crickie Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I dont know if i will create this as a challenge but i thought we could have a team of the premierships biggest flops. The only rule is that he must be on the english database on fmh 09. This could mean that he flopped at one club but did really well somewhere else for example sidwell flopped at chelsea but was good at reading. So far Ade Akinbiyi leicester City shevchenko chelsea jeffers arsenal morientes liverpool Boumsong at Newcastle Albert Luque at Newcastle Eric Djemba-Djemba at Man Utd and Aston Villa Jon-Dahl Tomasson at Newcastle Claudio Pizarro at Chelsea Florent Malouda at Chelsea Forlan at manchester united Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Ade Akinbiyi springs to mind straight away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickie Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 Ade Akinbiyi springs to mind straight away which clubs was he the worst for in your opinion???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Leicester city Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickie Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 ive also got morientes at liverpool, jeffers at arsenal, shevchenko at chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Oooh here we go: Boumsong at Newcastle Savo Milosevic at Aston Villa (I don't know if he's on the db so you'll have to check) Albert Luque at Newcastle Eric Djemba-Djemba at Man Utd and Aston Villa Jon-Dahl Tomasson at Newcastle Claudio Pizarro at Chelsea Florent Malouda at Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickie Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 is tomasson and djemba on the database??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Don't know, I'd imagine Djemba-Djemba is. Not sure about Tomasson though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottc18 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Forlan at man u Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 i can def remember seeing djemba djemba but not sure if it was just on english db or whther it was on multi leagues. Milosevic is def not though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Ah I'm getting old Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 dont worry i can remember him too, im getting old with you mate, lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_Dave Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 How about Sean Maloney from Villa! He was pretty bad in before he got sent back to Celtic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I wouldn't have called Maloney a flop, he had his moments, scored a nice freekick or two if I remember rightly. And he wasn't signed for huge money either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
04ambroj Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 bellion at man u, technically you could say anelka, bentley and lennon for arsenal not to mention veron for man u aswell... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Are you kidding?! Anelka was a huge part of the 1998 Arsenal double winning side - definitely no flop there. And Lennon was never on Arsenal's books, are you thinking of Pennant? Veron is pretty undeniable though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorba1 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Don't know, I'd imagine Djemba-Djemba is. Not sure about Tomasson though Tomasson should be found at Feyenoord. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 dont think Veron is on the english db Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
04ambroj Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 yeah sorry pennant ... who am i thinking of then? im sure anealka was a flop for a club.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Yeah, Real Madrid - unfortunately he was pretty good for every Premier League side he's represented! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Materazzi? Ferrari? Reyes? Kuqi? Nugent? Crespo? Mutu? Def Rebrov, Voronin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Kuqi wasn't really a flop, he scored quite a few important goals at Blackburn, and Voronin was a free transfer so it's not a huge flop. Other than that I can't disagree! More I've thought of: Per Kroldrup at Everton Craig Gordon (so far at least) at Sunderland Julien Faubert at West Ham (considering the price tag) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkTrevor Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Winston Bogarde - chelsea Steve Marlet - Fulham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottc18 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Winston Bogarde - chelseaSteve Marlet - Fulham Thats going back a few years lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkTrevor Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 To be more recent, dave nugent, Gomes maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 It's ridiculous to say Gomes has been a flop already. He's got the potential certainly if his confidence dips again, but it looks like he'll pull himself out of the slump from the evidence of recent matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkTrevor Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Some say spurs are offloading him in january. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Probably the same people that are telling you Robbie Keane is going back to Spurs in January, despite it actually being against the laws of the game. 95% of what you read in the news is guff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
