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    Does that mean I have to fix up the rest of it for you myself?

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    Nah, i'll try and take a look at it! I'm kinda creating a player profile for Michael Potts atm, 3 articles done in a day it should be, definately a personal record

    What do you want me to try and fix? Do you want it re-worded so it doesn't look like blantant copy and pasting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamilton162 View Post
    Nah, i'll try and take a look at it! I'm kinda creating a player profile for Michael Potts atm, 3 articles done in a day it should be, definately a personal record

    What do you want me to try and fix? Do you want it re-worded so it doesn't look like blantant copy and pasting?
    It needs rewording so that it makes sense as an article. At the moment, it says things like 'in this thread' and 'Each season I will add a new player to the reports', and contains several Is.

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    Pretty much how he should play on the game, recommended level at start of game and when he hits his peak, and buy/sell values Tom.
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    Cheers, will have a look in a second. I'm just about to post up the Michael Potts player profile that i've been working on

    I've edited it now, if anyone wants to point out any changes, feel free to do so and i'll correct them
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    Don't forget the [[Category:Player Profiles]] and your disclaimer at the bottom but apart from that it looks good.

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    whoops, forgot about that! Thanks stig, i'll edit right away And thanks

    I see you've already done it, cheers

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    The categorizing is the most important bit, no one will see the page if you forget to do it

    I've submitted our fansite description for it to appear on the new FM10 site so it should be up shortly. Needs to be approved first though.

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    It's ok, stig did it for me

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    I know that, just saying

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    You all should be able to upload screenshots again - can someone check for me to be sure?

    Old screenshots that were re-uploaded to photobucket

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    Yes we can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    The categorizing is the most important bit, no one will see the page if you forget to do it

    I've submitted our fansite description for it to appear on the new FM10 site so it should be up shortly. Needs to be approved first though.
    Didn't you do that about a week ago?

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    I did, forgot to mention it in this thread though... I think.

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    I'm currently working my way through the league guides and updating the teams for the 2009-10 season. Quick question: why, under the national competitions category, do 'Barclays PL' and 'CC Championship' come under E? I guess because they may have been called English PL, English Championship in the past, or because of the nation they are from, but it makes it inconsistent. e.g. the Blue Square leagues are under B. Surely an article called 'Barclays Premier League' should be categorised automatically under B?

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    Looks like a bug with the software. The page in question used to be called "England - Championship". When it was moved, its place on the categories page was not updated. I'll fix it for you now.

    EDIT: Didn't work, no idea how to fix it now.
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    Strange. It's not a massive problem, but it would be nice if we could get them in the right order somehow.

    All the league pages have been updated with this season's teams, except MLS (leaving that to rancer, plus we don't know how many teams will be in it in FM10), the South African premier league (will do this later) and the Indonesian Super League (can't actually find a team list for this season, so it can wait for the moment).

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    Excellent, great job JS

    One question on the League Two page though - some of the teams on that page have blank descriptions (mainly the teams that have their own pages). Think we should add descriptions for those teams as well?

    I tried deleting the pages and making them again but it didn't work.

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    The blank descriptions are for teams that weren't in League 2 last year. Whoever created the League 2 page added in descriptions for all the teams, I just removed the teams no longer there and added in the new teams. Descriptions probably should be added for them, I can't really do it as I don't follow the league at all. Not sure who created it in the first place either.

    Hmm, I'd have thought that would work, but obviously not.

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    Most of the teams that had no descriptions already had pages anyway, so I just copied them onto the League Two page. Torquay are the only team without a description now.

    I'll see if I can add anything to some of the competition/club guides now, haven't done much on them at all since the site was made.
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    I'll probably look to expand some of them, as a few don't have much on them, like league rules from FM. Any I originally created should have that on already, like the French leagues, but some others will need them adding. Hopefully I'll have time to add in articles on some of the other bigger leagues soon

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    Could someone living in England click on this link and tell me what the price for FM10 is there?

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    The pre-order price is £29.99, down from £39.99.

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    Thanks, will add that to the FM10 page now.

    What happened to our thread in the fansites forum? Looks like it's been deleted...
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    I did a bit of proof-reading for FMW when it launched, and I've just popped around for another little look, see how everything's going - will probably do some more proof-reading later on.

