I've turned off 3d

Too jerky, strange angles, small figures, tells me nothing about my tactics/formation and makes viewing the game more difficult.

Back to 2d, albeit on full screen and happier than ever.

I think if I had a computer that struggled to run the 3D match view that would have been on of the first things I'd have done. Luckily, I am able to watch it smoothly and I really like it, which was the last thing I was expecting.

Well done, good for you, have a cookie, various other pleasantries

In all seriousness, if that's how you feel about 3D then fair play, got no argument with that, personally, I don't find any of those things an issue, but each to their own

Fair enough, personally I dont get any of those problems.

I think if I had a computer that struggled to run the 3D match view that would have been on of the first things I'd have done. Luckily, I am able to watch it smoothly and I really like it, which was the last thing I was expecting.

Same here mate. I am lucky enough to be able to watch my matches in 3D which do tell me more about my players positioning and right now i am wondering why my full backs seem to always loose the the man they should be marking by always becoming into the CB's position. I have tried everything to stop this but always happens. 3D for me is so smooth and after the first few weeks when i thought this was a waste of time, 3D now has won me over.

I also turned back to 2D only because I need a newer graphics card

my 3d match engine worked fine until i installed the new 2nd patch and now its all jerky and slow any solutions out there?

my 3d match engine worked fine until i installed the new 2nd patch and now its all jerky and slow any solutions out there?

Try playing in windowed mode.

thanks i have tried that and it doesnt make a difference any other ideas?

I use the 2D aswell, better for watching how the team plays IMO

Plus the 3D makes me feel like im playing something from 1994, i just dont like it

I think if I had a computer that struggled to run the 3D match view that would have been on of the first things I'd have done. Luckily, I am able to watch it smoothly and I really like it, which was the last thing I was expecting.

Mirrors my view to be honest. I didn't think I'd get a benefit over the 2d view.

Only other thing I'd say to the OP is, I play on a laptop that sits on the minimum spec and it doesn't struggle with quality of frame rate. I'd definitely check drivers and directX to see if it could be improved....

You aren't really missing much what with all the bugs 'n' all. I prefer to read commentary across the bottom of the page always have, always will. Hardly EVER used 2d so when 3d came out i was a little scepitcal. Unfortunately it shows the amount of times that stupid things happen that in IRL would NEVER happen (i.e no pressure from opposition your defender will kick it out for a corner etc....)

There isnt really anything wrong with 3d, its just unfortunate that the original match engine is unfinished once again.

BUT i am enjoying the game tho, just finished my 2nd undefeated season

I thought 3D was absolutely rubbish at first. However, I changed the view to 'Elevated' and now it feels the same as 2D as the view is the same.

You aren't really missing much what with all the bugs 'n' all. I prefer to read commentary across the bottom of the page always have, always will. Hardly EVER used 2d so when 3d came out i was a little scepitcal. Unfortunately it shows the amount of times that stupid things happen that in IRL would NEVER happen (i.e no pressure from opposition your defender will kick it out for a corner etc....)

There isnt really anything wrong with 3d, its just unfortunate that the original match engine is unfinished once again.

BUT i am enjoying the game tho, just finished my 2nd undefeated season

You've still got the same match engine when you use commentary only, so the same defensive mistakes are still there. You just don't see them. Saying you avoid the graphical representation so that's not apparent is like saying you don't look at the rain to make you believe it's not there.

By the way, players don't seem to kick balls out for corners for no apparent reason. At least they don't in my games. Maybe I have better defenders, where as ones with a lack of confidence would kick the ball out.

Mirrors my view to be honest. I didn't think I'd get a benefit over the 2d view.

Only other thing I'd say to the OP is, I play on a laptop that sits on the minimum spec and it doesn't struggle with quality of frame rate. I'd definitely check drivers and directX to see if it could be improved....

And I always thought SEGA employees had all the best, most expensive toys...

I really like the 3D view... I don't use it too much, usually only to watch great goals. I've watched a couple of full matches and enjoyed it. People moaning about the actual graphics don't understand the point of 3D mode. It's not about making the game look like FIFA09.

