cipriang80 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Never heard of something as stupid as this. I am in charge of Rapid Bucharest and was playing Chealsea in the CL groups. Like it wasnt hard enough, my stiker gets a straight red in the 7 th minute for handballing. My striker was in the opposition s penalty area, not in my penalty box, so i was attacking.(no yellows before that). This really is an annoying bug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Just yesterday I wondered if handballs have disappeared from the game completely as I cannot remember a single handball (not even talking about one in the own area) in FM09 at all. To agree it is a bug, there would be more info to be provided. In the own area you can quickly get a red for handballing (and strikers might well be there on an opponent's corner). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Why is it a bug? If it stops a goalscoring opportunity / last man etc then it can be sending off? Maybe give more details about the incident? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipriang80 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 Nooooo, it was in chealsea s penalty area. If it would have been in my area, i agree : penalty +red car. But it was in my opponents penalty box. This would have been i would reloaded if i had a save before thet. Really mad about this crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I remember an opposition goalie grabbed the ball in what seemed to be inside his box, but got a straight red for handling outside the area. Gonna go back and look at the incident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipriang80 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 Why is it a bug? If it stops a goalscoring opportunity / last man etc then it can be sending off? Maybe give more details about the incident? It was not in my box. I was attacking, it was in their box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Yeah stupid bug, there's no such thing as deliberate handball. SIOSI!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I remember an opposition goalie grabbed the ball in what seemed to be inside his box, but got a straight red for handling outside the area. Gonna go back and look at the incident. My oppo's keeper actually handled it outside the area yesterday but no free-kick. I guess it was a graphical flaw rather than a wrong ref decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipriang80 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 Yeah stupid bug, there's no such thing as deliberate handball. SIOSI!! read the post, smart guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Yeah stupid bug, there's no such thing as deliberate handball. SIOSI!! My, you are grumpy today As has been said, if it was a deliberate and very obvious handball it's not beyond the realms of posibility that the ref would send him off for it. More info needed for it to be accepted as a bug imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Paul Scholes anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 After watching the replay in slow motion, the ball went into the box, then went back out, then he grabbed it. It seemed that as soon as he dived for it, the ball put on some magic backspin, causing it to go outside of the box, and him getting a red card. Random. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 read the post, smart guy. I've just read it again and it's as rubbish as when I first read it. There is no rule saying handball deserves a red card, but only in your own penalty area. It is dependant on the nature of the handball and whether or not it gives the player an unfair advantage over the opposition. IMO handling in the opposition area is as bad as handling the ball in your own area. But hey, everyone else says bug all the time, why not jump on the bandwagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Paul Scholes anyone? No thanks, red hair repeats on me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipriang80 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 My, you are grumpy today As has been said, if it was a deliberate and very obvious handball it's not beyond the realms of posibility that the ref would send him off for it. More info needed for it to be accepted as a bug imo. Did you ever see a red card for a handball in the oppositions penalty area, while the team is attacking. I am well aware that a red card is requaired if a player stops a ball thats going in the goal with his hand, BUT WHEN HE IS ATTACKING, IN THE OPPOSITIONS PENALTY BOX. It was my striker that got the red card. There was a throw in, close to the oppositions corner flag. My FB trows the ball in treir box, Lewandowski touches the ball and ......RED CARD. He was 10 yards away from their goalllll.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevvy Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I've just read it again and it's as rubbish as when I first read it. There is no rule saying handball deserves a red card, but only in your own penalty area. It is dependant on the nature of the handball and whether or not it gives the player an unfair advantage over the opposition. IMO handling in the opposition area is as bad as handling the ball in your own area.But hey, everyone else says bug all the time, why not jump on the bandwagon. if you handle the ball in the oppositions penalty area and its deliberate and you get an advantage (eg you handball the ball into the back of your opponents net) then that's a yellow card offence,not a red card-i doubt theres ever been a red card for handling the ball in the opponents box even if you get an advantage-if there has,then its an incredibly rare occurance,because its known up and down the land that such an incident is a yellow card offence,not a red card offence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipriang80 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 I've just read it again and it's as rubbish as when I first read it. There is no rule saying handball deserves a red card, but only in your own penalty area. It is dependant on the nature of the handball and whether or not it gives the player an unfair advantage over the opposition. IMO handling in the opposition area is as bad as handling the ball in your own area.But hey, everyone else says bug all the time, why not jump on the bandwagon. Go and watch some real football. You ve been playing these game for too long. The article 34, from the arbitration book, says that deliberated handballing should be punished with yellow card, unless it relates to article 16 wich talks about handballing in your own area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Did you ever see a red card for a handball in the oppositions penalty area, while the team is attacking. I am well aware that a red card is requaired if a player stops a ball thats going in the goal with his hand, BUT WHEN HE IS ATTACKING, IN THE OPPOSITIONS PENALTY BOX. It was my striker that got the red card. There was a throw in, close to the oppositions corner flag. My FB trows the ball in treir box, Lewandowski touches the ball and ......RED CARD. He was 10 yards away from their goalllll.... While it's rare players can get a red card for deliberate handball anywhere on the pitch. If a striker is baring down on goal and they purposely stick out their hand to knock the ball past a player, for example, a very harsh ref may send that player off. Or the ref could have just been having a stinker of a game. In a world where players can get 3 yellow cards and stay on the pitch it's not hard to imagine a ref sending off a player for something stupid. If it starts to happen a lot then it may be bug, but as this is the first report of this that I've seen I'll stick with the opinion that it's just a freak occurance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipriang80 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 While it's rare players can get a red card for deliberate handball anywhere on the pitch. If a striker is baring down on goal and they purposely stick out their hand to knock the ball past a player, for example, a very harsh ref may send that player off.Or the ref could have just been having a stinker