O\'Hara_fan Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Gomes, your basing assumptions on what he did weeks ago, since then, he's kept clean sheets, caught crosses, made that brilliant save against Man U yesterday. No way would I consider him a flop. For Spurs Helder Postiga, Bobby Zamora, Ian Walker, Gary Doherty are ones that spring to mind. Sadly, I think Ramon Vega has retired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbs87 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Has anybody mentioned Bosko Balaban for villa cost around 6mil ages ago and scored 0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Haha oh yeah I remember Balaban. He was actually a pretty decent signing back on FM06 or something if I remember! Matias Vicente Vuoso for Man City Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbs87 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Taibi for man utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4ck94 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 should have Titus Bramble - Newcastle and Hernan Crespo - Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Vaughan Posted December 16, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted December 16, 2008 Gomes' date=' your basing assumptions on what he did weeks ago, since then, he's kept clean sheets, caught crosses, made that brilliant save against Man U yesterday. No way would I consider him a flop.For Spurs Helder Postiga, Bobby Zamora, Ian Walker, Gary Doherty are ones that spring to mind. Sadly, I think Ramon Vega has retired.[/quote'] Zamora wasn't a flop imho - Spurs destroyed him and a lot of other promising young players during that period by continually messing them about and ensuring they never got a consistent run in the team ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_Dave Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Per Kroldrup at Everton Craig Gordon (so far at least) at Sunderland Julien Faubert at West Ham (considering the price tag) Craig Gordon is a terrible shout on this one. He is easily britain's best goalkeeper and he'd stroll into the england team if he was english. His only mistake was leaving scotland for a rubbish premier league side instead of playing another year or two and going to a big team. The facts from last seasons opta statistics prove it if i remember correctly he made more saves than almost any other keeper and probably kept Sunderland up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenardo Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 It's pretty much undeniable that your keeper is going to leak in a lot if your defence is, *no offence* pretty rubbish. The premiership flop of my choice is Veron for Manchested United. Look where he is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Craig Gordon is a terrible shout on this one. He is easily britain's best goalkeeper and he'd stroll into the england team if he was english. His only mistake was leaving scotland for a rubbish premier league side instead of playing another year or two and going to a big team.The facts from last seasons opta statistics prove it if i remember correctly he made more saves than almost any other keeper and probably kept Sunderland up. Gotta disagree with you there buddy, Craig Gordon has the potential to be excellent, but Britain's best keeper? I'd count David James and Chris Kirkland better for starters, plus Shay Given if you're counting Ireland as well. Mind you, (other than Given) saying you're Britain's best keeper is like saying you're the hairiest bald man. He hasn't been terrible, but he did cost around £10m IIRC, and for that money I'd expect more. He may have made a lot of saves, but he also made more than a few mistakes, and with the Sunderland defence infront of him he's bound to have more saves to make than most of the rest of the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_Dave Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I've watched craig gordon for a few years at hearts and he constantly won us points. He is incredible and without a doubt he is britains best goalkeeper. He has never made mistakes like David James he has proven at international level with scotland that he is top class also and not just in games against diddy countries. (Don't know if you are aware but we beat france TWICE). 10 million was a bargain for as good a keeper as he is especially with the rediculous value man city are trying to pay for buffon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I know, I watch a bit of Scottish football myself and I agree that for Hearts he was undoubtedly the best keeper in the SPL (Boruc possibly challenging). However, the quality of the opposition in the Premiership is a lot higher, and he has been far less impressive thus far for Sunderland. Just for comparison, the two goalkeepers I can think of who have been transferred for around the same price in the last 3 or 4 years are Petr Cech and Jose Reina, I just don't think he's come anywhere near the level of those two in his time at Sunderland so far. Also you wouldn't expect a £10m goalkeeper to be dropped by a team battling relegation (as Gordon was around this time last year). I don't have a particular axe to grind with Gordon; in fact I'd love him to succeed, I just think that for the money it's right to expect more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickie Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 i think the reason gordan was so much was because is a home grown talent. If he had being say italian for french sunderland would have only probably paid 4 or 5m for him. I do think it is alot of money for him but i wouldnt say he has being a flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottc18 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 But cech and reina have got good defences in front of them unlike gordan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickie Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 But cech and reina have got good defences in front of them unlike gordan even jamie carragher with his great own goal on saturday!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottc18 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 even jamie carragher with his great own goal on saturday!!!! Everyone makes a mistake every few hundred games lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickie Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Everyone makes a mistake every few hundred games lol it was a great finish tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 thats 2 this season though! Another not on db though Augustin Delgado from Southampton, anybody remember him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Or "George Weah's cousin" Ali Dia for Southampton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickie Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 or roque junior in his leeds spell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
04ambroj Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 to me carragher seems to score alot of own goals.. the f.a cup final being another example... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 or roque junior in his leeds spell. Haha, just a lil' flop... not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Edwards Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Florent Malouda at Chelsea???? He is quality.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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