I am still awesome
Canada got 3rd in the Gold Cup! For us, that's a huge achievement!
Not the best results to start this season.![]()
I am still awesome
Canada got 3rd in the Gold Cup! For us, that's a huge achievement!
Not the best results to start this season.![]()
In somewhat related news, Volvo has been sold to Chinese carmaker Geely:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/246168/
So we shall have a Chinese takeover soon?![]()
Very good Ben![]()
on loan =)
Sounds good Ben, i might try and put it into the game, might not be the same thing, but i remember doing something to make chairmen leave and such, so ill give it a shot.
And he's ready to leave, but doesnt look like he's selling :S just letting another member takeover
Last edited by Charlesbeams; 24-12-2009 at 12:06.
If Charles did decide to hang up his sheepskin coat as gaffer of Volvo, would anybody else be interested in taking over the reins? Good idea mate?
I think if i do leave, i'd rather i just went on holiday until people retired.
September
Results
2-2 Arsenal
2-1 Chelsea
2-0 Reading
3-1 Fulham (League Cup)
Player Stats
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Injuries: Tyler Burrows (Thigh Strain 1-3 Days)
Alot better this month, going unbeaten. We are still only 9th in the league, but only 6 games in.
This whole takeover thing seems like it'll happen, looking like one of the Directors at the club may takeover, so i made them ChineseWill update as it goes on.
Looking better but still alot of games to go.
October
Results
0-0 Stoke
2-2 N.Forest
1-1 Everton
1-0 Blackburn
Player Stats
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So the takeover is completed, and its just one of the Directors who i made chinese, no extra money or anything.
Alot of draws this month, Burrows needs to find his scoring boots? i think.
Also we've only lost once this season, so if we start scoring a few more, we could get a few more wins.
We are doing a Man Cityhope i dont get sacked
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Sorry I haven't posted in a while, but it looks like Berg Ryman has caught fire at Inter. An 8.57 rating through october!
Volvo startin much better than last season, hopefully we can keep it up and get back into to europe
Not playing nearly as much as I used to. Was I injured or something?
injured =(
A dreadful start to the season on my part..
Just two goals in my opening 9 games is simply not good enough, maybe a move is the right option![]()
Merry christmas!!
November
Results
1-2 Sunderland (League Cup)
1-0 Man U
3-3 Sunderland
2-2 A.Villa
Player Stats
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Injuries: Pablo Gonzalez (Pulled Hamstring 1-2 Weeks)
Still only 1 loss in the league, but still drawing too much.
NeoAC: i think he isnt playing much because of the formation im now using, which uses 3 in central midfield, but ill make sure he gets more games, i mean you are the captain haha.
PluckaDuck: i also think its time Burrows moved on, he doesnt seem to happy, but everyone will be unhappy if i sell you, but i think its what he needs.
Merry Christmas all!
Last edited by Charlesbeams; 25-12-2009 at 18:59.
December
Results
2-0 Spurs
1-0 Fulham
2-2 Bristol City
3-1 Burnley
2-0 West Ham
1-1 Liverpool
3-3 Man City
Player Stats
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Things are looking better going into the new year, and even Burrows is now chipping in againi actually tried transfer listing him to see what would happen, and about 10 players were annoyed at the way he was treated haha, so i decided it was a bad idea, and i might just try and offer him out.
5th in the League, and we are on a 19 game unbeaten run in the league, just a same so many of those unbeaten games are draws![]()
Next update tomorrow, things to look forward to:
A new striker joins, who has a goal per game ratio, another brazilian, how much was he?
Does this mean Burrows has gone for good?
And another player has left on loan after one of the keepers found him diffucult to work with.
Last edited by Charlesbeams; 25-12-2009 at 21:30.
I'm happy for you to sell me Charles, all good things must come to an end!!
Well ill tell you now that you havnt been sold, but gone on loan to Bayern for £6m and then a possible £20m for it to be permanent.
And the new striker looks good, and has scored on his debut![]()
I think Keirrison?
Haha nah, its a regen, only 22
Nice to see I'm playing moreAnd we're doing better in the League! Could that be a coincidence?
Have you tried retraining me for MC Charles? That way you could still go with the new formation.
