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    just aroung july 25th
    oly signed 14 players so far
    only two english guys

    my first team squad would struggle in the championship at the moment...

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    Wow...it's incredible that city sold you Johnson for just 16m. Decent looking team too.

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    -lewis-16-

    Its not easy to assemble a team that's compete mate. Mine is going to struggle as well but it will nice to see some of the youngsters develop as the season wears on.

    If you want a couple of tips - you'll find it hard to come by strikers who are under 22, will come for 7.5M or less and will be good enough to peform at the top level. But you should be able to find some 27 or over ones who you can actually land for 10M or less and are very good. Both Amauri and Rocchi that I bought should be available for that price. There are others around as well. So try to buy senior strikers. You can also try to buy 1 expensive English striker if you want. There's one who's quality and will come for about 20M. I wont give the name away though as I'm not sure if you want names.

    There are quite a few CB's that you can buy who will be under 22 and under 7.5M and will perform well. Full backs are a little problem but there are a few around. You'll easily find good enough 22 or under players in midfield who you can buy for 7.5M or less. If you want some recommendation, let me know.


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    Really? I just declared interest first and then I put in a bid for 13M + 10% sell on and they came back with 16M straight up. I offered it and thats it!

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    interesting team hulk

    First Team Squad

    GK: joe hart(10mil), molina (free)
    LB: emmanuelson(6mil), warnock(3.5mil)
    CB: fazio (2mil), vermaelen(6mil)
    RB: m.elliot(900k), s.sabri(3mil)
    DMC: fellaini(2mil), zapater(7mil)
    CM: david jones, kivuvu(3mil), kalouda(2mil)
    LW: marcelo(5.5mil), A.Razack T(1.4mil)
    RW: barnes, osvaldo(4mil)
    ST: dayro moreno(3mil), ricardo jesus(1mil)

    *note* lots of interchangable players

    Reserve Team Squad

    omozusi(1mil)
    wijinaldum
    saivet
    aquino
    sakho
    sanhkare
    fleck
    s.arrieta (500k)
    lansbury(jan)
    danny grainger (500k)
    mattock (1.3mil)
    ropotan (500k)
    stelvio (400k)
    k.agouda (200k)
    joe garner (100k)
    buononatte (200k)
    m.constantin (250k)
    tatarastanu (200k)

    *and various random stats players.. nothing worth noting*

    I had considered getting a few core important players... i.e like hulk.. using my established over 27 age rule to bring in a goal scorer and a AMC, therefore garaunteeing goals and winning games...

    But Id like to try and build from nothing, and bring in non established players and se if I can build my team from ground up.

    With that in mind.. the only over 22 players I brought in was molina as backup keeper until foster returns and warnock

    Filling my 5 english players roster are

    hart (obvious choice for keeper, brilliant)

    marvin elliot (whos stats are ridiculously good)

    warnock (brilliant for price and english)

    david jones (obvious choice for midfield on a free)

    barnes (great at rw, no need for change)
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    dayro moreno looks brilliant and will fill my striker role perfectly i think..

    im playing:

    <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> hart
    elliot fazio vermaelen warnock
    fellaini
    zapater d.jones
    barnes emanuelson
    moreno </pre>

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    haha as i was typing that i realised, i need another striker, one in case moreno doesnt perform after all... so ive bought in mamadou bagayoko for 3 mil.. who looks brilliant

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    Originally posted by theincrediblehulk:
    Zellix

    Really? I just declared interest first and then I put in a bid for 13M + 10% sell on and they came back with 16M straight up. I offered it and thats it!
    They want about 45m on mine

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    i can never get him for less then 30 either

    ive just played my first pre season game against catania

    and on reflection.. i feel im not strong enough in the centre of the park going forward....

    fellaini and zapater are brilliant , but defensive... i have a little cash left over and may try to see who i can get....

    dayro moreno played brilliantly scoring two.. one a powerful header and another a curling shot from the edge of the box.... looks a great player

    fellaini was solid, sweeping up any loose ball and passing it around like a pro

    fazio and vermaelen were solid as i expected them to be

    warnock was getting lots of space on the left so i changed him 20 minutes in for marcelo who could better use the space... proven to be a good move , set up two.

    elliot was solid enough on the right also

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    welshace

    Team looks pretty nice. Warnock was a nice buy. I forgot about him but he would have been good. The only 2 positions that worry me if your team is cover for CB and your RB's.

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    help needed

    i've downloaded the file and extracted it into my Database folder. I loaded up the game and the option to select this database ain't there. Any help would be much appreciated.

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    im quite happy with RB..

    as i have elliot who is brilliant, sabri (turkish international, also great) and omozusi who i know grows into the position well

    I am worried about CB myself.., but i have some cover in the reserves in constantin, grainger, sakho and laso kivuvu who doesnt play there but has great stats for the position and will do fine...






