Football Manager Wiki

[pnefc22]

I have accidently removed the stub from the 'Physios' page, while adding more.

I will add the physio guide tomorrow or on sunday.

Could someone please re-add it?

Thanks.

PS - How do you add the stub tags?

[ahmufcwafc]

{{Stub}}

Put that at the start of the artcle.

[arsenal_2111]

Rob, what would Y stand for? I didn't fill that one in.

[ssestig]

Nationality I think. Also done pages for Steve Schumacher, Joel Grant, James Bailey,Byron Moore, Kenny Lunt, Danny Shelley (although very brief), Eugen Bopp, Danny O'Donnell, Michael O'Connor, Anthony Elding (his club stats table took a long time) and Calvin Zola. Time for a rest me thinks.

[ahmufcwafc]

Nationality I think. Also done pages for Steve Schumacher, Joel Grant, James Bailey,Byron Moore, Kenny Lunt, Danny Shelley (although very brief), Eugen Bopp, Danny O'Donnell, Michael O'Connor, Anthony Elding (his club stats table took a long time) and Calvin Zola. Time for a rest me thinks.

Good job stig, you deserve a break

I'm making a page on how to make your game run faster now.

[pnefc22]

Rob, what would Y stand for? I didn't fill that one in.

Sorry.

It stands for nationality.

I forgot to write that in.

I will add more to that soon.

It needs a complete guide as at the moment, you know how to type it out but there is no way that you could get it to work by doing that.

[ahmufcwafc]

Pages on installing graphics & making the game run faster have been added. Let me know if I left anything out.

[Spleen!]

I've just come across this thread now, good work everyone

I could help out with some articles when I have time, anything specific that you want doing, or shall I just dive in?

[arsenal_2111]

I've just come across this thread now, good work everyone

I could help out with some articles when I have time, anything specific that you want doing, or shall I just dive in?

Alan made a list a while ago of pages that need developing. If you know anything about any of the following then edit as you like.

You will have to register first though, non members arent allowed to member thanks to spammers.

Welcome to the thread

Club Guides
*Not too serious, just missing introductions for most
Fulham
Getafe
Hull City
Inverness Caledonian Thistle
LA Galaxy
Luton Town
Man City
New England Revolution
New York Red Bulls
PSV
Panathinaikos
Preston North End
Real Madrid
Redditch
Southampton
Stockport
Stoke City
Valencia

Nation Guides
Canada
Holland
Mexico
Russia

Player Profiles
Anatoli Todorov
Landon Donovan

Gameplay
Bosman Transfers
Training Facilities
Physios

Graphics & Skinning
Graphics Packs
Skins

Editing
Database Editor
How to add your own regen

Miscellaneous
Championship Manager
Sports Interactive

Empty Pages
Chicago Fire
Chivas USA
Colorado Rapids
Columbus Crew
DC United
FC Dallas
Houston Dynamo
Kansas City Wizards
San Jose Earthquakes
Toronto FC
Dani Aquino
Coaches

[Spleen!]

Just added to the Real Madrid page, is this the sort of thing we're looking for in an introduction? http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk...le=Real_Madrid

[ahmufcwafc]

Just added to the Real Madrid page, is this the sort of thing we're looking for in an introduction? http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk...le=Real_Madrid

Yes it is, good job. I've removed the stub tag

Welcome aboard, you should have a PM in a minute or two.

[ahmufcwafc]

Just as a reminder to everyone - don't forget to remove the stub tag whenever you feel enough information has been added to a particular page.

[Spleen!]

Yes it is, good job. I've removed the stub tag

Welcome aboard, you should have a PM in a minute or two.

Panathinaikos and PSV done as well, in a similar way. Should I remove the stub tags for any I do?

[arsenal_2111]

Panathinaikos and PSV done as well, in a similar way. Should I remove the stub tags for any I do?

Yep, if they are done enough then the stub tags should be deleted

[ahmufcwafc]

Panathinaikos and PSV done as well, in a similar way. Should I remove the stub tags for any I do?

