Female managers in Football

I don't want to offend no-one with this post but should female managers be allowed? there is ladies football with male managers, why not the the way round?

In real life there is none, is there?

Will there be in the next ten years or 25 years. I am sure that there will be some good female managers out there,

what do you think?

Not currently but there are female staff all around the country, from executives to physios etc.

Should spotty 13-year-old managers be allowed? Should couch potatoes who've never played serious football in their lives be allowed? Should YOU be allowed to manage a premiership club with your experience?

Interestingly, if you use the data editor to search exclusively for managers with the female tag on, there's three! And one of them is actually a manager of a club!

Cláudia Malheiros, manager of Andirá (a tiny club, reputation 850) in Brazil.

Should spotty 13-year-old managers be allowed? Should couch potatoes who've never played serious football in their lives be allowed? Should YOU be allowed to manage a premiership club with your experience?

Im not saying they shouldn't be allowed.

I would find it weird if a woman were to become a manager/assistant in the mens game, especially at a higher level. I'm not saying they shouldn't or couldn't do the job, just that it wouldn't feel right tbh

Interestingly, if you use the data editor to search exclusively for managers with the female tag on, there's three! And one of them is actually a manager of a club!

Cláudia Malheiros, manager of Andirá (a tiny club, reputation 850) in Brazil.

Aha! I was wrong then!

I agree that there may not be many female managers around but I don't think that should stop them playing the game! Personally I think a woman playing FM is a way of keeping hold of them rather than them leaving you due to FM commitments

Oh, and for the record, there's bunches of females in other backroom roles in the DB:

(note that I haven't scrolled down in any of these that have a scroll bar, so just guess from the size of the scroll bar how many there are in total. Note also that this is 9.2.0)

Assistant Manager: (none)

Chairman: http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2817/12232008173827gb7.jpg

Coach: http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9367/12232008173932zv2.jpg

Director: http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/734/12232008173953qm8.jpg

Director of Football: http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9375/12232008174014wb2.jpg

First Team Coach: (none)

Fitness Coach: http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7571/12232008174047vy7.jpg

General Manager: http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2955/12232008174103pn2.jpg

Goalkeeping Coach: http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3270/12232008174118kl0.jpg

Manager: http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8081/12232008174134ao0.jpg

Managing Director: http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4899/12232008174147wj9.jpg

Physio: http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4848/12232008174219aa6.jpg (by FAR the largest)

Player: http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5641/12232008174307kd3.jpg (Three, curiously. Possibly all errors, including one "Derek Moore" of Ballymun)

Loads of Player/Backroom hybrids which I can't be bothered to check.

Reserve Team Manager: (None)

Scout: http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/351/12232008174434na4.jpg

U21 Team Manager: (None)

Youth Team Coach: http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/280/12232008174501wg7.jpg

Youth Team Manager: (None)

Oh, and for the record, there's bunches of females in other backroom roles in the DB:

Player: http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5641/12232008174307kd3.jpg (Three, curiously. Possibly all errors, including one "Derek Moore" of Ballymun)

Fantastic!

And one final note on the screenshots above. The "Reserve Team Manager", "U21 Team Manager" and "Youth Team Manager" jobs seem to be curious roles at the moment in that as far as most teams go, those roles are undertaken by other members of staff. Indeed, according to the 9.2.0 DB, there are only two "Reserve Team Manager"s total, neither of which have a club, no "U21 Team Manager"s, and eighteen "Youth Team Manager"s, none of which have a club. I didn't check if they have roles on international sides, but it's still a curious job for the DB.

Should spotty 13-year-old managers be allowed? Should couch potatoes who've never played serious football in their lives be allowed? Should YOU be allowed to manage a premiership club with your experience?

Once again on this Forum someone jumps into an interesting thread that could lead to discussion and without reading properly or understanding the post resorts to negative insulting behaviour!

Luckily others kept it on topic, there is no reason why it can't happen, there are alot more female coaches with FA badges than people realise.

Also I have to say my girlfriend has been a player of FM since the very first version and she is thrilled that she now isn't called a man in the game!