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    Hi, downloaded the database and I really want to give this a try but the rules kinda confuse me. Can someone please clerify the rules?

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    hi frazza... the rules are pretty much clafified on this page.. just a little bit up...

    its simple when you think about them for a bit

    under 22's for less then 7.4 mil only

    apart from english players who can be anything

    need at least 5 english players in main match day squad

    need to buy at least 30 players, and at least 16 in the main squad

    can buy two over 27yr old players costing no more then 10 mil each

    there a few more stipulations but start with them and then look back

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    i meant 7.5 of course

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    Originally posted by Slugger_SpursFan:
    help needed

    i've downloaded the file and extracted it into my Database folder. I loaded up the game and the option to select this database ain't there. Any help would be much appreciated.
    Try renaming the XML file to the same name as the folder. So I think remove the space and replace with an underscore.

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    Slugger_SpursFan

    All the files that you extracted to the database folder, put them in a folder called "London Utd" and then try. So the destination should be:
    My Documents > Sports Interactive> Football Manager 2008 > db > London Utd


    Frazza Pee

    Just check out the rules I've posted on this page itself a little above. They are all bunched together and easier to read. Read through once and let me know what confuses you.


    welshace

    DANG! Elliot looks bloody good on your game. He's about half of that on mine!! Kivuvu looks good though.

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    Ok I understand them now. Thanks.

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    How do you change a players second nationality with FMM? I can only see how to change their first nationality.

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    yeah i was really suprised with elliot myself.. looks premiership class all over...

    solved the cb problem with my old faithful friend leandro gioda who was thankfully not transfered yet... came to me for 2mil

    also had a bid accepted for hilton who's at lens for 4 mil but i dont need him now

    got almost 10 mil left but dont know whether i need to spend it tbh... might look at a striker (ive cancelled the bagayoko deal.. didnt fancy it)

    would love an english striker but none are decent enough for 10mil really.. might bring in someone like fryatt though

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    frazza

    go to relations tab and edit one of their relations to 'other nationality'

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    I see it now.

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    Frazza Pee

    Go to the "relations" area and you can change it there.


    welshace

    How about Derbyshire? He's pretty good and is usually available for around that price. Also, Billy Sharp becomes good. Andy Johnson is also available around that price, maybe a little more.

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    Is there a maximum amount of youth players you are allowed?

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    No. You can get as much youth as you want.

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    Ok thanks.

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    hmm derbyshire isnt a bad idea, not fond of the others though.. il look into him...

    although i imagine my funds are gonna be gone now...

    ive gone for defour with a view for some more attacking flair from midfield

    might leave me short of cash tbh

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    still no luck unfortunately.

    I have created a London Utd folder in my DB folder and i have put the downloaded London Utd file into the London Utd folder that i created and it still hasn't come up. Can't see where i am going wrong.

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    yup, ive got defour... nevermind... get some new strikers in next season , i have enough for now i imagine..

    osvaldo is looking great in pre-season... he'll play a lot of games from subs bench though...

    also i bought in a striker named ricardo jesus (random stats im guessing), who is ripping anderlecht to shreds as we speak...


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    Originally posted by Slugger_SpursFan:
    still no luck unfortunately.

    I have created a London Utd folder in my DB folder and i have put the downloaded London Utd file into the London Utd folder that i created and it still hasn't come up. Can't see where i am going wrong.
    hi slugger... this is how it should look



    ie.. all the files in london utd

    i imagine youve created your london utd folder and then put the downloaded london utd folder into that one,

    just follow the address bar on my pic

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    Originally posted by Slugger_SpursFan:
    still no luck unfortunately.

    I have created a London Utd folder in my DB folder and i have put the downloaded London Utd file into the London Utd folder that i created and it still hasn't come up. Can't see where i am going wrong.
    Go into the folder and rename the xml file the same as the folder. If the folder is London_Utd then name the xml file that, if it's 'London Utd' then name it that (i.e. without an underscore).

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    right... all transfers have been completed, staff and players

    pre season is well underway and we're looking good

    heres my final first team:


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    Your team is looking pretty decent Welshace.

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    i've done everything and it's just not working. Is it possible for someone to upload it as a saved game file so then i can just load the game when i open up FM?

    Thanks

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    Should i sign Nolan for 15 million or Cattermole for around that need another english man, finding it quite hard to sign enough players who can actually kick a ball e.g. Newcastle want 18 mil for taylor hmmm you gotta be kidding me

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    i've done everything and it's just not working. Is it possible for someone to upload it as a saved game file so then i can just load the game when i open up FM?

    Thanks
    Can somebody please do that for him? With my slow connection, it'd take me a while.


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    I'd go for Cattermole over Nolan.

