+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 33 of 33

Thread: Worst Feature in FM poll

  1. #1
    Amateur
    Join Date
    31st August 2009
    Posts
    444

    Default Worst Feature in FM poll

    I think it might be usefull for SI to have a thread created so they could see what players think the worst features are in FM and how they could be improved and why they think they do not work at the moment.

    It not an opportunity to moan about FM but to give constructive feedback as sometimes its not just about creating new features but righting the wrongs of old ones.

    Rules are Simple
    1 - Think of a current feature you dislike
    2 - Why don't you like it
    3 - How could it be improved

  2. #2
    Amateur
    Join Date
    18th May 2007
    Location
    We're not really here!
    Posts
    567

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Why be negative?

  3. #3
    Amateur
    Join Date
    21st June 2007
    Posts
    351

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    It isn't at all negative - he asks for constructive feedback on why you don't like it and how ti could be improved.

    Sycophantically fawning over everything SI does isn't going to improve future releases, constructive feedback is.

  4. #4

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    This is a good thread, well done TheGulls
    Urm, A feature which I don't like is the Formations board where you set out the players.
    I don't like it because it seems quite ridged and doesn't allow for a more free formation, for example if I wanted to create the Barca formation, the midfield would have to be a central defensive midfielder (Toure), a right sided box to box central midfielder (Xavi) and a slightly left/central attacking midfielder (Iniesta). This is not currently possible.
    I would personally like it if it was a bit like Pro Evo and how they create formations.
    What does everybody think?

  5. #5
    Amateur
    Join Date
    31st August 2009
    Posts
    444

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    Why be negative?
    I love FM but stongly believe the way to improve things isn't always by adding new features so getting feedback on current features and how they can be improved will also add value to the overall product. Its the same in any other industry.

  6. #6
    Banned
    Join Date
    24th September 2008
    Location
    Trainspotting
    Posts
    11,531

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Quote Originally Posted by guspjmh View Post
    It isn't at all negative - he asks for constructive feedback on why you don't like it and how ti could be improved.

    Sycophantically fawning over everything SI does isn't going to improve future releases, constructive feedback is.
    There's a phrase you won't read every day ;)

    Good idea OP.

  7. #7
    First Team
    Join Date
    5th June 2007
    Location
    Reading
    Posts
    22,222

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    The current ME.
    I dislike it because it isn't as good (realistic, watchable, controllable) as past MEs.
    Rip it out, stick in 07's. Make minor tweaks to 07's.

  8. #8
    Third Team
    Join Date
    1st September 2006
    Posts
    6,217

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGulls View Post
    I think it might be usefull for SI to have a thread created so they could see what players think the worst features are in FM and how they could be improved and why they think they do not work at the moment.

    It not an opportunity to moan about FM but to give constructive feedback as sometimes its not just about creating new features but righting the wrongs of old ones.

    Rules are Simple
    1 - Think of a current feature you dislike
    2 - Why don't you like it
    3 - How could it be improved
    1. Well I suppose the current feature that most people dont particularly like is the press conferences.
    2. The reason, for me anyway, is the questions are so boring and repetitive.
    3. The Fix? Well some variety and imagination in the questions is the obvious place to start. I just cant think of any right now to start off

  9. #9
    Part-Timer
    Join Date
    15th November 2003
    Location
    England
    Posts
    1,505

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    I most dislike press conferences. They are tiresome and repetitive and they do more to harm the flow of the game than to improve the enjoyment and immerse you. I like the idea of them in theory, but to make it a worthwhile feature they would need to be toned down so they aren't almost every match, and so that there are hundreds if not thousands more possible questions/answers.

    The news item you get after a press conference is terrible, too. All it basically does is give some lame headline like "blah set to adopt an attacking style" or something like that, followed by the question and a copy and paste job of your answer. What's the point?!?

  10. #10
    Semi Pro
    Join Date
    26th November 2007
    Location
    Dallas, Texas, USA
    Posts
    2,117

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Press conferences.... good idea, less than stellar execution. I think that the press conferences should be called when a star player is signed/sold, at the beginning/end of season or cup competition, when a new manager is signed, before big/rivalry games (only), or other "unique" events of the season. The twice for each and every match is a bit much.

    The club's staff is an underwhelming feature of the game, but perhaps the first blogs have hinted at a renewed interest by SI to make staff a more important part of the game. I hope that the training schedule & management could be enhanced, perhaps tied to some of these new staff advice features. An enhanced staff feature is something I'm excited to know more about.

    I think improving the AI roster building / transfer / loan system would help the game, especially long-term games.

  11. #11
    Part-Timer
    Join Date
    25th October 2006
    Posts
    1,538

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Press conferences, and to a lesser extant team talks. They are boring and tedious, trying to use them positively to improve your players morale is too much hassle. I just let my assistant deal with them and I get on with actually managing the team.

