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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Dean View Post
    Thanks for the reply, i didn't "delete" seans work pre-se i merely reworded it so it was easier to read, changing his possible players to sell into a bullleted list i thought helped alot, By the way do you know what happened to Sean? His account isn't registered on Si forums anymore. The Enrique part he stated was based on his accounts from FM08 and may not apply to FM09. actical Advice i feel shouldn't be given unless its for a very good reason, i don't see why Sean reccomended fast pasted direct attacking as that would be reliant on the players you may buy or sell, FM tactics are very complicated and if the user takes in the advice from the wiki and it doesn't work it could leave him feeling very frustrated .

    Yeah, sean10 is NUFCSean who's computer wouldnt let him log on so he got that account and then had it deleted when he got his problem fixed.

    Where did he say that that is based on FM08? I can't see it.

    That was base advice, people won't just do that. There is nothing wrong with giving some advice, wether you agree with it or not.

    And, regarding Enrique again, I agree that he isn't good enough from his technical stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnefc22 View Post
    I added some info on the youth intake page at the bottom, and gave a link to the youth development page, where I will give my theories on youth development.

    That is all I can do today, because of coursework etc.

    I will pop in and out of the website and the forums for the next few days and do as much as i can.

    Where is peterevo and some of the other contributers?

    It has been a bit quite recently.
    Well I can't speak for the others, but I won't be able to contribute as much as I was able to last week because of schoolwork piling up on me again. I fell back a lot last term so now I have a load of work to do. So don't expect me to be doing much with the wiki from now until easter.

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    I've got school work too, so I won't be able to contribute as much atm. There isn't much more to do for me, except a fewmore team profiles.

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    I am here. I have not been doing much for the wiki and I shall start doing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter-evo View Post
    I am here. I have not been doing much for the wiki and I shall start doing more.
    I am here as well but I still am doing exams.

    I will try and do a bit and will do more when my exams are over.

    I was reading the discussion between Orion Dean and Arsenal. This is an example of what could happen though. One person makes edits in good faith trying to improve the article so there is certainly nothing wrong with that. Another person could have a different opinion on a player for example which again is fair. If the two people are stubborn enough it could lead to edit wars and stuff. You can't really dismiss either person as they are both entitled to have their opinions and they both are trying to improve the article so what should we do in this case if that ever happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jod123 View Post
    I was reading the discussion between Orion Dean and Arsenal. This is an example of what could happen though. One person makes edits in good faith trying to improve the article so there is certainly nothing wrong with that. Another person could have a different opinion on a player for example which again is fair. If the two people are stubborn enough it could lead to edit wars and stuff. You can't really dismiss either person as they are both entitled to have their opinions and they both are trying to improve the article so what should we do in this case if that ever happened?
    I have no idea tbh, maybe put two bullet points with differing views? Like on some TV shows/magazines etc, they do 'He said, I say' or something like that.

    He said that Enrique is bad and should be replaced
    I say that he can be good despite some stats lacking and does not need replacing.

    That sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter-evo View Post
    I am here. I have not been doing much for the wiki and I shall start doing more.
    I knew that I would find you somewhere soon and it turned out to be in the FML forum

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    FML is fantastic, taking up all of my time at the moment. I have had a lot of school catch-up recently due to having a lot of time off due to heart problem so that is why I have been quiet tonight.

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    Agreed, FML is great. Rob - you should join me in LeTissier. Best GW by far

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    I might do

    I will decide when I get it.

    Just thought that I would get this back on the 1st page, and tell people that if they have spare time, that they don't have to think up of a new article as there are lots of articles on the site that can be added to or even started as some just have the name, so if any reads this then feel free to do something and your work will be much appreciated.

    This isn't a message to some of the regulars such as ahmufcwafc, peterevo and jod123 but to anyone dropping in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnefc22 View Post
    I might do

    I will decide when I get it.

    Just thought that I would get this back on the 1st page, and tell people that if they have spare time, that they don't have to think up of a new article as there are lots of articles on the site that can be added to or even started as some just have the name, so if any reads this then feel free to do something and your work will be much appreciated.

    This isn't a message to some of the regulars such as ahmufcwafc, peterevo and jod123 but to anyone dropping in.
    I would hope so!

    Anyway, I think it's a good idea. Go ahead if the others agree to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    I would hope so!

    Anyway, I think it's a good idea. Go ahead if the others agree to it
    I think it is a good idea aswell

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    I would hope so!

    Anyway, I think it's a good idea. Go ahead if the others agree to it
    The more people that we have contributing the better.