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    Just about to sign Lledson, strikers are hard to sign along with full backs.

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    can anyone load a saved game from the start?

    Thanks

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    So, am I right in saying I can't sign a player between 22 and 27?

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    So, am I right in saying I can't sign a player between 22 and 27?
    between 23 and 27

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    So, am I right in saying I can't sign a player between 22 and 27?
    between 23 and 27
    Unless they are English.

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    So, am I right in saying I can't sign a player between 22 and 27?
    To simplify, you cant sign a player aged 23, 24, 25 or 26. Unless they are English that is.


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    Mate I'll get a save game up for you tomorrow I promise. I cant do it right now because there's a littl problem with my connection. But I'll definitely have it for you tomorrow.

    A couple of things though:
    - I'm not sure if it will work. I was told at the start that I would need to upload the whole database as I've changed things on there.

    - Let me know what leagues you want me to load for you and what size database (small, medium or large).

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    Does Danny Shittu count as English? As he was born and plays for Nigeria but is also English.

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    Cheers mate...i know i sound a pain it's just that i'm eager to try this out.
    Medium database with England (Championship and above), Spain (La Liga first division) and Italy (Serie A)

    Thanks again mate.

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    No, he doesnt mate. Because he's been capped for Nigeria IIRC.

    I'd posted this rule on page 2 regarding English players:

    - a player is English if he has England as his first nationality and is eligible to play for the England National team. If he has second nationality of another country also, he will be counted as English UNLESS he declares himself for that other country.

    - a player is English if he has England as his second nationality AND has also got "declared for England" in his profile.


    Hope that clears it up.


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    Its all good mate. I'll get it up for ya tomorrow.

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    My assembled team so far unfortunately I havent been able to get 30 players together i only have 24 and only 3 mil left but i was wondering if i can assemble 6 more in January and that will count, however i do have 3 late bids in as i speak.

    My team so far.

    GK - Joe Hart
    DR - Andre Bikey, Loic Abenzoar
    Dl - Emanuelson, Marcelo
    DC - Fazio, Lescott, Vermaelen, Sakho
    DM - Albelda, Zapater, Sankhare
    MC - David Jones, Ramsey, Nolan
    AMC/R/L - Wijnaldum, Barnes, Fleck
    ST - Saivet, Farfan, Dentinho, Aquino

    total of 96 million+

    5 English men all in my first team squad.
    However my only worry is i do not have a out and out striker.

    P.S - middlesborough were asking 20 mil+ for Cattermole this only prooves how expensive english players are.

    Havn't decided whos going in my reserve team and U18s but ive got my first game with Chelsea coming up now so let us know what you think

    I was also wondering if i agreed transfers say in Febuary for a player to come at the end of the season does this count as one of the 30 ive got to get in?

    Cheers

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    Firstly, no mate, you need those 30 players before the first transfer window shuts. I'm surprised that you werent able to sign 30 because I managed about 40!

    How much did you pay for those players? I think you might have over-paid for a few of them and thats why you're having problems.

    The players you've bought are mostly all good. But where you made a mistake is not buying players who can cover different positions. For eg, take your CB's. Lescot, Vermaelen and Sakho can all play CB ofcourse. But they can all play LB too. Farfan is best on the left wing and he wasnt needed there because you have Marcelo who's excellent in that position. Instead of Farfan you could have bought a proper striker.

    If you want to make up numbers, you should be able to buy atleast 4/5 youth players for that 4M you have left. You'll only need to pay some compensation. If you get lucky, you can buy the following players for the prices I mention:

    Benoit Costil (700K - good backup GK and becomes quality)
    Sebastien Grax (1M - good ST)
    Lubos Kalouda (350K - would probably have moved though)
    Eduardo (Botafogo - 1.1M)

    So that gives you 4 good players for your first team. But their prices might have increased since you're nearing the end of the transfer window.

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    Sorry for the double post. I wanted to add: dont count too much on the free transfers in season 2. I'll be putting a few restrictions whereby the number of such signings will be controlled!

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    right , just got back in from the mrs' house..

    bored of CS:S so gonna start up my game now...

    im really happy with the team i have and think its gonna be a good season...

    my only concern is a striker... i have plenty of talented young players but no proven goalscorer as such, luckily my tactic rely's a lot on midfield goals also so i should be ok

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    just finished my first game against everton
    and what i see to be a respectable 0-0 draw away from home

    My Starting Line Up

    I've spent 86m on transfers so far
    so still have some cash to improve the rest of my team

    My Transfers

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    My problem with the striker situation was that no English strikers were good enough for cheap enough and the likes of Rocchi and Amauri wouldnt be let go for less than 10 million or else i wouldnt have been bothered with Farfan or Dentinho, one or the other but oh well gotta work with what i got.

