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    Quote Originally Posted by Barside View Post
    I've been running an i7-920 clocked to 3.8Ghz for over 2 years without any trouble, as z42bn6 has said it's all about keeping the cpu cool.

    You wouldn't add a sports turbo to a car without installing an intercooler or upgrading the radiator. That one was for you Kriss.
    indeed ive seen an i7 clocked to extreme levels with an oil based cooling system , just for demonstration purposes... its all about the cooling , and tbh.. cooling is the number one issue with most gaming desktops and especially laptops (which i know a large amount of people are using for fm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by antg1985 View Post
    Just bought this, loaded up FM and first impressions are brilliant, I have never had a laptop so good.

    What do you guys think?

    How many leagues?

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    very similar to my lappy actually.. your processor is slightly better than mine actually.. its a sandy bridge model which is excellent.. obviously the gpu and everything is perfectly fine aswell.. and the ram is more than you'll actually need for fm also...

    ive run all leagues and all players as an experiment on mine and although slow to load initially , it runs at a steady rate while playing.. but obviously thats at extremes , id suggest not foing that much lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by welshace View Post
    well seeing as that isnt answering his question.. i will

    'better' is the wrong term. but fm is a processor intensive program so a decent processor is certainly more important than masses of ram...

    and yes... fm is 32 bit so any more than 2-3 ram is needless for it
    Thanks welshace.

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    I wouldn't sacrifice too much RAM for a better processor... Get at least 4 GB, even though Football Manager doesn't use it. Windows knows how to use lots of RAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevie_G_32201 View Post
    Quick question, With a game like Fm which is better, better processor or more ram?
    Generally speaking, better processor. You can play just about any sane type of save on 2GB RAM and are completely covered on 4GB, for reasons already stated by others. Any more would be to accommodate more processes running at the same time as FM. 4GB is a pretty nice price/performance sweet spot right now for anyone on a budget.
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    thinking of buying this,what do you guys recon..

    Acer 5742 Laptop (Intel Core i5, 5GB, 500GB, 15.6" Display) Black

    N/AActive Area Width mmN/AAudio FeaturesYes with analogue outputBattery Life in HoursUp to 3 hours 30minsBlank Discs Case IncludedNoBluetoothNoBrandAcerBuilt-in WebcamYesCache Memory in Mb3MBCard Reader TypeSDColourBlackDial Up ModemNoExternal Sata InterfaceNoFeatures of ProductIf you want a laptop that will provide pure entertainment and power then you need the Acer Aspire 5742 laptop. Just to prove it’s at the forefront of technology it comes with the brand new Windows 7 operating system, so you know you’ll be strides ahead of everyone else. It’s driven by an Intel Core i5 processor with a speedy 5GB RAM giving you unmatched performance no matter what your task. With a massive 500GB hard drive to store all your files on too, you can be confident that you’ll be prepared for any eventualityFinger Print ReaderNoFirewireNoGraphics ChipsetUMAGraphics TypeSharedHard Drive Size500GBHard Drive Type2.5" SATA 5400rpm with 16MB CacheInterfaceUSB 2.0Letter RecognitionNoMemory Size5GBMemory TypeDDR3Number of USB Ports3Operating SystemMicrosoft Windows® 7 Home Premium 64 bitOptical Drive Compatible TypeNoOptical Drive Dual Layer CompatibleYesOptical Drive Hd-dvd CompatibleNoOptical Drive Lightscribe CompatibleNoOptical Drive TypeDVD dual layer rewriterOs Recovery Discs IncludedNoOutputHDMI (HDCP compliant)Power Adaptor IncludedYesPressure SensitiveNoProcessorIntel® Core™ i5Processor Model NumberIntel® Core™ i5-480MProcessor Speed in GHz2.66Product Depth25.3 cmProduct Height3.4 cmProduct Weight UnitskgProduct Width38.1 cmRemote Control IncludedNoScreen Size In Inches15.6Screen TypeLED

    your feedback would be appreciated. can get it for £399

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    Quote Originally Posted by tugboat View Post
    thinking of buying this,what do you guys recon..