A very nice effort from Destiny, he looks to be the pick of the Goalkeepers at this point of the season and can only improve from here. Donatello is not scoring as highly as he should be, but with Burrows walking out he may have a chance to get a few more in the net.
I was going to suggest a loan deal and I'm really happy to have got one, especially at such a great club.
An Australian has never "made it" in the German League before and I'd really like to be the first!
January
Results
1-1 Newcastle
3-0 Torquay (FA Cup)
2-2 Birmingham
2-0 Arsenal
1-0 Watford (FA Cup)
1-1 Chelsea
Team:
GK Jonathan Destiny (LLR) CA - 149
GK Sam Fuller (thezogsageordie) CA - 182
DC Brettney Jovenuskas (brettney1980) CA - 169
D/WBL Kevin Dijkstra (el_Chuese) CA - 150
DMC Matt Ferguson (MattFergie) CA - 148
MC/AMC Pablo Gonzalez (Blackcats) CA - 152
ML Ryan Andrews (NeoAC) CA - 168
AMR Frank Fontaine (AK85) CA - 155
Regens:
DLC Adelmo Soriano (Holyehsauce) CA - 133
DC Artur Atilla (coldkohmew) CA - 165
DR Gavin Hart Jr (gcah2008) CA -117
MC Freek Schyns (MattFergie) CA - 148
AML/ST Phillip Cooper (bjoggi33) CA - 138
FC Donatello (LLR) CA - 162
Sold Players:
DC Gavin Hart (gcah2008) CA - 169
DC Steven Kapp (Jaded) CA - 174
DR Ben Cee (BenArsenal) CA - 172
DL Berg Ryman (bergtaur) CA - 184
WBR Gerardo Trunnardi (5ergio) CA - 145
MC Chris Ray Buller (coldkohmew) CA - 146
MR Charlie Morgan (charlie177) CA - 152
AML Matthew Arcamede (arcamede1990) CA -163
ST Alex Shaw (mackemforever) CA - 148
ST Björgvin Viktor Fĉrseth (bjoggi33) CA - 171
On Loan:
MC/AMC Ben Flash (whitehead.10) CA - 158
ST Tyler Burrows (PluckaDuck) CA - 179
League Table
League looking good, but it needs to stay this way, or get even better.
Sam Fuller was named as a sub in the World Team of the Year.
Burrows has gone on loan to Bayern, with a look at moving permanently.
Ben Flash has also gone on loan to CSKA, after some trouble started with him and Fuller.
Brought in a new striker called Marcao, his league games and goals are 80 in 80, and he's already scored in the cup for us, keeping his goal per game ratio going.
Moved a few others in from the reserves, but i dont see them playing much.
I doubt Matthews, Jack Fontaine or Adam White will be starting in the first team, so if arcamede1990, AK85, Jaded want to choose new players, then just say out of these who you'd like:
DR - Carlos Costa CA - 146 PA - 179
AMRC/FC - Dias (Heriberto Dias) CA - 141 PA - 176
ST - Marcao (Marcos Jose Guimaraes) CA -138 PA - 147
Try and give them Brazilian/Portuguese names too, or daft nicknames from their full names which ive mentioned.
Last edited by Charlesbeams; 26-12-2009 at 13:01.
Schyns has drawn level with Ferguson in terms of CA, but surely Ferguson is still the best passer in the team![]()
oooo could i get Marcao please?
can he be called Matthao please?
KUTGW
Done
And screenshots up.
Thats okay i won't take another regen untill frank retires or leaves the club
Looks like Destiny is playing above his stats which is just what is needed, but I am a bit disappointed with Donatello, he is not scoring like he should in this team.
Still in 5th
I haven't scored yet this year![]()
A new club means a new start and hopefully that will see me return to some form!
8 goals =)
Will hopefully get Feb and March done tonight.
February
Results
3-2 Reading
1-1 Stoke
5-2 N.Forest
2-1 Aston Villa (FA Cup)
1-0 Everton
3-2 Blackburn
Player Stats
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Injuries: Donatello (Twisted Knee), Freek Schyns (Groin Strain), Ryan Andrews (Bruised Rib) All 1 Day.