    Finished first league gaem lost 1-0 to Chelsea but hteir Centre backs and goalkeeper got 8s so they had to perform to keep me out.

    Just beat Prague in champ league quals 2-1 away so in my opinion so far so good

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    thats a great looking team mate....

    looks a lot stronger than mine tbh... plus , ashton.. great signing mate

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    am i allowed Bojan on loan?

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    "1. I decided to scrap the rule whereby you are forced to buy your loanee player next season if you play him a lot in season 1. It can easily be misused so best to let it rest. And you ARE not allowed to loan in Bojan if desired but again, only as a backup.
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    no

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    I'll post in more detail tomorrow but I'll just give a quick run over of some of the players I've bought and how the time might look. I've missed a few signings unfortunately and it's late so I'll go over it tomorrow. These players are listed in position of "Best case scenario", so if a left winger was out then I might use a winger in that position who can play on the left but is right footed.

    (E) = Englsh
    (S) = Scottish
    GK: Stuart Taylor(E) / Ian Walker(E) & Foster(E)
    DL: Taiwo / Vermaelen(also CB)
    DC: Alex Silva, Felipe, Miranda,
    DR: Mickael Chretien / Marvin Elliot(E)
    DM/MC: Zapater, Digard, Gavin McCann(E), Kevin Nolan(E)
    AM/MC: Riquelme, Defour, Skejbred, Piatti, Mihelic, Wijnadlum, David Jones(E)
    AML: Marcelo/ Barry Robson(S) / Andele Pryor / Lior Rafaelov
    AMR Farfan / Kaloud / Kaebi / Marvin Angulo / Giles Barnes(E)
    FC: Amauri / Diogo / Saivet/ Stancu / Agouda

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    Heres the game save mate. See if it works for you.

    London United Save Game

    You need to unzip the file and put it in My Documents > Sports Interactive > Football Manager 2008 > games folder.

    Would have posted it earlier but the forum was down when I tried earlier.

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    I'm starting again as I think I've made some bad buys.

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    im considering it too..... id like to start again and bring in players to fit a new tactic ive built....

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    Ok, this is the first chance I've got to post since yesterday because the forum has been down.

    I reached the end of the transfer window a while back. I posted all my transfers on Page 2. I've made a couple more signings though. I wont post the youngsters again, but:

    First Team Squad
    GK - Joe Hart (7M) and Ben Foster
    LB - Eduardo (1.1M) and Onyekachi Apam
    RB - Onyekachi Apam (6.75M) and Danny Simpson (5M)
    CB - Miranda (4M) and Habib Bellaid (4.7M)
    CB - Federico Fazio (3M)
    DM - Alberto Zapater (7M) and Francesco Bolzoni (2M)
    CM - Michael Johnson (16M) , Toni Kroos (4.3M) , Steven Defour (3.4M) and David Jones (free)
    LM - Marcelo (5.5M) and Abdou Razack Traore (950K)
    RM - Giles Barnes and Lubos Kalouda (350K)
    ST - Amauri (6.75M) and Tommaso Rocchi (5M)

    The only person I've added is Onyekachi Apam. He can cover all across the back and I was desperate for a little more stability. Done well so far.

    Also, I've signed Sergej Barbarez for 525K as a tutor. He's got great mental stats so thought it'll be worth it. Could be handy coming off the bench too. Already got 1 hat-trick coming off the bench in the second half!

    Anyway, I'm off to a great start imo:

    Premier League
    Top of the league after 5 games with 4 wins and 1 draw. Victories have come against Liverpool (away, 1-0), Wigan (away, 3-0), Bolton (home, 3-0) and Tottenham (home, 5-0). The draw was away to Arsenal 0-0. Should have won that game as well. They have Van Persie sent off after about 50 mins and I went on the attack. But the bloody GK (Almunia) got the MoM. Amauri was injured for that game though so I still thought it was a great result. So I've already played Liverpool and Arsenal away. And I've also got Man Utd and Chelsea away both before the end of October!!

    Champions League
    Got to be the unluckiest guy playing this game in terms of CL opposition! I drew flamin Valencia in the qualifiying round fgs! But managed to beat them 2-0 away and then thrashed them 5:0 at home. Helps when their managed is stupid enough to play Joaquin as a CM! Also helps when they have 2 players sent off!!

    But the bad luck doesnt end there. Then came the turn to decide the groups. I drew Real Madrid, AS Roma and Besiktas ! Chances of getting through look bleak in that group. Will be happy with 1 point from the 2 Madrid games. Roma signed bloody Van Der Vaart. Their attack looks extremely strong too. Am playing them at home first so that's good. If I can get a victory, I'll defend with all I've got when I go their stadium! Hoping to beat Besiktas both times but even thats not a certainity!


    Ah well, lets see how I get on.