    Acer 5742 Laptop (Intel Core i5, 5GB, 500GB, 15.6" Display) Black

    N/AActive Area Width mmN/AAudio FeaturesYes with analogue outputBattery Life in HoursUp to 3 hours 30minsBlank Discs Case IncludedNoBluetoothNoBrandAcerBuilt-in WebcamYesCache Memory in Mb3MBCard Reader TypeSDColourBlackDial Up ModemNoExternal Sata InterfaceNoFeatures of ProductIf you want a laptop that will provide pure entertainment and power then you need the Acer Aspire 5742 laptop. Just to prove it’s at the forefront of technology it comes with the brand new Windows 7 operating system, so you know you’ll be strides ahead of everyone else. It’s driven by an Intel Core i5 processor with a speedy 5GB RAM giving you unmatched performance no matter what your task. With a massive 500GB hard drive to store all your files on too, you can be confident that you’ll be prepared for any eventualityFinger Print ReaderNoFirewireNoGraphics ChipsetUMAGraphics TypeSharedHard Drive Size500GBHard Drive Type2.5" SATA 5400rpm with 16MB CacheInterfaceUSB 2.0Letter RecognitionNoMemory Size5GBMemory TypeDDR3Number of USB Ports3Operating SystemMicrosoft Windows® 7 Home Premium 64 bitOptical Drive Compatible TypeNoOptical Drive Dual Layer CompatibleYesOptical Drive Hd-dvd CompatibleNoOptical Drive Lightscribe CompatibleNoOptical Drive TypeDVD dual layer rewriterOs Recovery Discs IncludedNoOutputHDMI (HDCP compliant)Power Adaptor IncludedYesPressure SensitiveNoProcessorIntel® Core™ i5Processor Model NumberIntel® Core™ i5-480MProcessor Speed in GHz2.66Product Depth25.3 cmProduct Height3.4 cmProduct Weight UnitskgProduct Width38.1 cmRemote Control IncludedNoScreen Size In Inches15.6Screen TypeLED

    your feedback would be appreciated. can get it for £399
    The specs are pretty decent for the price but, im not a fan of Acer.

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    Acer tend to be very shoddy in regards to build quality rather than spec from personal experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by tugboat View Post
    thinking of buying this,what do you guys recon..

    Acer 5742 Laptop (Intel Core i5, 5GB, 500GB, 15.6" Display) Black

    N/AActive Area Width mmN/AAudio FeaturesYes with analogue outputBattery Life in HoursUp to 3 hours 30minsBlank Discs Case IncludedNoBluetoothNoBrandAcerBuilt-in WebcamYesCache Memory in Mb3MBCard Reader TypeSDColourBlackDial Up ModemNoExternal Sata InterfaceNoFeatures of ProductIf you want a laptop that will provide pure entertainment and power then you need the Acer Aspire 5742 laptop. Just to prove it’s at the forefront of technology it comes with the brand new Windows 7 operating system, so you know you’ll be strides ahead of everyone else. It’s driven by an Intel Core i5 processor with a speedy 5GB RAM giving you unmatched performance no matter what your task. With a massive 500GB hard drive to store all your files on too, you can be confident that you’ll be prepared for any eventualityFinger Print ReaderNoFirewireNoGraphics ChipsetUMAGraphics TypeSharedHard Drive Size500GBHard Drive Type2.5" SATA 5400rpm with 16MB CacheInterfaceUSB 2.0Letter RecognitionNoMemory Size5GBMemory TypeDDR3Number of USB Ports3Operating SystemMicrosoft Windows® 7 Home Premium 64 bitOptical Drive Compatible TypeNoOptical Drive Dual Layer CompatibleYesOptical Drive Hd-dvd CompatibleNoOptical Drive Lightscribe CompatibleNoOptical Drive TypeDVD dual layer rewriterOs Recovery Discs IncludedNoOutputHDMI (HDCP compliant)Power Adaptor IncludedYesPressure SensitiveNoProcessorIntel® Core™ i5Processor Model NumberIntel® Core™ i5-480MProcessor Speed in GHz2.66Product Depth25.3 cmProduct Height3.4 cmProduct Weight UnitskgProduct Width38.1 cmRemote Control IncludedNoScreen Size In Inches15.6Screen TypeLED

    your feedback would be appreciated. can get it for £399
    how many leagues and players would be able to be loaded with this lappy

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    Hi!

    I run game with highest settings and get 4.5 stars in 3D with an laptop with i7 2630 and GT540 m graphic card. I get constant 60 fps in games but still game feels a little slow and is choppy at times. What could be wrong? Other games runs fine without the slowness, choppiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doraso View Post
    Hi!

    I run game with highest settings and get 4.5 stars in 3D with an laptop with i7 2630 and GT540 m graphic card. I get constant 60 fps in games but still game feels a little slow and is choppy at times. What could be wrong? Other games runs fine without the slowness, choppiness.

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    update your graphics drivers

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    Hi!

    Have the latest drivers

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    Have a look at this thread, found in the FAQ index in the bugs forum.

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    Hi again!

    Thx!

    An update on this, when going windowed mode it runs perfectly, but as soon as I switch to fullscreen the choppyness starts. Strange isnt it?