    I was studying today and am watching the match soon so sorry to say that both of those take priority for me.

    Having said that I still have made the most edits today which is 1.

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    Yeah studying for me takes the priority today.

    And, then it's the football with pancakes

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    Just noticed an article on Steve Collis. I don't have any problem with the guy, but surely we aren't going to have articles about individual players?

    We can't recreate the player database in Wiki form!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooty_jim View Post
    Just noticed an article on Steve Collis. I don't have any problem with the guy, but surely we aren't going to have articles about individual players?

    We can't recreate the player database in Wiki form!
    If people want to create articles on players that is fine imo.

    I don't think we are going to have every club with an article on the wiki either or every nation possibly but all we can do is do as many as possible.

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    I've added something to the youth devolment page on football manager wiki and the Hull team guide
    Last edited by Joe The Tiger; 25-02-2009 at 18:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooty_jim View Post
    Just noticed an article on Steve Collis. I don't have any problem with the guy, but surely we aren't going to have articles about individual players?

    We can't recreate the player database in Wiki form!
    I was going to do the Crewe players/favoured personnel at least and any that are relevant to my games.

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    Alright, fair enough. I guess the main thing then is to make sure that everything is categorised properly - basically what I mean is that if we have an article on Ji-Park Sung which suggests that he isn't good enough for the squad and should be sold, then it should be specifically under Football Manager 2009 headings, else the article would need to be updated every single year. Having said that, it might just be easier to leave that kind of information out and keep it factual.

    Something else: I've added a Template:Main and used it in the Football Manager 2009 article (under the fake players controversy heading) to link to the Fake Players article, but I wanted to make the template allow for piped links, ie use the link Fake Players#Football_Manager_2009, but show the link as just Fake Players. However, I can't figure it out, so I've left it as is. If anyone understands wiki syntax better than me and can fix it, please do

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    I've been quite busy the last few days so will try and be a bit more active in this again now. Although there's not much i can think of to do at the moment

    I've also just updated the intro on the homepage a bit as it changed between the active and passive voice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooty_jim View Post
    Something else: I've added a Template:Main and used it in the Football Manager 2009 article (under the fake players controversy heading) to link to the Fake Players article, but I wanted to make the template allow for piped links, ie use the link Fake Players#Football_Manager_2009, but show the link as just Fake Players. However, I can't figure it out, so I've left it as is. If anyone understands wiki syntax better than me and can fix it, please do
    [[Main Page|different text]] then hopefully the latter part should display

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    The 'Patch' page is updated for 9.3.0, although I am sure others will want to add more into it.

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    Finished my coursework today, so its full speed ahead from now on.

    Will look around and add odd bits tonight.

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    Anyone got any ideas for articles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnefc22 View Post
    Anyone got any ideas for articles?
    Don't have a clue, we've covered an awful lot already

    I might write up a few later on tonight if I can be bothered to.

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    Do more League 2 articles, help is much needed as i am revising for 7 exams which are next week.

    Cheers in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamilton162 View Post
    Do more League 2 articles, help is much needed as i am revising for 7 exams which are next week.

    Cheers in advance
    I know absolutely nothing about League 2, so you can count me out

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    There are alot of pages which have nothing on, when you look at them and I guess we can just add something to them and I will think up more articles and just leave them as names and people will have something to do.

    This was on the third page! I was shocked

    It looks better on the first page and attracts more people. Plus, we are nowhere near to finishing though, as a wiki is never finished

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamilton162 View Post
    Do more League 2 articles, help is much needed as i am revising for 7 exams which are next week.

    Cheers in advance
    I know most about the Championship, Premiership.

    I know some about the lower english leagues and some about the foreign leagues.

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    What was on the third page Rob?

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    I've added a page about FM handheld

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    Thanks, I will have a look at it.

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    Looks good, will probably need developing but it's a good start. Well done

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    Thanks.

    Yeah, it was only a start on the topic mostly from the stuff that I already knew about it. Feel free to chop and change.

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    I think a page of Football Manager 'slang' and abbreviations should be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyMysterio View Post
    I think a page of Football Manager 'slang' and abbreviations should be made.
    There isn't much though, or is there?

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    Could still be a helpful guide imo, for some people. Billy, would you want to make it? If so, feel free. If not then I am happy to make it for you.

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    I will make one if you want.

    I will start it now and let everyone add to it.

    What shall it be called?

    Football Manager 'Slang' and Abbrieviations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnefc22 View Post
    I will make one if you want.

    I will start it now and let everyone add to it.

    What shall it be called?