Delete the stub tags from any pages you feel don't deserve them any more

[BenArsenal]

Just managed to stumble upon this.

I've made an Singapore League thread for the Good Player forum. I hope it's suitable.

The S-League Thread

[ahmufcwafc]

Just managed to stumble upon this.

I've made an Singapore League thread for the Good Player forum. I hope it's suitable.

The S-League Thread

Cheers BenArsenal. Do you want to add it yourself or will I put it up? Of course you'll be given credit for it either way

[BenArsenal]

Cheers BenArsenal. Do you want to add it yourself or will I put it up? Of course you'll be given credit for it either way

You can put it up for me. Thanks.

[ahmufcwafc]

You can put it up for me. Thanks.

I will. Do you mind if I take information from your guide and mix it with the info we've already been given from FM-Britain? They've given us a good bit of information, but yours goes a bit more in-depth.

[BenArsenal]

I will. Do you mind if I take information from your guide and mix it with the info we've already been given from FM-Britain? They've given us a good bit of information, but yours goes a bit more in-depth.

That is fine I suppose, but I spot a couple of inaccuracies in his.

[ahmufcwafc]

That is fine I suppose, but I spot a couple of inaccuracies in his.

Oh, well could you point out a few then please? Sorry, I have no knowledge of the Singapore league whatsoever

[ahmufcwafc]

If you want your Singapore guide on a separate page, I've no problem with that either.

[BenArsenal]

Not a problem.

I presume his dates back a couple of years ago, because there have been some changes since then.

Liaoning Guangyuan is no more, of course.

There is no relegation from the S-League, unlike what he said.

And the Singapore Cup lasts all season long, instead of from April to June. The last one (2008) started in May and the final was in November.

Teams are now allowed to register 6 foreign players, but name only 4 in the match squad.

I should also add in a couple of things not in my original thread, but will be useful in the Wiki. These are fairly recent additions by the way.

Charity Shield
As you'd have guess, a pre-season curtain raiser between the League and Cup winners (or League runners-up if the double was achieved).

Singapore League Cup
A mid-season tournament played between all 12 League Clubs, usually lasting a month (May-June). The top 4 in the league the previous season gets a bye into the second round, while the rest play a one-off knockout first round. After that the format is similar to the Singapore Cup (two-legged knockout rounds) until the one-off final match. There is also a third place playoff (also present in the Singapore Cup).

Hope that has been helpful.

[ahmufcwafc]

Cheers Ben. Are you happy with the layout of the article now?

[ahmufcwafc]

Instead of having empty pages cramp up the current category pages, how about we open a category for blank pages? Obviously we would re-categorise them again as soon as they have some content.

Maybe a notice on blank pages should be put up in the 'Why we have set this up' bit.

[BenArsenal]

That is pretty excellent , although (sorry, being picky here) the opening seems to contradict a little with the first paragraph of the S-League.

I would probably put the opening as such:

The S-League was formed in 1996, as Singapore's very own football league. Prior to this, football in Singapore consisted of the national team competing in the Malaysian Cup. After winning the trophy in 1994, a decision was made to withdraw from the tournament, which came as a shock to Singaporeans, ending a 75-year association with the tournament.

However, the S-League has moved leaps and bounds since then, and has become one of the top 10 leagues in Asia, according to the AFC (Asian Football Confederation). From 8 teams in 1996, it has since expanded to 12 teams, and has also attracted some foreign clubs to establish feeder teams in the league to increase its competitiveness.

The FA of Singapore have taken the unusual step of including a team of their own in the competition, Young Lions being made up of the vast majority of the nation's under-23 international side, although foreigners who are eligible to become Singaporean nationals are also allowed

The 12 teams all offer varying challenges, but it is a very promising league, and to be fair, with the right moves, anyone is capable of anything.


Then the start of the topic S-League would be "The S-League is made up of twelve clubs....etc"

Other than that, it's mostly good.

