Rafalution

its still incredibly important to a whole load of people though. It can still mean the difference between someone achieving a lifes ambition or losing out to a cheat. If you were a professional footballer and you lost a final because someone on the other team dived would you just think 'fair play'?

For me, people that don't give a **** what anyone else thinks and go after their objectives regardless of rules, laws or expectations on what constitutes fair behaviour, are generally a cancer on society. It's obviously not that big of a deal when it comes to sport (relative to other things) but its the same mindset.

Not in the slightest. I'd rather people played by the rules and with good sportsmanship (even if it means losing) than just getting away with as much cheating as they can.

Are you okay with diving then?

I mean if he'd carded him for the first one he wouldn't have done it again, so he's never getting sent off.

He did it twice, got a talking to for the first time, yellow for the second. Should have been yellow for the first one

So in a post talking about shootouts you say VvD has probably never taken one in his life and then when it's pointed out he's taken them in shootouts you just exclude the exact type of penalties that are relevant? And then tell someone else to educate themselves? And you do this without being a parody account? It's pure clockwork.

You get those plenty of football fans that don't watch international football ever right?

The point is unreasonable precisely because, as you say, there is just too much - which means doing what you can and picking your battles and boycotts should still be supported. anyone taking @Rebsposition of just comes across as a complete muppet its a position of 'why ever do anything good if you aren't a perfect human?'. its moronic and condescending. edit: sometimes i reply to individual posts before getting to the end of them all and then realise there is many more saying the exact same thing i said. oh well.

Yeah but its Oche, so he can't respect them as he thinks their weirdo woke lefitists

yeah it was (and wasnt full kit, just a guy in an Argentinian shirt)

Is that better or worse than doing it over 25,232?

Yeah, you could say the same about the league or a domestic cup. I don't think its racist. Just stupid.

Outside of england games i've only watched stuff thats been on at the pub - last 20 mins of argentina /saudi aside. don't think i'll bother with the semis. might watch the final if argentina and/or morocco make it, but not too bothered. if it wasnt for the qatarness of it i reckon i'd have watched well over half the games.