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Cityull
21-12-2008, 21:57
I (Hull City) beat Arsenal 18 nil :)

Now, it was a friendly and they had a youth team out but still :)

http://e.imagehost.org/0511/18_nil.jpg

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 21:58
Blatant cheating go on there.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 21:59
not at all.

Kertiz
21-12-2008, 21:59
Blatant cheating go on there.


I concur .

TigerChris
21-12-2008, 21:59
If only it was real, but saying that, the 2-1 victory was more than enough.

Up the Tigers.

ulrich87
21-12-2008, 22:00
WHAT?
how the? who the? what the....?
Well done dude!




...To avoid someone calling bs I would post more screenies :P

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:00
is there a way i can prove i didn't add another manager?

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:00
i find it amazing that whenever someone does something good everyone assumes it is cheating without having any proof or understanding of how the OP could of faked this.

tfkdougal
21-12-2008, 22:01
Friendly in December?

CrashOverride
21-12-2008, 22:01
Why were you playing a friendly on Boxing day?

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:01
actually it has been faked. paul mcshane scored. :p

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:02
and why is the year 2007?

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:02
i added the brazil league and started the game december 07

ChewyFun
21-12-2008, 22:02
if you cheated = well done?
if you didn't cheat = that's incredible, seriously. Hall of Fame beckons! :thup:

p.s. The Gunners will want revenge later when you play them in the league. ;)

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:02
Boxing day = Games played

Arsenal ? History ?Landmarks

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:02
? = >, typo fwiw

9inarowhoops
21-12-2008, 22:02
WOW just post us your tactics mate

Phil Macklam
21-12-2008, 22:03
Why is the game played on the 26th December when there is always Boxing Day games in England then?
Also why is the date 2007 and not 2008? This is FM09 you're talking about?

TigerChris
21-12-2008, 22:04
actually it has been faked. paul mcshane scored. :p
Must have had Dossena marking him!

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:04
so by starting the brazilian league you went back in time?

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:05
as i said i loaded the brazil league too and started dec 2007 givin me time to buy players and get them all settled and get easy money from friendlies

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:05
Must have had Dossena marking him!

nah dossena would of scored it instead. or would that be carragher?

just kidding i like dossena really. :)

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:05
so by starting the brazilian league you went back in time?

pretty much yeah, try it mate there is a box which you can select to go back to last christmas

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:06
Post Arsenal landmarks please.

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:06
http://bushspeaks.com/img/liar.jpg

this still does not explain how you managed to go back a year.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:07
WOW just post us your tactics mate

Its the first game i have used my tactics, i went fast direct liverpool-esque play. seemed to work

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:07
http://bushspeaks.com/img/liar.jpg

this still does not explain how you managed to go back a year.

Its possible, you can start in 07, 08 or 09

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:08
WOW just post us your tactics mate


Post Arsenal landmarks please.

it is empty??

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:08
so the brazilian league has invented some sort of time capsule on football manager 09 what lets you go either 1 year back or 1 year forward? slick :cool:

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:08
Prove it, sunshine.

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:09
is there a way i can prove i didn't add another manager?
Posting a screenie of the "Player Ratings" screen will help some of those who doubt you. Likewise the "Formations" screen.

xx11
21-12-2008, 22:09
a start would be to save the reply and upload it for everyone to see, or the best way is to upload the saved game as will let people look more indepth at possible cheating and if there was none then they got no comeback as you provided the best possible proof available

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:09
so the brazilian league has invented some sort of time capsule on football manager 09 what lets you go either 1 year back or 1 year forward? slick :cool:

selecting the brazillian league allows you to go back yeah, no league games though hence why a friendly in december

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:10
if this is true i blame underage drinking for the arsenal youth team losing this badly.

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:10
If you can honestly prove you did not cheat, I will accept it and salute you.

townley12inch
21-12-2008, 22:10
is there a way i can prove i didn't add another manager?

who mentioned adding another manager

Lynxboy
21-12-2008, 22:11
Someones been browsing the Editors Hideaway.

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:11
yet that means that hull are in brazil if you go back in the brazilian league. i know there is a brazilain or agentinian side called arsenal. ;)

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:12
http://e.imagehost.org/0531/rating.jpg

http://e.imagehost.org/0096/formations.jpg

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:13
yet that means that hull are in brazil if you go back in the brazilian league. i know there is a brazilain or agentinian side called arsenal. ;)

Nah, you can select the starting time of any of the active leagues you have chosen, regardless of which one you choose to manage in. If you choose the Brazilian and English leagues as active, and manage as an English team, you can choose to start in January, if you like. Obviously half a season will have been played already, but hey.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:13
who mentioned adding another manager

or any other way of proving it :)

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:13
Arsenal Landmarks


Please.

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:14
[player ratings screen]

Someone's been messing with the Arsenal players' fitness. ;)

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:15
Arsenal Landmarks


Please.


As i have said it is empty.

would it make people believe me if i uploaded a save game? if so how?

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:15
so let me get this straight. you chose the brazilian and english leagues as active, that allowed you to go to december 07 where half a season has been played in the 07/08 season. shouldnt hull be in the championship then? and why if you chose the brazilian legaue would you be able to go back?

andyinuk
21-12-2008, 22:16
haha! i didn't know it's possible to have 0.1 as the rating!

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:16
As i have said it is empty.

would it make people believe me if i uploaded a save game? if so how?

I still want a screenshot. If there is none, a blatant cheater.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:16
so let me get this straight. you chose the brazilian and english leagues as active, that allowed you to go to december 07 where half a season has been played in the 07/08 season. shouldnt hull be in the championship then? and why if you chose the brazilian legaue would you be able to go back?

take 1 minute and try it yourself,

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:16
so let me get this straight. you chose the brazilian and english leagues as active, that allowed you to go to december 07 where half a season has been played in the 07/08 season. shouldnt hull be in the championship then? and why if you chose the brazilian legaue would you be able to go back?


I still want a screenshot. If there is none, a blatant cheater.

an empty screenshot?