[ahmufcwafc]

That is pretty excellent , although (sorry, being picky here) the opening seems to contradict a little with the first paragraph of the S-League.

I would probably put the opening as such:

The S-League was formed in 1996, as Singapore's very own football league. Prior to this, football in Singapore consisted of the national team competing in the Malaysian Cup. After winning the trophy in 1994, a decision was made to withdraw from the tournament, which came as a shock to Singaporeans, ending a 75-year association with the tournament.

However, the S-League has moved leaps and bounds since then, and has become one of the top 10 leagues in Asia, according to the AFC (Asian Football Confederation). From 8 teams in 1996, it has since expanded to 12 teams, and has also attracted some foreign clubs to establish feeder teams in the league to increase its competitiveness.

The FA of Singapore have taken the unusual step of including a team of their own in the competition, Young Lions being made up of the vast majority of the nation's under-23 international side, although foreigners who are eligible to become Singaporean nationals are also allowed

The 12 teams all offer varying challenges, but it is a very promising league, and to be fair, with the right moves, anyone is capable of anything.


Then the start of the topic S-League would be "The S-League is made up of twelve clubs....etc"

Other than that, it's mostly good.

It's a good thing you're being picky, because ultimately it'll improve the quality of the page.

I will add that now

[BenArsenal]

It's a good thing you're being picky, because ultimately it'll improve the quality of the page.

I will add that now in a while. Have to go now

Hee.

Cheerios. Always glad to help out.

[ahmufcwafc]

Wait, do you mean the bit above the index or the bit under the S-League header?

[BenArsenal]

Wait, do you mean the bit above the index or the bit under the S-League header?

Oh, I've seen what you done there.

Yeah, sorry, should have been more clear. By 'opening' I meant above the index.

"The S-League is made up of twelve clubs...etc" starts under the S-League header.

Sorry.

[ahmufcwafc]

Oh, I've seen what you done there.

Yeah, sorry, should have been more clear. By 'opening' I meant above the index.

"The S-League is made up of twelve clubs...etc" starts under the S-League header.

Sorry.

Great - fixed now. Thanks again

[BenArsenal]

Great - fixed now. Thanks again

Erm, not quite.

Under the S-League header, the first two paragraphs can be omitted.

[ahmufcwafc]

Erm, not quite.

Under the S-League header, the first two paragraphs can be omitted.

Ah right, sorted now (I think ).

[BenArsenal]

Yes.

Phew.

[ahmufcwafc]

About time too

[pnefc22]

I think that it is a good idea but where would we put a link to this category, as I don't think that it should go on the top row.

Because people using the wiki are not going to click on a category of blank pages.

I sugeest placing it at the bottom of the first page and as long, as we know where it is then it will be alright as we can then, use it.

Every article IMO should be placed in one of these kind on holding places till one of us sees it and approves it (sees it as an appropriate good standard) and, then we could move it to the correct area. It would probably improve the standard of the articles.

[ahmufcwafc]

I think that it is a good idea but where would we put a link to this category, as I don't think that it should go on the top row.

Because people using the wiki are not going to click on a category of blank pages.

I sugeest placing it at the bottom of the first page and as long, as we know where it is then it will be alright as we can then, use it.

Every article IMO should be placed in one of these kind on holding places till one of us sees it and approves it (sees it as an appropriate good standard) and, then we could move it to the correct area. It would probably improve the standard of the articles.

I agree with pretty much all of this

[ahmufcwafc]

The wiki forum has been deleted, with all threads lost due to the software being upgraded at boardzero. I'm in the process of making a new one, and will yet you know once it's done.

[pnefc22]

Ok, that is bad news,

They could have at least warned us, so we could have got all the threads off it.

[pnefc22]

I agree with pretty much all of this

Ok, but we will have to wait to see what everyone else thinks about this before we go ahead with this.

Plus, where are we going to have the links to these categorys?

[ahmufcwafc]

Ok, but we will have to wait to see what everyone else thinks about this before we go ahead with this.

Plus, where are we going to have the links to these categorys?

