A knighthood!!??

What about if you do really great (probably the Quadrupel) like Wenger does on my game, can you not be KNIGHTED?

I like the fact that i would be a SIR without having to put it in myself.

Hmm, bit of a waste of time if you ask me. Anyhow, winning lots of competitions does not mean you're going to receive any special awards in the honours list! There are plenty of other things that would come before this surely.

No point to it.

It seems a bit superfluous: if you want to be Sir that badly just nickname yourself or set it as your name at the start, nickname yourself without it and then remove the nickname when you think you've done enough.

look at alex ferguson he got knighted after winning the european trophy once. then again, Bob Paisley won it 3 times he got nothing.

Fergie won the three major honours available in England. Not the mickey mouse cup. Something which no othermanager has been able to do. That was why he knighted. Its about as pointless as complaining about the ref:

you cant do anything about it when your right,

BUT risk a hefty fine/thouchline ban when your wrong..... but its still there!!!

Busby was knighted for winning the trophy once as well, Bob Paisley won countless trophies in the 9 years he was manager and all he got was a MBE

look at alex ferguson he got knighted after winning the european trophy once. then again, Bob Paisley won it 3 times he got nothing.

You can get a knighthood for anything nowdays. I'm suprised Jordan hasn't got one.

You can get a knighthood for anything nowdays. I'm suprised Jordan hasn't got one.

Surely if that happened it'd be a damehood

No point to it.

Well I'd love it personally ..

The reason why Ferguson got knighted along with all the other awards for players that have played under him is simple... Feguson manages and they play for the bumchums of the FA, the ones that can do no wrong, the ones who we should be sympathetic towards because a fan got a bit squashed at a football match (not 2 fans stabbed and killed, just squashed), the ones who get 3 years injury time when losing, but games aree stopped before 90 mins when they are winning, the ones who can be offside for own goal.

And that team is Manchester United.

The reason why Ferguson got knighted along with all the other awards for players that have played under him is simple... Feguson manages and they play for the bumchums of the FA, the ones that can do no wrong, the ones who we should be sympathetic towards because a fan got a bit squashed at a football match (not 2 fans stabbed and killed, just squashed), the ones who get 3 years injury time when losing, but games aree stopped before 90 mins when they are winning, the ones who can be offside for own goal.

And that team is Manchester United.

Not bitter then? :thup:

I agree to an extent, but there's a heck of a lot more foreign cash washing around the EPL nowdays for that sort of thing to last much longer. United aren't the dominant force they were in the 90's ..

Why has Chris Hoy got knighted, he is a loser! Ruins the reputation of knighthoods

Why has Chris Hoy got knighted, he is a loser! Ruins the reputation of knighthoods

3 gold medals I believe. It is a bit of an odd one though - he should really have got a CBE.

But then they knighted Pratchett. So all is well with the world.

Knighthoods are recommended by the public anyway, aren't they? Not Buckingham Palace who decides to randomly give them out; the Queen acts on recommendations.

Knighthoods are recommended by the public anyway, aren't they? Not Buckingham Palace who decides to randomly give them out; the Queen acts on recommendations.

The Queen does what she is told.

There's probably a thread on this in the OT Forum btw.

I'm surprised at previous posts so:

Sir Alex Ferguson.

Aberdeen.

Now I can't say I haven't seen a post that mentioned Fergie and Aberdeen also.

Hmm, bit of a waste of time if you ask me. Anyhow, winning lots of competitions does not mean you're going to receive any special awards in the honours list! There are plenty of other things that would come before this surely.

Look at all the athletes at the Olympics who are being honoured this year.

Busby was knighted for winning the trophy once as well, Bob Paisley won countless trophies in the 9 years he was manager and all he got was a MBE

ALL he got was an MBE

ALL HE GOT

:confused:

British honours are awarded on merit, for exceptional achievement or service.

Anybody can recommend a British national for an honour, which consist of life peerages, knighthoods, appointments to the Order of the British Empire and gallantry awards to servicemen and women and civilians.

