griders Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Firstly im not a Liverpool fan, I support my local Sutton Utd! But why are Liverpool so crap in this version, I know they have been going through some bad times recently but I think they always finish in the top 4. (last few seasons anyway - good old Prem history on FM ) They always seem to miss out on Champs League in 1st season then go down hill from there, 6-10th second season etc. etc. (I know money would drop but still) Anyone else have this in there game? or is it just me?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
griders Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Firstly im not a Liverpool fan, I support my local Sutton Utd! But why are Liverpool so crap in this version, I know they have been going through some bad times recently but I think they always finish in the top 4. (last few seasons anyway - good old Prem history on FM ) They always seem to miss out on Champs League in 1st season then go down hill from there, 6-10th second season etc. etc. (I know money would drop but still) Anyone else have this in there game? or is it just me?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamshankley Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Yeah finished 5th on mine! First season after the patch! Not viewing that in full detail though so could be down to that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil220779 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by griders: Firstly im not a Liverpool fan, I support my local Sutton Utd! But why are Liverpool so crap in this version, I know they have been going through some bad times recently but I think they always finish in the top 4. (last few seasons anyway - good old Prem history on FM ) They always seem to miss out on Champs League in 1st season then go down hill from there, 6-10th second season etc. etc. (I know money would drop but still) Anyone else have this in there game? or is it just me?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Same here, I've heard of them being relegated after only a few season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millsy111 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Why is 5th so unrealistic? It looks like Liverpool could finish 5th this season if their crap form continues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maviarab Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Also worth noting that while they may have a hefty bank balance, they have huge debt repayments to make, so if in the game they miss out on the CL even for one season, it could be disastrous for them. Bit like Rl actually lol, make or break season for them this in a way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmhero2001 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 We only have players (and a manager) that are interested in one thing...The champions league. We can't beat barnsley or even wigan - no offence. However we can beat an italian giant unbeaten since september in all competitions - explain that. Maybe on fm Liverpool tend to do well in the champions league (when they reach it) rather than the premiership? They do on mine anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www2 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by williamshankley: Yeah finished 5th on mine! First season after the patch! Not viewing that in full detail though so could be down to that! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> In my book this is as realistic as it gets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saulty2805 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by griders: But why are Liverpool so crap in this version </div></BLOCKQUOTE> because they are IRL, hehe Barnsley 2-1 L'pool... proves my point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamshankley Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fmhero2001: We only have players (and a manager) that are interested in one thing...The champions league. We can't beat barnsley or even wigan - no offence. However we can beat an italian giant unbeaten since september in all competitions - explain that. Maybe on fm Liverpool tend to do well in the champions league (when they reach it) rather than the premiership? They do on mine anyway </div></BLOCKQUOTE> If you watched the Barnsley game though, How Liverpool didn't win by a landslide is a mystery that can only be associated with the F.A Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamshankley Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by saulty2805: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by griders: But why are Liverpool so crap in this version </div></BLOCKQUOTE> because they are IRL, hehe Barnsley 2-1 L'pool... proves my point </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Perhaps Coventry are better than Man United as well after they beat them in the Carling Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Johnston Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by griders: Firstly im not a Liverpool fan, I support my local Sutton Utd! But why are Liverpool so crap in this version, I know they have been going through some bad times recently but I think they always finish in the top 4. (last few seasons anyway - good old Prem history on FM ) They always seem to miss out on Champs League in 1st season then go down hill from there, 6-10th second season etc. etc. (I know money would drop but still) Anyone else have this in there game? or is it just me?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Top of the league in my game, and I am Man U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maviarab Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Its also called football. There were elements of luck against Inter Milan, and to be fair to any Liverpool fans here, the game should have been sewn up way before the last 5 minutes. Likewise as Wiliam said, it defies logic how Liverpool did not murder Barnsley. But thats the beautiful game and I feel that FM recreates that perfectly, one day you lose in the cup to a team like Barnsley, few days later you beat Inter Milan hehe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekman Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Why don't they have any transfer funds after the 802 patch? Im sure they had some before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmhero2001 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by williamshankley: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fmhero2001: We only have players (and a manager) that are interested in one thing...The