Would you skip FM09 if SI continued making patches and data updates for FM08?

[The 13th Duke of Wybourne]

I would skip FM09. If so. Imagine how well balanced match engine would be and "bug free"(not possible IRL) FM08 would be at the time of FM09 release. And how all those new bugs in FM09 would take joy out of it.

(My native language is not English.)

[The 13th Duke of Wybourne]

I would skip FM09. If so. Imagine how well balanced match engine would be and "bug free"(not possible IRL) FM08 would be at the time of FM09 release. And how all those new bugs in FM09 would take joy out of it.

(My native language is not English.)

[chopper99]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The 13th Duke of Wybourne:
I would skip FM09. If so. Imagine how well balanced match engine would be and "bug free"(not possible IRL) FM08 would be at the time of FM09 release. And how all those new bugs in FM09 would take joy out of it.

(My native language is not English.) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunately if SI didn't bother bringing more games out and just kept brining out patches for the current game they would go bust and there would be no more FM.
We'd all be forced to resort to Championship Manager and none of us wants that do we?

[Jimbokav1971]

I am simply not capable of restraining myslef from buying the next issue.

I have moaned but let's be honest about this. I will be buying FM09 on thye day of release.

[NepentheZ]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jimbokav1971:
I am simply not capable of restraining myslef from buying the next issue.

I have moaned but let's be honest about this. I will be buying FM09 on thye day of release. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Late starter huh.

I'll be pre-ordering it from play.com and getting it atleast 2 days early

[aaberdeenn]

Certainly not.

[The 13th Duke of Wybourne]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by chopper99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The 13th Duke of Wybourne:
I would skip FM09. If so. Imagine how well balanced match engine would be and "bug free"(not possible IRL) FM08 would be at the time of FM09 release. And how all those new bugs in FM09 would take joy out of it.

(My native language is not English.) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunately if SI didn't bother bringing more games out and just kept brining out patches for the current game they would go bust and there would be no more FM.
We'd all be forced to resort to Championship Manager and none of us wants that do we? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didn't suggest put an end to making FM. Maybe something like 1 FM per 2 seasons.

Quality

quantity

[The 13th Duke of Wybourne]

Many people still paying 7.0.2 because it's so good. Why bother to buy new FM every year when it takes over 6 monts after release to get it fixed.

[Kriss]

Because it's the new FM and we NEED it

We also need to play it from day 1 to ensure those problems which occur do get fixed.

The whine that you are all unpaid testers doesn't hold water, most developers would ignore it or at best add it to next years fix list.
SI try to get it right.

[rinso]

nobody is forcing you to buy the latest release when it hits the shelves. if you dont want to buy it, then dont! plenty of us will buy it though, and keep buying it, because its still miles ahead of anything else, even with the bugs!!

[Kriss]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Many people still paying 7.0.2 because it's so good. Why bother to buy new FM every year when it takes over 6 monts after release to get it fixed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That could be because they're just tight or because they still get enough out of it to not need a change yet.

When you say many, have you done a survey? or are you making a huge assumption?

[Amaroq]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Many people still paying 7.0.2 because it's so good. Why bother to buy new FM every year when it takes over 6 monts after release to get it fixed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Because I've gotten ten times as many hours of gameplay out of the CM/FM series as I have from any other game franchise.

Because I know how hard SI work, and how hard they strive for perfection - even if they inevitably fall short.

Because I have the disposable income to support their work.

Because I have no illusion that they can afford to makes patches for me for free.

Because I want to ensure that SI don't go bankrupt, so that they can continue to improve the game.

So I funnel them my $40 a year and am pleased to do consider myself a supporter - even if I'm too attached to a save-game in one of the previous versions to rush out and play the latest version immediately.

[Kain]

I wouldn't, but that's because I don't have FM08.

[Rb]

No I wouldn't.

The additions in each version warrant the 15 quid for the game for gods sakes.

[r0x0r]

FM09 would be the same as a "1 year later" FM08 patch. They have released patches with features added before...


What you should be suggesting is that FM09 goes light on new features and instead looks at refining what's there, which I might support.

[Bongo-Bongo]

Now I wouldn't. Even when some of the features aren't particularly awe inspiring, they still add something to the game.

