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    Okay I'm really sick of this feature. It's supposed to be a good thing but it always comes back to bite you and I think it's flawed. Example - I have an DMC who is also an accomplished MC. I train him and play him at MC position for more than 1/2 season and he becomes a natural.

    At this point the new position training should disappear and I should NOT be able to select MC from the "learn new position" click-down menu. However it is still there.

    And what happens? I don't play him in 2-3 matches and he is back to Accomplished What the hell? A natural is a natural, it ought be like riding a bike - once you learn it you never forget it.

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    can only agree

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    Doesnt happen to me. I retrained Hulk (AM R) and Fabio (D R) and they didnt "forget". Even when Hulk got injured for 2 months I had no need to retrain him. (still Natural)

    No idea why yours "forget"..

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    Default Re: Learning new positions (bad)

    Because injury is a completely different animal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermundr View Post
    Because injury is a completely different animal?
    He still doesnt play. Also I play Fabio outside of the position I trained him and leave him out of the squad a lot as I got Alvaro Pereira ahead of him.

    Dunno about hidden attributes tho.

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    Default Re: Learning new positions (bad)

    True, SI should read this thread and consider changes

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    That happened to me with Di Maria, he went back to Accomplished at LM so i put it back to LM training and after a week he was a Natural again. I just leave it there now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mini torres View Post
    I just leave it there now.
    That's what I do. It is a bit frustrating.

    Surely they should reach a level of experience and ability in that position to never forget how to play there?

    I *think* this did happen with one player for me though. I'm sure I remember getting a message in my inbox saying that the player in question now felt confident playing in that position and could be considered natural. Something to that effect anyway. Anyone else had this?

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    He "forgets" his position because some of his hidden attributes are very low.

    For these players you either have to play them there all the time or leave it on the training screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar2010 View Post
    He "forgets" his position because some of his hidden attributes are very low.

    For these players you either have to play them there all the time or leave it on the training screen.
    Sorry but attributes or not if he is a natural at a given position he doesnt "forget". OP has a point, if they consider attributes to be a factor then dont make him a natural in a certain position. Flawed coding imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsolloso View Post
    Sorry but attributes or not if he is a natural at a given position he doesnt "forget". OP has a point, if they consider attributes to be a factor then dont make him a natural in a certain position. Flawed coding imo.

    It never used to say natural, it only used to go as high as accomplished.

    Something altered in the last couple of versions that has allowed it to now go to natural.

    My personal opinion is that if it goes to natural then they shouldn't "forget" the position, whereas accomplished runs the risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar2010 View Post
    He "forgets" his position because some of his hidden attributes are very low.

    For these players you either have to play them there all the time or leave it on the training screen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar2010 View Post
    It never used to say natural, it only used to go as high as accomplished.

    Something altered in the last couple of versions that has allowed it to now go to natural.

    My personal opinion is that if it goes to natural then they shouldn't "forget" the position, whereas accomplished runs the risk.
    Agree. natural IS natural in whatever aspect. If you are a natural at say German then you wont suddenly forget to speak it, you may make the odd pronounciation mistake or spelling error but you wont forget it.

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    Default Re: Learning new positions (bad)

    Or forget it at a painfully slow rate - sometimes players change positions through necessity through age, for example.

    My rant

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    Default Re: Learning new positions (bad)

    oh.. i always thought it was impossible to train to natural level.... natural suggests born-with-ability to me ...

    meh.. easily fixed

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    Default Re: Learning new positions (bad)

    Needs to be looked at really.

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    Default Re: Learning new positions (bad)

    This is a scenario where I would feel comfortable bringing out FMRTE. Rooney started as a GK, so maybe tomorrow he will turn round to Fergie in training and go 'sorry gaffer, I forgot how to be a striker'. Jesus, even he is not (quite) that stupid.

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