Not sure whats going on this season, but we havnt lost since the first game, currently sitting in 3rd, but probably be 4th once everton play their game in hand.
FA Cup looking good too, we are into the Quarter Finals and will play Everton.
Matthao has been good enough so far, not quite at his usual goal per game, but its good enough for now, few more games and a few more hat-tricks should do nicely
Burrows hasnt played much for Bayern, but 2 in 4 isnt bad.
Champions League here we come![]()
Hmmm could be interesting if we can pull off the top 4 finish. Destiny is still looking solid conceding only 8 in 11 games, 7 clean sheets. While Donatello is averaging one goal every two games, at least he is doing something.
March
Results
1-1 Everton (FA Cup)
3-2 Man U
1-3 Everton (FA Cup Replay)
0-0 A.Villa
0-1 Spurs
Player Stats
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We lost in the FA Cup, but still going well in the league for us, and we lost our first league game since the start of the season.
Pablo Gonzalez got called up for Mexico, totally forgot that was his 2nd nation.
We'll find out what happens with the league tomorrow![]()
Donatello's assists must be generating that huge Avg Rating compared to the other strikers, he is not scoring enough goals to do it. Either that or he is just mor consistent. As for Destiny he added an ASSIST woohooo, and 12 conceded in 14 is pretty good too.
As soon as I leave Volvo FC they start playing well again
But 6 from 9 at Bayern isn't too bad!!
KUTGW CB and the rest of Volvo FC.
just 2 games, abit dissapointing
You need to remember you are on loan to CSKA, and in Russia the season doesnt start until March/April time, so by the time December arrives you should have a full 30 Games or more.
April
Results
0-1 Sunderland
4-1 Fulham
4-2 Bristol City
1-1 West Ham
Player Stats
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Injuries: Brettney Jovenuskas (Twisted Knee 9-11 Days)
Looks like all we need is for Everton to lose against Stoke and we have a CL spot, but if we can beat Liverpool we get a CL spot
Forgot to mention that Massimo Neri left for Everton, and Brad Friedel is now Ass.Man
Buller might be on his way to Heerenveen after doing quite well on his loan spell there.
Pablo Gonzalez made his first appearance for Mexico, getting himself a debut goal in a 3-1 win.
Will have the End of Season update done today sometime.
End of Season
Results
2-1 Liverpool
3-1 Burnley
Team:
GK Jonathan Destiny (LLR) CA - 152
GK Sam Fuller (thezogsageordie) CA - 182
DC Brettney Jovenuskas (brettney1980) CA - 171
D/WBL Kevin Dijkstra (el_Chuese) CA - 151
DMC Matt Ferguson (MattFergie) CA - 148
MC/AMC Pablo Gonzalez (Blackcats) CA - 152
ML Ryan Andrews (NeoAC) CA - 168
AMR Frank Fontaine (AK85) CA - 156
ST Tyler Burrows (PluckaDuck) CA - 179
Regens:
DLC Adelmo Soriano (Holyehsauce) CA - 134
DC Artur Atilla (coldkohmew) CA - 165
MC Freek Schyns (MattFergie) CA - 147
AML/ST Phillip Cooper (bjoggi33) CA - 139
FC Donatello (LLR) CA - 162
ST Matthao (arcamede1990) CA - 140
Sold Players:
DC Gavin Hart (gcah2008) CA - 172
DC Steven Kapp (Jaded) CA - 175
DR Ben Cee (BenArsenal) CA - 175
DL Berg Ryman (bergtaur) CA - 186
WBR Gerardo Trunnardi (5ergio) CA - 145
MC Chris Ray Buller (coldkohmew) CA - 146
MR Charlie Morgan (charlie177) CA - 152
AML Matthew Arcamede (arcamede1990) CA -166
ST Alex Shaw (mackemforever) CA - 149
ST Björgvin Viktor Fĉrseth (bjoggi33) CA - 172
On Loan:
MC/AMC Ben Flash (whitehead.10) CA - 159
League Table
Volvo are going back into Europe, but this time its Champions League.
Burrows rejoins from Bayern, hopefully ready to play some Champions League football, his stats are from Volvo in the screenshot, but he got 10 in 17 for Bayern.
