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ozzay
24-01-2009, 03:42
I offered Aston Villa 20mil for a player, and they reject, so i make a new offer of 21m, and they accept, now see thats just taking the micky

Almondo
24-01-2009, 03:44
sometimes the AI management do take the mick. I saw City pay over 32m for gareth bale now that's dumb

ozzay
24-01-2009, 03:47
it's not so much who i offered for(nordveit i think thats how its spelled,who has become quite the player come end of 2011) its the fact that over 750k they change their mind

Richard Wright\'s Championship Medal
24-01-2009, 03:47
i once saw someone sign BOTH daryl murphy and paul mcshane- ridiculous

Almondo
24-01-2009, 03:48
man changing their mind for an extra 750k they are stupid

Matt SFC
24-01-2009, 03:48
These bids all tend to depend on the timing when the bid is made. Which is a bit unrealistic really. If i'm after a long term target who's quite expensive (well they tend to be don't they), i keep scouting him because my scouts give me a good idea of how much the club will accept, so i know when to make the offer

ozzay
24-01-2009, 03:50
well i made the 2 bids in the space of 2 days or so, so that shouldnt matter

Matt SFC
24-01-2009, 03:50
out of interest what player was it?

ozzay
24-01-2009, 03:51
havard nordveit,

Tyler
24-01-2009, 04:38
No, I just signed Lee Bowyer for 6 years and he is 35 year old, now that is stupid.

ozzay
24-01-2009, 05:18
No, I just signed Lee Bowyer for 6 years and he is 35 year old, now that is stupid.

Did you just take pity on the lad?

buzzer
24-01-2009, 06:36
How is that stupid? There has to be a cutoff point somewhere.

garumn
24-01-2009, 07:06
Also the limit of what to reject and what to accept has to be put somewhere?
Even for your own players you got a threhold for where you say yes or no on bids.
That value can be 100k, 500k, 13M, 20M, 21M, or any other number.
As buzzer say, there has to be a cutoff point somewhere.

Bromley Raven
24-01-2009, 10:57
Yes, there has to be a cutoff. However, if they are very close to the cutoff I would expect them to negotiate rather than reject the bid.

Micado
24-01-2009, 11:45
it's not so much who i offered for(nordveit i think thats how its spelled,who has become quite the player come end of 2011) its the fact that over 750k they change their mind


man changing their mind for an extra 750k they are stupid
Why is that stupid?

There has to be a cutoff point somewhere.
Exactly, I do the same, I set a value for a player and if they meet it, I accept, otherwise I reject, even when they only are 750K short.

ozzay
25-01-2009, 00:26
Yea but as Bromley said, if you are close to it, it'd be smarter to negotiate it rather than reject it

NepentheZ
25-01-2009, 01:07
This is the one I hate :

You offer 15,000,000

They want 20,000,000

so, you offer 18,500,000

they now want 25,000,000

:mad:

Now you think sod it, I'll offer what they initially wanted, 20,000,000

they now want 27,000,000.

Hmmmm. Interesting that.

You think f. this, I don't want him that bad.

They sell him for 10,000,000 to other AI club.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

N1ck
25-01-2009, 01:44
So so true

makelele696
25-01-2009, 01:46
This is the one I hate :

You offer 15,000,000

They want 20,000,000

so, you offer 18,500,000

they now want 25,000,000

:mad:

Now you think sod it, I'll offer what they initially wanted, 20,000,000

they now want 27,000,000.

Hmmmm. Interesting that.

You think f. this, I don't want him that bad.

They sell him for 10,000,000 to other AI club.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

so you bid 10m when they do

NepentheZ
25-01-2009, 02:09
And they reject it. :(

Lung
25-01-2009, 02:52
Didn't Tottenham offer more for Bellamy irl than Man City? West Ham just rejected Tottenham's bid on principle (Unsettling their player...)

Wee Aja
25-01-2009, 02:58
I offered Aston Villa 20mil for a player, and they reject, so i make a new offer of 21m, and they accept, now see thats just taking the micky

Perhaps he had a release clause of 21M?

ozzay
25-01-2009, 23:47
Perhaps he had a release clause of 21M?

Nope no release clause in his contract

matt_132
26-01-2009, 00:17
situation probably changed, maybe he became unsettled or something, or was unhappy that your 1st bud was rejected

ozzay
26-01-2009, 00:28
situation probably changed, maybe he became unsettled or something, or was unhappy that your 1st bud was rejected

Yeah he was unhappy with the bid being rejected, but i doubt the situation could change within a day though

phnompenhandy
26-01-2009, 07:20
Bought a player last night. I offered $X. They asked for $XX plus a 10% sell-on AND one of my fringe squad players. I agreed. The player agreed terms with me. Then it fell through as my player wouldn't leave.

So I bid again - $XX - no sell-on or player-exchange, just the basic sum they'd asked for in the first place. They accepted and I got the guy :rolleyes:

DougyMarshall
26-01-2009, 07:34
Theres a lot of people treating it like black and white in this thread.

phnompenhandy, perhaps the AI recognised that you could not convince your player to move?

Also you couls treat it as bartering.... ive asked how much Hearts want their 20 year old scottish regen (who is utter class) and they said 25m.. i offered 15 plus clauses and they accepted.

Just because the AI wants 25m doesnt mean thats the lowest they will accept.

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Also as for the AI not selling you a player for the price the told you... its clear that the AI of that team simply has no interest in letting you have the player.. would you sell your main player to a rival team/somebody you dislike?

When the other AI team offered half of what you did it was probably a team that posed no threat to the original team and as such the deal wouldnt come back to bite them.

phnompenhandy
26-01-2009, 07:46
Dougy - my player is worth 4 MIL. I'd have expected the AI club to request a higher cash deal.

stuboy
26-01-2009, 12:28
well if the player became unsettled that could be the reason. I did it this season with a player, was one of my best so rejected a offer but he was upset so i accepted the next decent offer to come in, can't remember if it was much more or just the same.

ozzay
26-01-2009, 12:43
well if the player became unsettled that could be the reason. I did it this season with a player, was one of my best so rejected a offer but he was upset so i accepted the next decent offer to come in, can't remember if it was much more or just the same.

that might be the reason, but still considering the timing between offers, and the amount difference, it is ridiculous, they should just negotiate it

Nomis07
26-01-2009, 12:48
750k might seems stupid compared to the initial offer, but it's a couple of weeks wages for some clubs and that carrot might jsut be tasty enough for them to bite.

Ikoru
26-01-2009, 13:20
I also hate this, I also hate it when they ask you pay 2 million extra, so you change the bid to abit lower and they put it 5 million extra.

jayahr
26-01-2009, 13:46
sometimes the AI management do take the mick. I saw City pay over 32m for gareth bale now that's dumb

erm, frankly, I paid 44m for him... he does well :)

pedro007
26-01-2009, 13:58
I think it is well known that the transfer system in not the best feature of this game but we have to live with it. I offered 42m for Aguero which was rejected, he signed a new contract the next day so I offered 31m, accepted.

With Man City I dont see it as a problem, I just sell them all my deadwood for massive fees :thup:

Micado
26-01-2009, 14:06
Yea but as Bromley said, if you are close to it, it'd be smarter to negotiate it rather than reject it

Yeah, I agree on this, rather strange to reject it then.

ozzay
26-01-2009, 14:21
750k might seems stupid compared to the initial offer, but it's a couple of weeks wages for some clubs and that carrot might jsut be tasty enough for them to bite.

Aston Villa isn't one of those clubs though, if it were a smaller club id understand it, but not them,