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    I have played a few games now in 3D and my graphics card crashes, it says it stopped responding but has now recovered, why would this be? have I hot it set up wrong?

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    I have played a few games now in 3D and my graphics card crashes, it says it stopped responding but has now recovered, why would this be? have I hot it set up wrong?

    Inspiron N5110 (FCG41) - i5-2410 (2.30GHz, 3MB cache, Dual Core)
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    Hi!

    Had the same problem before I updated my graphic drivers. It is the Nvidia Optimus solution that isnt working correctly. Try to update drivers.

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    Will my laptop be able to run fm2011 and fm 2012 when it comes out? (i know its not great specs lol)
    Intel Pentium Dual Core P6100 processor r, 4GB RAM, 500GB hard drive
    thanks in advance

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    Sure. It won't be blazing fast but it will run. Do you know what graphics chip is in it? That would be what affects whether/how well you can run the 3D match engine.

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    God damn that was a fast reply lol, not really sure about the card tbh, its a Samsung R730 tho if that helps. plus how many league would be safe to run with it still being fast-ish?

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    If you go Start > Run > dxdiag and then check the "Display" tab in the window that pops up, what does it say for Name, Chip Type and Total Memory?

    Number of leagues would be one for Ishu. I've no clue how he estimates that.

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    Intel GMA 4500M, 32MB is that what you wanted? (sorry i'm hopeless when it comes to computers)
    this is the one, it will probably inform you better than i can lol http://www.which.co.uk/technology/co...pecifications/

    thanks for your help btw, very kind of you
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    Yeah you'll be on the lower end, but that should work going by the FM11 system requirements. Ishu seems to think it can do medium quality.

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    ah ok, thankyou very much and too ishu

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    Quote Originally Posted by welshace View Post
    well seeing as that isnt answering his question.. i will

    'better' is the wrong term. but fm is a processor intensive program so a decent processor is certainly more important than masses of ram...

    and yes... fm is 32 bit so any more than 2-3 ram is needless for it
    just on this

    and anyone can answer this if you know

    so given its a 32bit program and can therefore use only 3GB, would it still be right to say that having 8GB on a windows 7 64GB system still benefits FM gameplay because other applications and windows itself, can use the excess ram leaving an entire 3GB for FM?

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    Fun question, what kind of specs would be required to run every league from every nation.

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    SI claim it isn't possible possible.

    I have been running all nations (only European, South/Central/Noth American leagues playable) & a 311,000 start up player databse, has taken 6 days 18 hours to get to July 2014 (as an LLM player I do take my time with the game). I am experiencing problems with low memory warnings but I feel that is less an issue with my system & more the short-comings of the 32 bit game code.

    It the interest a providing a useful comparison I have full detail processing for all international matches, all club (inter)continental competitions & all domestic competitions other than reserve leagues for the nation that I currently manage in.

    OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
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    System Manufacturer System manufacturer
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    System Type x64-based PC
    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz, 3800 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
    BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 0403, 19/05/2009
    SMBIOS Version 2.5
    Windows Directory C:\Windows
    System Directory C:\Windows\system32
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    Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514"
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    Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 6.00 GB
    Total Physical Memory 5.99 GB
    Available Physical Memory 2.71 GB
    Total Virtual Memory 12.0 GB
    Available Virtual Memory 8.26 GB
    Page File Space 5.99 GB
    Page File C:\pagefile.sys

    Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4890
    Display Memory: 3826 MB
    Dedicated Memory: 1014 MB
    Shared Memory: 2811 MB

    FM09 & 10 were also fine when running all league saves on this rig but again the limitations of 32bit code caused problems with physical & virtual memory allocation.
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    Help, really want a monster multi country career game on FM12

    Laptop is Win 7 64 bit home. 8gb RAM i5 2520M CPU 2.5 Ghz GT 520M GForce Nvidia card

    How many leagues?

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    is the Intel Pentium Dual Core P6100 processor faster than the amd sempron processor 3000?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barside View Post
    Thanks, link was very helpful

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    Hi sir Ishu,i've got 2 laptops not so fast in CPU ghz..i'd like to know about the number of league:
    1- Hp cpu Core2 duo 1.3 (dx diag says 2 cpu 1.3 each ????),3 GB ram and nvidia G105M with 512 Mb
    2- HP i7 Q720 1.6ghz (2.86 with auto boost) 4 GB ram and a Nvidia GT230M.
    I'm scared about the 2.0 Ghz requested from official announcment..I'm from FMlive and didnt bought Fm offline from 2009.
    Thanx guys

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    Ignore the Ghz rating as it confuses the issue, from what I recall the minimum specifications of 2ghz refers to a single core cpu such as a Pentium 4.

