Career Updates Forum Mini Updates Thread

**-SL** · 13-07-2010 02:16

Got bored :P

Beat Bolton away in the league 1-0 and beat WBA in the FA Cup Quarters 2-1. Palermo next up Europa League in Villa Park.

**foggy** · 13-07-2010 02:33

Originally Posted by stemlfc

I'd go for Diarra as he's a proper DM whereas Gago is a deep playmaker.

yeah im gonna use cattermole as a deep lying playmaker, but diarra costs 1m more

**foggy** · 13-07-2010 03:30

had avery good pre season so far, won every game and sscored a lot of goals. brought in fernando gago, nicky shorey, tony hibbert, lukaku and jadson (will come january). probs could have got some better players but it is a small squad so i needed a few in

**foggy** · 13-07-2010 03:49

the first signs of light are creeping through the window as the season approaches, tough start with city, arsenal and liverpool all to come in the first 4 games!

**-SL** · 13-07-2010 04:05

i'm still up

progressed with a 4-1 agg win over palermo

**foggy** · 13-07-2010 04:12

jus beat city in the first game 2-1, thanks to darren bent and a robinho OG. lee cattermole nearly c*cked it up by scoring an OG and getting sent off!

**-SL** · 13-07-2010 04:28

i've got monaco, followed by atletico/lyon in semi finals if i win

**foggy** · 13-07-2010 04:40

-SL, who have been your best signings?

**-SL** · 13-07-2010 05:11

Yoann Gourcuff this season has been a wonderful playmaker - once I found the right role for him. Most of my signings are for the future and the squad is still mainly the original - reshaped with Downing retrained to AMC and the addition of Gourcuff. Otamendi has been hit and miss and Davies has been better this season - but Dunne is starting his decline so I need him to step up next season.

Ah, I always forget Annan. Unsung hero of my team, keeps the midfield ticking.

**stemlfc** · 13-07-2010 11:41

Originally Posted by -SL

Yoann Gourcuff this season has been a wonderful playmaker - once I found the right role for him. Most of my signings are for the future and the squad is still mainly the original - reshaped with Downing retrained to AMC and the addition of Gourcuff. Otamendi has been hit and miss and Davies has been better this season - but Dunne is starting his decline so I need him to step up next season.

Ah, I always forget Annan. Unsung hero of my team, keeps the midfield ticking.

I find him to be hugely effectual on the left as an advanced play maker. You can retrain him there to be natural within a season but he is confident from the off. He got 21 goals with that wonderful right peg of his and 35 assist in one season for me.

**Deisler26** · 13-07-2010 11:43

Just played my first European match in 10 years and Sparta's first Euro match in 30 years.

Result? 5-0 vs OB. Result!

**Grecian_03** · 13-07-2010 15:13

They don't like all-nighter threads any more so we tried making a forum for it instead. Sparse but it works btter

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**foggy** · 13-07-2010 18:38

anybody up tonight?

**stemlfc** · 14-07-2010 01:16

I'm up tonight.

**-SL** · 14-07-2010 01:22

Unfortunately not after half 2 for me - I fell asleep after getting bored sometime near 10 last night and didn't wake up 'till ten to 5pm. Felt tired all day and need to get up for a haircut tomorrow - been putting it off forever! until half 2 I'll be finishing up season 2 though.

**stemlfc** · 14-07-2010 01:31

Another. Fourth in four saves with Liverpool.

**stemlfc** · 14-07-2010 01:33

Just completed too. This is by far the richest I've ever been. I didn't want this to happen really. I wanted to see how I could handle the debt.

**England4Ever** · 14-07-2010 01:36

i'm up tonight till about 3am, playing my Leeds United save. Currently at 11 March 2015, 2nd in the Premier League, and just about to play Valencia in the 1st knockout round 2nd Leg of the European Champions Cup, 2-1 Down after the first leg.

England4Ever

**darrylv2** · 14-07-2010 01:48

Originally Posted by stemlfc

Another. Fourth in four saves with Liverpool.

ha thats crazy i might have to try and do a ll nighter with liverpool .. Does this sort of thing happen often ? 10.3 patch im guessing?

**stemlfc** · 14-07-2010 01:52

It seems to happen almost every save I've done somewhere along the line.

Genoa
Fiorentina
Villarreal
A.C Milan
Liverpool
Newcastle

I don't know why I'm targeted so easily by these super rich tycoons.

