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Harryseaess
24-01-2009, 22:19
A loop hole has been found in the FA Cup rules that states that if it is a draw at the end of the game, if both managers agree then they can play Extra Time and Penalties instead of having a reply.

Link: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,13864_4841020,00.html

Should this option be included in FM?

cris182
24-01-2009, 22:23
i doubt it will be because no doubt it will be changed or an agreement will be reached to stop it happening

arsenal_2111
24-01-2009, 22:24
Well if it is true, and not too complicated, then it should be in, as should anything that is in the rulebook.

CrashOverride
24-01-2009, 22:27
Its an intresting notion but I've never heard of it being used irl, having said that i dont really follow lower leauge football which is what its supposedely aimed at. It could be a nice addition to the game but could easily be over used in situations where it wouldnt happen IRL. Its a rule thats been around for a while and has never come up before so you never know it could be in the game we just havent found it yet?

jptykes
24-01-2009, 22:31
The FA will close the loophole ASAP.

I don't remember ever hearing of it being used either, mainly because both clubs tend to benefit more from the revenue of the replay than they do from getting the tie over and done with. I doubt it'll ever make it into FM.

Harryseaess
24-01-2009, 22:47
The FA will close the loophole ASAP.

I don't remember ever hearing of it being used either, mainly because both clubs tend to benefit more from the revenue of the replay than they do from getting the tie over and done with. I doubt it'll ever make it into FM.

Surely some teams would benefit from getting it out of the way on the night. E.g. If Man Utd played Chelsea and both already have many fixtures from the Premier League and Champions League then they may agree to play it out due to them not wanting an extra game to play?

jptykes
24-01-2009, 22:53
Surely some teams would benefit from getting it out of the way on the night. E.g. If Man Utd played Chelsea and both already have many fixtures from the Premier League and Champions League then they may agree to play it out due to them not wanting an extra game to play?

I see your point but if you were manager would you rather face the lottery of penalties or take your chance in a replay at your own ground?

I also think that the losing side would face a backlash from fans, who would tend to take the view that a competition had been thrown away without making an appropriate effort.

IMO the fact that this rule has hardly ever, if ever at all, been used speaks volumes for its validity and worthiness.

alimac
24-01-2009, 22:54
Its not a loophole, its just a rule.

ssestig
24-01-2009, 22:54
Surely some teams would benefit from getting it out of the way on the night. E.g. If Man Utd played Chelsea and both already have many fixtures from the Premier League and Champions League then they may agree to play it out due to them not wanting an extra game to play?

This such instance would probably be the only time it happens.

Harryseaess
24-01-2009, 22:58
I see your point but if you were manager would you rather face the lottery of penalties or take your chance in a replay at your own ground?

I also think that the losing side would face a backlash from fans, who would tend to take the view that a competition had been thrown away without making an appropriate effort.

IMO the fact that this rule has hardly ever, if ever at all, been used speaks volumes for its validity and worthiness.

Good point. I can't really say if teams would use it or not.

Worcester City Researcher
24-01-2009, 22:58
The rule is there for the benefit of non-league sides at the lowest levels to minimize travel costs incurred in replays.

But sometimes - this happens: http://thefavase.blogspot.com/2008/09/game-1-oakwood-3-chertsey-town-3.html

ChrisCryptic
24-01-2009, 23:27
That was a cool story. The rule is meant for non league sides and should only be used in the early rounds when it is necessary.

rich_sotdc
25-01-2009, 01:02
it was mentioned on todays man u spurs match, apparently both managers were asked if theyd like to take advantage of this rule

Ozzy38
25-01-2009, 02:13
I'm glad the F.A. are being paid so much money to make amateur mistakes.

Ok, sorry, this post is several years late...

Kickballz
25-01-2009, 02:20
Both teams would be unlikely to agree to it. Well, it's been around forever and nobody has bothered with it, so I think it shouldn't be included. The last thing we want is for every second cup tie in the game using this rule becuse of dodgy AI and everyone complaining about how unrealistic it is. Best to leave well alone.

swisso
25-01-2009, 02:24
You could understand Fergies pov, he doesn't want his squad knackered with replays. But from a lower-league pov, they survive on the gate receipts that a draw like Man Utd brings.

Ozzy38
25-01-2009, 02:45
Well according to Fergie he didnt say anything like what The Sun said. And I mean, come on, it IS The Sun we're talking about.

Basketcase
25-01-2009, 02:57
Fergie said he would not agree to it as he has to much respect for the FA cup. That'll be why he pulled Man U out of it a few years back then!!

Kickballz
25-01-2009, 03:01
Where on earth did you get that from Basketcase? Fergie never said anything like that at all.

Ozzy38
25-01-2009, 03:03
Fergie said he would not agree to it as he has to much respect for the FA cup. That'll be why he pulled Man U out of it a few years back then!!

That's the F.A.'s fault for not letting them compete in both cups. If it's a choice between the inaugural World Club Cup and the yearly F.A. Cup for one season, it's going to be the world cup every time.


Where on earth did you get that from Basketcase? Fergie never said anything like that at all.

ITV interview.

Armchair_Athlete
25-01-2009, 03:10
Where on earth did you get that from Basketcase? Fergie never said anything like that at all.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,13864_4843241,00.html