Mitja Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 for a start i want to say that i've been playing this game since mid sixties (sorry nomis;)) and there's no chance i could be wrong about what i'm going to tell you... i decided to start this thread just to show how things changed after i started A NEW GAME on 9.2.0. eventhough SI say the patches are save game compatible, that wasn't my experience in this case. i hope this post could encourege you to start a new game. after i installed new patch, i continued to play on my save and all seemed very weird to me, especially my matches where i felt no tactical control over things. players were behaving strangly, their movement was slow - it seemed like they tuned down player movement a lot, also the match in general felt very slow and confusing. i couldn't believe that this is the new patch. than i decided to start a new game after seeing people have totally differnet feelings about this new patch, remebering last year's similar issues and some discussion in this thread: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=83407 i'll just say that i was very plesently surprised from what i witnesed in my matches, it was totally different ME feeling. i don't want to talk too much about it's changes, i'll jut state how i think you can recognise 'the real 920' patch (assuming you're playing saved game on new patch): the most important change is that ball physics has changed a lot. especially long passes are played at very fast speed, something i haven't seen in any FM before and i must say it feels exellant, almost perfect. i'm not 100% sure (just 99%) but i don't think i remeber that on my continued game which felt slooow... player speed seems quite as it was on 910 and faster than in 920 'fake'. becouse of the ball speed there are more mistakes in passing and anticipating things of course. but players don't act stupidly, these are type of mistakes that happen IRL a lot and add to the realism. it's a positive thing. player ability is more important and obvious, it feels realistic indeed, defently not confusing like in fake 920. it looks like sliders were tweaked a lot also. passing will seem strange at first but it's an exellant change. closing down is very obvious thing to notice. it's tweaked so it's much more effective and realistic. players could be behaving aggresive and will sprint towards opponent unlike in 910 or fake 92. i don't want to say the game is now perfect but it is a big improvement from 910. there are probably quite some other things i could add to this ME differences in 920 and the fake one. and i will post them later probably. if anyone wants to add something it would be welcomed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketcase Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Totally agree with that. Most people on these boards that experience problems are continuing an old save. Atleast thats the way I see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff PaulC Posted December 23, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted December 23, 2008 I am delighted you are enjoying the game but some of the stuff you describe simply has to be some sort of placebo effect. For a start, the match engine wont be different according to whether you start a new game, and also, the stuff about pass speed and player speed - sorry, I just dont think things have changed noticeably in either area! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 7 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I am also continuing a saved game and i must agree that players are acting real weird. Just had a player rounding the keeper, then running past the goals, Right along the goalline it seems before shotting from 5 yards out and hiting the post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipknot67 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I have to agree with the op in 1 respect to passing, you can now tell the diffirence a lot easier between a low whipped in cross and a high floated one. However as to players running I'm glad to see that the players suddenly being able to run at superhuman speed when a winger is 1 on 1 with the opposition fb has been sorted, but my players running pace seems to be pretty much as it ws b4 the patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitja Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 whether it is a placebo effect i don't know, of course how would i, i'm just saying what i'm seeing. since you're the man in charge of ME we'll just need to believe you. i'm kind of disapinted what you say about ball speed, it's something i wished for a long time and now you're saying i'm imagening it it must have been the effect of a 'fake 920'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitja Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 one thing i forgot to add in my first post is that i noticed i my new game on 92, there's missing my motivation screan when i play match. i'm not sure if it is a part of ME or something alse but in my continued save, that screan was still there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlp071 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 one thing i forgot to add in my first post is that i noticed i my new game on 92, there's missing my motivation screan when i play match. i'm not sure if it is a part of ME or something alse but in my continued save, that screan was still there... Which screen you are talking about ? Not quite understanding. Hvala lipa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitja Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 the motivation screen in assistent's feedback or more acuratly in match day info. it's a known issue with 920 but i'm to lazy to work it out. jel se znamo možda? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve dewilde Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Mitja any feedbacks having your MCa getting low ratings every match ? If yes: did you find a solution ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilJay Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 The thing that really annoys the hell out of me, is that before the patch, and after the patch I had the same tactics, before any monetions this... and the opposition was of similar ranking... Before, I would get maybe 10-15 shots, 5-9 on target, maybe 1-3 CCC. After, I got two over 20, nearly 30 shots, with under 5 on target both times, over 4 CCC's on both I believe. But I scored more before, yes it could be chance, could be the team taking a dip in form... but logically I do not believe it. Coincidentally, I am more fluent in passing, scoring less, while creating more, and the opposition scoring more! Im not one to complain, in fact, since well CM 01/02 I haven't complained once, but now im getting quite irritated. I like the game, even the annoyingly repetitive press conferences (have something different than.. Agree, Slightly Agree, Disagree and Strongly Disagree), even though i rarely appear at them these days. This version is by far the most bugged, yet I personally do not believe there was massive advances in the game, apart from the 3D, which I personally do not use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitja Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 @ steve im only in my 5th match in pre-season so i can't really coment on that. my MCs are on low ratings but their performences vary but also they're probably the worst part of my team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainu Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 The thing that really annoys the hell out of me, is that before the patch, and after the patch I had the same tactics, before any monetions this... and the opposition was of similar ranking...Before, I would get maybe 10-15 shots, 5-9 on target, maybe 1-3 CCC. After, I got two over 20, nearly 30 shots, with under 5 on target both times, over 4 CCC's on both I believe. But I scored more before, yes it could be chance, could be the team taking a dip in form... but logically I do not believe it. Coincidentally, I am more fluent in passing, scoring less, while creating more, and the opposition scoring more! Im not one to complain, in fact, since well CM 01/02 I haven't complained once, but now im getting quite irritated. I like the game, even the annoyingly repetitive press conferences (have something different than.. Agree, Slightly Agree, Disagree and Strongly Disagree), even though i rarely appear at them these days. This version is by far the most bugged, yet I personally do not believe there was massive advances in the game, apart from the 3D, which I personally do not use. This 100% exactly the same I've witnessed after the patch. I'm creating much more, often getting over 20 chances with a good 6-7 CCC, even against strong opposition. But my finishing has become appalling. My strikers always hit the target, but too weak, too near the goalkeeper, much like when he gives a backpass to his own goalkeeper. I rarely score from easy chances now. Meanwhile, the opposition has become EXTREMELY clinical, finishing almost every CCC, which they manage to create a few of each match as my defenders seem much worse than before. Which all leads me to often draw or lose games I completely dominated in terms of possession and chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitja Posted December 24, 2008 Author Share Posted December 24, 2008 wasn't that more of a problem with 910? did you satrt a neww game or continued? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainu Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 wasn't that more of a problem with 910? did you satrt a neww game or continued? My strikers didn't score a lot of easy chances on 9.1.0 either indeed. I thought SI would maybe make them a bit more clinical but now I'm getting even more chances and scoring even less, so the end result is it's a lot worse than 9.1.0. A continued save, but that's no excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Can not keep a clean sheet with 920... Yeah I know it´s my tactics.. Managed to win the euro cup though,so I´m of to a new season. Hope it gets better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitja Posted December 24, 2008 Author Share Posted December 24, 2008 has anyone tried to start a new game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tibasta Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 i have start a new one game and i have the same problem... my strikers miss a lot of clear chance one vs one... whit 9.2 match engine is ridiculous playing fm.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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