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:17
so let me get this straight. you chose the brazilian and english leagues as active, that allowed you to go to december 07 where half a season has been played in the 07/08 season. shouldnt hull be in the championship then? and why if you chose the brazilian legaue would you be able to go back?

The match is a friendly, not a league match. And Brazilian league starts in January, so it gives you a choice of starting January of LAST season or January of THIS season, so you can see which you prefer.

*Managed in Brazil in FM08*

Jirki88
21-12-2008, 22:17
And why exactly don't Ramsey have a rating?

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:17
take 1 minute and try it yourself,

i just did. would only let me start from this season.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:18
it reached 0 and disappeared

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:18
an empty screenshot?


Yes, I want an empty screenshot of Arsenal's landmarks.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:18
i just did. would only let me start from this season.

did you have the england and brazil leagues selected?

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:18
I still want a screenshot. If there is none, a blatant cheater.

He's a cheater anyway. The player ratings screen proves it. Look at the Arsenal players' fitness ratings. He'd lowered all of their fitness using an editor.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:19
Yes, I want an empty screenshot of Arsenal's landmarks.

http://e.imagehost.org/0638/landmark.jpg

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:20
yes i just selected brazilian and english leagues, chose to manage fluminese and it stated this season.

xonnk
21-12-2008, 22:20
Hahaha, that's so obvious it was cheating.
The screenshot where he showed the line-ups, as you can see most of the substitutions were made on 45th 59th and 75th minutes.
Now by my over 10 years of playing manager games, i have yet to see an AI manager making 3-4-5 substitutions at once, and in opposite i, as human do it a lot because i don't really have nerves to go to the tactics every 2 minutes, which AI managers seem to do.
Shame on trying to get glory with a cheat, a lot immature.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:20
He's a cheater anyway. The player ratings screen proves it. Look at the Arsenal players' fitness ratings. He'd lowered all of their fitness using an editor.

i didn't. i never have used any editor.

bandi15
21-12-2008, 22:20
Who are those Arsenal players anyway? They are not their youth players except Ramsey. I don't think they can be regens either, if you're playing in the past. :)

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:21
and now we can prove it is faked because it is december and there are no landmarks made even though the season has started.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:22
no season has started, it is the december before th season starts

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:23
the december before the season starts? what do they have an extended christmas holiday?

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:24
they don't have any games for 8 or so months

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:24
Brazil leagues start in February...

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:25
there is as much truth in this as andy gray commentating on a liverpool game.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:26
try it for yourselves

brazil league and english league all manageable teams, you can start dec 07

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:27
yeah but if it is the brazilian league then it would make more sense to start in december 08. otherwise you would be going back a season.

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:27
and now we can prove it is faked because it is december and there are no landmarks made even though the season has started.

The December thing is fine, as the Brazil league allows starting in December 07. Here it is on mine, just starting a new game now: http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1278/12212008222442us9.jpg

And the landmarks thing is fine. Here is my Arsenal landmarks page: http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3801/12212008222110wg9.jpg


Who are those Arsenal players anyway? They are not their youth players except Ramsey. I don't think they can be regens either, if you're playing in the past. :)

If an AI team doesn't have enough actual players fit, it creates "random" players just for the match. In this case, what the OP has done is lowered the condition of all Arsenal's players, apart from Ramsey. Hence why you see players subbed off all over the place with conditions below pretty much what any of us will see for ANY SINGLE non-injured players in a match. Including both goalkeepers, who somehow managed to remarkably reduce their conditions.

This is a blatant cheat, just not for the reasons Kopitelewis is latching onto.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:27
yeah, back a season so that i have time for my players to gel

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:29
ok dreaded walrus, prove it. i can provide any info you want, i swear i did nothing to cheat

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 22:29
so basically walrus i am just thick? :p:(

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:30
ok dreaded walrus, prove it. i can provide any info you want, i swear i did nothing to cheat

Your goalkeeper came on for 15 minutes, stood in a box and still has a rating of 67?

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:30
yeah but if it is the brazilian league then it would make more sense to start in december 08. otherwise you would be going back a season.

When I managed in Brazil in FM08 I chose the earlier of the two Brazilian starting dates, too, because I wanted to start at the start of the (real-life) current season.

aman201
21-12-2008, 22:30
I don't exactly see how he's cheated here, he's proven he didn't add manager so he clearly played a "real" Arsenal team.

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:32
Show us Arsenal's fixtues please.

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:32
I don't exactly see how he's cheated here, he's proven he didn't add manager so he clearly played a "real" Arsenal team.

Adding a manager isn't the only way to cheat. Check the editor forum.

cliff7197
21-12-2008, 22:33
Looks legit enough to me. But then Hull City first team V Arsenal U18s is hardly a fair match up!

ChewyFun
21-12-2008, 22:33
come on Cityull - prove the doubters wrong!
:thup:

varun↕§☺☻♫
21-12-2008, 22:33
Yea, if you select the Brazilian league then you have an option of starting the game in Dec (I think) 2007. The game doesn't go back in time i.e. Hull won't be in the Championship and there aren't any league games. You can play friendlies during that time and sign players and give them time to settle in.
Seriously, so many people didn't know about this??

Lynxboy
21-12-2008, 22:33
The worrying aspect is the fitness of the arsenal players, it doesn't make sense that they are all so low, rarely does a player drop below 70% after starting with 95-100% and for the goalkeeper and defence to be so low it's all a bit fishy. If the players were really unfit to start the AI wouldn't pick them simple as. How the ENTIRE arsenal squad could be so low not to be picked over these guys reminds me of what my friends little brother does, program called FMRTE and a function called Destroy Team, sets all players to 50% Fitness and Excersise and Very Poor morale. Combine this with Cousi/Geovanni on 29 for Positions and you could 18-0 Barcelona.