    However, I've just been looking at the tips to make FM run faster, and I'm really not all that convinced. It's a perfectly good idea to have a topic about it, but recommending a registry cleaner? A lot of forums based around helping people to fix computers wouldn't recommend a registry cleaner, and I'm not sure it's really the place for FMW to start dabbling in it. Fair enough with the obvious things like defrag, but encouraging people to start messing around with msconfig and registry cleaners for the sake of FM just seems like a bad idea to me, even if you stick a disclaimer on there to say it's not your fault when Windows won't load, it just seems a little excessive in my eyes.

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    I've never had any problems with registry cleaners myself, so would you mind telling me what sort of complications they may cause? Is it more to do with novice users deleting things that they have no clue about or something else? Either way, it could go because it doesn't have all that much influence on system performance.

    And I assume the issue you have with msconfig is that people that aren't very 'in the know' would just go ahead and have no processes run on startup. What would you think if we were to put these two tips under some kind of 'for advanced users only' header? Then again, 'advanced' users would probably know about that anyway so it'd be pointless - might as well delete them altogether I suppose. Are there any other changes you'd like to see be made to this page?

    Also - does increasing FM's priority actually improve performance? From my experience it just slows it down (presumably because FM may need other programs running in the background in order for it to run). Forgot to mention that earlier.

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    Is there like an FAQ section on the wiki Alan ? If so, could you link me please

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    Quote Originally Posted by saulty2805 View Post
    Is there like an FAQ section on the wiki Alan ? If so, could you link me please
    Is it help editing the wiki - adding tables, infoboxes - that sort of things? If that's it, clicky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    Is it help editing the wiki - adding tables, infoboxes - that sort of things? If that's it, clicky.
    No, I mean like FAQ's within the forum, which people may look to find on the wiki, e.g. Patches, Screenshots etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooty_jim View Post
    I did a bit of proof-reading for FMW when it launched, and I've just popped around for another little look, see how everything's going - will probably do some more proof-reading later on.

    However, I've just been looking at the tips to make FM run faster, and I'm really not all that convinced. It's a perfectly good idea to have a topic about it, but recommending a registry cleaner? A lot of forums based around helping people to fix computers wouldn't recommend a registry cleaner, and I'm not sure it's really the place for FMW to start dabbling in it. Fair enough with the obvious things like defrag, but encouraging people to start messing around with msconfig and registry cleaners for the sake of FM just seems like a bad idea to me, even if you stick a disclaimer on there to say it's not your fault when Windows won't load, it just seems a little excessive in my eyes.
    well msconfig is fairly easy to use, i haven't read the article but deselected IE, iTunes, MSN messager etc to not start up with windows is good for the speed of your computer anyways. As long as you only deselect programs you know and nothing with system beside its all well and good.

    but i understand where your coming from but alot of the msconfig is fairly easy if you take care and act on the side of caustion in areas you don't know much about, just like with anything to do with pcs or laptops

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    Not really, all the patch links are given in the infobox at the top of the game release pages, FM10 screenshots are kept on a separate page in the FM10 section. If you can't find something you're looking for, let me know and I'll link you to it. I could try a links thread in the forum, but I'm not all that sure how it'd work.

    In response to Saulty ofc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    Not really, all the patch links are given in the infobox at the top of the game release pages, FM10 screenshots are kept on a separate page in the FM10 section. If you can't find something you're looking for, let me know and I'll link you to it. I could try a links thread in the forum, but I'm not all that sure how it'd work.

    In response to Saulty ofc.
    Ahh right, just wondered if there was a page for all the people that pop up every now and again asking how to post a screenie or where the patch is, etc.

    I know it's not to in demand, but I'll do the Walsall page at a later date

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    Quote Originally Posted by saulty2805 View Post
    Ahh right, just wondered if there was a page for all the people that pop up every now and again asking how to post a screenie or where the patch is, etc.

    I know it's not to in demand, but I'll do the Walsall page at a later date
    http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk...id41/#post_182

    There is one now

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    What on earth is that linking too ?

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    The new FAQs thread, just for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    The new FAQs thread, just for you.
    Oh right, guess I had to log in first

    I didn't want one, just thought it might be beneficial to have a section for the "n00bs"

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    Well we already have a help section, guess you have to sign in to see it. The thread dedicated to you is staying though

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    Well we already have a help section, guess you have to sign in to see it. The thread dedicated to you is staying though
    Thanks a lot Alan

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    I've never had any problems with registry cleaners myself, so would you mind telling me what sort of complications they may cause? Is it more to do with novice users deleting things that they have no clue about or something else? Either way, it could go because it doesn't have all that much influence on system performance.

