Neji Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Why do we have to wait between asking for feeder clubs? I can understand if you are successful but if you get turned down by the club you choose, you then have to wait. It doesn't make any sense. I'm trying to loan out some of my youngsters, so I thought I'd get a feeder so I can send them there. I chose Sheffield Wednesday and they said no and now I can't ask for whatever period of time the board see fit. Instead of starting a new thread, I'll post my other question in here. Why will noone show any interest in loaning out my young players? Is anyone else having this problem? I don't feel comfortable keeping them in reserve team football and they are good enough for my league nevermind on league down but I list them for loan and no one wants to know. Even if I offer them out, no one will take them. Is it just me or are others having this problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert_Goal_Here Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I'm having similar problems, it is rather frustrating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFC Rule Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I have the same problems. Makes it very hard to nuture youngsters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
03bault Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Feeder Clubs are an issue. I think there is a waiting time to stop the player getting too many feeder clubs. I think when you request a feeder club then regardless of whether you get a feeder club or not you have to wait until whatever the time period is until you can request another one. I think that for future versions of the game you should be allowed to request another feeder club if you don't have a reccomendation from the boards selection or the feeder club rejects you. As for the loaning of my youngsters I can't say I have experienced this. I have built up a rather extensive portfolio of feeder clubs and there is always one that i find suitable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkTrevor Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I just give 'em easy cup games, european games (if we've qualified) or premier league games. That was before the game stopped working ofc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDEHLSON Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Weird... I managed to loan every youngster I had in my team except Jack Rodwell because of the weird loan rules in the English league... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Girondins Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Why do we have to wait between asking for feeder clubs?I can understand if you are successful but if you get turned down by the club you choose, you then have to wait. It doesn't make any sense. I'm trying to loan out some of my youngsters, so I thought I'd get a feeder so I can send them there. I chose Sheffield Wednesday and they said no and now I can't ask for whatever period of time the board see fit. Instead of starting a new thread, I'll post my other question in here. Why will noone show any interest in loaning out my young players? Is anyone else having this problem? I don't feel comfortable keeping them in reserve team football and they are good enough for my league nevermind on league down but I list them for loan and no one wants to know. Even if I offer them out, no one will take them. Is it just me or are others having this problem? I concur. You are falling into the lack of immersion tar pit trap that I whinge about incessantly. It simply is not logical that if you got a fax back saying, 'no ta!' your board would defer the matter for another six months. Simply having a hard coded limit on the number of affiliate clubs that is mutable by reputation, resources and commercial activity makes far more sense. Handing complete control over the process to the human player, irrespective of whether it falls within his job remit adds to immersion and detracts from frustration. You are tasked with developing your young players, there is no academy manager doing it for you: therefore you need control over the loan process. Chuck in the fact young player reputations are screwed up presently - so they won't want to go on loan anywhere half the time anyway - and you have a recipee for a lot of annoyed posts on the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
small Mac Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Why do we have to wait between asking for feeder clubs?I can understand if you are successful but if you get turned down by the club you choose, you then have to wait. It doesn't make any sense. I agree. I think this is based on the theory that if the board can't recommend a club, then it's unrealistic to ask again straight away. But this shouldn't be the case for specifically asked clubs that reject you such as Sheff Wed in your example. I feel that if you haven't reached your current feeder club limit, you should be able to ask as regularly as you like until you reach that limit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Simply having a hard coded limit on the number of affiliate clubs that is mutable by reputation, resources and commercial activity makes far more sense. Thats the thing, I think 09 does have these limits. Or similar ones, at least. So it doesn't make sense to stop me requesting again. I feel that if you haven't reached your current feeder club limit, you should be able to ask as regularly as you like until you reach that limit. I agree with you here. That should be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think the design idea is: 1, feeder clubs are powerful 2, feeder club arrangements aren't really a manager thing, they're a board thing 3, if there weren't such a limit, there would be no reason for the manager not to request a feeder club, fail, request, fail, request .. until he succeeded in getting a linkage. Therefore, the time limit, which makes sense from a "preventing the user club from growing too powerful too quickly" game-balance perspective, even if it doesn't make sense from an immersion perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Therefore, the time limit, which makes sense from a "preventing the user club from growing too powerful too quickly" game-balance perspective, even if it doesn't make sense from an immersion perspective. I don't see why that is because I wouldn't beable to grow too powerful if I didn't get a feeder club. So I wouldn't be gaining any advantage in asking again. I'd only gain an advantage if I could ask time and time again even though I succesfully made a link with another club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Neji - your club "grows" in power (adds feeder clubs) less quickly in the current form than in the proposed form. For the sake of example, lets assume its 6 months between "asks", and you have a 25% chance of succeeding in an ask. Your board will allow 4 feeder clubs; you currently have zero. If its six months between successful asks, you will reach 4 feeder clubs in 2 years. If its six months between asks, you will reach 4 feeder clubs in an average of 8 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Ahh, I see what you mean. You have a point there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 If the odds are something like 85%, instead of 25%, then the difference is negligible and the delay could be eliminated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilskeeper Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I just feel that a delay should only occur if you have been successful, like it was in 08 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 The maximum number of feeder clubs you can have is 5, by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogier1985 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I got 7 feeder clubs so thats incorrect there phnompenhandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDEHLSON Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 The maximum number of feeder clubs you can have is 5, by the way. Depends on your club's rep... with 10000 rep you can have 40 (dunno if its the max). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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