Nominations, sent either by government ministers or by members of the public, are divided into subject areas and assessed by eight committees comprising both senior civil servants and independent experts.

so in other words we could nominate Ter or michaelTmurryuk lol or next year for services to the games industry

so in other words we could nominate Ter or michaelTmurryuk lol or next year for services to the games industry

I don't think Ter has done enough to warrant a knighthood to be honest. No offence Ter, you do a great job.

there maybe no point to it but it happens in real life and if this is a simulator then it should happen in the game too

The late great Jock Stein should be knighted.

This is a football management sim, not a nationhood sim.

i actually think it would be nice, but the quadrouple wouldn't be enough to be knighted lol

I don't think Ter has done enough to warrant a knighthood to be honest. No offence Ter, you do a great job.

But then "Sir Ter" does have a certain ring to it, what with the rhyming and all.

But then "Sir Ter" does have a certain ring to it, what with the rhyming and all.

It does actually, shame he didn't prevent me getting this completely ridiculous infraction.

It does actually, shame he didn't prevent me getting this completely ridiculous infraction.

Lucky you. I don't seem to be able to get any, despite regularly being a complete twit.

It does actually, shame he didn't prevent me getting this completely ridiculous infraction.

It's a warning, not an infraction. Ter wasn't the one who gave you the warning, and if you have any specific complaints about the warning, feel free to PM one of us, but don't discuss it on the forums please.

Lucky you. I don't seem to be able to get any, despite regularly being a complete twit.

Im sure if you asked nicely!

Anyway OT How do we know you dont get a knight hood if you fufil certain criteria?

Maybe

20 EPL's

10 FA Cups

1 + League Cup

5 + ECL's

1 + World Cup

1 + Euro Championship

Anyone say they have acheived all of the above in 09 yet?

It's a warning, not an infraction. Ter wasn't the one who gave you the warning, and if you have any specific complaints about the warning, feel free to PM one of us, but don't discuss it on the forums please.

I'd just like to add, I started on the white grenache about two hours back already ..

I'll try and remain on-topic for the next two or three hours at least.

Er, im sure you mods are having fun but you are now well off topic.

I feel good saying that!!!!

This is a football management sim, not a nationhood sim.

but it happens in football

Er, im sure you mods are having fun but you are now well off topic.

I feel good saying that!!!!

Right, I'll infract myself then shall I? (Actually, it's not possible to infract myself).

Anyway, I have to say, I'm not 100% sure if the OP was being entirely serious in his suggestion, but I'm not a fan personally. The world player of the year can sometimes throw up odd winners, so it would be kind of annoying to learn that Maik Taylor has been knighted or Stan Ternant has been awarded an MBE.

but it happens in football

Technically, it doesn't. The award has nothing to do with football - it doesn't affect the football, it's not awarded by footballing bodies, it has nothing to do with football, so it doesn't happen in football any more than Wayne Rooney getting married to Colleen happened in football.

Technically, it doesn't. The award has nothing to do with football - it doesn't affect the football, it's not awarded by footballing bodies, it has nothing to do with football, so it doesn't happen in football any more than Wayne Rooney getting married to Colleen happened in football.

What would Wayne Rooney be if he wasnt a footballer?

A virgin!!!!

Technically, it doesn't. The award has nothing to do with football - it doesn't affect the football, it's not awarded by footballing bodies, it has nothing to do with football, so it doesn't happen in football any more than Wayne Rooney getting married to Colleen happened in football.

It happens in real life that people get recognized for their footballing achievemets. so in my opinion it does happen. its not like they get knighted for other reasons.

It happens in real life that people get recognized for their footballing achievemets. so in my opinion it does happen. its not like they get knighted for other reasons.

no they get recognised for their achievement in sports or for something they did in the community

fair enough guys, i still disagree

It happens in real life that people get recognized for their footballing achievemets. so in my opinion it does happen. its not like they get knighted for other reasons.

Yes, often its an award for services to sport (rather than football afaik), but it's still not an award that happens in football (it's not awarded by anybody involved in football, such as the press or a governing body of football or an FA) and it's not something that would ever go on a footballer's footballing achievements. Cristiano Ronaldo will have Balon d'or winner on his footballing achievements, but Steven Gerrard won't have "MBE" on his footballing achievements even though it was probably awarded for services to football (total joke if you ask me, but that's besides the point). For those reasons I wouldn't argue for it to be included.

it wouldn't matter anyway would it? i'd probably never get it

but Steven Gerrard won't have "MBE"

well he wont now hes been arrested for fighting lol

All Fergie does now is moan after every game.