    And I assume the issue you have with msconfig is that people that aren't very 'in the know' would just go ahead and have no processes run on startup. What would you think if we were to put these two tips under some kind of 'for advanced users only' header? Then again, 'advanced' users would probably know about that anyway so it'd be pointless - might as well delete them altogether I suppose. Are there any other changes you'd like to see be made to this page?

    Also - does increasing FM's priority actually improve performance? From my experience it just slows it down (presumably because FM may need other programs running in the background in order for it to run). Forgot to mention that earlier.
    The big issue with registry cleaners, as far as I'm aware, is that you have to trust their "AI" which decides which registry entries are necessary and which are unnecessary. Seeing as AI is what is behind FM managers' decisions to sign 4 DMs in the same transfer window, a lot of people don't have that much faith in it . I'm not getting involved in the whole registry cleaners for-and-against debate, I've seen discussions about them getting very heated on PC care forums - I just think that when it's such a contentious issue, an FM wiki is really not the place for it.

    Regarding the msconfig software, yes that's pretty much my concern. Okay, it's a useful tool, but it's not the ideal thing to use - it's all too easy for somebody to follow that guide, and start disabling services through the msconfig window, which firstly is a bad way to do it, and secondly is an excellent way to stop a PC from running.

    Finally, on the "priority" issue, I think that's an absolutely insane tip to use. If you open up task manager, and check the task manager's process priority, it shows as high. The guide wants FM to be set to high as well, which then means that if FM crashes and starts chewing up CPU cycles, you launch task manager to close it, and they both start fighting over the processor. There might be some credit to setting FM to abovenormal (between normal and high), but if FM is having to work that hard to get CPU cycles then perhaps the user should be closing the program that's trying to use them - in that situation, no doubt other parts of the PC would be struggling to keep up.

    Quote Originally Posted by leedsfan88 View Post
    well msconfig is fairly easy to use, i haven't read the article but deselected IE, iTunes, MSN messager etc to not start up with windows is good for the speed of your computer anyways. As long as you only deselect programs you know and nothing with system beside its all well and good.

    but i understand where your coming from but alot of the msconfig is fairly easy if you take care and act on the side of caustion in areas you don't know much about, just like with anything to do with pcs or laptops
    Exactly - I just know from experience that PC experts are very careful when they start spreading tips around the place in case people wreck their machines, and I imagine that the last thing anybody wants is for someone to say that they used the msconfig guide, then their PC wouldn't start and PC World charged them £70 to fix it, so guess who they think is liable. The legal aspect is irrelevant, it's just not worth the hassle.

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    My gut reaction is that it's an FM Wiki, so it certainly should contain FM speed boost techniques, but not system wide ones. Things like deleting startup videos, changing preferences, or using a smaller database are all fair game, but I would highly recommend removing the system speed boost advice, spare the obvious stuff like making sure you have adequate RAM, spare HD space (these link to the game's minimum requirements) and defrag (since a defrag tool is built directly into windows) - as for the rest of the more complicated stuff, just providing a link to a suitable free internet resource with some good advice on how to speed up your computer should do the trick. At least then the onus is on somebody else to decide what is good advice and what isn't - with a wiki it's all too easy to add a weird and possibly damaging tweak to the list, when you've got nothing to lose if it causes problems.

    Hope that makes sense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snooty_jim View Post
    The big issue with registry cleaners, as far as I'm aware, is that you have to trust their "AI" which decides which registry entries are necessary and which are unnecessary. Seeing as AI is what is behind FM managers' decisions to sign 4 DMs in the same transfer window, a lot of people don't have that much faith in it . I'm not getting involved in the whole registry cleaners for-and-against debate, I've seen discussions about them getting very heated on PC care forums - I just think that when it's such a contentious issue, an FM wiki is really not the place for it.

    Regarding the msconfig software, yes that's pretty much my concern. Okay, it's a useful tool, but it's not the ideal thing to use - it's all too easy for somebody to follow that guide, and start disabling services through the msconfig window, which firstly is a bad way to do it, and secondly is an excellent way to stop a PC from running.

    Finally, on the "priority" issue, I think that's an absolutely insane tip to use. If you open up task manager, and check the task manager's process priority, it shows as high. The guide wants FM to be set to high as well, which then means that if FM crashes and starts chewing up CPU cycles, you launch task manager to close it, and they both start fighting over the processor. There might be some credit to setting FM to abovenormal (between normal and high), but if FM is having to work that hard to get CPU cycles then perhaps the user should be closing the program that's trying to use them - in that situation, no doubt other parts of the PC would be struggling to keep up.



