

A fair few years in what terms? Computers get outdated horribly fast. Your i5 will be slow in about 5 months when the new processors come out but yes.

The intel 3000HD will handle anything you throw at it easily(regarding dvds HD videos and stuff like that) so that's not an issue. Those specs sound O.K for a laptop.

As for the RAM, Vram and regular ram is completely different. "up to 1696mb" is 6GB regular+1696 video ram, however don't really count on it actually being that high. Regardless, for FM it's waaaaaaaaaay more than enough, especially 2D. And it isn't important at all unless you heavily use photoshop/play video games(which you really shouldnt on a laptop).

[TheYorkshireKing]

Cheers

I do use Photoshop CS-5/Illustrator through work and plan on using music editing software...... so i wonder if they will be the straw that breaks the intel 3000's back.

[blades725]

could anyone help me my fm12 will only let me play 2d graphics i find this strange as fm11 was perfect with the graphics on 3d match engine my graphics card is an ati radeon 9200 256k its really frustrating me