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mattshez
22-12-2008, 09:07
setting up a feeder team, where woud be best?

Nomis07
22-12-2008, 09:08
Depends on the player nationality and league that he requires a WP for.

mattshez
22-12-2008, 09:11
england, im man utd, i signed a russian player with 193 pa and i need a permit :(

Nomis07
22-12-2008, 09:12
Poland or Belgium, take about 2 years IIRC.

Les Girondins
22-12-2008, 09:12
Belgium or Bulgaria ..

Spain is faster for South Americans.

phnompenhandy
22-12-2008, 09:46
For a Russian, fastest is 3 years - Belgium or Poland. However, do you have either of those leagues loaded? If not, he'll be eligible after 3 years but won't have played any games and so his CA won't have increased much. On the other hand, if his CA is high already and he's an international, he might well cross the threshold of caps earned to get a work permit early. Keep offering him a new contract after every few full internationals. If he's granted one it means the Home Office are satisfied and you can bring him home.

mattshez
22-12-2008, 09:57
thats crap :( is there no way to apply for one again at the end of the year?

CaptainPlanet
22-12-2008, 10:58
If he plays a lot of games for his country you can offer him a new contract and he might get a work permit out of it. If he's a youth palyer and isn't likely to be in the international first team then I'm afraid you're stuck with the feeder club option.

Arkim
22-12-2008, 13:52
Poland, Belgium or Bulgaria are the nations you want to get a feeder club from for work permits. It takes 3 years in these countries and are the quickest places to get one from.

Frame
22-12-2008, 17:46
For a Russian, fastest is 3 years - Belgium or Poland. However, do you have either of those leagues loaded? If not, he'll be eligible after 3 years but won't have played any games and so his CA won't have increased much.

He will "play games" even if the leagues are not loaded.

Moodster
22-12-2008, 17:51
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RobbieStart
22-12-2008, 18:38
'england, im man utd, i signed a russian player with 193 pa and i need a permit'
This is what some one put, can some one tell me what 'pa' is please
Many thanks
Rob

Arkim
22-12-2008, 19:09
PA = potential ability.

Cardiovascular
22-12-2008, 19:14
For a Russian, fastest is 3 years - Belgium or Poland. However, do you have either of those leagues loaded? If not, he'll be eligible after 3 years but won't have played any games and so his CA won't have increased much. On the other hand, if his CA is high already and he's an international, he might well cross the threshold of caps earned to get a work permit early. Keep offering him a new contract after every few full internationals. If he's granted one it means the Home Office are satisfied and you can bring him home.

Teams play games outside the leagues you loaded, this was a new feature this year.

4457
23-12-2008, 01:37
It's not simulated to the full detail that an active league would though.

Snoweel
23-12-2008, 01:43
It's not simulated to the full detail that an active league would though.

That's irrelevent for the purporses of a player's development.

4457
23-12-2008, 02:12
Pretty sure it is. It's been mentioned in the past.

Snoweel
23-12-2008, 04:03
I never noticed any difference in my youth players' improvement whether they went to an active league or not.

League reputation (found in the editor), club training facilities and number of games were far more important.

phnompenhandy
23-12-2008, 04:45
There are some fascinating threads reporting detailed experimentation and analysis of player development. FM09 is too recent to provide conclusive results, but from FM08 it's been shown that CA does not increase much when players are sent to clubs in inactive leagues.

Snoweel
23-12-2008, 04:53
Fair enough.

To be honest, I have most leagues in Europe active anyway.

William.Hua
23-12-2008, 06:29
Send to Spain if he is from South Amarica, and to Belgium if he is not.

zenarcher73
23-12-2008, 11:51
If FM2009 is the same as FM2008, then players from most of the major and minor South American countries get a Spanish passport in 2 years. Major Exception Brazilians don't, probably due to their Portugese roots, I'd imagine.

Poland and Belgium were always the quickest, if you call 3 years quick. I believe to get a Russian passport was like 10 or something! :eek:

ell69
23-12-2008, 11:53
I normally get one in Belgium but got given a bulgarian team this year

Frame
23-12-2008, 17:10
If FM2009 is the same as FM2008, then players from most of the major and minor South American countries get a Spanish passport in 2 years. Major Exception Brazilians don't, probably due to their Portugese roots, I'd imagine.

Brazilians also get a Spanish passport in 2 years.