Flash is still at CSKA until December, and may return for the CL 2nd round
Will be looking to bring in a defender i think, as Gavin Hart Jr isnt quite good enough.
Stadium is getting an extra 10k seats, so it'll be about 30k or something once its done.
Tyler Burrows, Kevin Dijkstra, Pablo Gonzalez, Ben Flash and Sam Fuller have all been called up to play in World Cup 2018, the only sold player to be called up is Matthew Arcamede for Russia.
Last edited by Charlesbeams; 28-12-2009 at 23:05.
Champions League!![]()
Volvo in the Champions League. It's about bloody time![]()
Wow Gonzalez finally gets a call up, was thinking it would never happen and not just that but a goal and a world cup place to boot
kutgw
Finally screenshots are up.
World Cup Round Up
Tyler Burrows: Burrows couldnt help Australia get through a tough group with Italy and Brazil going through, he did however score 5 in one game, and was named Top Scorer in the competition with 6, and named in the Dream Team.Those 6 goals put him on 51 in 49.
Pablo Gonzalez: Pablo and Mexico got through the groups, but couldnt get much further than the 2nd round, he did score his 2nd goal for his country though.
Kevin Dijkstra: In the same group as Mexico, Holland also progressed, but were beaten by Italy on penalties, Dijkstra scored the first penalty for Holland.
Ben Flash and Sam Fuller: Flash and Fuller got through the group stage, but again another team went out in the 2nd round, with a 2-0 defeat against spain.
Matthew Arcamede: Arcamede and Russia got the furthest, but couldnt get past Brazil in the Quarter Finals, he scored once in the tournament against USA in the group.
Brazil ended up winning, beating Spain 1-0.
Canada got nowhere close to the World Cup but at least I didn't go scoreless this year![]()
Canada actually almost got there, losing out in the play-offs against Chile.
Also they got there in 2014, but i dont think you got picked.
I've been away at my folks over Christmas hence the no posting ... I leave and we had slowed down making ground in the Premier league come back and we have Champions League football on the horizon
Nice work Charlesbeams.
Whilst your looking into the World Cup just out of interest how close have Latvia come to qualifying?
Top Goal Scorer and didn't even get out of our group???
Jeez, I had some tournament
Hopefully my time at Bayern will lead to an improvement in form for Volvo next year!
Well he was joint top scorer, but was first place because he'd only played 3 games
Update coming soon, including Champions League Group
Pre-Season and August
Results
2-1 Zurich (FR)
3-0 Ajaccio (FR)
3-0 Norwich (FR)
6-1 Rotherham (FR)
3-1 QPR (FR)
2-1 Wolves
1-1 Newcastle
Player Stats
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Injuries: Sam Fuller (Broken Finger 2-3 Weeks)
Champions League Group
Considering both keepers were injured for our first two games, we did ok.
I havnt brought in any players, but i may in January if i think we need any.
Chris Ray Buller has moved to HSV for £2.8m, no other players have moved on though.
I think our Champions League Group couldnt really have been much better, yeah it's going to be tough, but could have been alot harder.
Quality as usual CB. Loving the CL group, think we're capable of qualifying, came across something the other day thought this might help.
http://www.fmscout.com/i-741-Ingame-...es-Viewer.html
You can edit the squad view, ie General Info, so CA and PA show up, might save you some time on updates and during the season, etc?
I'd seen that before, but didnt bother getting it, so i will now and see if it helps.
Undefeated so far this season
Happy with the Top seed in our group (Benfica should be able to be picked off) not with the Second though. (The Yellow Submarine is always dangerous, would much rather CSKA Moscow or Olympiakos) or the forth (Really AZ? They couldn't have given us Tel Aviv or Sofia? or even Partizan?)![]()
A really solid start, 2 goals from 2 matches, a really solid return.
Volvo FC aren't the only team to have a keeper crisis at the start of the season...![]()
September
Results
2-0 Man U
2-2 Peterborough
1-0 AZ (Champions League)
2-1 Stoke
1-0 Wolves (League Cup)
2-1 Blackburn
Player Stats
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An unbeaten month, fantastic stuff, although i do think we need to be scoring a few more.