    Btw, I've thought up a few things for season 2 rules and I'll post them after a while. They wont be the final ones though. When I do post them, I'd appreciate feedback on them from you lot to see what you think. Cheers.

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    thanks a lot mate thats wonderful.


    will post my team later on.

    Thanks again.

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    Originally posted by briz_lad:
    this look like a really good challenge. i will start this up as soon as my laptop is returned from repairs

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    Right then, transfers.

    First team squad: <UL TYPE=SQUARE>
    <LI>Stuart Taylor-£3m.
    <LI>Federico Fazio-£3.2m.
    <LI>Marvin Elliot-£1m.
    <LI>Eduardo-£2m.
    <LI>Ivan Ramis-£4.2m.
    <LI>Sebastien Squillaci-£9.5m.
    <LI>Ron Vlaar-£5.75m
    <LI>Marcelo-£5.5m
    <LI>Gilberto Silva-£9.75m.
    <LI>Alberto Zapater-£7m.
    <LI>David Jones-Free.
    <LI>Tranquillo Barnetta-£5.25m.
    <LI>Lubos Kalouda-£3.7m
    <LI>Michael Kightly-£4m.
    <LI>Yoann Gouffran-£5m.
    <LI>Jefferson Farfan-£7.25m.
    <LI>Steven Defour-£4m.
    <LI>Per Cijan Skjelbred-£3.9m.
    <LI>Fernando Llorente-£4.8m.[/list]
    Youth/reserve team squad:
    <UL TYPE=SQUARE>
    <LI>Henri Saivet-£450k.
    <LI>Sotiris Ninis-£2.5m.
    <LI>Mamadou Sakho-£400k.
    <LI>Jordan Spence-£400k
    <LI>Chris Pendleton-Free (to fill up numbers)
    <LI>Eugene Sankey-Free (to fill up numbers)
    <LI>Mitchell Murphy-Free (to fill up numbers)
    <LI>Jason Powell-Free (to fill up numbers)
    <LI>Dean Cross-Free (to fill up numbers)
    <LI>Stephen Opoka-Free (to fill up numbers)
    <LI>Damina Reeves-Free (to fill up numbers)
    <LI>Alex Varney-Free (to fill up numbers)[/list]Tutors:
    <UL TYPE=SQUARE>
    <LI>Luigi Di Biagio-Free
    <LI>Magnus Svensson-Free[/list]

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    Forgot to say, total amount spent-£96m.

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    Bit too much I think that. Try to get it down to a maximum of 10M. I got him for 7M flat. But that was because I got him unsettled.


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    You're welcome mate. I take it that the save is working for you?


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    Good to hear mate. Read the rules a couple of times so you're fimilar with them by the time the laptop comes back. There are quite a few of them!

    Oh and btw, to make it easier, read the ones on Page 2. Its a little less cluttered and easier to read.

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    I left Hart and signed Stuart Taylor to fill in untill Foster returns from injury.

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    Ive gotta start again because all my reserves and u18s have been locked into my first team going to try to sign all the same players hopefull for less money

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    Sorry for double post but its happened with all my save games any ideas why??

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    Never seen that before.

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    Team looks good mate. Naughty naughty on getting free players just to fill up numbers! :P


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    I have NO idea why thats happening mate! Try to post it in the bugs section and see if you get any help there? Unfortunate that you have to start all over.

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    Yeah Hulk you got some good prices. You definitely got the best deals out of anyone here, them prices are really good. A lot of the clubs were trying to charge me extra because I was a big rich club. I wanted Crouch but Liverpool wouldn't part for less than around 30m since a potential rival in the league. Really good results you got there, pretty unbelievable tbh. You must have a really good tactic because although your team is good for the restrictions in all fairness your team doesn't really compare at the moment to the likes of Valencia since your players are so young. My players look really undeveloped at the moment . What tactic are you using because I've bought players for the same position so might have to use a different tactic if all goes wrong .

    So far I'm not fancying my chances. I lost 1-0 to Sampdoria in the friendly but because I've just signed all my players and it was late last night I let my AM take that charge so hopefully he messed up. The start of the season looks awful, I haven't even watched my players yet. It goes:
    Liverpool (Away)
    Dinamo Kiev (Away)
    Man City (Away)
    Arsenal (away)
    Dinamo Kiev (Home)
    Tottenham (Away)
    Man Utd (Away)
    Fulham (Home) - God I have to win this
    Chelsea (Away)
    Really couldn't have asked for a worse start. I used the formation at Man City too (was level on points in third place, but had a better team) and it was good but not so much away so I might have problems. A bit worried I might lose to Dinamo Kiev in the qualifying stages tbh.

