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Jimbokav1971
22-12-2008, 07:13
Me and my son have played a total of 8 games with the 9.2.0 patch,

We have each played 3 games on our hot-seat game and he has also played an International frienldy in that save.

I have just played a game in my own save

In each of these 8 games the woodwork was hit at least once, (and on one occasion 4 times).

I hoped that this was something that would have been dealt with by the patch and I am astonished that it seems to have slipped through.

Match 9. Woodwork hit twice.

Match 10. Woodwork hit twice.

Match 11. Woodwork hit once.

Match 12. Woodwork hit twice.

Match 13.

dksauron
22-12-2008, 08:03
Yeah strange this hasnt been sorted out....

zapatero
22-12-2008, 08:47
In my savegame, now it's not as blatantly stupid as before installing 9.2.0. Previously it was normal to have around 4 balls, per game, hitting the woodwork (how has this passed QA???). Now it's more like 1 or 2 per game, sometimes none.

Although still a bit too much, it dropped to acceptable levels.

4457
22-12-2008, 08:49
It's definitely still present but it's definitely not as common in my experience compared to 9.1.0. There are usually one or two chances that will hit the woodwork in a game IRL anyway.

PaulC
22-12-2008, 08:49
It was reduced for 9.2 due to a bug in the ball physics on long shots but if its still happening too much we will be able to look further at it for 9.3.

Nomis07
22-12-2008, 08:52
I found it to be a problem with tactics that I have created, long shots hitting psot and bar was a common occurance. Then I started using Knap's tactic, and can probably count on one hand the number of times i've hit the woodwork in my first season. Could it be tactics related?

Hammer1000
22-12-2008, 08:54
It was reduced for 9.2 due to a bug in the ball physics on long shots but if its still happening too much we will be able to look further at it for 9.3.

There's going to be a 9.3?

I must say, i've hit the woodwork about a dozen times in my last 2 games, although i am playing a 9.1 save with 9.2 installed.

4457
22-12-2008, 08:55
I'd be surprised if there wasn't a 9.3. SI usually do a patch post-winter transfer window.

Mitja
22-12-2008, 08:56
Jimbo is this happening with a new game after patch or you continued?

Jimbokav1971
22-12-2008, 09:04
These 10 games are after I patched an existing game with 9.2.0

ricki.bertolino
22-12-2008, 09:37
Me and my son have played a total of 8 games with the 9.2.0 patch,

We have each played 3 games on our hot-seat game and he has also played an International frienldy in that save.

I have just played a game in my own save

In each of these 8 games the woodwork was hit at least once, (and on one occasion 4 times).

I hoped that this was something that would have been dealt with by the patch and I am astonished that it seems to have slipped through.

Match 9. Woodwork hit twice.

Match 10. Woodwork hit twice.

Are you saying that this is not happening in real life? C'mon man, I always see a shoot hitting the woodwork in every game I watch. Your complaint about "being a bug" is pretty ridiculous.... (IMO)

Nomis07
22-12-2008, 10:00
Are you saying that this is not happening in real life? C'mon man, I always see a shoot hitting the woodwork in every game I watch. Your complaint about "being a bug" is pretty ridiculous.... (IMO)

Every game?! I doubt that very much. Hitting the woodwork has been recognised as an issue pre patch, it's feasible that it may still be there and hardly ridiculous.

Jimbokav1971
22-12-2008, 10:04
Are you saying that this is not happening in real life? C'mon man, I always see a shoot hitting the woodwork in every game I watch. Your complaint about "being a bug" is pretty ridiculous.... (IMO)

Yes. That is exactly what I am saying.

The number of times that the woodwork is hit in real life is less than once per game.

The number of times that the woodwork is hit in 9.2.0 seems to be about 1.75.

Nomis07
22-12-2008, 10:18
Jimbokav, do you find that it is mainly CM's/DM's hitting the woodwork? It seems to be the same couple of players, every time for me.

Jimbokav1971
22-12-2008, 10:59
Haven't really taken much notice of who it is that is hitting the post/bar.

bieritarier
22-12-2008, 11:07
It was reduced for 9.2 due to a bug in the ball physics on long shots but if its still happening too much we will be able to look further at it for 9.3.

Really looking forward to 9.3 .. My request is that Running of defenders and marking is tweaked further. Through balls are absolutely deadly with a fast striker now as defenders just let their opponents run away.

Closing down in midfield is another area that doesn't work really well.

Also strange, I still get the best results with a very attacking formationwith 2 MC on FW runs, AML and AMR on FW runs and two strikers. That'd not be too bad if I wasn't newly promoted Ipswich Town.


There's going to be a 9.3?

I must say, i've hit the woodwork about a dozen times in my last 2 games, although i am playing a 9.1 save with 9.2 installed.