Cardiovascular
21-12-2008, 22:33
Show us Arsenal's fixtures then their U18's

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:34
here you go mate

http://e.imagehost.org/0609/arsenal_fixt.jpg

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:35
ok dreaded walrus, prove it. i can provide any info you want, i swear i did nothing to cheat
If you upload the .pkm file of the match (say, to rapidshare or something), then we can watch the replay of the match. If you haven't edited their conditions down, then they will not be starting the match with super-low conditions. Which, seeing how I have not had a single match in ages where my keeper has had a condition below 90 (not to mention coming on as a sub for another tired goalie for 15 minutes and somehow managing to lose ~30 condition), I doubt will be the case.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:35
Show us Arsenal's fixtures then their U18's

their u18's? as in players or fixtures?

peter-evo
21-12-2008, 22:36
This is stupid, stop calling him a cheater and congratulate him, even if it was against Arsenals 1-2-3-4-77-78 79th team :D

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:36
Looks legit enough to me. But then Hull City first team V Arsenal U18s is hardly a fair match up!

Did you see the player rating screen showing the player conditions? That seems like a cast-iron case of editing to me. Anyway, we'll see if he uploads the .pkm so we can watch it ourselves.

drmanley
21-12-2008, 22:37
This is possible without an editor. Today I started a game in Iceland in December 2007. When I looked at the Prem table in Dec 07 there had been no games played up to that date. Also I've played another game where I started in June 08 some of the Prem teams had already played a couple of friendlies but most of the players that had appeared were greys and weren't in any of the squads. I'd just loaded some logos in to the game and thought I'd broken it at first!

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:37
hope this is right

Hull_v_Arsenal.pkm (32 KB) (http://e.imagehost.org/download/0362/Hull_v_Arsenal)

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:38
don't think that is right though

Daniel Foster
21-12-2008, 22:39
Why are people so bothered if it was a cheat or not? Who cares...

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:40
hope this is right

Hull_v_Arsenal.pkm (32 KB) (http://e.imagehost.org/download/0362/Hull_v_Arsenal)

I'll watch it now. :thup:

joshmay07
21-12-2008, 22:40
number 1 all arsenal players 66 fitness at start of game

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:41
Why are people so bothered if it was a cheat or not? Who cares...

I don't mind other people cheating in their game if they want. I have nothing against it at all. But there's no point in coming and boasting on a forum about a result if you have cheated in order to obtain said result. Anyway, I'm about to watch the .pkm now, so we'll see. If there was no cheating, then it was a hell of an achievement.

peter-evo
21-12-2008, 22:41
number 1 all arsenal players 66 fitness at start of game
they've had no games and no friendlys.

joshmay07
21-12-2008, 22:42
seems ligit to me bar the 66% fitness

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:43
number 1 all arsenal players 66 fitness at start of game

Yep. proof (http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8288/12212008224134bi6.jpg). Either this is editor-work, or a major bug.

The only one player who isn't 67 fitness is Aaron Ramsey, as mentioned previously. (He's also the only player that lasted the whole match, and STILL had the highest fitness by the end of it. :P)

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:45
Also, while I haven't fully watched the match, the ultimate proof would be if you could upload save data. That would allow people to analyse the fitness of the other players, and so on. Of course, it would take a while to upload save data, so obviously it's up to you if you want to. :)

peter-evo
21-12-2008, 22:48
Also, while I haven't fully watched the match, the ultimate proof would be if you could upload save data. That would allow people to analyse the fitness of the other players, and so on. Of course, it would take a while to upload save data, so obviously it's up to you if you want to. :)
Why should he have to go through all this, at the end of the day he won.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:49
i will if anyone is interested any can also tell me how to :)

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:50
they've had no games and no friendlys.

That would explain it, except Aaron Ramsey starts on 96.


Why should he have to go through all this, at the end of the day he won.

Of course, he won. But as I said above:


I don't mind other people cheating in their game if they want. I have nothing against it at all. But there's no point in coming and boasting on a forum about a result if you have cheated in order to obtain said result. Anyway, I'm about to watch the .pkm now, so we'll see. If there was no cheating, then it was a hell of an achievement.

ChewyFun
21-12-2008, 22:51
You'd have to be particularly stupid (or attention-hungry) to Cheat massively to win a mere Friendly and then brag about it just cos you can. It's very possible that everything here is above-board.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:52
Show us Arsenal's fixtures then their U18's


i will if anyone is interested any 'can also tell me how to :)

if you tell me how, its yours

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:52
i will if anyone is interested any can also tell me how to :)

Alright guy. All you do is save the game into a folder of your choice, and then upload it to the filesharing site of your choice (www.rapidshare.de should be fine, but make sure you register for a free account first, otherwise it will disappear after 10 downloads. Alternatively, Megaupload should work), and then post the link here. It will take a while to upload, and take quite a bit of bandwidth, so you really don't have to if you don't want to.

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 22:56
We've already seen the final player stats and formation screens. Here's the Match Stats (http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5254/12212008225541mg9.jpg) screen, for those that are interested.

gufc21
21-12-2008, 22:59
so the brazilian league has invented some sort of time capsule on football manager 09 what lets you go either 1 year back or 1 year forward? slick :cool:

you are such an idiot, not all leagues follow the epl structure, eg. the irish league runs from march to november and you can choose to start in February 2008 or February 2009. I don't know when the brazilian league runs but it prob runs earlier. Its not like he would go through all the trouble of faking something like that and putting a fake date in

Cityull
21-12-2008, 22:59
The_Hull_upload.fm (18 MB) (http://e.imagehost.org/download/8793/The_Hull_upload)

this may work :)

bandi15
21-12-2008, 23:01
Wow, 17 CCC's, that's pretty amazing. I don't know how good those randomly generated kids are and I don't really consider that an Arsenal team, but 17 CCC's is nice, whoever you play against.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 23:03
thanks bandi

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 23:05
The_Hull_upload.fm (18 MB) (http://e.imagehost.org/download/8793/The_Hull_upload)

this may work :)

I get an error:

"Error: file The_Hull_upload not found."

Cityull
21-12-2008, 23:05
ah bugger, sorry then i did what you said

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 23:12
ah bugger, sorry then i did what you said
Maybe they removed it? Try uploading it to Megaupload?

bored101
21-12-2008, 23:13
i think the bookies fixed it! think of the odds you would get for that result. ok maybe the odds would be next to nothing now but back in 2007 they must have been good.

Cityull
21-12-2008, 23:14
Maybe they removed it? Try uploading it to Megaupload?

can't be arsed now mate, if you don't believe it the i don't mind but its true.