    I tried to get Veron for MC even though he is 32 because he looks fantastic. I tried a cheeky 3m or so bid but couldn't agree with his club. I couldn't really justify, say 10m or so for a 32 year old but I guess if he played well it would have been worth it. I took a bit of a gamble and signed Riquelme. I remember on PES signing him and being disappointed, I couldn't play with him because he was so slow (although Kaebi was good but I don't think he is that good on FM). Although on FM07 he played very well for me so hopefully he will do the business along side Nolan. I signed Walker as backup for very little so I could bring Thiago Motta in on loan to help shore up the midfield. That price for Barbarez is awesome. I remember looking and they wanted over 2m which made me sad lol . I might look for a few tutors but I only have like 500k left I think. The team is looking something below. Although I might put Kalouda on the right, Farfan left, possibly Marcelo in place of Taiwo...will just have to see. I haven't really thought about that yet since I missed a few signings. Amauri looks good and Diogo will give it a slightly different complexion if he comes on. It'll be nice to effectively switch between Nolan, Zapater, McCann, Motta, Digard, Riquelme and Jones around the midfield, depending on who we play. I could do with some backup wingers though. Elliot looks good backup for right fullback and Vermaelen, Marcelo or Taiwo can hold down left fullback. Although they are wing back positions they mainly defend so need better defensive stats really. I wanted Wes Brown instead of one of the foreign defenders but United wouldn't sell to me. Wanted Downing too but ran out of cash. Overall content with the team and lots of possibilities although no amazing quality really. Gonna be relying on a set few players to get through the season.


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    Mate, thats a bloody good looking squad you have. How the hell did you manage to sign Taye Taiwo though????

    As far as my results are concerned, I dont think its just about the tactic I use mate. I use the same tactic with Arsenal and I destroy teams with it. I posted the tactic on the Arsenal thread and a few people tried it but not with a lot of success. The reason I do well is because whenever I play a game, I watch FULL matches and not just the key areas. That is, unless I've got the match in the bag in which case, I try to cut it short. But the advantage watching the whole thing gives me is that I can see where my team is struggling and more importantly, where the opposition team is struggling. And then I keep adjusting my tactics accordingly. I do a LOT of tinkering in between the game when I play and thats part of the reason why I'm doing well.

    Also, I find that going for fancy formations is usually going to do you more harm than good. Take yours for eg. I'm not saying its a wrong tactic or a bad tactic or anything. But its just too fancy for me. The only fancy tactic I like is Kimz's but its just too easy with that.

    I dont have my players try to exceed their limitations and do things they cant do. My defenders defend and my attackers attack. Its that simple.

    I'll elaborate for you later. I'm off to watch the match just now.

    Just remember one thing though - your full back positions are the MOST important in the game. Its where the game engine tries to exploit you the most. Playing with wing backs can lead you into trouble sometimes. You need very good CB's covering for you in a tactic like yours. Vermaelen and Silva, while good, are not great. You're putting too much pressure on them this way and they'll get found out.

    I know my way works. I've not conceded any goals in 8 games so far. And I usually dont concede too many. Part of the reason why I do well. If you dont concede, you cant lose!

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    3 games into the season and it's all abit iffy.

    Newcastle away 0-2
    Tampere United away 1-1
    Middlesbrough away 2-2

    It's hard to get the team to gel.

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    This is my squad, I haven't found my starting 11 yet so the 11 selected aren't specificly the 11 that will play the next game.

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    just a quick question if i buy 2 foreign players who are over 27 and over am i still allowed to purchase english players who are 27 and over?

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    just a quick question if i buy 2 foreign players who are over 27 and over am i still allowed to purchase english players who are 27 and over?
    Yes, you can. English players can be bought for as much money as you want, they can be given as much salary as you want, they can be as old as you want and they can be as many as you want.

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    hulk cheers mate. just made a list of 85 names i could potentially sign now just looking through them and deciding who my first choices are.

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    Did you download your tactic?

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    Can we buy one player for 10M+?

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    Ah I see. I used to have a lot of success with tactics on FM07 and used to play it a lot more so I made my own rather than tinker someone elses but I haven't put as much time into 08 and it seems more difficult. I had one with Leeds which I'll need to look at, I dropped it after I left Leeds but I won every game in the season using that apart from cups although I turned over 3 premier league clubs in a brave attempt. Really annoyed that save got corrupted but I played again from the start and think I lost 1 game that season, so I might do well to check if I saved the tactics from that. I tried with Kimz but didn't have a lot of success, I'm not really sure if the players I have fit his tactic I'll have to take a look, since I invested in wingers rather than good scoring AMC's. The tactic I'm using is from my last game & the reason I used it was because I was Man City and the tactic worked well there. Was third in the league on goal difference with United top, who, near the end of the season were still unbeaten and had drawn about three games. Pretty insane for a non player club.