    Exactly - I just know from experience that PC experts are very careful when they start spreading tips around the place in case people wreck their machines, and I imagine that the last thing anybody wants is for someone to say that they used the msconfig guide, then their PC wouldn't start and PC World charged them £70 to fix it, so guess who they think is liable. The legal aspect is irrelevant, it's just not worth the hassle.

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    My gut reaction is that it's an FM Wiki, so it certainly should contain FM speed boost techniques, but not system wide ones. Things like deleting startup videos, changing preferences, or using a smaller database are all fair game, but I would highly recommend removing the system speed boost advice, spare the obvious stuff like making sure you have adequate RAM, spare HD space (these link to the game's minimum requirements) and defrag (since a defrag tool is built directly into windows) - as for the rest of the more complicated stuff, just providing a link to a suitable free internet resource with some good advice on how to speed up your computer should do the trick. At least then the onus is on somebody else to decide what is good advice and what isn't - with a wiki it's all too easy to add a weird and possibly damaging tweak to the list, when you've got nothing to lose if it causes problems.

    Hope that makes sense!
    Very valid point totally agree with you, didn't see it from that side, not all people exercise common sense when using a computer like my younger bro lol

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    Cheers for the advice Jim! I have removed everything you suggested we be rid of I think. Is there anything else you suggest we take out/put in?

    Is the recommendation to use GameBooster and Advanced SystemCare something you wouldn't recommend either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    Cheers for the advice Jim! I have removed everything you suggested we be rid of I think. Is there anything else you suggest we take out/put in?

    Is the recommendation to use GameBooster and Advanced SystemCare something you wouldn't recommend either?
    It's hard to say really, I haven't used either of them so I can't comment - I think you should probably just tread carefully with it. I have no issue with you leaving Spybot and SAS on there, because they're very much tried and tested programs with clear methods, goals and success rates.

    As for things like the two you mention, it's much harder to gauge. For example, as far as I'm aware, GameBooster achieves its results primarily by closing down unnecessary programs - who decides what's unnecessary? The clipboard is often deemed unnecessary by certain tweakers, but someone taking a screenshot on FM might disagree - just an example in this situation, I'm sure it doesn't do that.

    My gut reaction (you can see I rely on it a lot ) would be to remove them until we can get a firm consensus of what is "safe" and what isn't - at the moment we've only got the original author's word for it, and while I don't dispute that, it may not be the correct one.

    I'm just rewriting the "affiliated clubs" article as we speak, but perhaps once I've done I'll have a whisk through this article and just see if I can clean it up a bit. It's got no major flaws as is, but it could certainly to with some refocussing and reorganising I reckon, especially because it's been hacked up a bit.

    While I'm here, is there any kind of a "to-do" list set up on the Wiki? I was just wondering because during my editing of the affiliates article I noticed that it completely misses the idea of getting a parent club, which is fairly important. I'm not really one for writing original content, more editing what's already there, but I reckon if I put something in the discussion page for that article it would never get read. Just thinking that a special area where people could put ideas for edits/articles in, and then when somebody has some spare time they can browse it, and decide which bit they fancy taking on. I don't think with such a small Wiki the Wikipedia method of putting a bar at the top of each article to say what needs doing with it would work, but a feature to point out what needs doing could be useful .

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    If this forum is anything to go by (whether it is or not is largely debatable being honest ), GameBooster is a reliable tool. I have had no problems with it myself but then again that doesn't mean a whole lot. Advanced SystemCare doesn't actually do anything to your PC, it just brings defrag and all those kind of tools together.

    We had a long, long to do list over the summer - most of which has now been completed. At the moment, there's nothing that's on our agenda really except gathering all FM10 info together, which doesn't take a whole lot of work. At the moment, I'm just going around to random pages, proof-reading them, and adding any info I feel needs adding. A to-do list sounds good to me, although I will need to have a scan through all the pages again before I can decide what needs doing. If anyone could make some recommendations that'd be great.

    I understand that there are a lot of articles that are far from complete at the moment, but we have only a handful of regular editors so it can be tedious keeping up with everything at times.