Oddly enough, on classic view I got frustrated with the 3D pitch especially when players would do stupid things like watch the ball for 10 seconds then get tackled or the worse was when it hit the post and I had 3 players in the box and not one moved to the ball, and then the opposition scored. However I switched ot TV view and the game seems to run a lot more smoothly with less stupid hiccups so maybe having it on classic view puts more pressure on the computer then TV view.

I prefer 2d also - to be honest dont use either on this version it is so annoying that they removed the separate slider for highlight speed.

please bring it back !! there was no reason to remove this in the first place !!!!

I really can't imagine going back to 2D now. It'd be like selling my car and trying to get to work on a horse and cart.

(Been ages since there's been a car analogy on here! )

I enjoyed 3d at first and it runs superbly for me but I decided to speed up the game a bit and because I like the classic FM look that I would go back to 2d and on FM08 I ended up going back to commentry.

I might eventually go with 3d, because i remember when CM4 came out i was a bit sceptical about the 2D, and prefered using Commentary only, I love the 2D engine now, can't believe i used to rely on commentary

3D Still looks crap though, and by looking crap i mean released on the Commodore 64 crap

3D Match engine runs fine on my new PC, but I've chosen to stick to the 2D match engine as I simply enjoy it more. I don't mind simplistic graphics, but the lack of animations just make the gameplay look sloppy and doesn't do well enough to replicate a game of football. 2D leaves more to the imagination, so I can picture my players having more finesse than the 11 people who punt the ball around in 3D.

3D Still looks crap though, and by looking crap i mean released on the Commodore 64 crap

2D looks like it was done on the VIC-20 so for me 3D is still a massive leap forward!

I would play 3D if my computer allowed me too as I liked it. Unfortunately it was too slow so I changed to 2D.

i dont really like the 3d either

it was a novelty at first but its just too boxy and jagged

its not bad for a first attempt and im sure itll be improved next time round

not really a prioirty for me though

I love the elevated TV view but the other angles arent any good for anything other than watching goals - pretty much the same as TV football coverage.

No way I could go back to 2d now, same as I felt about text only when 2d 1st came in

Unfortunately it shows the amount of times that stupid things happen that in IRL would NEVER happen (i.e no pressure from opposition your defender will kick it out for a corner etc....)

See you say that, but I remember being in Glasgow watching Celtic v Dundee in the Scottish Cup in about 1994/1995. Celtic had a left back called Lee Martin (ex-Manchester United) who during that game, and for no apparent reason turned on the ball so that he was facing Stuart Kerr, Celtic goalkeeper, and blasted the ball past him from about 20 yards out. Fortunately the ball went wide. He was not under any pressure, in fact there was not a Dundee player within 20 yards of him. Still cannot work out to this day what he thougt he was doing.

my 3d match engine worked fine until i installed the new 2nd patch and now its all jerky and slow any solutions out there?

This happened to me as well. I am running WWSM on Mac OS X. I have no solutions to offer.

I used 3D for a few matches, but i still prefer the good old 2D view

thanks i have tried that and it doesnt make a difference any other ideas?

If it's on a Vista and you experience alot of HD access.

Disable these 2 services:

Readyboost

Superfetch

I did and the match is running smoothly.

If it's on a Vista and you experience alot of HD access.

Disable these 2 services:

Readyboost

Superfetch

I did and the match is running smoothly.

How do you disable these features?

I also have vista btw.

The only thing why I don't like it is because it don't tell you nything about your tactics, unlike 2D.

yep 2d classic is the one, shame the game is a mess though

i dont have a dedicated graphics card and it runs fine!! just put it on lowest quality in preferences if you havent already tried that

and what pop ups do people use on 3d match screen? - I go for my:- player ratings/ match stats/Their formation

FM09 is a great game but you must recycle bin the vintage 3D in favour of the wide classic 2D.

The Commodore Amiga handled 3D in a far superior way if you look at " The Manager " for Amiga, early '90 stuff for youngsters.