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matthewgoodfield
20-11-2008, 18:18
Hi

I am in my second season with Arsenal

I am at the moment 1st in the league after 7 games and on 21 points

What I want to find out if the TOP 4 just bottle it like last years FM

I hope I am not able to walk a way with the tittle year after year

Carl87
20-11-2008, 18:19
Maybe you should try lower league management?

Or try a prem challenge such as Newcastle.

Mike7077
20-11-2008, 18:19
I'd like to know why you start so many threads but never post anything further in them beyond your original post. :p

campos08
20-11-2008, 18:20
Hi

I am in my second season with Arsenal

I am at the moment 1st in the league after 7 games and on 21 points

What I want to find out if the TOP 4 just bottle it like last years FM

I hope I am not able to walk a way with the tittle year after year

Try to manager some conference north/south team then

matthewgoodfield
20-11-2008, 18:23
Look

Always everybodys reply to a challenge is always , try a lower league club . It is always like that

My Question was nothing to do with that

I said

I would like to see if the TOP 4 challenge for the tittle or they just let you win it after you have won your first won tittle .

A big club can be a really better challenge if the other TOP 4 clubs challenge .

Thanks You

Carl87
20-11-2008, 18:25
Because being a top 4 club isn't challenging, that's why you're winning.

If you want to be Arsenal but not win everything all the time then open the editor and remove all the best players. Simple.

Edit: Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea, and Liverpool are still the top 4 on my game.

matthewgoodfield
20-11-2008, 18:30
No that is not true

Look in real life .

Look at Arsenal for example , they are not doing very well , at the moment for a TOP 4 club .

A TOP 4 club can be challenging if other clubs from the TOP 4 compete for the tittle , and dont just let you win it

I would like a season , in real life for example

01 - MANU
02 - MANU
03 - ARSENAL
04 - CHELSEA
05 - CHELSEA
06 - LIVERPOOL
07 - ARSENAL

That is an example but in the game

01 - Man u
02 - Arsenal
03 - Arsenal
04- Arsenal
05 - Arsenal
06- Arsenal
07- Arsenal

U see the difference , the BIG 4 do not challenge as much as in real life .

SO A BIG 4 CLUB WOULD BE CHALLENGING IF THE OTHER CLUBS COMPETED !!!!!!!!!!

Mike7077
20-11-2008, 18:32
I'm not sure I understand you. Is English your first language? I'd have thought it was, given your name.

matthewgoodfield
20-11-2008, 18:37
How bloody hard is it to understand

Look at the premiership in real life . You don't often get a team winning the tittle 3 times in a row . But in Football Manager 09 you do

In real life . For example

2001 - Man U
2002 - Arsenal
2003 - Man U
2004 - Chelsea
2005 - Arsenal
2006- Liverpool
2007 - Arsenal

The fact is that it changes more or less every year

But in FM

2001 - Man U
2002 - Arsenal
2003 - Arsenal
2004 - Arsenal
2005 - Arsenal
2006- Arsenal
2007 - Arsenal

And the thing is . When you say , go to a lower league team if you want a challenge . When you work your way up to this league . It is the SAME . The League gets to easy and less challenging .

Mike7077
20-11-2008, 18:39
It's hard to understand because your English is atrocious. If it's not your first language then I understand and commend you because no doubt it's a lot better than my ability in your language. But if English is your first language then start making some damn sense!

An4r3w
20-11-2008, 18:41
you cannot predict the future... who knows maybe Man City will win the league next year in real life.

i'm quite happy with the game because the strong teams are the ones that end up near the top... theres not like Wigan winning the league!

matthewgoodfield
20-11-2008, 18:44
It's hard to understand because your English is atrocious. If it's not your first language then I understand and commend you because no doubt it's a lot better than my ability in your language. But if English is your first language then start making some damn sense!

Damn is not a word

dazbowski
20-11-2008, 18:46
Damn is not a word

damn I thought it was!