**England4Ever** · 14-07-2010 01:54

it must be your winning smile

**darrylv2** · 14-07-2010 01:56

haha i wish i was targeted a bit more

Just starting a new save with Liverpool now .. I hope there have another money for my three favioute players

Otamendi,Annan and diego b(something) argintena player

**stemlfc** · 14-07-2010 02:00

Must be

It becomes annoying when you want to challenge yourself.

**stemlfc** · 14-07-2010 02:04

Rubin Kazan 1 - Liverpool 4

On a good little fun but I keep getting silly little knocks. Injury crisis seems to have passed. Had to give some debuts earlier than I thought I would but no harm done. Overall good form with only two slip ups in a defeat away to Fulham and a draw at home to Birmingham. Sitting top with 9 games gone, 3 conceded (mean defence) and 18 scored.

**malikoi** · 14-07-2010 02:13

Originally Posted by stemlfc

Must be

It becomes annoying when you want to challenge yourself.

In all the Arsenal saves I have had, and 1 Man City save, Liverpool have never been taken over. Hicks & Co have buggered off in all but Liverpool still have a mammoth pile of debt!

**stemlfc** · 14-07-2010 02:20

A friend of mine has been taken over by a few consortium's now and then.

The new chairman has just cut the debt in half. Always nice to see.

**-SL** · 14-07-2010 02:21

title is up to us

35 games played 3 points clear of Spurs if i beat liverpool who are equal with spurs

**stemlfc** · 14-07-2010 02:24

Good luck!

Liverpool 1 - Man Utd 0

Anyone know how much Man Utd's monthly payments are?

**England4Ever** · 14-07-2010 02:24

Beat Valencia 1-0 with a fine 30 yard strike from Jack Rodwell, but went out on away goals.. oh well maybe next season

**foggy** · 14-07-2010 02:25

my saved game from last night was corrupted! wasnt doing too well anyway... now im QPR, brought in mclean, spurr, arron gunnarson so far. trying to get some young foreginers in

**-SL** · 14-07-2010 02:27

cheers stem

drew with pool so a win against united home or hull away should win me it as i have a superior gd

drew again against united, 1 point and better GD into last game Away to Hull - COME ON VILLA

**England4Ever** · 14-07-2010 02:36

check out Rasmus Elm from AZ Alkmarr, he should be about 20/21 yo in your game.. Has turned in to a classy Midfielder for me at Leeds

**-SL** · 14-07-2010 02:42

Won the premier division with Villa thanks to a gabby gabby gabby gabby agbonlahor double away at hull!

delighted, staying up longer now

**foggy** · 14-07-2010 02:46

Originally Posted by England4Ever

check out Rasmus Elm from AZ Alkmarr, he should be about 20/21 yo in your game.. Has turned in to a classy Midfielder for me at Leeds

he looks good mat but with buzsaky, ben watson, gunnarson and faurlin im covered for CMs. ive finished off my pre season spending with bringing chris brunt

**stemlfc** · 14-07-2010 02:47

Well done !

**foggy** · 14-07-2010 02:55

congrats! so whats ur best sucess every1?

**-SL** · 14-07-2010 02:55

Resigned as I feel I have completed my challenge at Villa Park and have no motivation to bring them further. My ass man Bonini followed me aswell.

thanks stem & foggy

**stemlfc** · 14-07-2010 03:01

Numerous titles are always things I look back on with pride.

I suppose winning A.C Milans tenth European Cup was a nice moment. A regen scored the winner against Liverpool from my youth system in the final with seconds to go. Finished 1 - 0 to me.

**-SL** · 14-07-2010 03:07

In my search for my 2nd job, Greece opted for a homegrown gaffer, who's never managed outside Greece

rejected Man United as I felt they have shipped in too much deadwood over the 2 seasons, also feel like somewhere outside of England for a change

**England4Ever** · 14-07-2010 03:14

i guess my best success was winning my 1st Premier League Title in charge of Leeds in Season 2013, also winning the League Cup the same year. Won the European Champions Cup the year after as well as the F.A. Cup. This Season 2015, I have won the Community SHield, European Super Cup and World Club Championship so far, and Still in the FA.Cup, and 2nd in the League just 1 point behind Chelsea with 8 games to go.