Whilst women are edging in on the sport as a whole I still feel it will be a very long time before we see female managers at professional club or international level. In the same way that I don't think a female version of a sport will ever be more popular or played to same level as the male equivilent. It's not sexist, it's genetics.

Whilst women are edging in on the sport as a whole I still feel it will be a very long time before we see female managers at professional club or international level. In the same way that I don't think a female version of a sport will ever be more popular or played to same level as the male equivilent. It's not sexist, it's genetics.

I give you Netball to mull over.

Could a female play for a team in the English premier league one day?

I give you Netball to mull over.

I said "sport"

I'm fussy on my definitions of sport and Netball definitely is one.

mull it over, CP, mull it over dammit!

In that case so is mud wrestling and foxy boxing.

My point is if there is a male equivilent of netball (some would argue basketball) then it would be more competitive and more popular than the female version. The lack of males playing netball, or the lack of a professional male netball league isn't down to not being able to play the game at a high level.

In that case so is mud wrestling and foxy boxing.

My point is if there is a male equivilent of netball (some would argue basketball) then it would be more competitive and more popular than the female version. The lack of males playing netball, or the lack of a professional male netball league isn't down to not being able to play the game at a high level.

Are you sure there isn't a pro men's netball league somewhere in the world? I'm sure I saw something like it on TransWorld Sport one day.

And mud wrestling and foxy boxing are not sports, they're titillation.

Could a female play for a team in the English premier league one day?

At this point, as a West Brom fan, I'm beginning to wish they were allowed! I'd bring in Hayley Phillipowsky from our ladies side at any time! She scored 60 goals last season!

...I don't think a female version of a sport will ever be more popular...

Tennis? I'll be damned if I'll watch the men's game but the ladies are much more watchable due to the, erm, skills on show :o

I can't honestly see a female manager ever making it in the men's game. Too much sexism. She'd have to break through so many barriers (getting a rep as a coach, getting a board to take her seriously, getting players to take her seriously, getting opponents to take her seriously etc) that it's probably something that's never likely to exist beyond the realms of fiction (anyone remember The Manageress?).

Kudos to SI for including the option though, I know of at least 4 female FMers who are happy that they are no longer referred to as 'he.'

I'm fussy on my definitions of sport and Netball definitely is one.

Darts isn't, though. Darts is a pub game for the obese working classes.

Topless Darts! \o/

I miss Live!:TV

Mike I have to agree with you there. Captain planet it's a good job my sister ain't on these forums as she would want to kill you for saying netball isn't a sport. Skorp I think there is a mens netball league as my sisters team played a blokes team the other week and battered them.

There is indeed a men's netball team. I asked my PE teacher many years ago when I was at school. She was netball-obsessed, so I consider her a relatively reliable source. She told me that professional male netballers tend to be quite effeminate.

i read in 442 magazine that in mexico a woman was too good for the womens game and she plays in the mens league.

FIFA prevented the Mexican club in question from signing the woman. The laws of the game keep male and female players separate. The female players in the FM database are errors.

With the female game being separate, and generally of a much lower standard, crossover of female coaches to the male game is likely to remain fairly minimal

Female physios and board members aren't uncommon since there are no real obstacles to women taking those roles other than sexism.

There is indeed a men's netball team. I asked my PE teacher many years ago when I was at school. She was netball-obsessed, so I considere her a relatively reliable source. She told me that professional male netballers tend to be quite effeminate.

Yeah that's true. I believe my sister called the team they played a bunch of pansies

Thinking about it I can honestly say I don't enjoy watching females play -any- sport, not even in a pervy way (I have a girlfriend so maybe that's why)

I couldn't even bring myself to watch female tennis or snooker. I'm not really sure what the reasons for it are, I just don't find watching women sports enjoyable at all. Maybe it's just because mens sports are generally much more popular and competitive and as a result more exciting? Or I suppose another logical answer would be genetics, that seems to explain everything related to why a man is programmed the way he is. You know, how cavemen behaved and all that

Yeah that's true. I believe my sister called the team they played a bunch of pansies

Maybe that was the team name?

