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SurvivorSoso88
01-01-2008, 13:20
The players I want to buy are not quite super-stars or wonderkids...i'm looking for experienced 26-28 year-old players (Milan like)...and if a player is valued at 5m i make a bid of let's say 7.5...and they always reject it !!! ALWAYS!! I tend to raise the bid each time...until I reach 20 m when i think to myself that it's not very wise to pay that much...i really can't buy quality players it's impossible! any tips ? I have a budget of 45 milion and want to spend it on 3-4 top players...

SurvivorSoso88
01-01-2008, 13:20
The players I want to buy are not quite super-stars or wonderkids...i'm looking for experienced 26-28 year-old players (Milan like)...and if a player is valued at 5m i make a bid of let's say 7.5...and they always reject it !!! ALWAYS!! I tend to raise the bid each time...until I reach 20 m when i think to myself that it's not very wise to pay that much...i really can't buy quality players it's impossible! any tips ? I have a budget of 45 milion and want to spend it on 3-4 top players...

gavnoble
01-01-2008, 13:42
If you want specific players who can do a good job for your team then visit the Good Player and Team Guide Forum. You'll find plenty of decent buys in there.

SurvivorSoso88
01-01-2008, 13:43
i'm in 2022 i doubt that i will find anything there

gavnoble
01-01-2008, 13:43
Addendum - it is annoying when clubs seem to want ludicrous amounts of money before they will allow you to talk to a player but if they aren't looking to sell him then you've got to be prepared to pay the big money if you really want the guy.

Tom L
01-01-2008, 13:49
If thr players are 26-28 that would mean that they are pretty close to their prime. So if they are playing regularly it would take a serious bid to buy them.

SurvivorSoso88
01-01-2008, 13:50
Here is a screenshot...unreal ! My only option is to win the title after finishing 2nd last season...winning the CL again won't help renewing my contract...so i have to buy some players to have a really strong squad...

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/686/unrealgc6.th.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unrealgc6.jpg)

Take a look at my screenshot...offers that are highlighted in red are unreal...the others I will try to raise the bid but only until 20,25 millions...i don't know what more i could do http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

B. Stinson
01-01-2008, 14:04
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">and they always reject it </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Consider yourself lucky... 'cause I can't even get that far.

Everyone I've gone for just goes to one of the other 300 teams that came and made a bid after me. http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

SurvivorSoso88
01-01-2008, 14:07
i think this is a major bug...check my latest screenshot !!! they demand 52 million -&gt; THAT's MY EXACT BUDGET !!!

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3015/ridiculouslb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

the player isn't really that good...8-|

SurvivorSoso88
01-01-2008, 14:08
sorry -&gt; here's the link

[img=http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3015/ridiculouslb3.jpg] (http://imageshack.us)

Mojby
01-01-2008, 14:09
As Tom L says, if they are regulars for their teams then it will take a lot of money to prise them away.

Your fees are in Euros as well so the GBP equivalent is probably going to be real life.

You are buying players from the likes of R Madrid and Roma so you have to expect to pay over the odds for them. Happens in real life I am afraid.

Mojby
01-01-2008, 14:10
Link not working!!

SurvivorSoso88
01-01-2008, 14:13
this is it :
Unreal request ! (http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3015/ridiculouslb3.jpg)

Tomiscool
01-01-2008, 14:24
What you have to remember is you are bidding for players because they are good and desirable! The AI aren't stupid, they don't want to lose their key players.

Also i find not setting a deadline for their response helps.

SurvivorSoso88
01-01-2008, 14:29
that's a fair point tomiscool,what i don't understand it's why do they ask for all of my budget for a player !!! They shouldn't have any clue about this...it happened with Droste (last screenshot) and it happened again...check it out...

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1641/notagainsg3.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=notagainsg3.jpg)

Rickooko
01-01-2008, 14:36
If you have a key player in your team who score 20+ goals and 20+ assists in a season for you and value at 5m.

Milan send you a bid of 5m will you accept it?
Milan send you a bid of 7.5m will you accept it?
And you might send a counter bid for 20m and hopes the Milan get off from your player?

SurvivorSoso88
01-01-2008, 14:40
this is not the only problem i have with the transfer system in this game,but anytime I want to buy a player other clubs make bidss out of nowhere,even for unknown players wich i scouted myself..and i don't even say anything in the press about my targets...

crossriver
01-01-2008, 15:22
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tomiscool:
What you have to remember is you are bidding for players because they are good and desirable! The AI aren't stupid, they don't want to lose their key players.