I'm not sure. Maybe we should have them hidden until the pages are ready to be properly categorised?

[pnefc22]

You know that you deleted the part saying 'For Vista:'.

That is kind of necessary because I am going to do an XP one as they are different.

[pnefc22]

The forum is back up.

It is working for me.

I have sent you a link in a PM.

[Vincewine]

ill see what i can do, its a good idea and will be useful

[ahmufcwafc]

You know that you deleted the part saying 'For Vista:'.

That is kind of necessary because I am going to do an XP one as they are different.

I thought it was exactly the same. Go on then, put it back up. I don't like the idea of putting up a 'coming soon' notice, just leave that out. I think it looks tidier that way

ill see what i can do, its a good idea and will be useful

Cheers Vincewine, I'll PM you now.

[arsenal_2111]

The (old) forum is working for me

[ahmufcwafc]

The (old) forum is working for me

The forum is back up.

It is working for me.

I have sent you a link in a PM.

As said, it's back up now

[arsenal_2111]

As said, it's back up now

Mehh, just because I'm a bit slow

[peter-evo]

Incase anyone starts missing me (hopeful thinking), I am off to Devon for 5 days and am leaving in 29 minutes. I will try and find some hotspots so I can post a bit. See you all

[arsenal_2111]

Incase anyone starts missing me (hopeful thinking), I am off to Devon for 5 days and am leaving in 29 minutes. I will try and find some hotspots so I can post a bit. See you all

Yeah, miss you. Likely

Have fun

[ahmufcwafc]

Incase anyone starts missing me (hopeful thinking), I am off to Devon for 5 days and am leaving in 29 minutes. I will try and find some hotspots so I can post a bit. See you all

Does that mean I can be our official representative and chief executive of advertising while you're gone?

Good luck.

[pnefc22]

Well, he has gone now.

So, Alan you can take the role for 5 days

[ahmufcwafc]

Well, he has gone now.

So, Alan you can take the role for 5 days

Awesome

Think I'll work on a definitive guide on using the editor for the next few days. I'll probably post it up in the editors hideaway as well because I feel it's being neglected a bit on that part.

[pnefc22]

I am going to be working on the stadiums article page and the stadiums articles over the next few days.

I have just done a few more stadium articles and will finish all the Championship articles tonight and then, put them up.

[pnefc22]

Alan (or anyone else), can you help me with something?

I can't change the layout of the Stadiums page

It only has one line with the title and the link to the General stadiums page when I click on 'edit'.

I want to try something different with it as we are getting quite a lot of stadium articles and it is starting to look messy.

Plus, when creating a new article, I realized that we have two categorys for Stadiums - named 'Stadia(linked from the front page) and one called 'Stadiums' (have to do something different to get to)

Any help would be appreciated.

[ahmufcwafc]

Alan (or anyone else), can you help me with something?

I can't change the layout of the Stadiums page

It only has one line with the title and the link to the General stadiums page when I click on 'edit'.

I want to try something different with it as we are getting quite a lot of stadium articles and it is starting to look messy.

Plus, when creating a new article, I realized that we have two categorys for Stadiums - named 'Stadia(linked from the front page) and one called 'Stadiums' (have to do something different to get to)

Any help would be appreciated.

Are you trying to get rid of the stadiums being sorted in alphabetical order? I don't think that's possible to change while keeping it a category, although JJay might be able to change that.

[pnefc22]

I guess we could have it without it being a category if JJay can't do anything.

As then, we could just link them off the Stadiums page.

[ahmufcwafc]

Make a new page called 'Stadia', add the links and I'll sort the rest out

[pnefc22]

Ok cheers.

I think that it will be a lot neater like that, than a long list of stadiums.

I have added about 5 more stadiums.

EDIT: I can't make a new page called 'Stadia' because there is already the stadia page which talks about stadiums. Should I call it 'Stadiums' instead?

[pnefc22]

I have gone ahead and called it Stadiums instead.

I have done a couple of the links so far.

Will finish them off tomorrow.