    Due to the RAM you should not play FM on the Core2Duo machine, the i7 processor you have in the second laptop is a solid performer in the mobile market & will outperform many desktop systems that a large proportion of the FM community are playing.

    passmark rating of 214th

    As for number of leagues none of us can honestly answer that question, it will run a very sizeable game with ease but the final test is hwo quick you want that game to run, with the inclusion of the add/remove league function you can start an FM12 save with a modest number of say 20 leagues & then adjust it to your liking as the game progresses.
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    Thanx Barside,you save me from a big doubt..i'll try an honest 25 leagues and begin a journeyman career on a great LLM mode..cheers mate

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    Glad to have helped & if you follow the path of Frank pop by the LLM forum sometime.

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    Got my Quad Core for for FM12, should be mighty fast Not sure if I should install my 64 bit Operating System instead of the normal 32, I do have 4GB of Ram but will it even make any difference for FM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chriisy View Post
    Got my Quad Core for for FM12, should be mighty fast Not sure if I should install my 64 bit Operating System instead of the normal 32, I do have 4GB of Ram but will it even make any difference for FM
    Keep with 32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevie_G_32201 View Post
    Keep with 32.
    I take it there's not much of a difference with 64 then .

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    Can anyone reccomend a laptop that can run around about 30-40 leagues, 3-D, and is under £300?

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    Nope, you really need to look at saving another £100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambo95 View Post
    Can anyone reccomend a laptop that can run around about 30-40 leagues, 3-D, and is under £300?
    Good luck with that.

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    Infact, I don't think that I'll need naywhere near that many leagues in FM12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevie_G_32201 View Post
    Keep with 32.
    Bad idea really, the 64-bit OS is backwards-compatible with 32-bit software and you will get a performance boost with a 64-bit OS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x42bn6 View Post
    Bad idea really, the 64-bit OS is backwards-compatible with 32-bit software and you will get a performance boost with a 64-bit OS.
    I always thought that unless you have enough ram to take advantage of the 64 bit, stay at 32?

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    Would an Acer Aspire 5333 run FM well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevie_G_32201 View Post
    I always thought that unless you have enough ram to take advantage of the 64 bit, stay at 32?
    Get 64-bit anyway, since a PC usually lasts 4 years on average and in 4 years time there will be loads more 64-bit software out there.

    64-bit Windows in theory will run slightly quicker as it knows how to use the additional registers and theoretically offers twice the bandwidth if you have multiple cores in your processor, although in practice it's about the same.

    The only real reason against 64-bit is driver support which is very good nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chriisy View Post
    Got my Quad Core for for FM12, should be mighty fast Not sure if I should install my 64 bit Operating System instead of the normal 32, I do have 4GB of Ram but will it even make any difference for FM
    You need 64bit to use all 4gb of RAM. Extra RAM won't necessarily speed up FM any more but it'll make multitasking much smoother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingsheep View Post
    You need 64bit to use all 4gb of RAM. Extra RAM won't necessarily speed up FM any more but it'll make multitasking much smoother.
    True enough but not strictly accurate and slightly misleading - you want more cores for smoother multitasking and 32bit addresses about 3.8gb.

    You really want 64bit for multi-core processors and over 4gb of ram

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    Having a ME problem, namely it's a bit jerky and annoying. I know my graphic's are on high because i set them that way, i have an Intel Pentium D 2.80ghz processor, 3GB ram, a 256MB GeForce 7500 LE graphic's card..... It seems to be well above the requirements to play the game and not have a crappy ME experience. Stadiums, backgrounds, player names, weather are all on because i want them on. Any suggestions on how i can get it running smoother without dialing down the detail of the match engine?

    I'm suspecting it may be down to my crappy graphic's card but i'm not the most tech savvy so someone in the know enlighten me with what the issue could be before i go and panic buy a graphic's card lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambo95 View Post
    Would an Acer Aspire 5333 run FM well?
    I have a 5553, Quad core, 3gb RAM and that ran FM11 brilliantly even with 60+ leagues, large DB and about 90k of players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt_no_7 View Post
    Having a ME problem, namely it's a bit jerky and annoying. I know my graphic's are on high because i set them that way, i have an Intel Pentium D 2.80ghz processor, 3GB ram, a 256MB GeForce 7500 LE graphic's card..... It seems to be well above the requirements to play the game and not have a crappy ME experience. Stadiums, backgrounds, player names, weather are all on because i want them on. Any suggestions on how i can get it running smoother without dialing down the detail of the match engine?