    I was happy with Taiwo. I wasn't too sure who to have at LB but their were a few good ones around. He usually leaves on my games for around 5.25m although it's not usually me that signs him I've just heard good comments about him. Thought I'd take a gamble on him and put in a bid of 5.25m all went smoothly. The players I had real problems signing was Miranda, who crazily his price kept going up to 6.5m, Alex Silva at 6.25 and Felipe who went cheap but I was in negotiations for like 2 or 3, possibly 4 weeks. I was holding out for Amauri to come through because I've never signed the lad before so wanted to be sure he'd be interested and ask for a decent wage and research him a bit since he'll be the star striker. I had actually agreed personal terms with Gudjohnson from barca but he's out for two months so probably wouldn't pass the medical (although it gave me the button to complete the transfer) but I thought I'd hold out for a TS (Amauri) and FS (Diogo). Hope I don't regret it but Gudjohnson doesn't look that good on my game, maybe because he's injured. I only have about 400k left to improve.

    So if a game is in the balance you'll watch a full 90 minutes then? Wow I bet that takes forever . I might try it some time. It'll be quite different for me, since I usually sign the absolute best AM I can get regardless of cost and pre-design a formation to fit my players then skip most games. This does sometimes help though because I have the players I like and the AM has the players he likes and sometimes a varied approach helps. Anybody else disagree with the team Bergkamp suggests? Although for once I do agree with my AM on most the players in the team if I'm honest. Doesn't happen a lot.

    A True Fan, I like your team. I actually don't know all the players in there so I'll have to look them up. Nice buy in Yoann Gouffran.

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    Originally posted by PoopyPants:
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    I did indeed. It worked very well at Manchester City so hopefully it'll materialize here. No cheating on there, no restarting (I actually know a lot of people in real life who play FM and I know most of them restart games).

    I got it from here

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    Oh okay, it just looked like mine tis all

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    just downloading the database i like this because its got more rules than just build a team and win everything! will probably start tonight if it downloaded quick enough! looks good will have to have a proper at the rules because i find it hard to follow them when there are loads of transfer rules and i wouldnt want to **** up. anyways will update once its available. your squads look good!

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    No mate. You cant.


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    Yeah, it does take time to come up with your own tactic but its well worth it. I HAVE to watch full games most of the time mate. I dont have a tactic which will win me a lot of games just on its own. Thats why I need to watch full games to see where I need a little tweaking. But trust me, once you get the balance right in the game, you'll suddenly see your team play the most beautiful ever. Its almost like watching a Derby team on their worst day in one instance suddenly transform to Arsenal on their best day. It does take time, but I find it worth it. It takes me a lot longer to complete seasons but I enjoy every single game I play!

    Taiwo - the lad is quality mate. You've taken no chance on him. He's just sheer quality. One of the better LB's on the game. Thing is, I usually see him go for 13-15M so never even bothered doing a scout report on him! Stupid me! Would have been great on my left side even though Eduardo is doing a good job so far.

    Gudjohnsen - dont worry, you did the right thing in not signing him. Not worth it.

    Miranda - yeah, if you dont bid for him quick enough, his price starts going up as he attracts a lot of attention from other teams. Good player though. Doing well for me so far.

    Bergkamp - well, he usually suggests decent teams but he keeps putting bloody Marcelo at LB and I cant have that. Most of the other positions are fine though but the thing is that AM's go on what a players "natural" position is rather than on stats. He keeps putting Eduardo out of the team because he's a "natural" CB (a position where I would probably never play him!). So I dont usually bother much with any of my AM's advise!


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    Good to see you joining in mate. If you need to know something just ask. I'd suggest skipping the rules I posted in my opening post and reading them on Page 2. They are bunched together there and are easier to read through.

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    by signing riquelme you have now convinced me to play the play game
    i love that man. dunno how to mananged to get him though.
    i'll post my progress on here asap

    great idea btw

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    Meanwhile, here are a few exceptions and allowances to make the game a little easier atleast to start off:
    1. Refer rule no.5. The exception is that you CAN sign a player who is only 26 at the time of purchasing. However, he should be 27 before the transfer window closes. For eg, if you buy a 26 year old in the first transfer window, he should turn 27 before or on 31st August. I add this exception because I notice that there are a few players that you can buy who fall under this category. Also, their price might increase if you wait until they hit their 27th birthday.

    can i buy one who is 22 but turns 23 after i buy him? but before the transfer window ends?
    so when hes signed for me he is 22?