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 23:16
can't be arsed now mate, if you don't believe it the i don't mind but its true.
Hey, like I say, I know uploading the whole save file can be a hassle, hence why I always said it was fine if you didn't want to for whatever reason. :)

Cityull
21-12-2008, 23:17
ok no probs mate

Timmy Howard
21-12-2008, 23:23
Im sorry but kopitelewis you are an idiot (in a nice way x).

If you select the Brazilian League you can chose to start it In 07. How is that so hard to comprehend?

tomsmith1989
21-12-2008, 23:23
Well done mate. To prove all those 'haters' wrong, maybe posting arsene wengers history/achievements will show that there were no adding of managers taking place??

apologies if this has already been covered...

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 23:26
Well done mate. To prove all those 'haters' wrong, maybe posting arsene wengers history/achievements will show that there were no adding of managers taking place??

apologies if this has already been covered...

Yeah, don't worry guy, we're not accusing him of adding a second human manager. In fact, I can pretty much guarantee he didn't.

Schotsmannetje
21-12-2008, 23:35
Looks perfectly legit to me.

It's not his fault that it's possible to start a EPL game in December-2007. It's a flaw in the game. Period. I've noticed the same thing before. When I wanted to start a game as manager of Brazil, I loaded the Brazilian and English leagues as playable + all the players from nation: Brazil. I was very shocked that I had the possibility to start a game as an English club in December 2007. Just makes no sense to me AT ALL.

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/schotsmannetje/Picture5.png

The lack of fitness can be explained by the fact that when you start a game at december-2007 in England it takes half a year before the teams start playing games. That's a flaw in FM.

george94
21-12-2008, 23:35
I've just replicated a similar game to the one the OP did. I started in Brazil in December 07, became Hull manager and arranged a friendly with Arsenal on Boxing Day. I let the assistant pick the team and waited for the final score:

[img=http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1674/hullfs7.th.jpg] (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hullfs7.jpg)

Arsenal fielded a team of random kids except for Ramsey, exactly like in the OP's match:

[img=http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8996/hull2mz4.th.jpg] (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hull2mz4.jpg)

It really did happen and he wasn't cheating as such, but there is no skill at all to a victory like this, I did nothing unusual and left the tactics as a normal 4-4-2. So stop calling him a cheat as he did nothing wrong, however there is no reason to be proud of such a win.

Schotsmannetje
21-12-2008, 23:39
I've just replicated a similar game to the one the OP did. I started in Brazil in December 07, became Hull manager and arranged a friendly with Arsenal on Boxing Day. I let the assistant pick the team and waited for the final score:

[img=http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1674/hullfs7.th.jpg] (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hullfs7.jpg)

Arsenal fielded a team of random kids except for Ramsey, exactly like in the OP's match:

[img=http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8996/hull2mz4.th.jpg] (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hull2mz4.jpg)

It really did happen and he wasn't cheating as such, but there is no skill at all to a victory like this, I did nothing unusual and left the tactics as a normal 4-4-2. So stop calling him a cheat as he did nothing wrong, however there is no reason to be proud of such a win.

No it's nothing to be proud of, but it's peculiar nonetheless that it's possible to start at december-2007 when playing in the EPL, even if you also select Brazil as a league. It makes no sense to me why that is possible. The only reason I can come up with is that it provides you with more options when you start unemployed.

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 23:39
I've just replicated a similar game to the one the OP did. I started in Brazil in December 07, became Hull manager and arranged a friendly with Arsenal on Boxing Day. I let the assistant pick the team and waited for the final score:

[img=http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1674/hullfs7.th.jpg] (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hullfs7.jpg)

Arsenal fielded a team of random kids except for Ramsey, exactly like in the OP's match:

[img=http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8996/hull2mz4.th.jpg] (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hull2mz4.jpg)

It really did happen and he wasn't cheating as such, but there is no skill at all to a victory like this, I did nothing unusual and left the tactics as a normal 4-4-2. So stop calling him a cheat as he did nothing wrong, however there is no reason to be proud of such a win.

That's really unusual.

There was an issue a few years back with the quality of "created" players for matches, except it was that they were too good (many people had this issue playing against Italian teams). Now it seems that things are the other way around. If other people are able to replicate this, perhaps this does need bringing up in the Bugs forum after all.

george94
21-12-2008, 23:40
Why don't you try it and see if you get the same results?

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 23:46
Why don't you try it and see if you get the same results?
A few reasons.

Firstly, I don't doubt you at all, and if two people are able to replicate something like this, that's good enough for me.
Secondly, I'm getting kinda tired.
Thirdly, I'm engrossed in the snooker. :P

Cityull
21-12-2008, 23:50
oh i forgot about the snooker cheers!!:)

Dreaded Walrus
21-12-2008, 23:50
oh i forgot about the snooker cheers!!:)

Final frame is starting! Hurry up! ;)

Boaz_Myhills_Left_Glove
21-12-2008, 23:51
I've just started up a game with similar conditions: Brazil and England selected, December 2007 start. Took over Hull, made a friendly with Arsenal. I can confirm this isn't fake, I won 16-0. For some reason the game created a squad of really terrible greyed-out players (eg. one defender had 1 heading, 4 marking, 3 tackling! And they were all that bad...) for the match with 66 or 67% condition, apart from Ramsey, just like the OPs game. I ended up playing 4-3-3 (that's four midfielders, three attacking midfielders and three strikers :D). So yes, in conclusion, this isn't fake at all, just the game being a bit crazy.

Jirki88
21-12-2008, 23:56
Just that it's circumstances where the result is "fake". Where Arsenal have gray players that's that sucky that they could as well play for some tenth division team. Yet he goes on here to brag about it. I still call it fake, and I don't think he should get any credit for it... Except for finding this 'bug' perhaps.

jams1234
21-12-2008, 23:57
FFS what's up with these forums ATM.

Every person that's done something slightly unrealiztic or has completed a great acheivement gets labelled a cheat and have to 'prove' themselves by uploading screenies and games.