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    Do you think that a general thread for transfers for each month would be a good idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssestig View Post
    Do you think that a general thread for transfers for each month would be a good idea?
    It'd take a lot of work but it'd be a good resource for those who make database updates. It might be too much effort than it's worth though if there are already sites for this (which I guess there are, not certain). If you want to do it, go ahead imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    If this forum is anything to go by (whether it is or not is largely debatable being honest ), GameBooster is a reliable tool. I have had no problems with it myself but then again that doesn't mean a whole lot. Advanced SystemCare doesn't actually do anything to your PC, it just brings defrag and all those kind of tools together.

    We had a long, long to do list over the summer - most of which has now been completed. At the moment, there's nothing that's on our agenda really except gathering all FM10 info together, which doesn't take a whole lot of work. At the moment, I'm just going around to random pages, proof-reading them, and adding any info I feel needs adding. A to-do list sounds good to me, although I will need to have a scan through all the pages again before I can decide what needs doing. If anyone could make some recommendations that'd be great.

    I understand that there are a lot of articles that are far from complete at the moment, but we have only a handful of regular editors so it can be tedious keeping up with everything at times.
    Yeah, I know they can get a bit labour-intensive to the point of becoming worthless, I just thought it would be a good way of letting people know that something needs sorting, because the forums don't really seem like the best platform for it.

    And now for something completely different...

    I was just reading through the general stadium information article, and noticed the claim that there are four factors listed: Money in the bank, Current capacity compared to maximum potential capacity of current stadium, Average attendance in relation to current capacity, Luck. Surely any current debts are considered as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    It'd take a lot of work but it'd be a good resource for those who make database updates. It might be too much effort than it's worth though if there are already sites for this (which I guess there are, not certain). If you want to do it, go ahead imo
    I'll see what everyone else thinks first Alan. Could be hard work like you said but I think that it would be quite good. If it doesn't work then you could delete it. Could be like this:

    =1st August=
    Transfers

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    etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooty_jim View Post
    Yeah, I know they can get a bit labour-intensive to the point of becoming worthless, I just thought it would be a good way of letting people know that something needs sorting, because the forums don't really seem like the best platform for it.
    I agree that it would be better to have a to-do list on the main site rather than the forums. What would you think if we were to add a to-do list in similar format to the stub template at the bottom of pages that need work?

    Not sure about the stadiums query, although I assume debts also come into account. Pnefc22 will probably no more about it than myself though.

    Quote Originally Posted by ssestig View Post
    I'll see what everyone else thinks first Alan. Could be hard work like you said but I think that it would be quite good. If it doesn't work then you could delete it. Could be like this:

    =1st August=
    Transfers

    =2nd August=
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    etc.
    It's only one page so I don't see what harm it could cause.

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    Infact I'll start it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    I agree that it would be better to have a to-do list on the main site rather than the forums. What would you think if we were to add a to-do list in similar format to the stub template at the bottom of pages that need work?
    Yeah that looks good, I didn't know that template existed but it fits the bill pretty nicely, just a link to the page and a very brief outline of what is required would probably give the improvement efforts a bit more focus.

    Not sure about the stadiums query, although I assume debts also come into account. Pnefc22 will probably no more about it than myself though.
    Yeah, I don't know a lot about the inner workings of the game I have to admit so I tend to prefer waiting for someone else to confirm what I think before editing

    I think I'm going to divide the Making FM Faster article into some clearer sections, to keep the PC tweaks and FM tweaks separate. I'll see what it looks like when I'm finished, if it's a load of rubbish I'll put it back again.

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    For pages that already have stub tags, I think we should take an approach like the one I've taken on this page, to avoid clutter with so many boxes.

    Go ahead with the tips page, it's a bit of a mess at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    For pages that already have stub tags, I think we should take an approach like the one I've taken on this page, to avoid clutter with so many boxes.

    Go ahead with the tips page, it's a bit of a mess at the moment.
    Yeah that's great, nice thing as well is that it should keep most of the recommendations brief. Are you just going to go ahead and edit the stub then? If it always has the to-do list visible I reckon it might tempt people to fill it in, as opposed to having to choose between a plain one or one with a built in to do list.

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    http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk...=Template:Stub

    Took a while to figure out, but it should be fully functioning now.
    Code:
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    |list=Whatever you want to say}}
    That's what you need to put onto the page to make it work.