of a game. In a world where players can get 3 yellow cards and stay on the pitch it's not hard to imagine a ref sending off a player for something stupid. If it starts to happen a lot then it may be bug, but as this is the first report of this that I've seen I'll stick with the opinion that it's just a freak occurance. I know that things happen, but the post game said the referee has an excellent game. Thant MF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I know that things happen, but the post game said the referee has an excellent game. Thant MF. Fair enough. As I said, it may have just been a freak occurrance and while annoying is probably not going to happen often enough for it to be classed as a defect that SI will bother looking into. I may be wrong though and we may get an influx of people complaining that they're having players sent off for handball on 9.0.2. I think a bigger problem that I've seen is the lack of handballs. I can't think of hardly any in my games so far, although this may just be down to the fact that they happen in areas of the field that lead to free kicks that result in nothing. I may therefore simply not be seeing the highlights of these incidents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Guy! Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Handball is punishable by a red card if it is blatantly on purpose, as in more or less grabbing the ball or punching it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 ronaldo anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Did he try to take the ball and run off the pitch with it or something ?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipriang80 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 Fair enough. As I said, it may have just been a freak occurrance and while annoying is probably not going to happen often enough for it to be classed as a defect that SI will bother looking into. I may be wrong though and we may get an influx of people complaining that they're having players sent off for handball on 9.0.2. I think a bigger problem that I've seen is the lack of handballs. I can't think of hardly any in my games so far, although this may just be down to the fact that they happen in areas of the field that lead to free kicks that result in nothing. I may therefore simply not be seeing the highlights of these incidents. It is funny, because in 3 seasons, i ve never saw a handball. The first one, really burnt me. If it would have happen 2 seasons ago, agains a match with chealsea in CL, i wouldn care, because i wouldn stand a chance any way. But these season is going real well, with wins in the first 2 games agains Copenhagen and lyon. By the way, playing rapid bucharest in the 3rd season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowles Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 ronaldo anyone? He got a yellow you *****! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapatero Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Very recently I've had a player sent off by handballing. But it was a proper sent off. First he got a yellow for fouling someone. Later he handballed (at midfield) and was sent off (second yellow). I just chimed in to say that there are indeed handballs but, as already said, there are very, very few. Actually, I'm on the 5th season on this save and I only recall this one handball. But it could be that my memory is failing me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 He got a yellow you *****! well this proves you wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Handball is punishable by a red card if it is blatantly on purpose, as in more or less grabbing the ball or punching it. No way! You need to get yourself a new arbitration book Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 well this proves you wrong. That is absolute class :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 well this proves you wrong. God that is hilarious Lewis:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 That is absolute class :D God that is hilarious Lewis:thup: thanks. i feel so special and smart now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverride Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Both funny and been edited unless there were three teams playing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Both funny and been edited unless there were three teams playing! Nah, Ronaldo enjoys running around with his hands in the air, apparently something to do with hearing whistles that sets him off in a handball frenzy;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Both funny and been edited unless there were three teams playing! wow some mancs are a bit edgy today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverride Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Manc Manc my ruddy arse Im a red with a habit for pointing out the obvious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 oops im sorry i associated you with that 'thing'. now then for anyone who is bored or a tottenham fan, take a look at this: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverride Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Apology accepted you cant really tell from my username (unlike yours!) And roflmao at the second vid! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 oops im sorry i associated you with that 'thing'. now then for anyone who is bored or a tottenham fan, take a look at this: Haha, how gutted would you feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 roflmao I've heard of rofl. And Lmao and even roflcopter. But not roflmao :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Haha, how gutted would you feel. what to be a manc or van persie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy slappy Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 If he was using his hand to gain an advantage over other players then a red card is the right decision. Say, if he used his hand to take the ball away from a defender to get a clear shot at goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 If he was using his hand to gain an advantage over other players then a red card is the right decision.Say, if he used his hand to take the ball away from a defender to get a clear shot at goal. yeah back on topic. (although i have another 1 of those pictures only its gerrard diving. ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 yeah back on topic. (although i have another 1 of those pictures only its gerrard diving. ) That's cuz he's a cheating thug. what to be a manc or van persie? Both Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 That's cuz he's a cheating thug.Both i dont agree with your first point as i have proven a lot of times that he is innocent. i agree with the second 1 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.rooney Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Both Paul Scholes and Cristiano Ronaldo were sent off for two yellow cards and not straight reds as the original poster had happen to his player. Without seeing the incident, unless it was the worst case of deliberate handball ever, he should probably be given a yellow because he was in the oppositions box. If this is a red card, then not only is the "hand of god" a controversial goal but Maradona should also have been sent off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTerry-look-alike Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 depends what kind of handball it was. for all we know he may have picked up the ball and lobbed it in the goal :S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipriang80 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 I can load the game if anybody is interested in seeing this or a run of 51 unbeatean league games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryknow Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Paul Scholes anyone? Exactly, an intentional handball probably occured like what Scholes did last year. Hitting the ball with your hand into the goal is going to be a red card unless the ref is very soft. Unlucky for you, take away his wages for a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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