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vincenzo incendio
20-11-2008, 03:43
What is the toughest group draw you have had?

I'm in the 2011/2012 season of my Man United game, I'm 3 time Champions League winner and got a first seed. The second seed in my group is Ajax. The third seed in my group is Juventus and the fourth seed is Rangers.

The interesting thing is, Juventus is a three seed, but I don't understand how. They have won the Serie A the last two seasons and they made it to the first knockout round in the last Champions League. So what gives????

http://i36.tinypic.com/14bt1f5.jpg

Bardia
20-11-2008, 03:48
Man United being a fourth seed is harder to understand than Juve being a third seed. Imo.

vincenzo incendio
20-11-2008, 03:50
Man United being a fourth seed is harder to understand than Juve being a third seed. Imo.

No, Manchester United is a first seed.

I think they are listed in the standings alphabetically.

Dregganor
20-11-2008, 03:51
Man United being a fourth seed is harder to understand than Juve being a third seed. Imo.

"I'm in the 2011/2012 season of my Man United game, I'm 3 time Champions League winner and got a first seed. The second seed in my group is Ajax. The third seed in my group is Juventus and the fourth seed is Rangers."

And that is a pretty challenging group there.

Good luck!

The_Kreman
20-11-2008, 04:08
Ajax and Rangers shouldn't be any problem at all.
I would hardly call that a goup of death!

weezathon
20-11-2008, 04:24
I'm a Rangers fan and well they are pretty poor in the game , not that they are amazing irl. I am currently Gers in my game, and I got into the CL I have Arsenal, Bayern and Galatasary now thats a bloody tough group!!! SPL wise my God I am doing bad... I have played this game for years and this is one of the worst starts ever, 4 games 2 points. Confidence isn't exactly high!

acmilano112000
20-11-2008, 05:35
No, Manchester United is a first seed.

I think they are listed in the standings alphabetically.

a r j m?

what abc's song did your parents teach you?

vincenzo incendio
20-11-2008, 05:44
a r j m?

what abc's song did your parents teach you?

lol.

I don't know how they list them, then.

vincenzo incendio
20-11-2008, 05:45
Ajax and Rangers shouldn't be any problem at all.
I would hardly call that a goup of death!

Well, it's the toughest group draw I have had. Ajax always plays me hard and I've only managed to beat Juventus once and draw them three times.

Avelives
20-11-2008, 05:46
When you said group of death i was thinking of the following sorts of teams.

Man Utd/Chelsea/Liverpool
Madrid/Barcelona
Ac Milan/Inter Milan
Bayern Munich/or a selection of decent French teams

Ajax and Juve never entered my head, and Rangers?!? Please do me a favour you are Man Utd!! lol

Brunob
20-11-2008, 05:47
You should be able to beat every single one of those clubs by at least 2 goal differential

vincenzo incendio
20-11-2008, 05:48
You should be able to beat every single one of those clubs by at least 2 goal differential

I just beat Juventus 2-0. :)

Raymond85
20-11-2008, 08:41
not same standards but i'm Udinese and in first season Euro cup group stage i drew Tottenham, Besiktas, Hertha Berlin and Racing club... now i call that a group of death!!! btw i'm 3rd seed and i got some of the worst seed 1 and 2 and the toughest ones there were in seed 4 and 5!!!!
started with a 1-0 90th minute away win with racing, so looking quite ok for now ;)

craigy18181
20-11-2008, 08:42
I'm a Rangers fan and well they are pretty poor in the game , not that they are amazing irl. I am currently Gers in my game, and I got into the CL I have Arsenal, Bayern and Galatasary now thats a bloody tough group!!! SPL wise my God I am doing bad... I have played this game for years and this is one of the worst starts ever, 4 games 2 points. Confidence isn't exactly high!

you must be crap mate :D i won the SPL with 8 scottish players 2 northern ireland players and a portugese player :D.

Mike7077
20-11-2008, 09:08
lol.

I don't know how they list them, then.

They are listed in the order they were drawn. Ajax must have been fourth seeds and Juventus second seeds.

Nomis07
20-11-2008, 09:08
At FC Bayern I got Inter, Lyon and Sevilla in the same group :( The following season I got Shaktar, Celtic and Newcastle, which was slightly easier :D

Mike7077
20-11-2008, 09:11
On FM08, as Man Utd, I kept getting Valencia in my group. That was pretty annoying. I did win 6-0 at their place on one occasion, though.

Nomis07
20-11-2008, 09:15
Were they like your Liverpool-Chelsea/Man Utd-Juventus? Over the years i've built up a few overseas rivalries with teams from the CL, I got Roma in the QF's three years in a row and ended up having a lengthy slanging match with Spaletti.

Ozzy38
20-11-2008, 19:09
Group of Deaths definitely come from International qualifying groups. Unless it's been fixed, the seedings of the international teams don't change. So you could end up with a 6 team group where 5 can win, one was a World Cup/Euro finalist a month ago, the other a quarter finalist etc. and the 6th team being the obligatory whipping boys.

vincenzo incendio
20-11-2008, 20:02
They are listed in the order they were drawn. Ajax must have been fourth seeds and Juventus second seeds.

I'm positive Juventus was a third seed and Ajax was a second seed.

Here are the coefficients:

United: 154.84 (1 seed)
Ajax: 104.93 (2 seed)
Juventus: 66.55 (3 seed)
Rangers: 44.24 (4 seed)

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rob magic
20-11-2008, 20:04
As Arsenal I got JUVENTUS, PSV & OLYMPIAKOS. Played 3 drawn 3.

vincenzo incendio
20-11-2008, 20:06
Were they like your Liverpool-Chelsea/Man Utd-Juventus? Over the years i've built up a few overseas rivalries with teams from the CL, I got Roma in the QF's three years in a row and ended up having a lengthy slanging match with Spaletti.

Uh, I always get Lyonnais. I was getting so sick of playing them.

08/09: same group
09/10: same group
10/11: same group, and then met in the quarterfinal

I was tempted to buy Fred just so I never had to play against him again. :D

celticontour
20-11-2008, 20:37
Has anyone else noticed how treams from the same country are being drawn together in the group stages of the uefa cup it's really annoying me