    The brackets in all the tagged pages look a bit ugly though, I'll see if I can sort that out now.
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    I've sorted out the stub template and have done the first 3 stubs, will do the rest tomorrow.
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    http://community.sigames.com/showthr...03#post3723603

    That's the new thread in the fansites forum, HoPeY deleted the old one so we had one that we could uodate the opening post on whenever we wanted.

    Is there anything that needs adding? I'll do a badge when I have internet on my computer, unless someone can post the image here?

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    Right, I've finished editing the tips page now... can't believe how long it's taken to edit two pages... two! Anyway, you might want to take a look over it and see what you think because it probably needs a bit more messing around with.

    Also, I have just moved the old "Misc" tips, because I'm not absolutely familiar with all of them and I've already spent long enough editing it tonight. I'll take a look at them in due course, but if anybody knows more about them, feel free to sort it out.

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    Cheers, snooty jim.

    I will have a look through it now and tell you what I think.

    To do with current debts being taken into account when improving your stadium, I am not sure about that but I will look into it, and see what some people say.

    PS, I am back from my quick holiday and have regular internet now (was a bit dodgy while on holiday) so, back to work

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    I've made a good few changes to small things like templates, disclaimers and text boxes over the last day or two.

    New system with disclaimers - you do not make a new template for each person. What you type at the end of the page is:
    Code:
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    Make sure to close the bracket or it'll look all screwy.

    Or you could use the gptg-disclaimer I made, which is probably a bit easier:
    Code:
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    Don't think many of you are familiar with making text boxes so I made a template to make it simpler for you guys. For a textbox like the one used for disclaimers to show up, you need to type up this:
    Code:
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    |text=Whatever you want to type}}
    If you want one of those green or blue boxes to show up like on the main page or the featured content page, you type:
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    Also, disclaimers. There's no need to add disclaimers for yourself as you can see who made the page in the history section. The only purpose of disclaimers is to give credit to those who have given us permission to use their content or have passed on information to the site for us to post up. I've added this to the rules.


    I have added a to do list to every stub now. Add any pages you feel need developing to the stub list, it's pretty small at the moment. To add a to-do list:
    Code:
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    I have started up the graphics pack page () and will be adding a lot more to it either today or tomorrow. FM10 blogs won't be coming 'till next week so I'll try and get something done on regular pages while I have the time.

    I've added FM-View's podcast with Miles to the site. The MP3 player works!
    Last edited by ahmufcwafc; 20-08-2009 at 00:04.

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    Excellent work tbh.

    I've done a couple of Twitter updates (@ fmwiki) so I think I win!

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    When FM10 is released, shall we make a FM09 Club Guides category, so we can have new guides for each team but still have them for people on FM09?

    If the page (eg) Arsenal was the FM10 page it would have a link at the top saying something like Still playing FM09? Read the{>09 Arsenal guide!

    And have that page called Arsenal FM09, with the FM10 page simply called Arsenal.

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    Good Idea, some of the pages already have FM10 information included such as signings though.

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    Good idea Jammy. I've added a lot of the transfer section information for the summer window.

    Do you think it would be a good idea to ask those who have threads for FM07 and 08 for permission to add club threads for previous versions of the game?

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    I have been having a quick look at your work and it is very good .

    Is this the place where i reccomend edits to pages?
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    Yep, it's fine if you do that here SJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    Yep, it's fine if you do that here SJ.
    Thanks, in arshavin's profile it says he is arsenal's first choice right winger, but in theo's it says he is. Imo it is theo, also on the arsenal page it says walcott and arshavin are both our RMs, it should be theo imo and arshavin and nasri both left but it doesn't matter which andrei plays on. Also imo the formation should be 4-4-2 imo with van persie up front and adeybayor. and cesc should be cm (a) with denilson at mc (d).

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    If you like ypu can make an accout and edit that yourself.
    I would do it but editing is a bitch on this phone!

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    I've changed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by arsenal_2111 View Post
    If you like ypu can make an accout and edit that yourself.
    I would do it but editing is a bitch on this phone!
    Thanks, yeah i will create an account.

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    Sent a request

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    Accepted .

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    Also when you put amr, aml does that equal a 4-4-2?

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    Anything that you can contribute is good. If you wish to add/edit a page you will need to sign up which is easy to do.

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    Welcome Johny

    Alan, did you see my latest post in the forums?

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    No, will look now.

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    Cheers 10

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    Anyone else heard the pod-cast on FM wiki?