    I'm suspecting it may be down to my crappy graphic's card but i'm not the most tech savvy so someone in the know enlighten me with what the issue could be before i go and panic buy a graphic's card lol
    You're correct, the graphics card is below minimum spec's

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    My onboard graphics just won't run the the 3D at all Can anybody recommend a graphics card for about £30-40 that will?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barside View Post
    You're correct, the graphics card is below minimum spec's
    Well PC World it is for me tomorrow then.... Least i can get a maccys breakfast as well lol

    Quote Originally Posted by mavericktangoII View Post
    My onboard graphics just won't run the the 3D at all Can anybody recommend a graphics card for about £30-40 that will?
    I'm looking around the same price bracket and found this, http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/asus-e...18486-pdt.html Dunno how good it is but it seems alright for the money. However if anyone has another opinion on it or has a suggestion feel free to chime in.

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    Make sure that you note down your motherboard & PSU details to ensure that you can support the card, be very specific to the member of staff that you speak when confirming what these are as the last thing you need is to get home only to find out the gfx is not supported by your system & PC World refuse you a refund.

    Be very, very careful shopping there unless you know specifically what you want, do not under any circumstances buy anything solely on the advise of their staff, take a note of what they are recommending & then research it on the net.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barside View Post
    Make sure that you note down your motherboard & PSU details to ensure that you can support the card, be very specific to the member of staff that you speak when confirming what these are as the last thing you need is to get home only to find out the gfx is not supported by your system & PC World refuse you a refund.

    Be very, very careful shopping there unless you know specifically what you want, do not under any circumstances buy anything solely on the advise of their staff, take a note of what they are recommending & then research it on the net.
    I've found a good one. Would it be worth getting a 1GB graphic's card or would a 512MB be enough to run the game's ME? If i get the 1GB i'm gonna need a new PSU which will run me another 40 quid. Or if anyone can recommend a card that will run with a 300w PSU and easily handle FM12's ME on high settings then let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt_no_7 View Post
    I've found a good one. Would it be worth getting a 1GB graphic's card or would a 512MB be enough to run the game's ME? If i get the 1GB i'm gonna need a new PSU which will run me another 40 quid. Or if anyone can recommend a card that will run with a 300w PSU and easily handle FM12's ME on high settings then let me know.
    You could go with 128mb of VRAM and it wouldn't be an issue for FM, it's hardly a graphical beast. As for the graphic card part humm, a 300w PSU is a bad idea in general buying a new card or not. You could perhaps look at an ATI 5570 or 5450 but you'd still probably need to upgrade your PSU.

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    I'm looking to buy a new laptop at the moment but I don't know much about specs and such and this thread has been useful.

    It appears that the faster processor the better (but an i5 is fine?) and I wouldn't need any more than 4GB of RAM. However, a lot of people are saying that integrated graphics cards are rubbish and they may struggle with the FM12 3D view.

    Can anyone let me know what I should be looking for in terms of a graphics card? Is there a certain brand you'd recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gris View Post
    You could go with 128mb of VRAM and it wouldn't be an issue for FM, it's hardly a graphical beast. As for the graphic card part humm, a 300w PSU is a bad idea in general buying a new card or not. You could perhaps look at an ATI 5570 or 5450 but you'd still probably need to upgrade your PSU.
    So i may as well just get the new PSU (seen a 550w for £40) and the 1GB graphics card mentioned above (needs 400w PSU to run it and my systems meets the other criteria). I'll only ever be playing FM12 on the computer, any other games go on the PS3 so i doubt i'll need anything more than that. May spring for another GB of ram while i'm at it, treat myself lol

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    Matt, i wouldn't go for a cheap 550w PSU, I'd play it safe and drop an extra 20 quid and make sure you get a solid one. Then again a cheap one might work out, just that there's more chances of it going wrong, up to you.

    Bobby. You're not going to get a good graphics card in a laptop, an i5 is a good processor(depends which one you get though, refer to this chart). As for a graphics card as long as it's not integrated it should work. Sadly unless you get a gaming laptop 3D performance is going to be pretty bad on a laptop.

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    Should i be getting jerks in the 3D with this set up ?

    Nvidia 8800GTS
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    At the mo it's very choppy and giving me a headache watching it, even with everything on low graphic settings and stadiums/backgrounds turned off, so in peoples opinion should i be able to play 3D smoothly ? thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gris View Post
    Matt, i wouldn't go for a cheap 550w PSU, I'd play it safe and drop an extra 20 quid and make sure you get a solid one. Then again a cheap one might work out, just that there's more chances of it going wrong, up to you.