That is if they lost or had a penalty given against them(or another incident happened in the game)

Sir Alex Ferguson has been de-knighted in fm09, poor chap. As to the OP, has nobody pointed out that Wenger can't get knighted since he's not British - like, er, Sir Biggob Geldof ....

Sir Alex Ferguson has been de-knighted in fm09, poor chap. As to the OP, has nobody pointed out that Wenger can't get knighted since he's not British - like, er, Sir Biggob Geldof ....

They probably qualify for citizenship through residence ..

look at alex ferguson he got knighted after winning the european trophy once. then again, Bob Paisley won it 3 times he got nothing.

Jock Stein was the first British Manager to win the European Cup and he hasn't been knighted but Alex Ferguson was. No point to adding this to the game in my view.

Something i found online about Jock Stein:

Jock Stein is considered to be one of the greatest Scottish football managers, along with Bill Shankly, Sir Matt Busby and Sir Alex Ferguson.

Stein was born in the small Lanarkshire mining village of Burnbank in 1922. During his time as manager of Celtic he won ten Scottish League Championships, eight Scottish Cups and six Scottish League Cups, but his greatest achievement was to guide Celtic to victory in the 1967 European Cup final in Lisbon. Celtic triumphed 2-1 over Italian champions Inter-Milan, winning admiration for their attacking style and earning the team the nick-name 'Lisbon Lions'. In winning this prestigious trophy, Stein became the first British club manager to achieve this.

The released file concerns the period following the 1967 Cup win, when consideration was given by Scottish government officials to proposing Stein for an Honour after the club’s victory. The Scottish Office recommended that Stein should be granted a CBE, and later proposals were put forward for a knighthood for contributions to Scottish football (NAS ref. ED33/23 p29). The argument ran that other football managers such as Sir Alf Ramsay, the England manager, and later Sir Matt Busby of Manchester United, had received similar honours following their respective footballing successes. The recommendation included a supporting statement that

"Celtic is the first British club even to reach the final of the European Cup and it is widely acknowledged that Mr Stein's tactical ability has been decisive in this achievement."

A further revised handwritten amendment added that

"The attacking play of the club under his guidance has been as attractive as it has been successful and has had a salutory influence on the defensive style which had characterised the European competitions in recent years." (NAS ref. ED33/23 p10)

The recommendation was turned down at the time, though Stein was eventually awarded a CBE in 1970.

Jock Stein went on to manage the Scottish national football team, and led Scotland to the World Cup Finals in 1982. Tragically, he died from a heart attack on 10 September 1985 during a qualification match against Wales, as Scotland equalised to gain the point needed to qualify for the 1986 World Cup finals in Mexico.

You can read the whole file which is contained in the following PDFs:

(NAS ref. ED33/23 pages 1-15 Acrobat PDF - 4.47MB, opens in new window)

(NAS ref. ED33/23 pages 16- 30 Acrobat PDF - 4.48MB, opens in new window)

(NAS ref. ED33/23 pages 31-45 Acrobat PDF - 5.02MB, opens in new window)

Jock Stein was the first British Manager to win the European Cup and he hasn't been knighted but Alex Ferguson was. No point to adding this to the game in my view.

Something i found online about Jock Stein:

Sometimes its political: Famous figures such as Clough, Shankly etc were active socialists and union agitators which were very anti-regime focussed.

I know Stein wasn't a Catholic, but that would have mattered too ..

look at alex ferguson he got knighted after winning the european trophy once. then again, Bob Paisley won it 3 times he got nothing.

Sometimes its political: Famous figures such as Clough, Shankly etc were active socialists and union agitators which were very anti-regime focussed.

Could be Stein was the same. Out of all the managers to be knighted though surely he should have been the first for being the First british team winning the European Cup with 11 scots players all born within a 30 mile radius of Glasgow. But as you say, Could be politcal though shame if it is.

Could be Stein was the same. Out of all the managers to be knighted though surely he should have been the first for being the First british team winning the European Cup with 11 scots players all born within a 30 mile radius of Glasgow. But as you say, Could be politcal though shame if it is.

I suspect it is somewhat political which is another reason why it shouldn't be included in the game IMO.