    Football Manager 'Slang' and Abbrieviations?
    Sounds good to me. Go ahead, but is there really that much FM slang that I'm completely unaware of using?

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    Maybe you could incorporate 'famous FM sayings' into that somewhere?

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    Make sure you spell Abbreviations right tho

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    Good work on the wiki lads Is there anything else you need me to do pressing at present?

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    I don't think so, JJay, as the work has slowed down on it a bit for various good reasons recently but I'm sure it will pick up soon, and then, we will need you

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    I just got permission from a member to use any of his posts or threads from the GPTG forum, so I will be using them to add some stuff tonight.

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    I'll be doing some work on this tonight as well. I had thought of a load of useful stuff to put in yesterday evening, but I've forgotten most of it. What a fool I am

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    And, that is why when I think up something I go on the wiki and put it down as an article and then, do the work on it later.

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    I'll help out as well. I've already updated the list of teams in the Coca Cola Championship and I'll create a page for Doncaster Rovers too tommorow

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    Ok good to have you helping.

    Updated the list of teams in the Championship?

    I thought that it was a complete list anyway.

    Which were missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnefc22 View Post
    Ok good to have you helping.

    Updated the list of teams in the Championship?

    I thought that it was a complete list anyway.

    Which were missing?
    A lot because they were only Preston and Watford in it

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    Ok, I checked and you're right, there were a lot missing.

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    I have just written two more articles which I will post up later.

    Extra

    I have just started a sign-up and thought that some if the peopl doing this should be in it as a reward

    So, here it is My Sign-Up

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    I've been doing some more team pages tonight, can anyone remember how to do a redirection? IO thought it was #REDIRECT [Page name] but apparently not...

    Never mind, done now. Meant to have two [[ on each side...

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    #REDIRECT [[Page name]]

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    ooo just noticed my Braintree Town team guide is on there, lurvely

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    I noticed that the Tottenham team needs updating.

    Also under "Regen Editing - How to add your own regen" there is nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kees04 View Post
    I noticed that the Tottenham team needs updating.

    Also under "Regen Editing - How to add your own regen" there is nothing.
    There are a lot of articles that are unfinished.

    The Regen Editing article is mine but I am still working on getting it to work on 09, so I will only post it up when I have got it working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kees04 View Post
    I noticed that the Tottenham team needs updating.

    Also under "Regen Editing - How to add your own regen" there is nothing.
    Yeah, there are a few articles like that. I think jod123 was going to do them, but he's got lost again.

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    BTW, I have got permission to use the LA Galaxy article so, I will add that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnefc22 View Post
    BTW, I have got permission to use the LA Galaxy article so, I will add that.
    Ok rob, I added a picture for the LA Galaxy article if you don't mind.

    And Landon Donovan will be coming back to MLS in the next few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    Yeah, there are a few articles like that. I think jod123 was going to do them, but he's got lost again.
    I'm not lost.

    I moved and now am back home for the weekend. I could not come on here as I had no internet connection. I even had no TV until Thursday night.

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    Oh, I see. Better take down my location now then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    Oh, I see. Better take down my location now then...
    I didn't notice that. At what stage did you add that?

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    A few days ago. Can't remember exactly when.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rancer890 View Post
    Ok rob, I added a picture for the LA Galaxy article if you don't mind.

    And Landon Donovan will be coming back to MLS in the next few days.
    No problem!

    Add as many pictures as you like.

    There were some good pictures in the thread.

    I put {Add picture} on a few threads which I want pictures adding on.

    I would add them myself but am unsure as how to go about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnefc22 View Post
    No problem!

    Add as many pictures as you like.

    There were some good pictures in the thread.

    I put {Add picture} on a few threads which I want pictures adding on.

    I would add them myself but am unsure as how to go about this.
    All you do is upload the picture by using the upload file link on the left.

    When you have it uploaded just put the name of the picutre you uploaded it as in the article like this [[name of image]].

    You can also change the size, alignment and other things like that by putting those in like this [[name|size|alignment]]

    An example from the wiki is [[Image:MajorLeagueSoccer.png|200px|right]]

    On the left there is a link to help and if you go there you will find a guide on editing on the wiki which includes all this. It is very helpful and easy enough to understand.

    Hope that helps.

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    It's really hard getting the images in the place you want them to be. I definately wouldn't recommend trying it, it does my head in

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    It's really hard getting the images in the place you want them to be. I definately wouldn't recommend trying it, it does my head in
    It is not difficult at all.