    Bobby. You're not going to get a good graphics card in a laptop, an i5 is a good processor(depends which one you get though, refer to this chart). As for a graphics card as long as it's not integrated it should work. Sadly unless you get a gaming laptop 3D performance is going to be pretty bad on a laptop.
    Such a pain in the ass for one god damn game. Oh well, thanks for the advice anyway, i'll keep looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt_no_7 View Post
    Such a pain in the ass for one god damn game. Oh well, thanks for the advice anyway, i'll keep looking.
    I've spent £1000's to have the best PC I afford for this game, £30 a year for hours of fun my.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barside View Post
    I've spent £1000's to have the best PC I afford for this game, £30 a year for hours of fun my.....
    I have actually looked at buying a new PC but the one i have now is great, just needs a better graphics card. But in order to have one i need a new power supply unit, £80-£90 quid that i could be spending on annoying my Leicester City supporter brother by dressing his kid in a Leeds United kit lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by taylorsmen View Post
    Should i be getting jerks in the 3D with this set up ?

    Nvidia 8800GTS
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    At the mo it's very choppy and giving me a headache watching it, even with everything on low graphic settings and stadiums/backgrounds turned off, so in peoples opinion should i be able to play 3D smoothly ? thanks in advance
    3D should be working fine, try updating your drivers.

    Matt. It's not just this game really, a 300W PSU is horridly underpowered for internet browsing; Computers move along at quite a fast pace sadly. As for barside, that's a bit overkill, a 500 pound PC could run this game on high settings easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gris View Post
    3D should be working fine, try updating your drivers.

    Matt. It's not just this game really, a 300W PSU is horridly underpowered for internet browsing; Computers move along at quite a fast pace sadly. As for barside, that's a bit overkill, a 500 pound PC could run this game on high settings easily.
    Drivers are up to date, it's running perfectly smooth now i've changed from windowed mode to full screen, odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gris View Post
    As for barside, that's a bit overkill, a 500 pound PC could run this game on high settings easily.
    I should have said that I've spent £1000's over the years (about 15 years to be precise), I pushed the boat out on my current rig by getting an i7 when they were all new & exciting, the upside is in 2 years I've not had to once think of upgrading parts & I expect that to be the case for another 2 years.

    In the past the most I ever spent on an entire new system would be around £500 with occasional upgrades as I went along so I might actually break-even in the long run.
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    Just joined the site had a quick question , can someone tell me if this lap top will be good enough or FM 2012 its a Dell


    2nd generation Intel® Core™ i5-2410M processor 2.30 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 2.90 GHz

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    also how many leagues will i be able to run and will it be fast enough , any help will be great thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Suarez 7 View Post
    Just joined the site had a quick question , can someone tell me if this lap top will be good enough or FM 2012 its a Dell


    2nd generation Intel® Core™ i5-2410M processor 2.30 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 2.90 GHz

    Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit

    4GB2 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz

    500GB3 SATA hard drive (5400RPM)

    1 GB nVidia GeForce GT 525M

    also how many leagues will i be able to run and will it be fast enough , any help will be great thanks
    Will run the game with little or no effort.

    I have a simular system and I run 15 leagues /L Database on FM11, could run more but 15 is my preference
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiltonArmy View Post
    Will run the game with little or no effort.

    I have a simular system and I run 15 leagues /L Database on FM11, could run more but 15 is my preference


    Thanks for the reply been playing FM\Championship manager since 99\00 so need a upgrade on laptop will run around 15 leagues myself so will order laptop Monday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Suarez 7 View Post
    Thanks for the reply been playing FM\Championship manager since 99\00 so need a upgrade on laptop will run around 15 leagues myself so will order laptop Monday
    Your welcome m8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Suarez 7 View Post
    Just joined the site had a quick question , can someone tell me if this lap top will be good enough or FM 2012 its a Dell


    2nd generation Intel® Core™ i5-2410M processor 2.30 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 2.90 GHz

    Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit

    4GB2 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz

    500GB3 SATA hard drive (5400RPM)

    1 GB nVidia GeForce GT 525M

    also how many leagues will i be able to run and will it be fast enough , any help will be great thanks
    Just don't expect a blinding 3D performance out of this, other than that, should be fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gris View Post
    3D should be working fine, try updating your drivers.

    Matt. It's not just this game really, a 300W PSU is horridly underpowered for internet browsing; Computers move along at quite a fast pace sadly. As for barside, that's a bit overkill, a 500 pound PC could run this game on high settings easily.
    Well, that's sadly not at all true for the first part - 300w PSU is more than enough for a PC with onboard graphics, mid-range CPU and a bit of ram used for general work and browsing. Considering an i5 setup with a GTX470 hits about 460w peak -/+ 10%, I'm not sure why you think the above is true.