Currently a game behind in the league, sitting in 3rd, and could go 2nd if we win.
So yeah, good enough![]()
1 game,i think the loan made the move
8 Games without a goal for Donatello is pathetic...need to pick that up. As for Destiny he is looking solid at the back, 4 games, 2 clean sheets & 3 conceded, looking good Charles.
Just thinking some players are almost 30 now, maybe another 5-6 season and this could be over.
Im just hoping that atleast 5 or 6 stay on as staff, or some even keep playing at 40
Doesnt seem that many are interested anymore either, mackemforever, el_Chuese, Jaded, to name a few.
Great start this yearAlthough we really should have beaten Posh.
Great start to the season, 7 from 8 is a really impressive return and the midfielders are spoon-feeding me at the moment!!
KUTGW Charles.
October
Results
2-0 Benfica (Champions League)
1-2 Spurs
2-2 WBA
1-1 Villarreal (Champions League)
0-0 Birmingham
3-4 Man U (League Cup)
Player Stats
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Injuries: Frank Fontaine (Strained Neck 3-5 Days)
So we're out of the League Cup, but never mind, its not so important.
League not going too well to be honest, although with a game in hand we are 8th, and could go 4th.
Champions League going well so far, as we are unbeaten, hopefully we can get through this group.
More later.
Gavin Hart Jr. is a failure
Can I request to see if Gavin Hart has actually won anything at the many clubs he has been at? Strangely, I put 20 as his loyalty when I filled in the form. :/
Current Players
GK Jonathan Destiny (LLR) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy, League Cup
GK Sam Fuller (thezogsageordie) - FA Trophy, League Cup, U-20 World Cup 2011 (England)
DC Brettney Jovenuskas (brettney1980) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy, League Cup
WBL Kevin Dijkstra (el_Chuese) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy, League Cup
DMC Matt Ferguson (MattFergie) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy, League Cup, Four Associations (Scotland)
MC/AMC Ben Flash (whitehead.10) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy, League Cup
MC/AMC Pablo Gonzalez (Blackcats) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy, League Cup, U-19 Euro 2011 (Spain)
ML Ryan Andrews (NeoAC) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy, League Cup, Gold Cup (3rd place)
AMR Frank Fontaine (AK85) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy
ST Tyler Burrows (PluckaDuck) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy, League Cup, Asian Nations (3rd Place, Australia)
Former Players
DC Steven Kapp (Jaded) - FA Trophy (Volvo), U-21 Euro 2013 (Runner Up, Germany)
DC Gavin Hart (gcah2008) - FA Trophy (Volvo), Europa League (Runner Up, Liverpool)
WBR Gerardo Trunnardi (5ergio) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy, League Cup (Volvo)
DR Ben Cee (BenArsenal) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy (Volvo), Champions League, European Super Cup (R.Madrid)
DL Berg Ryman (bergtaur) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy (Volvo)
MC Chris Ray Buller (coldkohmew) - U-19 Euro 2011 (Runner Up, England), U-20 World Cup (England)
MR Charlie Morgan (charlie177) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy, League Cup (Volvo)
AML Matthew Arcamede (arcamede1990) - FA Trophy (Volvo), Champions League (Runner up 2016, Winner 2018), Club World Cup (Juventus)
ST Alex Shaw (mackemforever) - FA Trophy, Johnstones Paint Trophy (Volvo), League Cup (Runner Up, Liverpool), Four Associations (Ireland)
ST Björgvin Viktor Fĉrseth (bjoggi33) - FA Trophy (Volvo)
Decided to just do all players
I think things only show up if you played in them![]()
Last edited by Charlesbeams; 31-12-2009 at 17:50.
Yeah, that's been standard in the games.
Cheers! So I've won nothing... but my time at Liverpool is looking like it could be decent.![]()
Won the Champions League.![]()
kind of sad that I haven't won anything since I left for Inter, but I would have to think I'm due for a world team of the year with the ratings I've pulled.
Only person too have won the Asian Cup
EDIT- Come 3rd.....
Last edited by PluckaDuck; 01-01-2010 at 02:01.
If you look properlyit says 3rd place
Happy New Year everyone!
