Welcome to the third season of the Big Euro Nation Challenge, this year sponsored by iacovone, Lower Leagues Rule & rlipscombe in place of founder JoseRR.
The challenge runs similarly to many of the other popular challenges seen in the CSE forum (see dafuge's, Gundo's, rancer's and razor's) in that the aim is to guide a previously unplayable club from one of the below chosen league's to the top of the domestic and European food chain.
The Possible Countries
The available nations to manage are:
France
Spain
Italy
Portugal
Germany
additional:
Holland
Scotland
Turkey
A word on the above three newly added leagues: With the help of my two accomplices (Lower Leagues Rule & rlipscombe), we have found a niche in the challenge market...Scotland! The issue that has always existed with Scotland and Holland is the absence of a promotion/relegation structure in the bottom playable league. This year however, we are experimenting with a new format. If you choose to manage in Scotland you should holiday for one year (as per usual) and then select the team that finished rock bottom of this league. If you choose to manage in Holland you should holiday the game for two years as this is when the new relegation/promotion rules come into play. Turkey should be holidayed as per usual and is a new addition to the challenge as it's league reputation is now too large for Gundo's challenge.
Saved Games (holidayed):
Scotland - Elgin - Saved 1st June
Scottish Save - Stranraer - 16th of June
Holland -
Spain - Saved at Reset Date
Portugal - Saved 28th June (Reset 30th)
Italy - Saved 28th June (Reset 30th)
France - Saved 19th June (Reset 20th)
Germany - 1 day before reset date
League Reset Dates:
Based on FM09, a list of all the league reset dates are shown below. If you have found any changes to this, please let me know.
The Rules -PlayingCode:France - 19th June Germany - 19th June Italy - 29th June Portugal - 23rd June Spain - 10th July Holland - 7th July
Load a game with all the available divisions within the nation you selected only (only one nation is allowed).
A large database should be ticked (although you are free to choose a medium or small database option if you wish). Any official SI patch may be used, but no other edited databases can be used for this challenge.
You may also go into 'custom' database and add 'top players' from any continent you choose.
Attribute masking should be enabled, with no additional players from any nation loaded.
The extra levels of detail that you can change while in the game are up to you, as they shouldn't make a difference. It is advised that you select ‘Load all Players’ for the country you are in. (This has been proven to provide you with over 50% more players in some countries!)
Add yourself as an unemployed manager, the details are not important at all, as you will not use this man to manage your club.
Go on holiday until the reset date of your chosen nation, this shouldn't take that long, perhaps about an hour. Saving on the day before this date may give you a better choice of teams by reloading the game then going on holiday for one day, I would strongly recommend trying this.
Retire your unemployed manager. Add a new manager, the options are up to you but 'past experience' must be set to the lowest possible which is 'Sunday league footballer'. I have no issue with the chosen nationality of your manager - in fact I would suggest that choosing the nationality that fits your chosen country to manage in would be the fairest option.
Then choose to take over any club which has been promoted to the bottom playable league of your nation.
You must now manage this club to the national top division title, then progress to be champions of Europe. This doesn’t have to occur in the same season, just with the same club. Should you be sacked at any point during the game, you may either re-start the challenge with a new team and a new save game, or you may wish to continue on your current save game, taking over a club at the end of the season under the same rules as before.
There are no restrictions on parent and feeder clubs, and you must be able to scout a player before you buy them - you don’t have to actually scout them, just that the option is available. You may also sign players you can attract to the club via a trial.
The use of any external utilities and editors (Such as Genie Scout or FMM) are prohibited.
DDT Files (kindly provided by Lower Leagues Rule)
France
Germany
Holland
Italy
Portugal
Scotland
Spain (updated)
The above files, when installed to the correct directory will retain players in the lower league sides and throughout the nation of the file you have downloaded.
Here's where they needs to go:
Use the C:\Program Files\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2009\data\db\1000\edt folder...
There is also a much detailed guide found here
The Rules - Posting
Player naming is allowed. (This is a warning for those of you who do not wish to see this)
Discussion of tactics is allowed. (This is another warning for those of you who do not wish to see this)
Please use screenshots for any aspect of your game you wish to share - this is actively encouraged!
When you join the challenge, could you post a screenshot of your manager's profile as soon as you join your club.
Progress of your club should be documented using this thread, we want to hear the story of your club all the way through. Please keep us updated, even if you are doing badly.
At the end of every season, could everyone post some kind of season review, including at least a screenshot of a league table and the clubs transfer page. If you give this a title in bold it makes it a bit easier to pick out.
How to Post a Screenshot
- While in FM, press the 'Prt Sc' button (usually next to F12 on your keyboard).
- Open an image editing program such as Paint and paste the image
- Save the file as a JPEG
- Upload the image to an image hosting website such as Photobucket or Imageshack
- Post the direct Url to the image here.
Finally I would like to wish everyone taking on this challenge the best of luck on a long and hard journey to managerial success!
FM09's thread was a massive success and huge improvement on the FM08 version in both participation and atmosphere. As core members for both years, myself, LLR and rlipscombe would like to add that we are here to help for the new challengers and hope everybody that participates contributes considerably to the thread. There is nothing better than getting immersed not only in your own game but providing the encouragement to other people's attempts too. Remember we are all fighting the same battle - to defeat the AI (and uncover fabulous newgens!) - therefore it goes without saying that any form of cheating will be severely chastised. Don't do it! We had an incident last year, lets not see it again - it spoils the challenge for the hard workers in here.
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They also cannot pass, as I found out in the friendlies, or tackle... Or stay fit... Two Friendlies 4 days apart and they are all shattered and had to sit out the third one...haha my Youth are currently down 2-0 vs Salisbury.

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