Shouldn't people wait to judge? Innocent before proven guilty. Yesterday some guy posted about getting Bojan on a free, and despite giving good proof that he didn't cheat with screenies, etc, everyone Ganged up on him and said he was a cheat. Then today it was proved he was not cheatin all along. Where are the accusers then?

And in this thread, a player does a fine acheivement, posts it online because he's happy and just gets slated for it.

Even if people do cheat, which is not often at least that people boast about, who cares? It's their game, let them play it how they wish!

Cityull
22-12-2008, 00:02
If something unusual happens then other question it, understandably though.

Bubsa
22-12-2008, 00:05
This community is as bad as FM09's match engine.

dave byrd
22-12-2008, 00:16
[QUOTE=Bubsa;2343888]This community is as bad as FM09's match engine.[/QUO

That's just untrue.

Kain
22-12-2008, 00:28
FFS what's up with these forums ATM.

Every person that's done something slightly unrealiztic or has completed a great acheivement gets labelled a cheat and have to 'prove' themselves by uploading screenies and games.

Shouldn't people wait to judge? Innocent before proven guilty. Yesterday some guy posted about getting Bojan on a free, and despite giving good proof that he didn't cheat with screenies, etc, everyone Ganged up on him and said he was a cheat. Then today it was proved he was not cheatin all along. Where are the accusers then?

And in this thread, a player does a fine acheivement, posts it online because he's happy and just gets slated for it.

Even if people do cheat, which is not often at least that people boast about, who cares? It's their game, let them play it how they wish!

Tbf, in the past, there have been people who cheated, only to come on the forum and boasted about their achievements, or complained about there being a bug allowing them to do it. I'm not saying its right that everybody jumps down people's throats as soon as they post something like this (iirc, its the 3rd time in the month that its happened and the original poster has been proven right), but surely you can understand people being a bit skeptical about it?

Dreaded Walrus
22-12-2008, 00:32
Tbf, in the past, there have been people who cheated, only to come on the forum and boasted about their achievements, or complained about there being a bug allowing them to do it. I'm not saying its right that everybody jumps down people's throats as soon as they post something like this (iirc, its the 3rd time in the month that its happened and the original poster has been proven right), but surely you can understand people being a bit skeptical about it?

Yeah. I was quite neutral about it, until I saw the player ratings screen, which to me looked exactly like someone had used an editor to make all the opposition tired. Seeing as it's been replicated now though, I'd like to apologise for the accusation of cheating.

Cityull
22-12-2008, 00:35
no worries mate :)

good snooker match want it mate :)

SmurfDude
22-12-2008, 00:35
Cheating or not, who really cares, the whole thread is a complete waste of space

NepentheZ
22-12-2008, 00:37
I want to see more people try :p

2 people getting 18-0.

Why are Arsenal able to create a friendly on that day? Surely they have a league fixture.

Dreaded Walrus
22-12-2008, 00:52
I want to see more people try :p

2 people getting 18-0.

Why are Arsenal able to create a friendly on that day? Surely they have a league fixture.

For some reason, rather than "simming through" the English season until December 2007, the English season just doesn't start. The teams have a completely empty fixtures page, bar the friendlies against me.

I'm currently recreating this, and more.

Here were my results (I've been on holiday the whole time):

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6665/12222008004521fe9.jpg

Interestingly, the teams do have all their regular players, all on ~95 fitness, yet for some reason it creates a bunch of greys for the match (just as with the issue people used to have with, for example, Italian teams when they had a small database. Except rather than being superhuman, they are rubbish).

Screenies of their first teams (the greys are created solely for the match, and disappear straight after it, so they don't appear on these screenshots)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9469/12222008004801jg4.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4408/12222008004817sh3.jpg
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/5307/12222008004953zu0.jpg
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/277/12222008005027uq2.jpg

So the thing isn't just for Hull v Arsenal, and given the nature of the bug I'm pretty much certain it isn't just for Hull. You could use any English team (I'm willing to bet any Brazilian team, too). It probably has something to do with them having no fixtures, though I'm not sure what. The rest of the players ARE there on match day, just none of them are selected...

NepentheZ
22-12-2008, 00:55
Unreal. Glad the OP's name has been cleared now. I can't stand it when I get accused of cheating and I haven't.

See : Andrew Smylie.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/NepentheZ/Knockbreda/Season%2027/Smylie.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/NepentheZ/Knockbreda/Season%2028/Smylie.jpg

Simply brilliant, I know.

Dreaded Walrus
22-12-2008, 01:01
Unreal. Glad the OP's name has been cleared now. I can't stand it when I get accused of cheating and I haven't.

See : Andrew Smylie.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/NepentheZ/Knockbreda/Season%2027/Smylie.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/NepentheZ/Knockbreda/Season%2028/Smylie.jpg

Simply brilliant, I know.

I like his name/facegen combination the most.

I've actually had an interestingly-named (http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/678/12222008005911yc9.jpg) Newgen show up in my first season in my own game. Actually looks a little bit like a young version of the real thing (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2137/2316251089_e72bae2251.jpg?v=0), too!

Although I suppose it depends on the angle (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3285/2317058548_f3e715606a.jpg?v=0)... :P

NepentheZ
22-12-2008, 01:03
I like his name/facegen combination the most.

I've actually had an interestingly-named (http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/678/12222008005911yc9.jpg) Newgen show up in my first season in my own game. Actually looks a little bit like a young version of the real thing (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2137/2316251089_e72bae2251.jpg?v=0), too!

Although I suppose it depends on the angle (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3285/2317058548_f3e715606a.jpg?v=0)... :P


Haha. Yea, she looks nothing like him ;)

Dreaded Walrus
22-12-2008, 01:05
(Just in case anyone wonders where I got the images, I'm not posting private images or anything - they're publicly viewable, here (http://blogs.sega.com/europe/2008/03/07/qa-with-football-manager-live-product-manager-marc-duffy/). Don't want to get in trouble or anything.)

Schotsmannetje
22-12-2008, 01:54
Cheating or not, who really cares, the whole thread is a complete waste of space

I completely disagree. The OP has, without intending to, proven that it's possible to start a game at december-2007 as e.g. Manchester United, meaning that you have 8 months to prepare your team for the first season. Surely, that's a major bug in the game as that shouldn't be possible.