**foggy** · 14-07-2010 03:15

i prefer being teams in the championship, i think my best game on fm10 was getting scunthorpe to automatic promotion to the prem in the second season. its seems that on every fm game man united always do rubbish!

**England4Ever** · 14-07-2010 03:22

i did a save game as manager of Worcester City once, and got them from the Blue Square South to the Championship before i lost the save game

**foggy** · 14-07-2010 03:27

my bro did summat like that , we did a network game, i was torquay and he was stevenage, both in the BSP (fm08). in the 1st season we both got to the play off final! he won and in 6 or 7 seasons got them to the prem, whereas i left torquay to go to brighton, where i was sacked! what could have been eh...

**-SL** · 14-07-2010 03:47

can only imagine how tense that final would've been foggy

how are you doing currently?

aaaaand I venture into International management with my RL national side - Ireland (italian in game)

**foggy** · 14-07-2010 04:01

i won my first game agains crystal palace, was a little unsure about signing mclean but he scored on his debut. beat torquay easily in the 1st round of the LC. have a really tough match against west brom which i lost 2-1, but were probs the better side. promising signs. so with ireland are you still in qualifying for the euros (3rd season?)

**-SL** · 14-07-2010 04:07

no i was on holiday so it's now december and qualifying is over...might not have much to do with ireland but some friendlies until WCQ

**-SL** · 14-07-2010 06:36

ROLECALL!

who's still up then?

I've recently taken up the Padova job in Serie B

**stemlfc** · 14-07-2010 13:49

I fell asleep. I'm weak.

I'll be playing throughout today and tonight as I have nothing on.

**stemlfc** · 14-07-2010 22:53

Anyone on tonight?

**-SL** · 14-07-2010 22:57

I stayed up the whole time but I'll keep going 'till I crash tonight. Currently working on a New Zealand db to get familiar with the editor in time for FM11.

**darrylv2** · 14-07-2010 23:42

still on my save from last night (liverpool) going very well

chairman is looking to leave aswell

My tactic is really getting the most out of torres

**Deisler26** · 14-07-2010 23:58

Jesus wept. Our first Dutch Cup game since winning it last year and we struggled to a win on pens against a reserve side. Horrible.

**foggy** · 15-07-2010 00:10

as if we have been moved! i didnt even notice! im getting desperate now, i need a good team to be

**Deisler26** · 15-07-2010 00:15

Originally Posted by foggy

as if we have been moved! i didnt even notice! im getting desperate now, i need a good team to be

I've enjoyed careers with Albacete, Atalanta, FC Carl Zeiss Jena and Sparta Rotterdam on FM10. Try one of those?

**stemlfc** · 15-07-2010 00:22

I gave up on that save I was doing with Liverpool. I was too rich. Stupid tycoons.

Anyone got any suggestions?

**Deisler26** · 15-07-2010 00:23

Originally Posted by stemlfc

I gave up on that save I was doing with Liverpool. I was too rich. Stupid tycoons.

Anyone got any suggestions?

See my above post

**stemlfc** · 15-07-2010 00:26

I didn't see that sorry.

None of them appeal, being honest. I have actually tried Rotterdam and Atalanta but I'm stuck in a rut at the moment.

**Deisler26** · 15-07-2010 00:36

Originally Posted by stemlfc

I didn't see that sorry.

None of them appeal, being honest. I have actually tried Rotterdam and Atalanta but I'm stuck in a rut at the moment.

Fair enough. AC Ajaccio?

**foggy** · 15-07-2010 00:37

stemlfc, which patch were you using to get taken over? might do that one day. for now im thinking of being spurs

**stemlfc** · 15-07-2010 00:42

10.3 I'm using.

I've decided to start unemployed and see where that takes me.

**foggy** · 15-07-2010 00:44

what with automatic as you past experience?

**stemlfc** · 15-07-2010 00:48

Yeah, but with higher leagues loaded. I'll get a job as a struggling relegation candidate in an obscure European League no doubt.

You decided a team yet?

**foggy** · 15-07-2010 01:01

yeah, havent managed in league 1 for ages so gonna be huddersfield - they have a couple of good players like jordan rhodes.

**foggy** · 15-07-2010 02:21

hows the job hunting going?

**Deisler26** · 15-07-2010 02:46

I'm currently second in the Eredivisie with 11 games gone. And playing Roda JC in the Fourth Round of the Dutch Cup.

