Murrayzoster's Old Firm Take Them To The Top Of The World Challenge (FM 08)

**Murrayzoster** · 21-12-2007 17:20

The Background

Rangers and celtic have today completed there transfer to the english league. The only problem is they have to start at the lowest league possible. There bank balances have been wiped and will not compete in the champiopns league. There youth and training are set to 1 and have no youth academy. There reputation is 1000. The plus side is that staff and players will remain. How long will it take you to rise to the top?

The Aim

To take rangers or celtic from the Blue Square N/S to Premier League and Champions League glory.

The Rules

Load a game with the English and Scottish leagues only, with the Blue Square N/S selected, a large database (or smaller if preferred) and the attribute masking and the transfer boxes ticked. No additional players from any nation should be loaded. It should look like this.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/987/leaguesvz5.jpg

Add a new manager, the options are up to you but 'past experience' must be set to the lowest possible.
You Can Choose Any Nationality You Want.

It is now up to you to manage this club all the way to the Premier League title and UEFA Champions League crown.

If you are sacked you must then wait to the end of the season to retake over the club. You must then again start with the lowest past experiance.

Can You Complete The Challenge?

(This is based on the dafuge challenge)

http://rapidshare.com/files/78214228...lenge.rar.html

**Murrayzoster** · 22-12-2007 04:39

Anyone Interested In This Challenge

**Murrayzoster** · 22-12-2007 05:45

No one interested then?

**macca69** · 22-12-2007 06:43

I think its a good idea, will take up the challenge when i get bored of my current game, are you playing it yourself?

**Murrayzoster** · 22-12-2007 08:14

Yeah I Do

But am currently involved in a game which i just put the old firm in the championship

**dj clark boy** · 23-12-2007 10:50

i i fancey the challenge startd downloading it should bbe interresting

**butts** · 23-12-2007 11:56

Will probably do this later just want to finish my season on pro evo then will download will probably start later or tomorrow morning.

**Murrayzoster** · 23-12-2007 14:57

You also have to post your manager profile at the start and give reguarly updates. You may not use fmm or any sort of save game editor or scout program

**butts** · 24-12-2007 03:23

Gonna download this now. It will be sort of a second game to my dafuges challenge so might take me a while to get through seasons but shouldnt take too long.

**butts** · 24-12-2007 04:32

Profile

**Murrayzoster** · 24-12-2007 17:20

Anyone Else Interested?

**Ridleys** · 26-12-2007 07:22

ill have a go with celtic..

**Ridleys** · 26-12-2007 08:05

Profile - Season 1 - Celtic - Conference North

**Ridleys** · 26-12-2007 08:11

One Above Doesnt Work Lol

**Murrayzoster** · 27-12-2007 14:47

Any1 Else Willing To Take The Challenge?

I Dare You Too lol

**divwatretrfc** · 31-12-2007 11:44

I Will Take It :P
The Only Problem is trying to keep the players at your team and have a big enough squad as you have no youth teams :O

**Murrayzoster** · 16-01-2008 04:31

Anyone Else Willing To Take The Challenge.

Anyone That Is Taking The Challenge How Are You Getting On?

**Peacemaker7** · 16-01-2008 04:39

Originally posted by Murrayzoster:
No one interested then?

Did it ages ago, it's hardly original.

**Murrayzoster** · 16-01-2008 08:38

Well I Dont See Any Topics For It So It Is Kinda Original

**Peacemaker7** · 16-01-2008 11:08

Originally posted by Murrayzoster:
Well I Dont See Any Topics For It So It Is Kinda Original

No, it isn't.

**Murrayzoster** · 16-01-2008 12:13

Of Course It Is

**Terk** · 16-01-2008 13:50

No, it isn't. I believe it was PM7 himself who did this a while back on FMS. And stop using a capital letter at the beginning of each word. It's even more annoying than text speak.

**Murrayzoster** · 16-01-2008 14:54

But you can read my writing but you cant read text speak so how does that work.....i tried to come up with a challenge that i havent seen a topic for so how was i meant to know it has already been done?

**Terk** · 17-01-2008 16:03

The Old Firm are two hugely supported clubs, surely common sense would say that pretty much anything that can be done with them has been at some point.