champions league. We can't beat barnsley or even wigan - no offence. However we can beat an italian giant unbeaten since september in all competitions - explain that. Maybe on fm Liverpool tend to do well in the champions league (when they reach it) rather than the premiership? They do on mine anyway </div></BLOCKQUOTE> If you watched the Barnsley game though, How Liverpool didn't win by a landslide is a mystery that can only be associated with the F.A Cup </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah i seen the amount of chances we had, same old story with liverpool in these situations though, lots of chances but nothing to show for it. We made a distinctly average keeper look world class. All credit to Steele though, he didn't half have a good day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saulty2805 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 to be fair, i'd rather see teams like coventry and barnsley progress than Man Utd and L'pool etc. Just livens up the cup, teams below the premiership always seem to play 'real' football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
griders Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Fair points and I agree with alot, but havin looked at my saved games only once have they finished in top 4 (3rd) in first season, and I have alot of saved games!! They do have fantastic players and should make top 4 on at least half of my saves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by trekman: Why don't they have any transfer funds after the 802 patch? Im sure they had some before. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> playing as liverpool with 802 they start with about 24 mill pounds,. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_trott_hoof Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 They're generally too good in my games. Once they won the Premiership for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekman Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">playing as liverpool with 802 they start with about 24 mill pounds,. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Not on mine they dont. I cant even ask for funds as this option is greyed out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alnubist Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 In my game by feb 09 liverpool were onto their 4th manager. Rafa lasted one season, Javier Aguirre lasted until Dec 08, Juande Ramos lasted until Feb 09 when Van Gaal came in. From Rafa leaving (6th in EPL) to Van Gaal coming in liverpool looked like getting relegated. van gaal pulled them from 18th to 12th and they won the Uefa cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by trekman: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">playing as liverpool with 802 they start with about 24 mill pounds,. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Not on mine they dont. I cant even ask for funds as this option is greyed out. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> i was surprised at the transfer money because they didn't have that much in 801 i'm sure. but there it was. still couldn't buy anyone though. one went off to arsenal and another went to chelsea. but i'm still looking to spend it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytheway Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 quite the oposite in my game. they have finished second in the league and their my bogey team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canabary Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 err? Liverpool are winning every match in my game, with the exception of against me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevooo Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 well on my game (which is bias towards newcastle but thats a differ topic all together) they allways start crap with rafa the rotater, then a new manager comes in some world class manager ive never heard of aguirie or something like that and they become title contenders. Hes a very good manager he sold voronin and kuyt for like 3 mil which made me laugh and bought a striker that new what it felt to score goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatZee Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by trekman: Not on mine they dont. I cant even ask for funds as this option is greyed out. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> You probably have transfer budgets disallowed in the first window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by williamshankley: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by saulty2805: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by griders: But why are Liverpool so crap in this version </div></BLOCKQUOTE> because they are IRL, hehe Barnsley 2-1 L'pool... proves my point </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Perhaps Coventry are better than Man United as well after they beat them in the Carling Cup </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Liverpool did however have a very good team out. Man Utd didn't. Liverpool do usually underachieve on my games too. So too do Chelsea (which annoys the hell out of me). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekman Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You probably have transfer budgets disallowed in the first window. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Nope. I'll just wait until January. Should hopefully get some money then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw2255 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 one my long term game, they came 11th in the 1st season, then 1st or 2nd in 7 of the next 9 years. So not too bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasma Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 i noticed this two in my save game. starting the game with the new patch liverpool finished 10th the 1st season and now finished 6th in the 2nd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
griders Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 Nice to see that im not the only one that has this!! Decided to have a go myself and have just finished my first season.......and finished 5th!! lol. Im using the same tatic that has won me many leagues with my beloved Sutton Utd (inc the prem - a few seasons down the line granted), Inter Milan, At. Madrid, Betis and Parma to name a few. Not sure what this proves but it is interesting!! Could it be in the coding? Is FM not random? Any ideas?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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