    Just align them by putting in the alignment you want as I said above. You can also change the vertical alignment the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jod123 View Post
    It is not difficult at all.

    Just align them by putting in the alignment you want as I said above. You can also change the vertical alignment the same way.
    I know you can align them to a particular side. The main thing bothering me is that there's no way to resize the image you uploaded to have it the exact size you wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnefc22 View Post
    No problem!

    Add as many pictures as you like.

    There were some good pictures in the thread.

    I put {Add picture} on a few threads which I want pictures adding on.

    I would add them myself but am unsure as how to go about this.
    Just put a screenshot of the finances and the like from the start of the game I suppose... (January 2008)

    Oh, and I edited a few things like links in that page. And Steve Cronin was part of a group of players waived recently to get under the roster limit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    I know you can align them to a particular side. The main thing bothering me is that there's no way to resize the image you uploaded to have it the exact size you wanted.
    Yes there is. Just specify the size like above. [[image_name|size]]

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    Okay cheers jod. I'm just an idiot when it comes to wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    Okay cheers jod. I'm just an idiot when it comes to wikipedia
    No problem

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    But what do you put in for size? Is it like "180 x 160", something along those lines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    But what do you put in for size? Is it like "180 x 160", something along those lines?
    No you just put in something like this [[image|200px]]

    200px is the size

    100px will obviously give you half the size and that 200px will give you and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jod123 View Post
    No you just put in something like this [[image|200px]]

    200px is the size

    100px will obviously give you half the size and that 200px will give you and so on.
    Ah right, I understand now. Cheers jod.

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    I may add some pictures to articles, now then.

    Or at least attempt to

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    I am sure you will be able.

    If you have any trouble just post in here and I am sure I or someone else will be able to help.

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    I'm sure I will be fine, as I'm good at this kind of thing, normally.

    I'm quite technologically minded

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    Since I've pretty much neglected the site for the best part of three weeks, I think I'll make or add to a few articles tonight. Can anyone suggest any articles to add to?

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    Maybe add some player articles...

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    Someone is on their final warning on the wiki for posting links to things we don't want to see.

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    Is it the same person jod? Can I have a link to the article being spammed?

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    Who is it?

    I will do some more player articles soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    Is it the same person jod? Can I have a link to the article being spammed?
    I was incredibly lenient with him/her as well and they are more people spamming it as well with different ips so I warned all them as well even though they could be the same person.

    It is the discussion page of the main page. I have reverted it back though.

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    The one that posted links to the attack sites?

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    I guess this is the problem with it being a wiki and the fact that anyone can edit it.

    If it persist more, what are we going to do?

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    I think he should be banned for a week, or would that be a bit harsh?

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    The what sites? Someone posted links to some sites on that page and the text was pornography related.

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    He spammed the discussion page again. I'm sick of it now, he's been banned for a week.

    It said it was a attack site on my computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    I think he should be banned for a week, or would that be a bit harsh?
    It is just an ip so that is not a good idea as you should not ban them for that length of time. I'll block him/her for now if they do it again though.

    Don't ban him for a week as that ip could be shared by anyone else.

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    I've posted up a warning on the discussion page

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    People like that really need to get a life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    I've posted up a warning on the discussion page
    I see it but is that a good idea? People might be wary of editing the page at all now so if they have a legitimate request they may be cautious and not asking incase they fell they are misinterpreted. I think we should just warn the people doing it. There must have been 20 different ips that I warned and they will each get a message. Personally I think that is enough. We have a feature to protect the page if we need to as well to stop unregistered users from editing or stop everyone from editing except admins.

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    Fair enough. The page has been spammed again, so I've blocked it for unregistered users. I think it's best for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    Fair enough. The page has been spammed again, so I've blocked it for unregistered users. I think it's best for now.
    Yeah I was going to ask you what level of protection you used. That is the best way.

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    You just need to register to edit it.

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    Those last 2 ips are from different countries so it could be 2 different people.

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    TBF, it's incredibly naive if you believe that. It's fairly easy to change IPs. He even posted the same URLs

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    Quote Originally Posted by jod123 View Post
    Those last 2 ips are from different countries so it could be 2 different people.
    Can't one use a proxy method to get around this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    TBF, it's incredibly naive if you believe that. It's fairly easy to change IPs. He even posted the same URLs
    Quote Originally Posted by peter-evo View Post
    Can't one use a proxy method to get around this?
    I meant I looked up the ips and they are from 2 different countries. I know you can easily change them though but it is still not guaranteed. Just because he posted the same links means nothing though as all he had to do was copy and paste from a previous version which anyone can and would do.

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