And I find capital letters at the start of each word more annoying than text speak. That's how that works.

**Murrayzoster** · 18-01-2008 06:05

Obvisley a know that. I am a Rangers Fan.

A cant be bothered arguing because a know am right

**dafuge** · 18-01-2008 09:48

Originally posted by Terk:
The Old Firm are two hugely supported clubs, surely common sense would say that pretty much anything that can be done with them has been at some point.

I could understand the annoyance if someone had gone into your forum and started a thread that was blatantly purposefully ripping off someone else's idea that was clearly visible, but people in here are probably oblivious to what happened in FM Stories years ago. I know I am.

**Murrayzoster** · 18-01-2008 14:55

Originally posted by Murrayzoster:
Obvisley a know that. I am a Rangers Fan.

A cant be bothered arguing because a know am right

Rigth i know i am not right but all i was trying to do was create a challenge which people might be interested in.

**dafuge** · 18-01-2008 16:19

Originally posted by Murrayzoster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Murrayzoster:
Obvisley a know that. I am a Rangers Fan.

A cant be bothered arguing because a know am right

Rigth i know i am not right but all i was trying to do was create a challenge which people might be interested in. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

To be honest, if they are criticising you on your use of the English language you are not doing yourself any favours by arguing back.

**Murrayzoster** · 19-01-2008 05:42

And how is that?

**Ter** · 19-01-2008 19:19

Who cares if it's been done before. It can be done again.

Murrayzoster - It might encourage more people to take part and post updates if you do so yourself

**Murrayzoster** · 20-01-2008 07:59

Thanks ter you have givin me alot more confidence

I have decided to take the challenge myself to see how i get on.

Are you intertesed in taking the challenge?

**Murrayzoster** · 20-01-2008 09:17

Will be posting a profile shortly.

Also there will be an updated database for this challenge uploaded

**Murrayzoster** · 20-01-2008 10:00

http://rapidshare.com/files/85228482...lenge.rar.html

New database

Only thing is Rangers and Celtic have to compete in the scottish cup

but oh well

**Murrayzoster** · 20-01-2008 11:08

My Profile

**Murrayzoster** · 25-01-2008 15:44

Current News: 18 Games Play 18 Won

**dafuge** · 25-01-2008 15:50

What is it like, do all the players want to leave?

**McNeil** · 25-01-2008 17:59

im interested mate, but doing Gundos ATM, so once i complete im going to try but make it a bit harder by REMOVING all current OF players, this way my side will be similar to the other conference N/S sides and make the challenge that bit harder! this ok?

**Murrayzoster** · 26-01-2008 04:02

Yeah ok i will make amendments to the databse tonight

.....Thanks for the advice

**Murrayzoster** · 26-01-2008 04:05

Originally posted by dafuge:
What is it like, do all the players want to leave?

No but they say they are willing to leave to help the club clear debts.

I have had to sell Ferguson and Hemdani for 75k each just to keep me aflot which i wasnt very happy about

Celticfan383 · 29-01-2008 09:51

I will try this with the new signings (and sellings) are done, if you update it, of course!

Koki Mizuno -> Celtic
Geogios Samaras -> Celtic (loan)
Ben Hutchinson -> Celtic (pre-contract - summer 2008)
Teddy Bjarnason - Celtic -> Lyn Oslo

Hope that helps, Mizuno has the number 29 too, supposedly.

**Murrayzoster** · 29-01-2008 09:56

Yes I'll be posting a new database once the the new january one is out

**Murrayzoster** · 03-02-2008 04:04

Does anyone know when the new patch is out?

**dafuge** · 03-02-2008 04:07

Originally posted by Murrayzoster:
Does anyone know when the new patch is out?

There is no date set.

**Murrayzoster** · 03-02-2008 12:13

Ok thanks dafuge

**Murrayzoster** · 15-02-2008 02:32

The new database is now ready.

Here's the link.

http://rapidshare.com/files/92001688...lenge.rar.html

**Murrayzoster** · 22-02-2008 07:43

Anyone Interested?

**Frankie 7** · 23-02-2008 09:16

Originally posted by Murrayzoster:
The new database is now ready.

Here's the link.

http://rapidshare.com/files/92001688...lenge.rar.html

Any chance of making one with the new updated patch for 8.0.2?