Ozzy38
22-12-2008, 01:55
Serious Business.

4457
22-12-2008, 02:17
It's just an exploit. Doesn't actually affect league results, does it? Reading through I was sceptical at first too but it's obviously been proven. Can't actually say "well done" to the OP though if it's going to be this common. :D

Schotsmannetje
22-12-2008, 02:31
imagine what you could achieve in 8 months of pre-season training :D

Chochip
22-12-2008, 03:07
What is all the fuss about?
1. The early start thing was always there. And it's not really an issue but a matter of opinion. If you are not going to start as a Brazilian team, then you don't select their preseason time. If you do, then you just made the game less fun for yourself.

2. So what if the score is 18-0? Arsenal lined up their weakest U18 players. Not really surprising. Teams do this all the time in friendlies in FM09.

4457
22-12-2008, 03:15
Chochip: You missed the point totally, I think.

aiston
22-12-2008, 03:18
Unreal. Glad the OP's name has been cleared now. I can't stand it when I get accused of cheating and I haven't.

See : Andrew Smylie.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/NepentheZ/Knockbreda/Season%2027/Smylie.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/NepentheZ/Knockbreda/Season%2028/Smylie.jpg

Simply brilliant, I know.

Cannot see the fun in cheating like this, but oh well each to their own game.

ubos
22-12-2008, 06:33
394 goals in 120 appearances?

twist_twist
22-12-2008, 07:48
Easy the make a player score a easy 3-6 goals a game just change players fitness to 29634, then they run around like headless chickens and easily win 10+ a time

Les Girondins
22-12-2008, 07:49
In ten years of FM/CM I have never seen a result like that. Ever.

This leads me to suggest either the odds are infinately long or people cheat.

The only time I have seen high scores is when a two goalies are injured or sent off.

he_man2003
22-12-2008, 08:02
or maybe those arsenal players are not even their u-18; have had this kind of bug before 9.2.0...don't know if it's already fixed

AcidBurn
22-12-2008, 08:10
This is great all the people calling him a cheat and it seems that he hasnt cheated at all. 190 goals in one season thats just amazing, how did you get someone to score that many goals?

TH14Gooner
22-12-2008, 08:12
In ten years of FM/CM I have never seen a result like that. Ever.

This leads me to suggest either the odds are infinately long or people cheat.

The only time I have seen high scores is when a two goalies are injured or sent off.

If you'd read the whole thread then things might make sense, rather than just trolling

Les Girondins
22-12-2008, 08:12
This is great all the people calling him a cheat and it seems that he hasnt cheated at all. 190 goals in one season thats just amazing, how did you get someone to score that many goals?

Want to buy some magic beans? :D

AcidBurn
22-12-2008, 08:21
Want to buy some magic beans? :D

I think Elding, Zola, O'Conner and Baudet could do with them.

Jimbokav1971
22-12-2008, 08:29
Cannot see the fun in cheating like this, but oh well each to their own game.

pmsl.

Yeah. That NepentheZ is a cheater cheater cheater. He should go in the challenge forums and go up against some of the guys in there and we would really find out how good he is.

Oh wait...... :confused:

That is where he posts.

And I actually know that he's not cheating.

Aiston you buffoon! and anyone else who is accusing Nep of cheating.

He is managing in the N.Ireland Leagues and is quite far into the game. His team are challenging for European honours and he hammers all domestic rivals.

The whole lot of you in this thread make me laugh with all the accusations of cheating.

Next you will tell me that my FM08 GK didn't score 119 goals:D.

ism-scfc
22-12-2008, 09:33
I think Elding, Zola, O'Conner and Baudet could do with them.

Elding - that name brings back memories. He was both quality and absolutely shocking at the same time. Still, i'd rather have him that that fat lump Davies (even if he did get a hattrick on saturday)

Anyway, I take it you're a Crewe fan - 3-0:D

AcidBurn
22-12-2008, 09:43
Elding - that name brings back memories. He was both quality and absolutely shocking at the same time. Still, i'd rather have him that that fat lump Davies (even if he did get a hattrick on saturday)

Anyway, I take it you're a Crewe fan - 3-0:D

lol I am a Sunderland fan but live near to Crewe and get free tickets to their games so go to watch all their home games, so they are my 2nd team. Good job the tickets are free lol.

9sublime
22-12-2008, 10:11
If you started in 2007, then some teams are not going to be playing a competitive fixture for a year. Wouldn't reccommend it, has the potential to adversley effect player quality.

kopitelewis
22-12-2008, 10:12
****ing hell i take back what i just said. i did what you did but started with nottingham forest and just beat birmingham 12-0. and after a bit of trial and error i realised what i was confused about with the brazillian league. mate, i take back what i said this does look proper. im just not good at understanding things. :(

CaptainPlanet
22-12-2008, 10:25
If a thread ever summed up the GQ forum attitude at the moment, this is it.

I'm shocked and embarrased.

OP: Good random find, although I wouldn't book loads of friendlies in just to make money myself this is a really weird find!

peter-evo
22-12-2008, 11:37
If a thread ever summed up the GQ forum attitude at the moment, this is it.

I'm shocked and embarrased.

OP: Good random find, although I wouldn't book loads of friendlies in just to make money myself this is a really weird find!
I agree, why would someone go through the effort of cheating, just to show the players were all poor grey players. Get a grip lads.

matt4ani
22-12-2008, 11:48
and cheated...

Niall_The_Miller
22-12-2008, 11:56
To be fair regardless of whether he's cheated or not, his efforts at defending himself have been so valiant I think he deserves credit. I'd have just wilted after the first question and admitted I'd made it all up before crawling next to the radiator, curling up into the fetal position and weeping softly.

Schotsmannetje
22-12-2008, 12:46
To be fair regardless of whether he's cheated or not, his efforts at defending himself have been so valiant I think he deserves credit. I'd have just wilted after the first question and admitted I'd made it all up before crawling next to the radiator, curling up into the fetal position and weeping softly.

Now that's honesty!