[ahmufcwafc]

Rob - I must say that I really like the lines you put in to divide players from different positions. KUTGW

All blank pages have been moved to a new category.

[tottenhamfmo7]

Great websites!

[arsenal_2111]

You got an example of the lines to seperate players?

And Alan, 5000 posts

EDIT: Thanks tottenhamfm07

[ahmufcwafc]

You got an example of the lines to seperate players?

And Alan, 5000 posts

EDIT: Thanks tottenhamfm07

Fulham page is an example.

Never noticed I hit 5,000 there tbh

Cheers tottenhamfmo7

[arsenal_2111]

Fulham page is an example.

Never noticed I hit 5,000 there tbh

Cheers tottenhamfmo7

Yeah, they look good. I bet he didn't do them on purpose though

[ahmufcwafc]

I have gone ahead and called it Stadiums instead.

I have done a couple of the links so far.

Will finish them off tomorrow.

I've fixed it. It can be called stadia now, with the old stadia article being re-named general stadium information. Makes a bit more sense I think

[arsenal_2111]

Did any of you know how the World Cup Group Stages are ordered?

If two or more teams end up with the same number of points, tiebreakers are used: first is goal difference, then total goals scored, then head-to-head results, and finally drawing of lots (i.e. determining team positions at random).

France just finished higher than Tunisia because of this, seems really unfair.

[ahmufcwafc]

Is that just in FM or real life as well?

[arsenal_2111]

Is that just in FM or real life as well?

Thats in real life, from Wikipedia. I don't know how this is implemented in FM tbh.

[ahmufcwafc]

Oh right, are you talking about France and Tunisia in the 2002 World Cup then?

[arsenal_2111]

Oh right, are you talking about France and Tunisia in the 2002 World Cup then?

No, my FM game.

Both won 1, drew 1, lost 1, scored 4, conceded 4, have 0 GD and they drew their game 1-1.

Yet France finished higher. Seems unfair...

[BenArsenal]

Didn't UEFA plan a penalty shootout in the group stages in Euro 2008 when that was going to happen? Perhaps FIFA should do as well.

[pnefc22]

I've fixed it. It can be called stadia now, with the old stadia article being re-named general stadium information. Makes a bit more sense I think

Yes, that does make more sense.

Have we got a re-direct from 'Stadiums' to 'Stadia'?

[ahmufcwafc]

Yes, that does make more sense.

Have we got a re-direct from 'Stadiums' to 'Stadia'?

We do now

[Spleen!]

I'm going to try and do some stuff today

There's one thing I've noticed when browsing the site though. Under 'Nation Guides', some of them are articles about the nation, as you'd expect, e.g. their good players, honours etc. However, others are about the league system in the country. I think these should go under 'League Guides' instead. Would make more sense I think, as some articles in this section currently are like this anyway, but others just include the teams in the league.

For what it's worth, in my opinion the nation guides should contain information about the national team, then maybe a list of the leagues in the nation, linking them to the league guides pages.

Opinions? If you understand what I've just written

[hamilton162]

Hi lads

Just to let you know that the FC United page will be up by the end of Easter and i am drafting it now

[ahmufcwafc]

I'm going to try and do some stuff today

There's one thing I've noticed when browsing the site though. Under 'Nation Guides', some of them are articles about the nation, as you'd expect, e.g. their good players, honours etc. However, others are about the league system in the country. I think these should go under 'League Guides' instead. Would make more sense I think, as some articles in this section currently are like this anyway, but others just include the teams in the league.

For what it's worth, in my opinion the nation guides should contain information about the national team, then maybe a list of the leagues in the nation, linking them to the league guides pages.

Opinions? If you understand what I've just written

Yes, that's my mistake. I've already fixed half the problem by putting those guides in the league guides page, I just haven't got around to taking them out of the nation category.

[Spleen!]

