mongfong Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I've heard this on the forums, but does it actually happen because if it does is'nt it a bit unrealistic i mean does Fergy or Wenger completely change the tactic's every 5 games because the Ai has worked out a way of nulifying 3 world class players? Bit silly i think but would'nt surprise me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 You know how ferguson plays though don't you? But you try and stop them scoring with pretty much any team and you will have a hard job. The ai adapt tactics to beat you but then slight changes can keep you one step ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 It's a myth since the early days of CM that AI managers do counter your tactics, if you use them for a very long time. I think there is just a random factor in the game, which makes the same tactic not that effective over several seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 If you take into consideration the conditions which vary every few months, such as weather, morale, league position, general happiness then they also are bound play a part in results. In my tactics, i play a slow passing game and depending on opponents i play different ways of going forward. either run onto if their defenders are slow. they should then use a lower defensive line which means i can take advantage of that with my midfield. basically if you take advantage of their weaknesses (which vary hugely between teams) you can beat anyone. If you vary slightly each game they won't have a set thing to learn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 There is some truth to the 'AI learns your tactics' but in a believable way. In your first season they've never played you as a manager before and tend to be quite attacking. If you have a good 1st season, the next season they'll be more wary and play more defensively, possibly leading to a '2nd season syndrome' if you don't adapt. That's more about adapting to your reputation rather than specific tactics really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSCA4Ever Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I always change my tactics a little after a few bad results. Usually it turns things around for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty bison Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I had a message first game of this season that Liverpool know how we will play, or words to that effect, in the press conference. This scares me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANNY1000000 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 The game is too hard anyway so whats the difference, its made even worst with the rubbish tactic system that is currently in place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 it is a sophisticated tactic system which you have to understand rather than use guess work on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANNY1000000 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 it is a sophisticated tactic system which you have to understand rather than use guess work on. Its not sophisticated IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Its not sophisticated IMO. fair point. is it the 09 engine you don't like or in previous versions aswell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongfong Posted December 24, 2008 Author Share Posted December 24, 2008 The game is defo to hard, i mean im up for a challenge but it shouldnt take hours of hard work like its took me to become good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureForce Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 so basically you like a real easy game that you can buy, spend a few hours playing, complete and then whine about how short and easy it was, or brag to your "mates" how quickly you completed the game those games are boring and a waste of money, football manager is a test of strategy and intelligence with a more sophisticated tactics system than any other football or sports game around. i'd like to see you come up with a better system while you constantly have people such as yourself claiming that it isnt and that its too hard just suck it up and learn, push yourself to be better and try to win a game, rather than consign yourself to defeat and blame it on the game... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANNY1000000 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 so basically you like a real easy game that you can buy, spend a few hours playing, complete and then whine about how short and easy it was, or brag to your "mates" how quickly you completed the gamethose games are boring and a waste of money, football manager is a test of strategy and intelligence with a more sophisticated tactics system than any other football or sports game around. i'd like to see you come up with a better system while you constantly have people such as yourself claiming that it isnt and that its too hard just suck it up and learn, push yourself to be better and try to win a game, rather than consign yourself to defeat and blame it on the game... Oh yeah, because we all have hours upon hours to spend on a game (yes a game, oh which is for "leisure" time (in my case not many hours)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANNY1000000 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 fair point.is it the 09 engine you don't like or in previous versions aswell? Its the last two versions, it took me a long time to get going on FM 2008. I just think this is far too time consuming and frankly really challenging to ensure you hold on to a win against a crapier team, you can control the whole game and be winning by 2 or 3 then if you dont tweak around a certain time then your team loses all sense of how to pass and tackle (causing you to end up drawing or better still losing when they have had their first shot in 90 mins) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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