I see a shot hit the woodwork every two games now and that seems about right. must say that I don't see more than 2 long shots per game now as now mosly through balls create the chances.


Are you saying that this is not happening in real life? C'mon man, I always see a shoot hitting the woodwork in every game I watch. Your complaint about "being a bug" is pretty ridiculous.... (IMO)

I agree that hitting the woodwork is not uncommon, but every game is OTT or you're just watching the "wrong" games.

The Smudge
22-12-2008, 11:22
I was about to post about this yesterday but I got distracted. In my game they seem to hit it all the time. My team hit the cross bar 4 times in a match thats excluding any times it hit the post which im sure was quite a few. The one which made me laugh was a penalty which my player it straight at keeper to the left hand side but it came back with 4 yards out and with the whole right hand side of the goal open he its the bar lol.

Evilmaniacuk
22-12-2008, 14:07
Im Arsenal, played portsmouth and Defoe & Crouch hit the posts and cross bar 11 times, I had to count because it was amazing, although I think Alumina tipped 5 or 6 onto the crossbar/posts.

Anyho, I won 4-0....

Strikers know where the net and where the posts are

zapatero
23-12-2008, 10:33
11 times? LOL. IRL it would probably quite easily enter the Guinness Book of Records.

samuelburrowsuk
23-12-2008, 10:42
I found it to be a problem with tactics that I have created, long shots hitting psot and bar was a common occurance. Then I started using Knap's tactic, and can probably count on one hand the number of times i've hit the woodwork in my first season. Could it be tactics related?

Yes I think it is tactics related. Should it be? Not in my opinion. Regardless of what tactics are being used, the number of times the woodwork is hit is too high, obviously as the number of long shots are increased the propensity for the ball to hit the frame of the goal increases, but not by as much as the ME is calculating IMO.

This is a wider point on tactics really, there just isn't enough clarity of relationship between what the user wants to do, what the sliders do and what actually happens in the match engine as a result. It just isn't set out in a clear way. I'd like to see a big overhaul of tactics for FM2010, moving away from the sliders and putting in a few "off the shelf" tactics that actually work.

Sorry that was a bit negative, I love FM2009 and I'm totally hooked at the moment but this has been rankling for a little while.

Ryknow
23-12-2008, 10:45
Its bit far from the norm, but doesnt worry me too much.


Would you prefer the ball hitting the post and staying in play or more shots off target.

samuelburrowsuk
23-12-2008, 10:55
Its bit far from the norm, but doesnt worry me too much.


Would you prefer the ball hitting the post and staying in play or more shots off target.

They are the same thing. Hitting the post is actually "off target".

For realism purposes, I would definitely prefer the ball going out of play.

FMQueen
23-12-2008, 10:56
I think its ok in this patch. I don't think its too much

Arkim
23-12-2008, 11:08
In my game at the moment it seems as if the wood work is hit at least 5 times a match. You can definitely notice it happens more often than it does in real life. I'm playing with 9.2 applied by the way.

It's good to know that it's being looked into for 9.3.

adyady
05-02-2009, 08:13
yep same problem here, at least 1/2 times a game, sometimes more, which is far too much! IRL its seen as a freak occurence when it happens 3/4 times in one match!

MrGeezer
13-02-2009, 00:42
Hi,

I'm noticing the same thing on latest patch. I'm seeing it hit woodwork average 2 or 3 times a game. It's almost always MY team as well, oppo seem to do it much less often. I've had quite a 'wandering' career - 5 jobs in 4 seasons, two incredibly sucessful, two incredibly unsucessful and one average. Same in all jobs, so I don't think it's actually affecting outcome of games or anything...

Golaxi
13-02-2009, 02:51
yea its still a big problem. i seem to hit the woodwork at least twice a game and same for the opposition.

lol "is it a tactics problem" I Think Not.

dz47
13-02-2009, 05:05
Posts are the new super keepers!!! I was actually thinking there should be a stat built into the game to record which team hits the post the most often, it happens so frequently!
So yeah, a similar experience for me on latest patch too I’m afraid. I’d say an average of 2-3 a game, and on one recent game where I did actually count, it was 5 times in one game, and from a mix of situations (DC header from corner, MC long shot, striker 1 on 1 etc). I would have to say in terms of the 3d match engine, this is the most frustrating bug for me and incredibly unrealistic when compared to real life. Please tone this down further for 3rd patch SI.

leedsforever
13-02-2009, 07:18
I seem to get it more from long shots from a centre midfielder than anything else... Mascio and Buonanotte hit it all the damn time :O.

Swindon69
22-02-2009, 21:08
Just hit the post/cross-bar 11 times in the last 4 games.