Best successes on FM10 have been 2 Copa Del Rey's in two stints at Albacete in a now sadly corrupted save.

**foggy** · 15-07-2010 03:15

deisler, which team are you, are youn in the first season? Also darrylv2, which tactic did you use to get torres scoring like that!

**Deisler26** · 15-07-2010 06:07

Originally Posted by foggy

deisler, which team are you, are youn in the first season? Also darrylv2, which tactic did you use to get torres scoring like that!

I'm Sparta Rotterdam and I'm in the 2020-2021 season.

As my status says <-----

**Fallenone** · 15-07-2010 06:41

Bobby Zamora decided to turn up for the Trinidad Tobago Natl Team! Just started at fulham!

**Hershie** · 16-07-2010 03:17

**** me this thread is still vaguely alive?

I should probably play some FM.

**Deisler26** · 16-07-2010 20:28

The other one is still alive Hersh

Typical FM. There's nothing like a fairytale ending and this is indeed, nothing like a fairytale ending!

Despite having qualified for Europe for the first time in 27 years and then actually making it out of the group as well, against all odds, what happens?

Inter in the First Knockout Round

**Fabregas18** · 17-07-2010 20:12

Started a save with Hoffenheim on the 10.3 patch with an update for the summer of 2010. Going pretty well, and I'm currently 4th in the league into February. Have signed players like Khedira, Heiko Butscher and Felix Kroos. I've also been drawn against Dortmund in the semi-final of the german cup. My best performers are Demba Ba, Chinedu Obasi, Ibisevic and Salihovic. I've also made a banner with Hopp, the stadium and some players. Click me!

Please check out, and comment on, the full thread here: Hoffenheim - With the money of Dietmar Hopp

**Deisler26** · 18-07-2010 23:53

Oh arsebiscuits!

Clicked the wrong button and am now getting a 29 year old Cameroonian striker in the summer that I can't afford

**pezza1** · 23-07-2010 00:19

Love this forum and just though I would post my progress quickly on my career game at the moment. Have no desire to start a whole new thread but thought I would share anyway!!

Season 09/10 - Started Unemployed but got hired at my local club North Leigh in the Southern First Division South/West. Despite pre-season preditions of a low mid-table finish we brilliantly won away from home on the final day against Gosport (I think!) to snatch the title in my first season.

Season 10/11 - Promotion to the Southern Premier Division proved premature for my team as we struggled all season and a winless run in the league of 13 matches was something we wouldnt recover from and we were relegated in 23rd place. My general running of the team including a tight wage budget meant I was (bearly) able to hang onto my job! A run to the Southern Cup semi-finals may have helped my cause in this respect

Season 11/12 - So back in the the Southern First Division South/West and we were this time hot favourites to bounce straight back up. I had managed to hold on to what was a vastly improved squad from the previous season and after a tricky start we romped home with the league title with 2 games to spare to move back into the Southern Premier Division.

Season 12/13 - We made a much better go of things after promotion this season learning from some of the mistakes from 2 years ago. By just after the halfway stage we were in a comfortable lower mid-table position. However I wasnt happy as my wage budget had been slashed for the 3rd consecutive season and our attendances were not improving despite our promotion. I started looking for jobs during the season and Newtown in the Welsh Premier League decided to take a punt on me. Incidently, 2 years previous I had turned down an offer from their rivals Welshpool. So I signed a 2 year deal at Newtown but found the club in some debt and also just above the relegation places with confidence low in the squad. Despite not winning a game under my stewardship for the rest of the season we managed to stay up with a draw in our penultimate game.

Season 13/14 - Improvements needed to be made and a few summer signings freshened up the squad and we had a solid season finishing 8th place in the league. The real success came in the Loosemores League cup where the team went all the way to the final and beat Bangor City 2-1 for my first major cup success!

Season 14/15 - Once again strengthening in the summer improved our squad and we were extremely consistent in the league even briefly threatening the leaders before we fell away in March. We ended up finishing third and qualifying for the Europa League qualifiers. Another good run in the Loosemores League cup saw us through to the semi-finals where we were beaten by Aberwyswyth (sp?) over 2 legs.