Even though I currently consider it better, I could never go back to 7.0.2 as I would miss the coach reports, the improved bonus system, being able to set pitch dimensions, and confidence, even though it doesn't work all too well at present.

[Dave C]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by r0x0r:
FM09 would be the same as a "1 year later" FM08 patch. They have released patches with features added before...


What you should be suggesting is that FM09 goes light on new features and instead looks at refining what's there, which I might support. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd be in favour of a "work on what's there" approach too.

[Pim1984]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bongo-Bongo:


Even though I currently consider it better, I could never go back to 7.0.2 as I would miss the coach reports, the improved bonus system, being able to set pitch dimensions, and confidence, even though it doesn't work all too well at present. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

After a short while you probably would get into fm 07 again, there is not an awfull lot you miss out on. Maybe I go install fm 07 until the next patch comes out, as I like to play a as good as possible good working game.

[B. Stinson]

Due to the unimpressive drop in potential, I'm already skipping 2009, so...

...I guess continuing 2008 patches wouldn't make much difference in my decision.

[McDoul]

Simply not going to happen. Period.

There'll be a game.

Hopefully building on this one rather than overhauling that we might see it out by October and not end up waiting until February for a full enjoyment of both forum and game.

[Andrew K]

I plan to skip FM09 if SI doesn't patch up FM08. It would be shameless if they didn't considering all the noticeable bugs in the game.

[Kriss]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andrew K:
I plan to skip FM09 if SI doesn't patch up FM08. It would be shameless if they didn't considering all the noticeable bugs in the game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They've already said they will, how could you not know that?

[Ridleys]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The 13th Duke of Wybourne:
Many people still paying 7.0.2 because it's so good. Why bother to buy new FM every year when it takes over 6 monts after release to get it fixed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well we're not going to see a 7.0.3 are we so unless you want to update it yourself, you would buy FM 09, and although you say you won't i an guarantee that you will buy it through sheer temptation

[Mitja]

if you ask me I'm not interested on new transfer update, and even when it's out ,I'm not gonna use it. I just want to play, lol

[Andrew K]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kriss:
They've already said they will, how could you not know that? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Clearly they didn't send me an email telling me they would.

[Arnoldzhu]

Has anyone noticed that the size of FM.exe for FM2007 7.0.2 is about 17MB and 21MB for FM2008 8.0.1, but 36MB for 8.0. Is there any problem?

[DeathReborn]

I preorder every version so no I wouldn't skip FM09. If FM09 sucks though I will not pre order FM 2010 and instead wait for it to be fixed (while still playing FM07/08 with updates).

[eXistenZ]

I will skip FM09 if the patch doesn't make FM08 playable.
If 8.0.2 turns out to be great (something i highly doubted), i maybe buy FM09, but it will only be in April 2009.

[alexboss]

Football Manager is the best..he has some bugs but i think the patch 8.0.2 will resolve all.Championship Manager is a .......He is for kids(4-6 years).10x and sorry for my bad english

[gavnoble]

I'll only skip FM 2009 if the demo doesn't wow me.

[FrazT]

Every year I tell myself that I will continue with the current version and not buy the new one

Every year I try the demo and am usually disappointed because of what I describe as unmissable bugs

Every year I continue to play the demo past the new version release

Every year I wait till the first patch is released, still saying that I will not buy the new version

Every year I buy the new version

Every year I tell myself that I will continue with the current version and not buy the new one

And so on.......

[The 13th Duke of Wybourne]

What if SI would make season updates?

"Season 09 update + bug fixes + data update + new features"

I would like that and you dont.

[Emmenaar]

What if SI makes "Season 09 update + bug fixes + data update + new features" and you can download it after paying 20 quid?

I'll buy FM2009. And every next FM until I get bored of playing FM.

[r0x0r]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Emmenaar:
What if SI makes "Season 09 update + bug fixes + data update + new features" and you can download it after paying 20 quid?

I'll buy FM2009. And every next FM until I get bored of playing FM. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right, so the difference between that and "FM09" is what?

Branding. Simple as that. FM09 is FM08 season 09 update + bug fixes + new features.

Of course, I do wish they'd look at a digital distribution service in the UK too.

[Emmenaar]

Just like Fm2006 is a update from 2005 and 2007 is an update from 2006.