**Murrayzoster** · 23-02-2008 09:21

Will Do

**Frankie 7** · 23-02-2008 09:27

In the Editor, What is the name of the lowest English League that can be played in FM08?

**Ryan Smith** · 23-02-2008 15:22

Can someone tell me how to install this please

**Murrayzoster** · 24-02-2008 11:52

Frankie7 - Blue South North/South

Ryan Smith - Just Put The File In C:\Documents and Settings\Your Username\My Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2008\db

**poolman321** · 01-03-2008 16:36

Are many people doing this challenge.Seems like quite a good one to me.
has anyone started to climb the leagues

**BlueAndWhiteArmy_91** · 09-04-2008 15:15

I mad a db for myself in FM07 with Gers and celtic in League Two.

Unfortunately, when my computers hard drive was unexpectedly wiped, I lost both the savegame and the screenshots. I didn't do that well to be honest, all my best players left after a a year or two.

**robmontie1965** · 14-04-2008 09:33

Hi murrayzoster.

i am a blue nose and would to take up this challenge, but I am not a member of rapidshare, dont suppose you could upload to file font or some other free file hosting.

Many Thanks

Alternatively I may change my database to match.

Originally posted by Murrayzoster:
The new database is now ready.

Here's the link.

http://rapidshare.com/files/92001688...lenge.rar.html

**robmontie1965** · 14-04-2008 10:01

Hi Murray

I am giving it a go as Rangers manager to make it a little harder I have reduced both Celtic and rangers attendance to 10,000 this will avoid lots of money coming in. Any idea how to get out of debt, if the original staff and players stay for at least a season the club will be in so much debt due to their wages bill.http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/3...managerst5.jpg

**robmontie1965** · 14-04-2008 10:06

gersmanagerst5

The link did not display correctly will try again.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4...managerej7.jpg

**poolman321** · 15-04-2008 09:36

Reducing the attendance makes it harder,but does it not take away from the realism?If Celtic and rangers did ever go into england, their attendances would not just suddenly drop to 10,000.Can you imagine the scramble for tickets when Celtic can sell out every math???

**poolman321** · 18-04-2008 09:04

Are there any problems that arise when playing the database e.g. with expectations?
And are the youth and reserve teams now working?
Thanks

**onthetrain** · 13-06-2008 08:09

i fancy giving this a shot and have downloaded the rar file. Where do I put the data files please?

**PaulHartman71** · 13-06-2008 08:14

you should put the files in the 'db' section which can be found in your 'My Documents' 'Sports Interactive' Folder.

Although, hasn't this been dead for 2 months?

**onthetrain** · 14-06-2008 01:35

thanks PH. I realise the challenge is probably dead, but I'd like to have a go for my own interest.
I'm sick of winning in my current game

**PaulHartman71** · 14-06-2008 01:43

i'm sure if you keep posting your updates and how your doing in the game, then the challenge might attract new people.

**onthetrain** · 21-06-2008 09:59

This has been kind of interesting, but very frustrating at the same time.

The realism is taken out of it for me by the fact that suddenly Ibrox only holds 1000 and has no youth academy or reserve league.

I managed to hold on to a few players, but the chairman sold most of the squad for silly money. I set myself on a good footing by actively selling most of my good players for realistic money in the first transfer window.

season 1 - won BSN by 12 points from Celtic scoring 223 goals and conceding 12!!! Alaso won FA Vase and setanta shield.

Season 2 - won BSP by a distance scoring 132 conceding 34.

Season 3 - I'm now really struggling to sign any decent players despite having a transfer fund of 5M+ I'm top of the league by a couple of points, but am really struggling away from home. I cant even get any half decent players to sign at the end of their contracts from the likes of Bournemouth. I'm shipping goals for fun and even defenders like Ryan Garry are truning down contract offers of 7.5K per week when their current deals are ony for Â£400.

It's the lack of training & youth facilities that are killing the game.

These issues have ruined it a little for me. Dont mind the concept of starting in lowest leagues by why on earth would the old firm lose their support & facilities if they transfered to england!!

**Murrayzoster** · 10-05-2009 23:08

This thread may aswell be closed due to no-one posting for near enough a year

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