Season 15/16 - After an opening day defeat the team went on a 14 match unbeaten run to keep a pace with the leaders going into the new year. We had also once again had success in the Loosemores League cup reaching the final where we were to meet Llanethli (sp?) In february we were in 4th place when Derby County offered me the job whilst they were rock bottom of the Coca Cola Championship. I excepted and have played just one match so far, losing to Southampton away 1-0.

So there it is so far. 3 clubs, 2 league titles, 1 cup and 1 (potentially 2) relegation(s). I think its been an interesting career so far and I have thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. Hope everyone is enjoying their games as much as I am!!

**Stemlfc65** · 23-07-2010 20:01

I shall be on tonight, nothing planned this whole weekend so it's a Football Manager marathon.

**petauk** · 23-07-2010 21:15

ok slept most of the say so me thinks will need to carry on my celtic 2017 save tonight. bringing thru some upcoming new stars and a few looking like big time players

oooh looking forward to it now lol

**Deisler26** · 23-07-2010 23:06

Typical. I try and build a decent squad for the title and my chairman sells off my best player!!!!

**Deisler26** · 23-07-2010 23:31

Originally Posted by Deisler26

Typical. I try and build a decent squad for the title and my chairman sells off my best player!!!!

Or not! He signed the new contract!

**Deisler26** · 23-07-2010 23:48

Oh my. Qualifying for the Champions League for the first time in the 94th minute has to be one of my favourite moments ever!!!

**Deisler26** · 24-07-2010 00:00

My first ever Champions League group? Real Madrid, Marseille and Panathanikos. Oh.

**England4Ever** · 25-07-2010 01:47

good look in your first champions league group outing Deisler

**Deisler26** · 27-07-2010 01:34

We've just dispatched AZ 5-1 to remain top of the Eredivise after suffering just 1 defeat so far out of 15.

I'm really excited about the future of this team!

**Deisler26** · 28-07-2010 03:14

Oh. My. God. The legend is back. £6.5m from Barca...

**Deisler26** · 28-07-2010 19:59

And it's a clean sweep of trophies in Holland for me!

**Deisler26** · 31-07-2010 04:34

The second ever Champions League group for us?

Barcelona, Marseille and Shaktar Donetsk... FFS!

**joeissimo** · 06-08-2010 11:57

Hi guys I have just started a career game. Mine is rather small scale, Im Hong Kong nationality with english as second natioanlity. I only start England Italy and Spain from Championship Serie B and Seconda Liga 6 leagues. I begin unemployed with Semi-Pro experience. My aim in my career is to prgress as a manager, hopefully can manager a top side and win a league and even champions league in 10 or 12 years time. Would love to manage a nation one day too.

So I went on holiday,came back seeing Reading has offered me a job after they have fired the previous manager McDermott after he led them to 9 points from 12 and lying in relegation zone in the championship. In the press conference I thank the chairman Sir Madejski for his faith in me as I have little coaching experience. I however am confident that with hardwork, commitment and determination, I can drive this team forward and push for promotion as media have predicted before the start of the season, so my aim is to get back into top 6 and hopefully can snatch a play-off place. Its a big task as we are 11 points behind 6th placed team but we still have 34 games until the season ends so there are plenty of time to catch up. Id hope to show my managerial ability and hope to attract some bigger team and if the chance arrive I wouldn't hesitate to progress as Im an ambitious manager.

The first thing I do is to hire my assistant right away as I badly need help for the rebuilding job. I have hired Al Stewart who was previously a ManCity youth coach, Al possess great ability as an assistant as he is good at man management, motivating and very good discipline. And I let most of my staff go as I dint think they are good enough, I do manage to sign a few good coaches and couple of physios who all have over 15 in their specializing attribute and national reputation. I did however kept a few originally staff to make sure the transition would go smoothly. After assessing my squad Im very pleased as the reading squad are quite talented and it has a lot of promising young players. That makes me optimistic about the future. Club Captain Ívar Ingimarsson has been at the club for a long time, I will rely on him to liaise with the players. The players who impressed me most is Turkish young star midfielder Jem Karacan. He got great skills and defensive ability as well, he will be the main man for me in the middle of the park. We had a few loans and the most notable is Zurab Khizanishvili the Georgian defender, hopefully he will give us more quality and experience at the back. One problem I need to address is the defensive midfield area where we are a bit short. I will look to the free transfer market since its the middle of October. There are not much good quality players available. Im interested in 36 year old former Brazilian international Amaral. Despite his age he still got great physical form and his experience from playing in different country should make him settled in England quickly.Made an offer for him unil the end of the season and he accepted, however it is still unknown weather he will be granted a work permit despite he had 31 Int caps. I'll know in a few days if we could sign him on, I have an alternative ready in Matt Holland who now without a club and a player with a massive experience, a good alternative to should Amaral fails to get his permit.