  12. #12
    Amateur
    Join Date
    31st August 2009
    Posts
    444

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    It interesting to see that the press conference feature is something of a problem, its one of mine too, and as SmurfDude says they interupt the flow of the game. It is a big part of football these days and needs to be in the game but a major overhaul is required.

    I think to overcome this have the Press Conference when the game is processing data and also incorporate a bit of fun into it so you can have a banter with the press and increase your reputation this way.

    You could also have favourite journalists that recall previous comments etc.

  13. #13
    Youth Team
    Join Date
    26th January 2007
    Location
    stop feeding the trolls
    Posts
    4,146

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    good to see a thread like this, nice n constructive.

    doing a lot of LLM lately, so i spose one thing i dislike is "chairman accepting bids"

    dont want to go down the route of "we keep him or i quit" but i think there should be some leeway with it >

    sell him, and i get ALL the profits to strengthen.
    sell him but make sure at the end of the season you give me funds...
    make sure we get some future clauses in the deal ( nothing worse than him upstairs accepting a bid over yer head for pure cash.)
    sell him, but give me funds to buy player x...

    lastly...

    sell him, then re-adjust my targets for the season, as hes a huge part of my squad and without him, we wont get where i said at the start (huge amt of work to implement thou i would assume)

  14. #14
    Amateur
    Join Date
    9th August 2009
    Posts
    295

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    1. Team talks

    2. Frustrating in FM because the effects seem utterly random and the choices are repetitious. The existing tips and information made available about this feature are not accurate. Players rarely respond in the ways that the tips claim.

    3. There need to be more options for what the manager can say and do at halftime, both for specific players and especially for the team. For example, why not have the option to threaten the players that their roles or future at the club will be in jeopardy if they don't show a better performance? Why not let the manager smash up the dressing room or question a player's courage? Why not let a manager offer more types of encouragement?

    In real life, there is a long history of fiery coaches and managers having a positive impact by being extremely harsh on the players, and there needs to be functionality to reflect varied management personalities and positive effects.

    Don't bother adding options if 95% of the time they're going to unsettle the team. That's a wasted feature that no one will ever use.

    The effects need to be fairly consistent and not purely self-destructive, and we need to know more about how and when the team talks will have the desired effect.

  15. #15
    First Team
    Join Date
    12th June 2005
    Posts
    23,772

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Nothing comes remotely close to being as useless, pointless, annoying, unrealistic and unfun as press conferences.

  16. #16
    Part-Timer
    Join Date
    2nd July 2007
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    1,933

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Chairman accepting bids.

    I work in real life and I am made to feel like little more than a voiceless cog in an immense machine. The last thing I want from a game I play to escape this dehumanization is for it to in it as well. Please make this feature, press conferences, team talks etc optional at game set up.

    Please remember that FM is a game and should be fun.

  17. #17
    Part-Timer
    Join Date
    2nd July 2007
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    1,933

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainPlanet View Post
    Nothing comes remotely close to being as useless, pointless, annoying, unrealistic and unfun as press conferences.

    Captain Planet, you have 6100 posts. SI should really delete some of those infractions over time.

  18. #18
    Amateur
    Join Date
    13th July 2008
    Posts
    58

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    The way scouts work in the game for me definitely. Basically the way that I can assign a scout to follow any player instantly and get very accurate results from him isn't really realistic at all. I just find it too easy personally. There really should be some random factor involved here (inaccurate attributes is something I've suggested before) that encourages scouting players a little longer than a day or two before it's clear how good the player actually is.

    Also, it baffles me why the sounds haven't been improved at all in the recent versions of the game.

  19. #19
    Banned
    Join Date
    24th September 2008
    Location
    Trainspotting
    Posts
    11,531

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainPlanet View Post
    Nothing comes remotely close to being as useless, pointless, annoying, unrealistic and unfun as press conferences.
    What he said.

    Also, Team Talks are about as far-removed from engaging as you could possibly imagine. It'll never happen, but I'm going to try get an answer anyway (seeing as these forums are OWNED and frequented by Sports Interactive - the MAKERS of FM. Wooo! I went all 'tabloid' there ;)).. here goes:

    SI - Why oh WHY, after all these years, do we still get the reaction "Didn't seem to be listening..." when we praise our players for a good performance? Why? What possible good does it achieve? Why don't you just change it to something a little less insulting? Or do you simply revel in being known as one of the most irritating games on the market today?


    "Nothing specific noted" (or similar) would be so much better, thank you.
    Last edited by Wee Aja; 04-09-2009 at 11:15. Reason: many many typos

  20. #20
    Amateur
    Join Date
    5th October 2004
    Location
    Slovenia
    Posts
    638

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    1.) Team talks
    2.) its just a completely unrealistic mini game of choose the right answer.
    3.) Just remove it. Its impossible to implement it properly.