DanGLiverpool
22-12-2008, 12:51
Well, someone could do this, thrash all them teams, and their morale when they start would be sky high. So it is a good idea to start in 07. Also it's a good way to see if any reserves/U18's are good enough for first team football.

Congratulations anyway Cityull.

virtualjim26
22-12-2008, 12:55
u cheated cos u cant have a goalkeepers condition 65 unless he started with a injury
****IN CHEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

DanGLiverpool
22-12-2008, 12:56
u cheated cos u cant have a goalkeepers condition 65 unless he started with a injury
****IN CHEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all, welcome to the board, first message, although not the very best start it could be said:rolleyes:

Also, just a thought, have you read through the whole thread?

If not, do so, I did, and I know more now.:thup:

Jimbokav1971
22-12-2008, 12:57
u cheated cos u cant have a goalkeepers condition 65 unless he started with a injury
****IN CHEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol

No. He didn't:D.

DanGLiverpool
22-12-2008, 13:02
He did not cheat, because if you don't play a match for a long time, condition is going to be poor. That is obvious.

CaptainPlanet
22-12-2008, 14:02
Can't believe that only got a 10 point infraction...

bod1035
22-12-2008, 14:15
What a weird exploit, may have to try this. Think how well drilled you could make your team with 8 months of pre season, although would be a pretty boring 8 months.

stelletjelichten
22-12-2008, 14:28
Hahaha, that's so obvious it was cheating.
The screenshot where he showed the line-ups, as you can see most of the substitutions were made on 45th 59th and 75th minutes.
Now by my over 10 years of playing manager games, i have yet to see an AI manager making 3-4-5 substitutions at once, and in opposite i, as human do it a lot because i don't really have nerves to go to the tactics every 2 minutes, which AI managers seem to do.
Shame on trying to get glory with a cheat, a lot immature.

That's bull.
I played a friendly vs Sochaux, they subbed in the 58th minute, 8 subs at once.
Guess you haven't paid much attention to the game in your 10 years of playing manager games.

Schotsmannetje
22-12-2008, 15:02
What a weird exploit, may have to try this. Think how well drilled you could make your team with 8 months of pre season, although would be a pretty boring 8 months.

Yeah that's what I've been saying all along. It gives you a huge advantage, if you plan the pre-season training right. Imagine how much your youths could improve in 8 months. Also, you could train them in playing in a different position. Not that I ever use that option (apparently it destroys loads of PA), but still.

**LFC**
22-12-2008, 15:13
Upload a screene of your news...that'll prove if you have been hired to Arsenal....i believe you though :)

4457
22-12-2008, 15:15
Read through the thread before replying and accusing the OP, please.

TigerTime
22-12-2008, 15:20
http://e.imagehost.org/0531/rating.jpg

http://e.imagehost.org/0096/formations.jpg

No wonder you won 18-0 :D

IkerFMD
22-12-2008, 15:21
1. New Game started in DECEMBER 2007 with Brazilian and English leagues running...That bit is possible

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/9479/startll6.jpg

2. However: Arsenal's fixtures when a game is started.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/931/arsepb6.jpg

There is a league game on December 26th so how do you explain that?

SCIAG
22-12-2008, 15:23
In ten years of FM/CM I have never seen a result like that. Ever.

This leads me to suggest either the odds are infinately long or people cheat.

The only time I have seen high scores is when a two goalies are injured or sent off.
In that case, you haven't played FM much at all.

I won 32-1 or something. against a random Bulgarian side in the Intertoto Cup when I was Real Madrid (in FM07). I didn't have the Bulgarian league active and I don't have the foggiest how to use FMM. They were just so terrible and we were so good.

4457
22-12-2008, 15:27
There is a league game on December 26th so how do you explain that?

The league game is on Dec 26, 2008. A friendly can be arranged for Dec 26, 2007.

Sad Git
22-12-2008, 15:37
Shouldn't people wait to judge? Innocent before proven guilty. Yesterday some guy posted about getting Bojan on a free, and despite giving good proof that he didn't cheat with screenies, etc, everyone Ganged up on him and said he was a cheat. Then today it was proved he was not cheatin all along. Where are the accusers then?

It would be nice to see the baying mob make an unreserved apology to the OP, now that he's proved himself to have been telling the truth all along. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

BOC
22-12-2008, 16:11
It's easy enough. Don't understand all the doubts. I tinkered a bit with my tactics and hey presto even bigger win:-

http://www.systemdotweb.com/107_nil.jpg

PaulHartman71
22-12-2008, 16:17
It's easy enough. Don't understand all the doubts. I tinkered a bit with my tactics and hey presto even bigger win:-

http://www.systemdotweb.com/107_nil.jpg

awful editing :thdn:

CaptainPlanet
22-12-2008, 16:19
It's easy enough. Don't understand all the doubts. I tinkered a bit with my tactics and hey presto even bigger win:-

http://www.systemdotweb.com/107_nil.jpg

Epic Fail.

....

bnurpo
22-12-2008, 16:23
1. Why does every other person turn on the OP with complaints they'd never have had, if they had only read the whole post.

2. It's obviously a joke people... I think 'Wenger "didn't see" 54 penalty incidents', is pretty funny tbh.

BOC
22-12-2008, 16:28
2. It's obviously a joke people... I think 'Wenger "didn't see" 54 penalty incidents', is pretty funny tbh.

Glad someone spotted the intentional "Epic Fail".

bandi15
22-12-2008, 16:30
Who needs a sense of humor when you are so good at spotting editing mistakes?

digsy11
22-12-2008, 16:40
FFS what's up with these forums ATM.

Every person that's done something slightly unrealiztic or has completed a great acheivement gets labelled a cheat and have to 'prove' themselves by uploading screenies and games.

Shouldn't people wait to judge? Innocent before proven guilty. Yesterday some guy posted about getting Bojan on a free, and despite giving good proof that he didn't cheat with screenies, etc, everyone Ganged up on him and said he was a cheat. Then today it was proved he was not cheatin all along. Where are the accusers then?

And in this thread, a player does a fine acheivement, posts it online because he's happy and just gets slated for it.