As for tactics, Im a advocate of Mouinho. So I will employ an balance and compact 4-2-3-1 formation. Since there is no Maicons in my team my full back will only support the attack, a holding midfielder and a battler with two wide defensive wingers who would track back without the ball and will look to launch a quick counter when we recover possession. Gylfi Sigurðsson, the young and promising Icelandic playmaker will be my Sneijder to support the lone striker up front.

My first game in charge was away to QPR, I tell the boys to be calm and there is no pressure as we are in a bad run I dont wanna give them too much pressure. Despite going down 0-1 from a corner scramble at the start of second half, we showed character and fought back to draw level with striker Long. We actually dominated the rest of the game but the QPR keeper was outstanding, so the game ended 1-1. A spirited draw where I see a lot of positives from the game, that makes me happy and optimistic. Next up will be league cup and we are traveling to Anfield! A massive opportunity for the boys to prove a point without any pressure.

I will update the progress later hope you enjoy it.

**dafuge** · 06-08-2010 12:01

Brazil are continuing to be savages with their managers, the latest one lasted six weeks and three friendly matches

**dafuge** · 06-08-2010 12:14

Never mind, they've hired another 30 year old with no experience at all, I'm sure they will be fine.

**duckman4442006** · 09-08-2010 09:19

Brazil have just offered me a job lol.
no way am i going to take it, U must be crazy to manage Brazil they to sack happy

**dafuge** · 09-08-2010 14:25

Probably not that funny, but this made me chuckle. I'm getting my scouts to report back on my players I have out on loan:

My scout doesn't sound too impressed

Could he be any more vague?

**Jason the Yank** · 13-08-2010 05:40

Heh, I'm playing anti-football. Last 5 matches in league and cup have been 0-0, 0-0, 0-0, 0-1, 0-0. In our 9 league matches, there have been a total of 9 goals.

**Jason the Yank** · 13-08-2010 08:56

Apparently we were just saving up. We just put 5 past the bottom side in the last 30 minutes of the match, with one of my strikers bagging a hat-trick in 7 minutes.

**Jason the Yank** · 13-08-2010 13:31

Just had without question the most sublime goal I've scored on FM '10.

Striker takes the ball down the left, surges past the fullback, cuts into the box parallel with the end line, sidesteps a center back, shoots, hits the inside of the far post and it bounces in. \o/

Pretty cool when you're shaking your head at the little 3D figures.

**Vangelis21** · 13-08-2010 18:57

just started with woking. my target is to win epl and champions league in less than 10 years!

**Jason the Yank** · 14-08-2010 00:52

Couple managerial changes in my save (now into spring 2013). Louis van Gaal has taken charge of Arsenal, and Frank Rijkaard is the new boss at AC Milan.

**DSYoungEsq** · 14-08-2010 04:40

Originally Posted by dafuge

Probably not that funny, but this made me chuckle. I'm getting my scouts to report back on my players I have out on loan:

My scout doesn't sound too impressed

Could he be any more vague?

I love this. You know exactly where he stands now, don't you? <LOL>

At least he has "some" ability.

**Vangelis21** · 14-08-2010 06:26

after playing some of the friendly games i saw that my team (Woking) can have a bright future. We will see how it goes. i really hope towards an easy promotion first season

**Vangelis21** · 15-08-2010 13:11

First two results of the season

Woking vs

Welling (A)2-1
Chelmsford (H)2-1
Worcester (H)4-0

Not a bad start!
I signed 3-4 free players and trying to loan 3 more.
Difficult task

**T3APOT** · 15-08-2010 20:21

It only took about 3 months for Stranraer's local news reporter to hate me and 2 and an odd bit years later I haven't been able to win him round

**Vangelis21** · 15-08-2010 21:35

lol, so managers' aiam are outside the field now? hehe

**Vangelis21** · 17-08-2010 11:25

hellooooo managers....
almost half way through blue square south with Woking. Incredible start, bad continuation...
lying on the 2nd place a little far from top

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