the_spoony_bard Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 When my player takes a knock, he goes a shade of orange and has a little red cross logo above his head on the 2d match engine.. I check his stats and his condition is normally around 60%, its almost certain that I take the player off as to avoid further injury. Why is it that if an opponent gets a knock and has the same little icon above their head, their condition barely ever drops or is fine? I just had Gerrard take a knock against me in the 5th minute, he played the full 90 and scored, and his condition finished ABOVE most of my players who played a full 90. Its been like this for every FM I care to remember and it is a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Well that's just your opinion. I find that my guys stay just as fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
encore69 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 often when players take a knock they manage to shake it off after 10 mins or so then return to normal fitness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 its not been fixed because theres nothing to fix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Players who pick up knocks often see their condition rise if you leave them on the pitch long enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 What is there to fix? He ran off an injury, and got better. This is realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNWALFC Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I think this is realistic as well. Some times the oppositions do get a light knock at they carry on and dont have an influence it is just the luck of the draw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4457 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 If you let your players play through (I never used to do this but have increasingly done so on FM09 9.2.0) it's quite possible they won't be injured post-match. Could just be a little niggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverride Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Well I have always taken them off just in case but having considered your opinions I may leave them on. Espesically (sp) as the assistant says may be able to shake it off. Ive always thought leaving the player on could aggrevaite the injury and now im not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcormack Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 it doesnt always effect players condition greatly. i would take a player off if he went down to the 60's but i would leave him on if he was close in condition to the rest of the team. it's all about judging the situation sometimes you'll worsen it sometimes they will run it off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Dave Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I'll tell you what hasn't been fixed - the fat that the minor knock could be a sprained thumb or a thigh strain and you have no idea what the problem is. I don't see why the physio can't at least give you a clue about what the problem is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaToon Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 While we're talking about injuries, why is it that a player can't play with a sprained wrist? I fractured a wrist as a kid and still played the next game, albeit with a splint on my wrist. But in FM, a player hurts a hand and he can't play. Doesn't seem realistic to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4457 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I'd argue it's the same IRL. Even outfield players don't play with wrist injuries nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaToon Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I'd argue it's the same IRL. Even outfield players don't play with wrist injuries nowadays. Well, fair enough then. This was quite a few years ago when I was a kid, and it was also a youth league game and not a professional one. It still annoys me though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAHoward Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 as for the knock issue i usually watch the inj'd player (fatigue usually rises) when his fatigue finally begins to drop i sub him just for cautious sake. if he gets the knock in the 5th minute like the op said the said player usually doesn't get to play to halftime because he usually tops out around 35-40 or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I'm not exactly FM09's biggest fan, but this complaint is just deluded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 The irritating one for me is, your player has a bit of treatment on the sidelines after a knock, is able to play the rest of the match and is then out for 3-4 weeks lol. It's like it couldn't be that bad surely, he kept playing with sideline treatment at 90% condition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdbravo Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 The irritating one for me is, your player has a bit of treatment on the sidelines after a knock, is able to play the rest of the match and is then out for 3-4 weeks lol. It's like it couldn't be that bad surely, he kept playing with sideline treatment at 90% condition. Was just about to post exact same thing. I take them off as a precaution usually, and they could have finished the game off, yet get put in the treatment room for 2 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryknow Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 It depends on the knock they have taken and as stated above alot of players can shake them off. Main problem is that you cant find out what kind of knock the player has, for instance I wouldnt take off a player if he has just a cut on his face, leg. But if he has a strain and what not then I would as it could develop into a long term injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I am never sure if I should take someone off if they have a knock, if it would help them treat their injury earlier instead of aggravating the injury. This is definitely an area of improvement or clarification in FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I am never sure if I should take someone off if they have a knock, if it would help them treat their injury earlier instead of aggravating the injury. This is definitely an area of improvement or clarification in FM. FM09 gives us assman feedback; maybe FM10 could give us physio feedback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuboy Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 was there not some sort of physio feedback in an older version, maybe it was just when the player was actually subbed though, you would get something like, "possible knee injury" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 i find that sometimes they take aknock. their fitness goes down to 60%. and then over the course of the next 30mins it goes back up to 90%. other times it continues to go down. other times it stays about 60%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Os Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 If you click up the player profile during the game you will normally see "Potential ****** injury" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forzautd Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I'd argue it's the same IRL. Even outfield players don't play with wrist injuries nowadays. ive seen players play with casts on! ashley cole, eric cantona etc. so yes they can play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4457 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 ive seen players play with casts on! ashley cole, eric cantona etc. so yes they can play But for that to happen, the FA has to approve the casts. This isn't built in game yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB-forever Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 If you click up the player profile during the game you will normally see "Potential ****** injury" Exactly. I always take my players off if they have a potential head injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forzautd Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 But for that to happen, the FA has to approve the casts. This isn't built in game yet. i would say if a player was important enough to the team then they would play with a sprained wrist or whatever. and it shouldnt have any effect on their overall fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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