Also i find not setting a deadline for their response helps. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"The AI aren't stupid," Stop talking from your arse you fool, so when Manchester United ask me to pay 101 mill pound for Gabriel Heinze when i was managing Real Madrid back in FM 2007 is not stupidity?

Tomiscool
01-01-2008, 16:30
Hey, in real life some players have realease clauses of $100,000,000!
Maybe they just didnt want to sell you the player fool.

Rickooko
01-01-2008, 16:49
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crossriver:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tomiscool:
What you have to remember is you are bidding for players because they are good and desirable! The AI aren't stupid, they don't want to lose their key players.

Also i find not setting a deadline for their response helps. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"The AI aren't stupid," Stop talking from your arse you fool, so when Manchester United ask me to pay 101 mill pound for Gabriel Heinze when i was managing Real Madrid back in FM 2007 is not stupidity? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is not stupid, it just show man utd dont want to sell the player to you.

SL42
01-01-2008, 23:14
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SurvivorSoso88:
The players I want to buy are not quite super-stars or wonderkids...i'm looking for experienced 26-28 year-old players (Milan like)...and if a player is valued at 5m i make a bid of let's say 7.5...and they always reject it !!! ALWAYS!! I tend to raise the bid each time...until I reach 20 m when i think to myself that it's not very wise to pay that much...i really can't buy quality players it's impossible! any tips ? I have a budget of 45 milion and want to spend it on 3-4 top players... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So, will you sell a key player of yours for just 7.5 mil when his real value is 5 mil?

kaNovi
01-01-2008, 23:51
they want way to much, especially in long term games.. i cant even get a good established player for 80 mio euro-.. for the best players i have to pay +100mio!!!!!
So i switched tactic and buyd lots of youngsters.. but what happenes when they hid a good enough ability??? they want a new challenge(age 23-25)
come on, what am i supposed to do!!!!!!

Noob21
02-01-2008, 00:27
Unless he's a key player, it's probably a buy

I see this is a hotly debated subject, but seriously some who defend this as a reality have blinds over their eyes. Unless you're a big team and this player is a scoring machine or your captain, he's not untouchable

spoonguardreturns
02-01-2008, 00:52
Personally, if I had a player who was scoring regularly for me, and was valued at £5million, I wouldn't consider letting him go for less than about £16million, and that's being generous. I can fully understand the AI not wanting to sell to you. In fact, if I could get Cristiana Ronaldo at his prime for £30million (approximately 1.5 times his value) I would think the game was bugged.

02-01-2008, 01:09
Because you are already in season 2022 I guess you know it already, but when you set a deadline on your transfer bid the club is not so eager to let the player go and you have to make huge offers.

In FM2007, I once paid 13 million euro's for Modric, which at the time cost only 3 million euro's if you didn't set a deadline.

xouman
02-01-2008, 02:46
A good scout can tell you how much can cost you a player after scout him few times. And then make a fixed offer for the player with the minimum amount your scout has told you, otherwise seller may ask you for more money.

Nomis07
02-01-2008, 02:59
I've never had a problem siging a player, except huntelaar and that was only because he wasn't interested.

Instead of going for high profile buys who will automatically have interest from the other top teams try scouting for players that are similar but cost far less and play for lesser teams. E.g. with At. Madrid I bought Leonardo from Ajax for £652k and sold Reyes to Lyon for £17m, Leonardo has an average of 7.84.

SurvivorSoso88
02-01-2008, 03:18
Some of the comments here are interesting...and i will try to follow some of your advises...thanks

postal postie
02-01-2008, 05:46
i find it changes.
take behrami for example. some games lazio wont accept 17mill pounds.
other games i get him for 12.5mill pounds.
think he's worth about 9mill.

i bought moutinho for 16mill in the second season. i think he was worth 6mill.

shefki2008
02-01-2008, 06:05
AI hate the playing manager. I find if i bid for a player worth £10mill and offer £18mill they reject. Yet, if i take them off my shortlist...after a few days the player will sign for a club for £12mill. The clubs reject the playable managers offer yet they accept AI's offer almost all the time. It is almost impossible to buy the likes of Kaka, Messi, Puyol, Gattuso, Ibrahimovich etc etc even if you are Man Utd or Liverpool and have won the league and champs league 5 years in a row. But, i guess that's the whole fun of it.