    Considering with the right (quality) parts I was able to run a shuttle with an 8800GTS on an AMD 4200+ dual core with 4gig of ram without issues for nearly 4 years with a 250w PSU? :P

    Second part entirely correct. Anything low-mid range these days with a dedicated graphics card will run FM fine in high details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gris View Post
    Just don't expect a blinding 3D performance out of this, other than that, should be fine

    how many leagues would i be able to play on it mate ? normally i just use the 2D for the match , would i be able to play at a fast pace with that lap top ? Thanks

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    How important is the graphic-card? Does processor and RAM matter if you dont have a good graphic-card? Is this good enough?:
    Processor: Intel core i7 2620M/2,7 Ghz
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gris View Post
    Just don't expect a blinding 3D performance out of this, other than that, should be fine
    Should easily do 3D on high. Even on the onboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iAmGory View Post
    Well, that's sadly not at all true for the first part - 300w quality PSU is more than enough for a PC with onboard graphics, mid-range CPU and a bit of ram
    True that

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    Quote Originally Posted by optimusdroid View Post
    How important is the graphic-card? Does processor and RAM matter if you dont have a good graphic-card? Is this good enough?:
    Processor: Intel core i7 2620M/2,7 Ghz
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    6470M isn't great but good enough for FM.

    Graphic card is only important for the 3D graphics. Latest onboards are good enough for the present day level of 3D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Suarez 7 View Post
    how many leagues would i be able to play on it mate ? normally i just use the 2D for the match , would i be able to play at a fast pace with that lap top ? Thanks
    As many as you can; Depends on what you classify as fast, it's not really a question anyone can answer really, you'll have to figure it out for yourself.

    And Ishu, yes it'll easily do 3D on high, but i have my doubts on whether it would be a steady 60 FPS, i guess it depends on the resolution and whether it's plugged into a power socket. It's not all that beefy albeit having quite impressive specifications for a laptop card. I suppose its 50/50. It'll be playable but wont be smooth as silk is all im saying. Yeah, FM is HORRIBLY optimized when it comes to it's 3D engine.

    Optimus should run fine, graphic cards have nothing to do with processing speed, only the 3D performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert the Spud View Post
    I have a 5553, Quad core, 3gb RAM and that ran FM11 brilliantly even with 60+ leagues, large DB and about 90k of players.
    http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...erms=ACER+5333

    It's this one. Looks better than most for the price.

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    Thanks for the reply Orgis dont know too much about computers but would you say that computer would run 3d match engine ? if so would it run it well .. thanks

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    Hi Guys,

    I am looking to get a small laptop for use with FM - Do you think I would be able to run FM 12 at all with the below laptop? Perhaps only 1 league?

    http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/sony-v...83218-pdt.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Gooner View Post
    Hi Guys,

    I am looking to get a small laptop for use with FM - Do you think I would be able to run FM 12 at all with the below laptop? Perhaps only 1 league?

    http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/sony-v...83218-pdt.html

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    It will run possibly 3/4 leagues .TBF, apart from it being a Sony , for that price you could easily pick up an i3/i5 which will run it with ease


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    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Suarez 7 View Post
    Thanks for the reply Orgis dont know too much about computers but would you say that computer would run 3d match engine ? if so would it run it well .. thanks
    Should run on high. How smooth depends once again on the resolution and your battery savings settings.

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    I have an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 Graphics card. On the AMD website it says the Catalyst Suite update is a Notebook update. So do I update it or not? I use a laptop...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiltonArmy View Post
    It will run possibly 3/4 leagues .TBF, apart from it being a Sony , for that price you could easily pick up an i3/i5 which will run it with ease

    Thanks for your help mate My budget is around £400 max really, do you think I can get better value for money by shopping online?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampa View Post
    I have an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 Graphics card. On the AMD website it says the Catalyst Suite update is a Notebook update. So do I update it or not? I use a laptop...
    A netbook is just a laptop with a smaller screen and usually weaker components, it'll work fine. Hell, if you had that card in a normal PC somehow it would work fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by welshace View Post
    well seeing as that isnt answering his question.. i will

    'better' is the wrong term. but fm is a processor intensive program so a decent processor is certainly more important than masses of ram...

    and yes... fm is 32 bit so any more than 2-3 ram is needless for it
    where can you check for how much ram you have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scab View Post
    Generally speaking, better processor. You can play just about any sane type of save on 2GB RAM and are completely covered on 4GB, for reasons already stated by others. Any more would be to accommodate more processes running at the same time as FM. 4GB is a pretty nice price/performance sweet spot right now for anyone on a budget.
    I have 1.50gb is that good enough

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    Depends on your version of windows. On XP it should be alright, on 7 it's a bit crap though. Anything below 2 gigs is pushing it, even 2 is low. 4 should be the minimum if you consider buying a new PC really. This is obviously reffering to more than just FM atm