Bahhhhhh
Happy New Year my fellow Volvans![]()
hope i can get another world cup medal...
Just had a ridiculous match with Man City
Update in a few mins.
November
Results
2-1 Chelsea
1-1 Villarreal (Champions League)
3-2 Liverpool
4-1 Everton
2-0 Sunderland
5-6 Man City
0-1 AZ (Champions League)
Player Stats
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Injuries: Ryan Andrews (Strained Ankle 5-10 Days)
League going well, sitting in 3rd, but still plenty of games to go.
The Man City game was sooo unlucky for us, losing 5-1 at half time, we get it back to 5-5 with about 20mins to play, looking like it'll end a draw with 3mins added on, and in the 95th, yes 2mins after it should have ended, they score
Champions League is going ok, we need to beat Benfica to get through, or hope AZ lose.
Man City Game was simply amazing!!
Having a brilliant season so far, with 18 goals from 20 appearances!! This time last season, I was struggling to keep my place in the team, wasn't even the top scorer and demanding a move away, how times change!!!
KUTGW Charles.
Should've had Destiny in the goal, then there is no way they would've scored 6Great to see the club keeping up across the board, disappointed with the efforts of Donatello though he seems to be unable to score at all.
I'm Injured
Still doing pretty well in the League tho![]()
December
Results
5-1 Bristol City
1-1 West Ham
1-2 Benfica
1-0 Arsenal
1-1 A.Villa
2-2 Fulham
1-1 Wolves
0-1 Everton
Player Stats
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Injuries: Tyler Burrows (Strained Knee 3-10 Days)
We are through to the next round of the Champions League, and we will play Marseille, who knocked us out of the Europa League a few seasons ago, revenge would be nice.
League going ok, but i dont see us catching the champions, as they are 11 points ahead. We are currently 4th, we need to stop drawing though.
CSKA Moscow offered £6m for Ben Flash, which was accepted due to the loan agreement, and he accepted, and has stayed in Russia.
Flash's replacement is Argentine German Calvo, who joins from AZ.
Burrows and Fuller were named as subs in the World Team of the Year.
Well it looks like Donatello has finally put his scoring boots on, but I guess lugging round a big stick stops him scoring as often as he should.
Destiny is still below a goal per game allowed, which given his lower CA is a definite advantage.![]()
I finally get back and we start sucking it up again![]()
Knockout stage of the Champions league excellent hope we can keep it up, would be nice to beat Marseille its got to be possible ...
Damn, after a super start to the season, it looks as though I suffered from injury throughout most of December, but Donatello has stepped up in my absence which is really good news!
Arsenal have offered £32m for Burrows, so PluckaDuck, do you want him to stay or leave?
wow been a while since i checked and that man city match was insane!!
kutgw
Sell Burrows I say. Amount of quality you could bring in with that.
Yeah i can bring in better quality players, but i want to try and keep as many original players at the club as i can.
So im leaving up to him to decide if he think its time to move on, or to stay and try and win the league and champions league with the club he's been at since BSN.
Jeez, 32 million is a lot of money!
I'd like to stay, but I guess I'll do the team thing and provide Volvo with the money they need to progress to the next level. I just hope you can bring in a striker as good as me![]()
Some players that could be Burrows replacement, IF Burrows actually wants to leave, which i expect he will.
Neven Petricevic
Paulo Rosa
Diego Buonocore
Matias Carrasco
All look pretty decent i think, its just which to sign![]()
I'm leaving the decision with you Charles! If you want me to go, I'll go, if not, then I'm more than happy to stay![]()
See if you can get that kind of money from someone other then Arsenal first tho. Don't need Burrows coming back to bite us
Of the 4 strikers you got I think Paulo Rosa is the best one, plus he's not injured like the Croatian is.
I'd choose Carrasco as 1st, Rosa is my 2nd as I tend to like players with high flair moreI'm not commenting on Trunnardi's form as he's not being played regulary at Chelsea. Gotta improve himself and move out if possible
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One of those players has joined, cost us a fair bit too, but less than Burrows cost Arsenal.
January Update coming soon.
Just posting so the Jan update is on page 9 haha
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