cudman
02-01-2008, 06:11
i found it quite annoying when I was trying to sign a player valued at 2.1m and the selling club kept rejecting my bids. after it reached 17m and still rejected i just gave up.

shefki2008
02-01-2008, 06:40
Dont forget though....the bigger clubs don't need to sell there players as they have enough money. Yet, if you offered Birmingham or Bolton £8mill for a £2mill valued player, chances are you would have the bid accepted. What annoyed me was i offered Newcastle £12 mill for Owen and they rejected....in January, i offered them £14mill and the rejected, last day in January, Chelsea signed him for £9 mill. I was fuming!

George Graham
02-01-2008, 07:18
Problem as I see it, and none of this has been fixed from 06 and 07 tbh which is why its annoying is this:

1) The game isnt transparent enough in showing that the AI can see your budget.

2) AI managers value your star players at £, yet they value their own at £££££££££.

SurvivorSoso88
02-01-2008, 07:27
CHEATS !!!

I've just sufered another big blow.
I scouted a player from real Mardid (14 million) he had a minimum release clause of 37...so I pay this huge sum of money...the scout says that he would be EXTREMLY interested in joining my team...so I offer him everything I got...180 p/w,5,6 signing fee ! and key player of course...an offer that can't be refused by anyone...after 3 days a message pops up saying that he signed a new deal with real madrid /http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif...and the new release clause is set at 70 million !!! sooo annoying http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

George Graham
02-01-2008, 08:49
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SurvivorSoso88:
CHEATS !!!

I've just sufered another big blow.
I scouted a player from real Mardid (14 million) he had a minimum release clause of 37...so I pay this huge sum of money...the scout says that he would be EXTREMLY interested in joining my team...so I offer him everything I got...180 p/w,5,6 signing fee ! and key player of course...an offer that can't be refused by anyone...after 3 days a message pops up saying that he signed a new deal with real madrid /http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif...and the new release clause is set at 70 million !!! sooo annoying http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The game does this when you try and sign players on a free.

Yet another thing that has never been fixed.

Bongo-Bongo
02-01-2008, 09:06
I'd say this is the most annoting thing about the game for me.

I have no problems with teams trying to get the most they can for a player, especially if they consider the player to be either a key player or important first team player, but when they ask for about 5 times the players value for a squad player, it does get a little on the frustration side. The AI needs to have more sense when it comes to valuing their players. They need to base ot more around how important the player is to them rather then how good the player is. Unless the player is going to play most games, or is they deem him the next big thing, then there is no reason for valuations to be so high.

neil220779
02-01-2008, 09:11
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SurvivorSoso88:
this is it :
Unreal request ! (http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3015/ridiculouslb3.jpg) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This one is very unrealistic. If you are in 2022, then this guys contract has a year to run, so they either sign him up(which they are trying to do, fair enough) or cash in and get what they can for him.

kaNovi
02-01-2008, 09:27
could u post this in the bug frum, i believe its a big bug!
i cant sign players for under 100 mio euros..

sammypurposa
02-01-2008, 09:53
i agree that there is a bug that makes the asking price for players too high as i have had many problems with this, you get a £30m transfer budget so you think you can sign loads of players but nobody that would actually improve your squad is attainable for under £20m

with this droste guy, i have noticed that the lack of really good regens might mean in 2022 this guy has one of the best defensive stats in the world, this might cause the ai to value him absurdly, not sure though by any means

Ferthepoet
02-01-2008, 14:21
The problem is not with the big prices, the problem is that the AI wants you to buy for big money yet only wants to pay peanut for the players you want to sell

SurvivorSoso88
02-01-2008, 14:55
take a look at this...has it happened to you ?

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2784/wtflz7.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtflz7.jpg)

Mojby
08-01-2008, 14:02
I remember a problem in FM07 ( I think it was this one) which was when people used the official pre game editor and changed loads of things it caused strange things to happen during the game.

I do not think transfers were affected in FM07 but if you have used the official pre game editor for FM08 this may be the cause.

If you have not used it then I am stuck for an answer for you.

canvey!!
09-01-2008, 12:04
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SurvivorSoso88:
take a look at this...has it happened to you ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Never seen that, it's interesting.