Mike7077
20-11-2008, 18:46
Damn is not a word

Yes it is.

matthewgoodfield
20-11-2008, 18:52
It's hard to understand because your English is atrocious. If it's not your first language then I understand and commend you because no doubt it's a lot better than my ability in your language. But if English is your first language then start making some damn sense!

No it is not . Get YOUR English right

Carl87
20-11-2008, 18:53
In all fairness, damn is a shortened version of damnation.

dazbowski
20-11-2008, 19:00
No it is not . Get YOUR English right

well it's in the collins english dictionary so i guess it is a word!

Mike7077
20-11-2008, 19:08
No it is not . Get YOUR English right

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/damn

I rest my case.

Mike7077
20-11-2008, 19:08
In all fairness, damn is a shortened version of damnation.

Damn is a word in its own right.

paul 1300
20-11-2008, 19:13
I 've through the data edited Arsenal ,chelsea and Man u to be crap and they still win the title year after year

matthewgoodfield
20-11-2008, 19:18
Keeeeeno !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Socdk
20-11-2008, 19:21
YADA YADA YADA

What have you done transfer-wise? IMO the game gets a lot easier if you just exploit the (still) faulty transfer system. What is your starting XI? Are you using the corner cheat?

The game is easy for some and hard for others. If you find it too easy to be one of the Big 4 in England then try setting up some rules and guidelines for yourself.
What I always like to do (when I'm a big club) is to sign players based on their form, stats and avg. ratings rather than their attributes. IE. If I need a winger I filter a list based on some must-have attributes. This could be pace, acceleration, dribbling crossing and off the ball of 15 (off course the number depends on what standard my team are. If I'm a danish side I set the criterias lower). I then find a handful of players within a pricerange (also set by myself) and get them scouted once to get a hint of availibilty. Then I scout them myself by seeing some matches of the more interesting players, narrowing down the field. In the end I have a few players who look good in their stats and have been impressing in the matches I've seen with them. Sometimes I make a bad signing and other times I make a nice signing. I love to play like this since, while it's lengthy, it makes me feel like a real manager :D

Oh I'm talking away here. Anywho, try setting some restrictions for yourself regarding transfer fees, salaries and the amount of players you sign.

Ozzy38
20-11-2008, 19:39
You're ARSENAL.

Let's say that again - ARSENAL.

This is the team who demolishes the entire Premier League in every FM for at least 10 years.

In FM 07 I am Spurs, these are my league placings (from what I remember)

06/07 - bottom half (I took over in Feb)
07/08 - Top half
08/09 - 5th
09/10 - 1st
10/11 - 2nd (Arsenal were choking but we choked too)
11/12 - 7th (Again we choked, dropping from 2nd to 3rd, then in the final game droppd 3rd to 7th
12/13 - Currently in March or something, 3 points behind league leaders You-Know-Who.

Flatiso
20-11-2008, 19:42
He simply means that playing with an top 4 club is too easy. I agree with that..offcourse its easy to win titles with Chelsea or Arsenal BUT the top 4 should be challening the human player more.

So you can actually have an challenge, even if you are an top club.

matthewgoodfield
20-11-2008, 19:46
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/damn

I rest my case.


You're ARSENAL.

Let's say that again - ARSENAL.

This is the team who demolishes the entire Premier League in every FM for at least 10 years.

In FM 07 I am Spurs, these are my league placings (from what I remember)

06/07 - bottom half (I took over in Feb)
07/08 - Top half
08/09 - 5th
09/10 - 1st
10/11 - 2nd (Arsenal were choking but we choked too)
11/12 - 7th (Again we choked, dropping from 2nd to 3rd, then in the final game droppd 3rd to 7th
12/13 - Currently in March or something, 3 points behind league leaders You-Know-Who.

Lol

I meant a team that you are in FM
Of course it is going to be difference it difference peoples FMs

CaptainPlanet
20-11-2008, 19:48
You don't know what Arsenal won't demolish the league for the next 10 years though? :)

They start off with a lot of wonderkids, which judging by them this year is probably true.

That being said, I think they are a tad overpowered and they have won the league in my first three game seasons.