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    Originally posted by EricCOYB:
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    by signing riquelme you have now convinced me to play the play game
    i love that man. dunno how to mananged to get him though.
    i'll post my progress on here asap

    great idea btw
    Lol yeah he's awesome in real life imo. He was a huge let down on PES for me and then I wasted like 12M on him on FM07 when Danial Carvalho was just as good...but then again on my FM07 save Carvalho was a complete beast. Fingers crossed he can actually perform well from CM. Mate don't worry about signing him or anyone if you can get a bid accepted. I don't usually play with high rep teams so I was very surprised, but if nobody else wants to sign someone you can offer quite a low wage and people still accept. If you get an offer accepted you can offer quite a bit lower wages than they want but most will accept or at least compromise because they want to join. He'e still on a fair wack though....my highest paid player. About 45k a week I think. I'll look forward to seeing your team .

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    can i buy one who is 22 but turns 23 after i buy him? but before the transfer window ends?
    so when hes signed for me he is 22?
    Yes, he should ideally be 22 years of age when he signs for you. If the final transfer goes through a few days after his 23rd b'day (say a week?), thats cool too tbh.

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    ah thats good then thanks.

    Felipe on his way to London Utd!

    Just wondering how do you change 2nd nationalities on FMM?

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    also did you say we can loan bojan?

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    i wasnt sure either the rule is unclear as it says you are not allowed to loan bojan but only as backup

    which doest make sense
    must be a mistake

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    this looked alot easier than its turned out to be lol! money going down very quickly and im stuck for english players! havent signed any yet, could have some terrible ones in my first team which wont be good! almost done though once i get a few english ones.

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    also did you say we can loan bojan?
    i wasnt sure either the rule is unclear as it says you are not allowed to loan bojan but only as backup

    which doest make sense
    must be a mistake
    You are right mate. It is a mistake. Sorry about that.

    To clarify:

    I decided to scrap the rule whereby you are forced to buy your loanee player next season if you play him a lot in season 1. It can easily be misused so best to let it rest. And you ARE now allowed to loan in Bojan if desired but again, only as a backup.

    Hope that clarifies it. I put "not" instead of "now" before! Silly type-o!

    But do remember that the loanees are not allowed to play unless your other backups are all injured/suspended/unavailable.

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    thats cool still hes the best you could get really.

    there isnt a rule about the english playing in your starting line up is there? just need 5 first team members.

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    thats cool still hes the best you could get really.

    there isnt a rule about the english playing in your starting line up is there? just need 5 first team members.
    Yep, thats right. Although, I really should include a rule to do that. Thanx for bringing it up. I was just working on some of the future rules. Will incorporate it in them somehow!

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    it is one thing that i'm not sure about.. Is no transfer limit and age limit for english players? If so i can by like Owen for 20M?

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    right i just typed everything out then clicked reply again and lost everything so im not putting the prices because took too long lol!

    if you ask i will put them in.

    but overall i spent every penny!

    GK - Logan Bailly, Preston Edwards
    DR - Mickael Chretien, Cristian Ansaldi, Ryan Taylor
    DL - Marcelo, Urby Emanuelson
    DC - Felipe, Federico Fazio, Habib Bellaid, Mamadou Sakho, Didier Digard, Alan Stubbs, Jordan Spence.
    MR - Giles Barnes, Gabriel Torje, Axel Witsel Yoann Gouffran.
    ML - Sylvain Marveaux, Helder Barbosa.
    MC - Pablo Piatti, Thiago Neves, Toni Kroos, Ivan Rakitic, Per Ciljan Skjelbred, Younousse Sankhare, Pierre Ducasse, Alberto Zapater.
    FC - Salvador Cabanas, Andre-Pierre Gignac, Billy Sharp, Victor Moses, Henri Saivet, Bojan.

    Youth.
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    Georginio Wijnaldum
    Andre Ayew
    Mame Biram Diouf
    John Fleck
    Aquino
    John Bostock
    Vincent Acapandie.
    Joris Delle

    will prob use most of those youth at some point and will need to cut the first team down alot i guess but at the moment i havent decided really who i want to play.

    First Game!!

    London Utd vs Man Utd

    GK - Logan Bailly - Age 21
    DR - Michael Chretien - 23 (July 10th)
    DL - Marcelo - 19
    DC - Federico Fazio - 20
    DC - Felipe - 23 (July 31st)
    MR - Alex Witsel - 18
    ML - Sylvain Marveaux - 21
    MC - Toni Kroos - 17
    MC - Alberto Zapater - 22
    FC - Andre-Pierre Gignac - 22
    FC - Salvador Cabanas - 27

    Lets see how this goes then

    hope everything is okay and legal with my squad?

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    Originally posted by Spector:
    it is one thing that i'm not sure about.. Is no transfer limit and age limit for english players? If so i can by like Owen for 20M?
    yeah i think thats fine mate.

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    okay man utd won 3-0 but they cheated... and why you might ask...

    because Darren Fletcher scored and that is cheating the bloke is useless!!

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    oh i forgot about sidnei just arrived and alex Teixeira, Henri Lansbury coming in Jan and Martin Galvan coming in 2010 usual.

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