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Les Girondins
21-12-2008, 20:33
Djurgardens IF has a stadium capacity of 13800 (all seater)
Yet my average attendance is 15385 ...?

How is that possible?

ahmufcwafc
21-12-2008, 20:34
That must be a bug surely.

TomHAVFC
21-12-2008, 20:34
Are you having your stadium expanded at the moment?

Les Girondins
21-12-2008, 20:38
Are you having your stadium expanded at the moment?

No .. I asked but its a national bloody monument (built 1912 and Djurgarden is a national park) and the reply was a categorical no.

http://www.conica.basf.com/SiteCollectionImages/References/Tracks%20IAAF%20Class%201/SE-stockholm-olympiastadion1.jpg

Which again bugged me because IRL they are looking at removing the running pitch and trippling the capacity.

When the other 'big' teams in the league have 45000 all seater stadiums, you'd think the local council would accept something needed to be ironed out to keep the club competative. Ho hum.

kopitelewis
21-12-2008, 20:38
are you charging people who walk near the stadium at the moment?

Jirki88
21-12-2008, 20:38
I guess it could be boosted if the games vs AIK and Hammarby on Råsunda counts, they usually fill out there, and it's much larger than Stockholms Stadion?

Jirki88
21-12-2008, 20:39
No .. I asked but its a national bloody monument (built 1912 and Djurgarden is a national park) and the reply was a categorical no.

http://www.conica.basf.com/SiteCollectionImages/References/Tracks%20IAAF%20Class%201/SE-stockholm-olympiastadion1.jpg

Which again bugged me because IRL they are looking at removing the running pitch and trippling the capacity.

When the other 'big' teams in the league have 45000 all seater stadiums, you'd think the local council would accept something needed to be ironed out to keep the club competative. Ho hum.

IRL they're looking to remove them, but there's no fortune so far. Culturemarked and that crap. They're looking for places to build a brand new arena too.

CrashOverride
21-12-2008, 20:40
Maybe there just sat on deck chairs on the running track?

TomHAVFC
21-12-2008, 20:45
I really don't know then.

Andy Macca
21-12-2008, 20:51
The average attendences are higher because they play the derbies against the other teams from Stockholm (AIK and Hammarby) on the national stadium Råsunda which has a capacity of 34000.

Les Girondins
21-12-2008, 20:51
Hmm the attendances in the entire allsvenskan league appear to be broken ..

Check this out:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7159/swedenuv1.jpg


That doesn't really make any sense?

AIK have a 37000 all seater
Malmo have 24000
Hammarby 16000
Elfsborg have 16000 also ...

Yet the average attendences are all very close. With mine being higher than the actual number of seats and the big clubs drawing only 50% capacity in contrast to the minnows who are 75% full every game.

Weird!

Les Girondins
21-12-2008, 20:52
The average attendences are higher because they play the derbies against the other teams from Stockholm (AIK and Hammarby) on the national stadium Råsunda which has a capacity of 34000.

Jirki88/Andy: Ahah! Yes. I checked the match info and it is indeed Rasunda.
Attendance at the last match was 36500 ..

Explains it.

Thanks. :)

Nilsson
21-12-2008, 21:03
The attendances are about the same as in real life, and your original question is already answered.

Andy Macca
21-12-2008, 21:09
Hmm the attendances in the entire allsvenskan league appear to be broken ..

Check this out:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7159/swedenuv1.jpg


That doesn't really make any sense?

AIK have a 37000 all seater
Malmo have 24000
Hammarby 16000
Elfsborg have 16000 also ...

Yet the average attendences are all very close. With mine being higher than the actual number of seats and the big clubs drawing only 50% capacity in contrast to the minnows who are 75% full every game.

Weird!

No it's correct. Here's the real averege attendences for this season.

AIK 15 535
MAlmö 11 182
Hammarby 11 144
Helsingborg 10 497
Djurgården 10 168

Just because AIK has a stadium that can hold 36 000 that doesn't mean they sell it out every game. The smaller clubs in Sweden has smaller stadiums and that is why they more often sell out their stadiums.

THe full statistics can be found here (Swedish FA): http://www.svenskfotboll.se/t3allLi.aspx?p=287489&scr=spl&id=14999

Les Girondins
21-12-2008, 21:15
All good stuff. Thanks guys. :D:thup:

Golaxi
21-12-2008, 23:45
sounds like a bug

4457
22-12-2008, 01:57
sounds like a bug

If you've even bothered reading the thread before replying you'd have understood why this isn't one.

phnompenhandy
22-12-2008, 04:38
This specific issue has been resolved by Andy, but I have noticed a curious feature. When I check in savegame editors I often see the database has maximum attendances set higher than stadium capacity. Wonder why.

Jimbokav1971
22-12-2008, 07:32
andy. Does that relate to the upper limit that the stadium can be expanded to without planning objection or something like that?

I have heard this mentioned in the past but can't remember the answer. Sorry.

the edge
22-12-2008, 08:00
This specific issue has been resolved by Andy, but I have noticed a curious feature. When I check in savegame editors I often see the database has maximum attendances set higher than stadium capacity. Wonder why.

From what I know, the maximum attendance is a number used to describe how many people a club could potentially attract to their games. So very roughly said, if you have a 5000 seat stadium with a maximum attendance of 5000, don't expect your board to give you a stadium expansion... However I've heard that this figure can change over time, maybe after a period of success, e.g. a BSP team made it all the way to Premier League and thus, not only does their average attendance increase but the amount of potential (max att) followers as well.

phnompenhandy
22-12-2008, 08:24
Ah I see, the number of people milling about outside the ground, bothering ticket touts and climbing trees - kinda makes sense now :)

PLF
22-12-2008, 09:45
are you charging people who walk near the stadium at the moment?

LOLllllll!