Even if people do cheat, which is not often at least that people boast about, who cares? It's their game, let them play it how they wish!

On my save Blackburn got Bojan on a free in the second season!

digsy11
22-12-2008, 16:43
Unreal. Glad the OP's name has been cleared now. I can't stand it when I get accused of cheating and I haven't.

See : Andrew Smylie.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/NepentheZ/Knockbreda/Season%2027/Smylie.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/NepentheZ/Knockbreda/Season%2028/Smylie.jpg

Simply brilliant, I know.

How the hell as he scored so many goals? that's amazing.

Jimbokav1971
22-12-2008, 16:44
Becoming a dominant force in N.Ireland.

digsy11
22-12-2008, 16:48
He's pretty **** at International level though :p

NepentheZ
22-12-2008, 16:53
Cannot see the fun in cheating like this, but oh well each to their own game.


Easy the make a player score a easy 3-6 goals a game just change players fitness to 29634, then they run around like headless chickens and easily win 10+ a time

please read the following :D


pmsl.

Yeah. That NepentheZ is a cheater cheater cheater. He should go in the challenge forums and go up against some of the guys in there and we would really find out how good he is.

Oh wait...... :confused:

That is where he posts.

And I actually know that he's not cheating.

Aiston you buffoon! and anyone else who is accusing Nep of cheating.

He is managing in the N.Ireland Leagues and is quite far into the game. His team are challenging for European honours and he hammers all domestic rivals.

The whole lot of you in this thread make me laugh with all the accusations of cheating.

Next you will tell me that my FM08 GK didn't score 119 goals:D.

Ha, yea, you cheating son of a bit.......... 119 goals my ass. ;)



394 goals in 120 appearances?



This is great all the people calling him a cheat and it seems that he hasnt cheated at all. 190 goals in one season thats just amazing, how did you get someone to score that many goals?

As Jimbo mentioned, I was very far into the game, the 3036/37 season on that latest screenshot. I was so dominant in N. Ireland, literally winning most games 10-0 or better. I hadn't lost a league game in over 13 years, and a domestic game in even longer. However, I couldn't crack Europe for the life of me, and the furthest I got was the Last 16 of the Champions League.

Zoulpain
22-12-2008, 17:02
Pretty easy to win when they use non-existing players.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2rq2fet.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/29moe0y.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/taggfa.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/b4vtw5.jpg

AcidBurn
22-12-2008, 17:29
As Jimbo mentioned, I was very far into the game, the 3036/37 season on that latest screenshot. I was so dominant in N. Ireland, literally winning most games 10-0 or better. I hadn't lost a league game in over 13 years, and a domestic game in even longer. However, I couldn't crack Europe for the life of me, and the furthest I got was the Last 16 of the Champions League.

Who are Knockbreda I thought they were Dutch. I wish I had the will to do a game like that would be so cool but I just hate not having millions to spend lol.

Jirki88
22-12-2008, 17:54
It would be nice to see the baying mob make an unreserved apology to the OP, now that he's proved himself to have been telling the truth all along. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

He's telling the truth, sure, but the thread is still boasting and it's not even a "fair play win", since that is in extraordinary circumstances. Had it been a real game, I'd been really impressed, but in a game where Arsenal play with undertrained, exhausted grays? ********. No glory in that win.

kopitelewis
22-12-2008, 18:04
wow this is still going......

englandmanager
22-12-2008, 18:12
who cares i beat farsley celtic 4-2


i was leeds utd now that was an achievement

NepentheZ
22-12-2008, 18:34
Who are Knockbreda I thought they were Dutch. I wish I had the will to do a game like that would be so cool but I just hate not having millions to spend lol.

Knocbreda are a N. Irish side, below the NI 2nd division :p

NAC Breda are the Dutch side. :D

Kain
22-12-2008, 19:14
As Jimbo mentioned, I was very far into the game, the 3036/37 season on that latest screenshot. I was so dominant in N. Ireland, literally winning most games 10-0 or better. I hadn't lost a league game in over 13 years, and a domestic game in even longer. However, I couldn't crack Europe for the life of me, and the furthest I got was the Last 16 of the Champions League.
My Southampton side could be playing in Northern Ireland and wouldn't rack up that many goals between them. :(

Arsenal_Fan_1986
22-12-2008, 19:30
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....... FM09 = Fantasy Manager 2009! Sorry.. well done :p

Bubsa
23-12-2008, 04:42
wow this is still going......

Yes, we're all having a giggle at your previous.

tomtuck01
23-12-2008, 04:47
A little part of me has just died inside after seeing that such a pointless thread could amass 3 pages in such a short space of time. :(

Ozzy38
23-12-2008, 11:41
A little part of me has just died inside after seeing that such a pointless thread could amass 3 pages in such a short space of time. :(

You should've seen what happened when a (guy pretending to be a) girl posted a topic. It got something like 8,000 posts in 24 hours, 1,000 in an hour. It really did not help the PC gamer/forum user stereotype and was pretty sad quite frankly.

CaptainPlanet
23-12-2008, 11:44
http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=72106

:D

Ozzy38
23-12-2008, 11:50
Ok, remove a zero from my numbers then.

Schotsmannetje
23-12-2008, 16:20
Ah that thread was a classic one.

harrylee
23-12-2008, 16:23
i dont even regconsise 90% of the arse team...hmmm

4457
23-12-2008, 16:25
Read through the thread before jumping to conclusions.

BillyMysterio
23-12-2008, 16:47
Leave the guy alone! I beat Hansa Rostock 9-0 away as Leeds in 2012-2013. I have good players etc. good tactics but 9-0 was just immense! It was all just going right!

As you can see he beat Arsenal (U18s) 18-0. Fair play to the lad. I believe him and I know that you can go 'back in time' because I have done it previously.

ahmufcwafc
23-12-2008, 17:12
Cityull, I've just gone one better than you in a competetive match (mind, it was against a rubbish team) :D
http://i39.tinypic.com/id9hcn.jpg

AcidBurn
24-12-2008, 16:21
Knocbreda are a N. Irish side, below the NI 2nd division :p

NAC Breda are the Dutch side. :D

Now it all makes sense lol.