  21. #21
    Third Team
    Join Date
    7th March 2007
    Location
    Pro-consumer, anti-DRM. Never be satisfied with any answer. Dig until you drop.
    Posts
    6,603

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Anything to do with interaction. A general lack of any sort of variety or unpredictability means you hand it over to your assistant who proceeds to inflict Slt icons all over your team. To fix it, simply give us around a 1Gb phrase database and give us an option to ignore these by default. Saying nothing does not improve or worsen anything.

  22. #22
    Third Team
    Join Date
    24th November 2008
    Location
    Aussie fella.
    Posts
    6,961

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Quote Originally Posted by trekman View Post
    1. Well I suppose the current feature that most people dont particularly like is the press conferences.
    2. The reason, for me anyway, is the questions are so boring and repetitive.
    3. The Fix? Well some variety and imagination in the questions is the obvious place to start. I just cant think of any right now to start off
    I created a thread a while back asking people about questions they would like added. Didn't get much of a response though, seems as if people don't mind repetition.

    The Thread

    Feel free to add some

  23. #23
    Amateur
    Join Date
    14th November 2008
    Posts
    4

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Press Con - As almost everyone says, repetative and a little pointless over all, if they really changed a relationship with player, team or other manager and had real mind game effects on oppostion or negative effects ala Rafa's rant last year this would be good but more varied optionsare needed

    Tactics - A bit more freedom with formations and runs you would like certain players to make to be more accurate

  24. #24
    Amateur
    Join Date
    14th November 2008
    Posts
    4

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Set Pieces!!!!! anyone seen CM set piece creator, this is very interesting. Something like that on the training section would be fantastic on FM10

  25. #25
    Youth Team
    Join Date
    14th February 2009
    Posts
    5,416

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    CM set piece creator is horribly bugged and easily exploited. I imagine a similar addition to FM would produce similar results.

  26. #26
    Amateur
    Join Date
    22nd October 2007
    Posts
    15

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    1. Opposition tactics
    2. The reason, the fact that you have to set these before every game
    3. The fix? A way to set the same opposition tactics, such as show wingers onto their weaker foot and always close them down, so that they happen in every game. Maybe an option to set this in the team instructions

  27. #27
    First Team Squad Member
    Join Date
    27th November 2005
    Location
    Enter the dragon, exit Johnny Clarke
    Posts
    16,094

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Press conferences are easily the worst thing that along with a lack of interaction with players and other managers.

    If you search on youtube there are some cool videos of people using the set piece creator to do some crazy things. On shows them using all their attackers to drag every member of the opposition team outside the box and then the player taking the freekick lays it off the their GK who had ran all the way down the pitch, he then smashes the ball into the bottom corner.

  28. #28
    Third Team
    Join Date
    7th March 2007
    Location
    Pro-consumer, anti-DRM. Never be satisfied with any answer. Dig until you drop.
    Posts
    6,603

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Quote Originally Posted by AcidBurn View Post
    Press conferences are easily the worst thing that along with a lack of interaction with players and other managers.

    If you search on youtube there are some cool videos of people using the set piece creator to do some crazy things. On shows them using all their attackers to drag every member of the opposition team outside the box and then the player taking the freekick lays it off the their GK who had ran all the way down the pitch, he then smashes the ball into the bottom corner.
    Brilliant - link?

  29. #29
    Amateur
    Join Date
    20th October 2008
    Location
    Yorkshire
    Posts
    172

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    1. Press Conferences
    2. Repetitive
    3. Not as many/called at different times e.g new signings/you get the choice when to call them/not the same questions and answers all the time....plenty could be done to improve them

  30. #30
    Banned
    Join Date
    24th September 2008
    Location
    Trainspotting
    Posts
    11,531

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Quote Originally Posted by x42bn6 View Post
    Brilliant - link?
    Our very own gillsminnow brings you this gem...

    nonsense

  31. #31
    First Team
    Join Date
    5th June 2007
    Location
    Reading
    Posts
    22,222

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Also, the GK moves to where the free kick is going at the stage when you shoot. So if you set up a direct shot, he'll move to take up a position to where you're going to shoot to. If you pass to someone who shoots, after the pass starts he'll move to that position.

  32. #32
    Amateur
    Join Date
    14th January 2007
    Location
    Albany, New York
    Posts
    49

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Static league reputations.

  33. #33
    Amateur
    Join Date
    31st August 2009
    Posts
    444

    Default Re: Worst Feature in FM poll

    Quote Originally Posted by sidneycrosby87 View Post
    Static league reputations.

    Good shout its about time this was addressed, it doesn't have to be a major change, just slight adjustments in accordance with different events.

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts