Originally posted by LillyWhiteBoy:
Originally posted by Ackter:
FM has pretty much always been about creating a self-sustaining football world that a human user can take part in. Get the AI numbers right is incredibly important.
The other important thing, which is not at acceptable levels yet imo, is the feedback that the user is given by the AI world. We need to know how the world of football works - FM may not work exactly like the real world, but it's the FM world we need to understand. The game should be giving us a lot more information.
For example, take Fred here. If he could click a button called "tactical analyser" and then be given a few hints and tips about what might be going wrong, and what might be going right, he'd then be in a much better position to get his tactics working as he wants them to.
The point, for those that seem to have missed it, is that in an AI vs AI game, both teams "play" the game on a level footing, ie, they use the game's built in tactics, tweaked and honed over years of refining the game's data and code.
Humans come along, thinks he can do better, puts his tactics together on the space of minutes/hours, buys a bunch of stars to play them (whether it suits their style of play or not) and when some are not successful quickly enough, they blame the game, rather than reviewing their own tactics.
No I don't have stats, and I find them boring even WHEN they can prove a bug exists because of the following reason.
The first version of the game I played was CM 4. With that version, and EVERY version since I have never once, been unable to find a way to adapt tactically, to the point where I can consistently have winning seasons. How long does it take to get on top of a new version of the game? Usually take me several months of starting games, adjusting tactics, interpreting results, refining, replacing, re-working. Basically the sort of thing a real manager does when given enough time at a club (sorry Sam, that was meant as a cheap shot at the geordies).
Yes, I'm a mad fool who howls in frustration at Jermain Defoe when he backpasses to his own keeper from the opposition six yard line and an open goal behind him. Yes, I abuse players and referees alike at the number of a opponents who score their first goal of the year against MY teams.
BUT!!. Every single season, I stick at it, tweaking, refining, rebuilding until I beat this damn game, just so I can sit back and DARE SI to make a game I can't whip!
So have some patience, display some real discipline, get your heads down and WORK at beating the game. Don't wait for the game to lie down for you, don't edit the data, find your own way to beat the game. It CAN be done.