I live in hope (no pun intended) that Hope Powell will get a job on the men's side.

At this point, as a West Brom fan, I'm beginning to wish they were allowed! I'd bring in Hayley Phillipowsky from our ladies side at any time! She scored 60 goals last season!

You don't think the quality of the ladies league and espescially the keepers of the ladies league are much lower then?

You don't think the quality of the ladies league and espescially the keepers of the ladies league are much lower then?

Well of course. It was more a comment about how poor our current strikers are than about how our ladies side is even better.

But with regards to unisex sports, I think Tennis is pretty much the prime example. Women's tennis may not be quite as successful, but it's certainly on a level equal to or near that of the men's side. They compete at the same championships (though for different trophies), and there has been largely equal media coverage to both men's and women's. Many of us could name a similar number of female and male tennis players, and if not, then the ratio of well-known male:female tennis players would be much better, I'd imagine, than in most other competitive sports.

Chess! Both Hungary and Scotland had a woman in their open team at the recent Olympiad.

Should female managers be allowed??? That's one of the stupidest questions I've ever seen raised on here. As has been pointed out, should teenage managers be allowed to play the game? Should non-pros be allowed to manage in the game? Should people who've not done coaching badges or courses be allowed to manage in the game? Of course they should! and so should female managers.

Should female managers be allowed??? That's one of the stupidest questions I've ever seen raised on here. As has been pointed out, should teenage managers be allowed to play the game? Should non-pros be allowed to manage in the game? Should people who've not done coaching badges or courses be allowed to manage in the game? Of course they should! and so should female managers.

He's referring more to the real-world game I think. And also he wasn't saying they shouldn't, he was more intending to spark an interesting debate.

I'd think that the main obstacle to female managers in the modern game would be the lack of playing experience most would be likely to have. There are plenty women involved in various aspects of the game, but most come into it from business and medical angles. Coaching and managing seems to be pretty heavily balanced in favour of ex-pros.

Women's football is part-time, and in the vast majority of cases, their other job will be their 'real' one, providing most of the potential for advancement in their career and earning potential. For a female player to then stay in the game after her playing retirement wouldnt be a particularly attractive choice in terms of earning potential or career advancement.

There's absolutely no reason though why someone very passionate about the sport couldnt make it, and as there are some managers around who have never had a playing career, its entirely possible that one of them could be female.

A woman?

Managing a football team?

HAHAHAHA!

He's referring more to the real-world game I think. And also he wasn't saying they shouldn't, he was more intending to spark an interesting debate.

thanks dreaded walrus! spot on.

In that case so is mud wrestling and foxy boxing.

My point is if there is a male equivilent of netball (some would argue basketball) then it would be more competitive and more popular than the female version. The lack of males playing netball, or the lack of a professional male netball league isn't down to not being able to play the game at a high level.

Would mud wrestling go in the same category as wrestling under 'Sports Entertainment' rather than as a sport?

Would mud wrestling go in the same category as wrestling under 'Sports Entertainment' rather than as a sport?

Sure, if mud wrestling were scripted

Sure, if mud wrestling were scripted

It's not all scripted!

And I'm not even a fan, I just have some basic knowledge of it.

Sure, if mud wrestling were scripted

are you trying to suggest that wrestling is scripted

The argument that something hasn't happened before isn't good enough to say that it won't ever happen. You learn that in the first class of critical thinking 105.

thanks dreaded walrus! spot on.

So if you're point is not related to the Football Manager game, it should be in the off-topic forum.

How many more of these BS threads are we going to see about female managers? All they do is act as a soapbox for thickos to come in and write sexist nonsense thinking they are hilarious.

Could a female play for a team in the English premier league one day?

They never will, unless the F.A. change the rules. They ban mixed teams from the age of 11.

A woman?

Managing a football team?

HAHAHAHA!

lol

that was funny haha

How many more of these BS threads are we going to see about female managers? All they do is act as a soapbox for thickos to come in and write sexist nonsense thinking they are hilarious.

its just a bit of fun mate. dont join the PC's! its all in jest