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    I'm in the process of upgrading my machine with more RAM. This has meant that my motherboard and possibly CPU needs to go. Turning expensive! Any recommendations for a new mobo and CPU bundle, or new machine? Don't want to spend much. Only really use my machine for FM and iTunes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toon army 06 View Post
    I have 1.50gb is that good enough
    Unless you plan on loading a gazillion leagues, you'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walrus View Post
    I'm in the process of upgrading my machine with more RAM. This has meant that my motherboard and possibly CPU needs to go. Turning expensive! Any recommendations for a new mobo and CPU bundle, or new machine? Don't want to spend much. Only really use my machine for FM and iTunes.
    How much is not much though? The midrange price-conscious choice right now is probably the i5 2500k with a P67-based motherboard and some 1333 or 1600MHz DDR3 RAM. There's obviously lowrange stuff available though, if this is too pricey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Gooner View Post
    Thanks for your help mate My budget is around £400 max really, do you think I can get better value for money by shopping online?
    Yes fella , this is a decent one , just over your budget but worth the little bit extra

    http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/packar...83798-pdt.html

    Or you could always go to your nearest store and look at the clearence section , I got £100 off mine in clearence/sale

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gris View Post
    Optimus should run fine, graphic cards have nothing to do with processing speed, only the 3D performance
    Thanks! But I want 3d to run smoothly. Is ati radeon 6470m not good enough?

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    It's good enough, but only when you're going to run your laptop at maximum performance, meaning that your battery is going to drain VERY quickly if you plan to take it on the go. Other than that i'd guess a almost smooth but not quite perfect performance with everything turned on and quality set to high; But you'd need to test it out yourself as there's no benchmarks for FM for that specific card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gris View Post
    It's good enough, but only when you're going to run your laptop at maximum performance, meaning that your battery is going to drain VERY quickly if you plan to take it on the go. Other than that i'd guess a almost smooth but not quite perfect performance with everything turned on and quality set to high; But you'd need to test it out yourself as there's no benchmarks for FM for that specific card.
    Thank you! I seldom use FM on the go, but I guess having everything at max perfomance will cause the laptop to become hot, which in turn makes the fans to go bananas. This is my experience with my current laptop and it's annoying as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scab View Post
    How much is not much though? The midrange price-conscious choice right now is probably the i5 2500k with a P67-based motherboard and some 1333 or 1600MHz DDR3 RAM. There's obviously lowrange stuff available though, if this is too pricey.
    i5 2400 with a DH67CL

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    Wow, loads of great advice from chaps that know their specs, unlike me.

    I need to upgrade but am broke - can spare little over 300 quid. Will an HP ProBook 4530s pass muster?

    It's got an i3 dual-core processor (no way can I afford i5 or i7) with an Integrated Intel HD Graphics 3000.

    I'm not bothered about running hundreds of leagues (maybe max 20-25) but I want a smooth 3D ME.

    Will it do the biz; if not can anyone recommend a new laptop that will for as little dosh as possible?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phnompenhandy View Post
    Wow, loads of great advice from chaps that know their specs, unlike me.

    I need to upgrade but am broke - can spare little over 300 quid. Will an HP ProBook 4530s pass muster?

    It's got an i3 dual-core processor (no way can I afford i5 or i7) with an Integrated Intel HD Graphics 3000.

    I'm not bothered about running hundreds of leagues (maybe max 20-25) but I want a smooth 3D ME.

    Will it do the biz; if not can anyone recommend a new laptop that will for as little dosh as possible?!
    That be fine the i3 m8 , I have the same graphics card and the 3D runs smoothly on auto settings , never tried the high resolution

    http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/packar...34174-pdt.html - thats pretty decent plus slots available for extra ram ,though 4 is sufficent

    Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by phnompenhandy View Post
    Wow, loads of great advice from chaps that know their specs, unlike me.

    I need to upgrade but am broke - can spare little over 300 quid. Will an HP ProBook 4530s pass muster?

    It's got an i3 dual-core processor (no way can I afford i5 or i7) with an Integrated Intel HD Graphics 3000.

    I'm not bothered about running hundreds of leagues (maybe max 20-25) but I want a smooth 3D ME.

    Will it do the biz; if not can anyone recommend a new laptop that will for as little dosh as possible?!
    Ehhh, it might be able to do 20-25, but not with a lot of speed. Smooth 3D should work, but it's going to be pretty much equivalent to FA in the quality department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gris View Post
    Ehhh, it might be able to do 20-25, but not with a lot of speed. Smooth 3D should work, but it's going to be pretty much equivalent to FA in the quality department.
    Mine runs just fine on the 3D and speed of game

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