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    The FM-View guys invited us to put the podcast up on the site a few days ago. I've listened to the first half our or so so far. Miles does ramble on a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    The FM-View guys invited us to put the podcast up on the site a few days ago. I've listened to the first half our or so so far. Miles does ramble on a bit
    Yeah he does, but i'm half way through it, quiet interesting in parts

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    What does he talk about?

    Not listening to the whole thing right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnefc22 View Post
    What does he talk about?

    Not listening to the whole thing right now
    Just some small talk and Miles answers some questions that users of FM View asked

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    The podcasts are a nice touch to the site imo. Must ask if we're allowed to put the official FM podcasts up on the site soon enough. It'd be useful having another place to listen to the podcast if you don't want to use iTunes or download the podcast.

    First FM10 blogs should be up next week, anyone willing to lend a hand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    The podcasts are a nice touch to the site imo. Must ask if we're allowed to put the official FM podcasts up on the site soon enough. It'd be useful having another place to listen to the podcast if you don't want to use iTunes or download the podcast.

    First FM10 blogs should be up next week, anyone willing to lend a hand?
    That would be awesome cos i really hate iTunes

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    The podcasts are a nice touch to the site imo. Must ask if we're allowed to put the official FM podcasts up on the site soon enough. It'd be useful having another place to listen to the podcast if you don't want to use iTunes or download the podcast.

    First FM10 blogs should be up next week, anyone willing to lend a hand?
    Yeah sure. Doing what?

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    Thanks Rob, don't expect Jammy to be around much this week either so I do need a bit of help

    Blogs could well be up tomorrow morning and I expect the first podcast to be out before the end of the week so basically what I need help with is getting all the news onto the site.

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    Sorry.
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    can anybody change the FMUnderground link? It is not working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arijit View Post
    can anybody change the FMUnderground link? It is not working.
    Yeah, I will have a look at it now.

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmufcwafc View Post
    Thanks Rob, don't expect Jammy to be around much this week either so I do need a bit of help

    Blogs could well be up tomorrow morning and I expect the first podcast to be out before the end of the week so basically what I need help with is getting all the news onto the site.
    Ok, what sites are they being uploaded to?

    Any been put up this morning?

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    I don't think so. Whenever they're put up you'll hear about it on this forum I'm sure.

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    I have fixed the FMUnderground link, is that working for everyone?

    EDIT: Just adding some re-directs to pages.
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    I have had a quick search and can't find a guide on employing staff whilst managing a national team, is there one?

    If not, I will make one but what should I call it?

    EDIT: Is there a stadium page template? Again, I can't seem to find one. I will knock one up, if there isn't one.

    EDIT 2: Thought about it and actually, I don't need a stadium template.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pnefc22 View Post
    I have had a quick search and can't find a guide on employing staff whilst managing a national team, is there one?
    Don't think so, go for it.
    If not, I will make one but what should I call it?
    Employing coaches for an international side? Something like that but a little less wordy.
    EDIT: Is there a stadium page template? Again, I can't seem to find one. I will knock one up, if there isn't one.

    EDIT 2: Thought about it and actually, I don't need a stadium template.
    I could make you a template for writing up stadium pages that would look like this:
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    It wouldn't make all that much difference though tbf. If you think it'd be easier that way let me know though.

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    Its hard to think of something a little less wordy

    No, I write them up with a template already on my computer and then, just copy them so, it would be a waste of time.

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    Alan, did you get permission to post up that blog?

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    Nope, I assumed it'd be okay, what with it only being posted up on this site. I did post a link to the blog anyway and put it in a quote box. If we're allowed to have the podcasts on the site then surely we could post the blogs, no? I will ask someone at SI anyway.

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    Check the forums mate

    Have you got permission for the podcasts then?

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    Adding FM08 club guides if we get permission will be team (FM08) in the title. So far put up the Crewe guide and just about to put on HoPeY and Purefun's joint Lyon guide if Purefun gives permission.
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    Well done mate, could be a lot of work though!

    Should get internet back a week Saturday so will be able to help again soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arsenal_2111 View Post
    Check the forums mate

    Have you got permission for the podcasts then?
    I thought you said you did?

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    Erm, not that I remember. I asked Neil about them and the blogs, he said he'll try and find out (like I said in the thread...)

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    Oh, that'll teach me to read your posts

    I won't be doing as much on the site as I used to from now on, until around next July I'd say. I'll still make time to do the FM10 stuff though. I'm glad the likes of Jammy, Stig and Rob are still putting work into the site atm. KUTGW guys.

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