Should we be able to recruit football groundsmen?

[AbsoluteGenius]

I've just been watching a Champions League final preview and they interviewed an English groundsman who has been recruited by Real Madrid. Clearly the biggest clubs want the best football groundsmen available. However, on Football Manager the groundsman is almost completely anonymous. You cannot hire the best groundsmen or fire the worst ones.

In real life the best clubs recruit the best football groundsmen; should we be able to do it on Football Manager?

[aderow]

hmm.....Ive never even thought about that......it would be interesting
Only thing is I don't think that the grounds crew are hired by the manager though....

[DeadZone]

Would be an unnecessary addition imo

[JonnyGabriel]

No.

In real life the managers don't hire the groundsmen.

[DivineOne]

I don't really see a manager recruiting groundsmen tbh.

[AbsoluteGenius]

In real life I'm pretty sure football managers don't pick feeder clubs or go on 'holiday' as well.

[JonnyGabriel]

In real life I'm pretty sure football managers don't pick feeder clubs or go on 'holiday' as well.

You don't really pick the feeder club, you request to board to look into getting one. They then provide a selection of possibilities and ask you to give your recommendation on which one would benefit the club.

[B4L]

Even without considering whether or not it is the job of the manager this seems more like a chore than an interesting feature to me.

[Brian Shanahan]

In real life I'm pretty sure football managers don't pick feeder clubs or go on 'holiday' as well.

Actually depending on the type of manager, I reckon you'll find managers that do the same type of situation as both in the game. Look at the feeder club situation, aside from a couple of local links for sentimental reasons, a long term manager will want the same level of input into feeder clubs as he has on his backroom staff. Imagine you were Alex Ferguson and the Utd boardhad a choice between ASEC Abidjan and Séwé Sports de San Pedro (both Ivorian clubs), you'd be telling your board to pick ASEC and you'd be pretty p****d off if San Pedro were picked, without even informing you.

Holidaying is frankly more of a general manager thing rather than taking an actual holiday. No one, unless they're testing a database or want to start in 2100, will want to holiday through the transfer windows, or any other important dates outside of match days. Therefore it's more of a situation of going up to the stands for the day rather than going off to the Algarve for 24 hours of golf.

[AbsoluteGenius]

You don't really pick the feeder club, you request to board to look into getting one. They then provide a selection of possibilities and ask you to give your recommendation on which one would benefit the club.

If you've been there long enough you can choose a specific club e.g. I chose Leeds with Juventus.

[Neji]

Can't see what it would add to the game tbh. Just more tedious micro-managing.

[edgar555]

No thanks, thats the chairmans or chief execs job.

[Blue Saint]

Can't see what it would add to the game tbh. Just more tedious micro-managing.

Agreed.
What´s next? Lengthy contract negotiations with the toillet cleaners on the stadium?
No thanks.

[DirtyACE]

No thanks for me as well. Doesn't add anything to the game as Neji said. Agriculture is not what football management is about.

[robzilla]

No.

In real life the managers don't hire the groundsmen.

In real life the managers don't actually hire the players either! Or any other staff member for that matter.

That being said I don't think we should have groundsmen as staff that can be hired & fired. As Neji said, more tedious micro-managing.

[jbutton]

It would be good actually and to make requests to the groundsmen to water the pitch before a really good passing team play you e.g barcelona. Chelsea did this in the chmapions league a few years back.

[respo]

maybe SI should think about new game besides FM
maybe football tycoon or something like that
my opinion lot ppl would buy that game

[edgar555]

[QUOTE=jbutton;5383713 to make requests to the groundsmen to water the pitch before a really good passing team play you e.g barcelona. Chelsea did this in the chmapions league a few years back.[/QUOTE]

This bit is a good idea, although as I always have good passing teams I'd be punishing myself as much as anyone else.

[anthony wright]

I don't really see a manager recruiting groundsmen tbh.

But I bet they have a big say in getting rid of ones that are no good. However I am undecided as to having it in the game though.

[AbsoluteGenius]

The groundsmen ask how wide you want the pitch, they should also ask how you want the grass cut or watered as it affects playing conditions.

[Arijit]

maybe SI should think about new game besides FM
maybe football tycoon or something like that
my opinion lot ppl would buy that game

This is the ultimate reply of this topic. +1 to this.

[Montanaro]

Groundsmen are even more important in USA Baseball. Heads Groundsmen get paid lots of money.

They have to make sure a field is in tip top shape for 3 games in consecutive days, and then a few days later do it all again. Imagine taking care of this everyday

[Golaxi]

I think barnet as an affiliate arrangement with arsenal get the pitch expertise help from arsenal as their reserves also play on it and the pitch is as flat and true as highbury almost

[AbsoluteGenius]

I doubt their pitch is like Highbury, as that would mean they are playing on concrete.

[OohAahCantona]

I can't imagine Avram Grant interviewing a groundsman.

Jus Sayin

[razorr666]

I also dont think many managers take part in the negotiations when buying players, but we all do in FM. Saying that im not in support of hiring ground staff just yet.

[OohAahCantona]

I also dont think many managers take part in the negotiations when buying players, but we all do in FM. Saying that im not in support of hiring ground staff just yet.

It depends on the club I think, some managers have a lot more say in transfers than others, especially if they have been there a long time and built a reputation.

[chob]

I honestly dont think there would be any point in this.

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[Golaxi]

I doubt their pitch is like Highbury, as that would mean they are playing on concrete.

how highbury "was"

small but superb pitch

[bterz]

As long as all teams get the same groundsman level I'm ok with that. But if some teams have better groundsmen than mine I'd like to be able to hire the best one around if I can afford him. Is it an even playing field? Any info on this?

[ism-scfc]

I think barnet as an affiliate arrangement with arsenal get the pitch expertise help from arsenal as their reserves also play on it and the pitch is as flat and true as highbury almost

Did you just use the words Barnet, pitch, and flat in the same sentence?

Its the best known sloped pitch in the country (and gives them a massive advantage when at home)

[Danny Dire]

Would be an unnecessary addition imo

I would agree with that. I was thinking about nutritionalist should be in the game to help recovery time after game similar to physios but then I thought that it would be unnecessary.

[craigcwwe]

As people have said this is a unnecessary addition but it would also add more realism to the game and i doubt it would need much space to be implemented.

[Koki]

It would be good actually and to make requests to the groundsmen to water the pitch before a really good passing team play you e.g barcelona. Chelsea did this in the chmapions league a few years back.

This season Schalke deliberately let their pitch fall into poor condition because they hoped Bayern Munich wouldn't be able to take advantage of their technical superiority this way.

[Golaxi]

Did you just use the words Barnet, pitch, and flat in the same sentence?

Its the best known sloped pitch in the country (and gives them a massive advantage when at home)

the slope has been majorly fixed since the old days and the surface is extremely true largely due to the affiliate help

[Nobby_McDonald]

The groundsmen ask how wide you want the pitch, they should also ask how you want the grass cut or watered as it affects playing conditions.

I was going to post a similar thing myself.