Club Guides
*Not too serious, just missing introductions for most
Fulham
Getafe
Hull City
Inverness Caledonian Thistle
LA Galaxy
Luton Town
Man City
New England Revolution
New York Red Bulls
PSV
Panathinaikos
Preston North End
Real Madrid
Redditch
Southampton
Stockport
Stoke City
Valencia

Of these, most are done now with an introduction. The only ones left are: the New England, New York and Redditch pages are blank, and Preston doesn't have much on it.

[ahmufcwafc]

Of these, most are done now with an introduction. The only ones left are: the New England, New York and Redditch pages are blank, and Preston doesn't have much on it.

Great, I'll update the list later

The nation category issue is almost fixed, will finish it off later tonight.

[Spleen!]

Great, I'll update the list later

The nation category issue is almost fixed, will finish it off later tonight.

Good stuff.

Under league guides, there's a page for United States and one for MLS, they're pretty much the same thing looking at them, the MLS one is in more detail though.

[ahmufcwafc]

Good stuff.

Under league guides, there's a page for United States and one for MLS, they're pretty much the same thing looking at them, the MLS one is in more detail though.

I know, I'm afraid to delete the United States one yet though in case I spot a few things missing in one of the articles. Again, should be fixed later tonight as well.

[Spleen!]

I know, I'm afraid to delete the United States one yet though in case I spot a few things missing in one of the articles. Again, should be fixed later tonight as well.

I'm going to try and get a page for Middlesbrough done if I have time tonight, and fill in any other gaps of Premier League clubs possibly.

[ssestig]

Does anyone think that we should have a section for retired players who are favoured personal/icons/legends?

[ahmufcwafc]

Does anyone think that we should have a section for retired players who are favoured personal/icons/legends?

Wouldn't they fit into the non-player category nicely?

[ssestig]

I suppose they would now I think about it.

[ahmufcwafc]

I suppose they would now I think about it.

By all means create a new category if you think it'd look better though

[ssestig]

Keep it as it is unless more people want it changing for now.

[pnefc22]

I think that they could merit their own category in the future but for the moment, they should be put in either the player or non-player category's.

I also think that instead of doing non-players(retired ones) we should focus on doing players in the game first.

But, if you would like, go ahead and do non-players.

I'm going to watch a match tonight so, I will be out but keep up the good work

[peter-evo]

Fantastic work lads.

Alan: You can keep your spot until Friday

[ssestig]

Done pags for both da Silva twins, Theo Walcott, Carlos Vela, Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri.

[arsenal_2111]

Personally I think that player profile pages should have information about them in FM, best position, tactical advice etc. Good pages though. I categorised Rafael for you because you forgot

[ssestig]

They will do and they would all be in the right category but i'm half asleep

[Spleen!]

I did the Middlesbrough page last night. Probably needs a little more adding, like recommended formation, signings etc. but the rest of the page is there.

[ssestig]

Done pages for Gabriel Zakuani, Danny Murphy, Brian Murphy and Ian Bennett.
They're all in the right place too

[arsenal_2111]

I've categorised the Son page, it is now a stub and under gameplay. If anyone thinks there is a more sutiable category for it just change it

[BenArsenal]

Oh, I meant to ask.

Would you guys like a logo for the S-League article? I'm not sure how you guys go about getting these things, but I suppose the S-League website would be helpful.

www.sleague.com.

[ahmufcwafc]

Oh, I meant to ask.

Would you guys like a logo for the S-League article? I'm not sure how you guys go about getting these things, but I suppose the S-League website would be helpful.

www.sleague.com.

That website is loading at a painfully slow speed for me. Any chance of a direct link to an image?

[BenArsenal]

That website is loading at a painfully slow speed for me. Any chance of a direct link to an image?

Damn. I forgot to mention they use a lot of Flash, and so would slow down computers.

Flash also means I can't link to the image directly.

Try this perhaps:
S-League

[ahmufcwafc]

Is this the proper logo?

[BenArsenal]

Is this the proper logo?

Yeah. Save for the Yeo's and Great Eastern bit, which are actually sponsors' logos.

Do you guys need permission or anything to use such logos?