This game is the worst and most shocking version of FM to date

Where do I begin?

Have been playing a LAN game with my flatmate on an 8mb connection, depressingly long loading screens. We constantly played FM08 LAN games without a single problem.

The bugs are beyond a joke.. Half way through a game players will randomly change positions with out our control. The typing issue I know everyone is having. The main problem is injuries. How can a virus leave a player out for 3 months? Or a sprained wrist for 5? A Gashed leg for a month? Pathetic.

The patch only makes things worse. How is it that SI can charge money for this game? We'd all be better off hooking up our psone's and playing LMA manager 98. I will not be buying another SI product and the entire team that produced this game should really go back to the drawing board because you ****ed up good and proper you bunch of incompetent cretins.

Nice one.

can't say I agree with a single thing you have just said. Sorry for your issues. Works a treat for me.

I can't comment on LAN games because I don't play them. As for the rest of it, it is about a million miles from my experience of FM09. I've been thoroughly enjoying it. And although I've had a few injuries here and there, it's not been unrealistic and I've since gone one and half in-game months without any kind of injury.

Have you installed the patch? Most issues were fixed by this.

As was aid above I don't agree with what you say as I've experienced none of these issues since the patch.

If you happen to get flamed for what you are saying in here, take a look at this thread: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=65811

Not in terms of length, but in terms of tone, formulation and constructiveness it may be an example for a negative opinion for which posters get praised even by the mods and SI

Perhaps it's just me (and craigy), but I don't agree. Although I am not playing online, the game is fine. Injuries are a bit annoying (the patch should help), the stuff about SI is gonna get this post closed.

Sympathise with your problems, but the rant is not gonna help you

Have you installed the patch? Most issues were fixed by this.

He did say 'the patch only makes things worse'. That actually makes me wonder if he's on a wind-up.

He did say 'the patch only makes things worse'. That actually makes me wonder if he's on a wind-up.

+ first post on here... maybe won't last long.

Setting up Match on a network game is a nightmare.

He did say 'the patch only makes things worse'. That actually makes me wonder if he's on a wind-up.

One day I'll bother to read the whole of one of these unconstructive posts

I have been playing fm for a while, I know what to expect. The game was running better before the patch for some reason? The patch has literally only made things worse. I just think it's shocking, my flatmate and I are both running brand new hi-res media laptops so I know it has nothing to do with the computer performance since I can run games like counterstrike and far cry 2 online in the highest graphic setting without a single lag.

I was excited to play this game but now I realise I should have stuck to FM08. SI were supposed to move forward with this but I really don't think they have at all.

Sorry, Sloman, but I just can't agree with anything you've said. It just hasn't been that way for me.

I'm happy for you mate but that doesn't solve any of the issues.

These are issues that I haven't seen, though.

Where do I begin?

Have been playing a LAN game with my flatmate on an 8mb connection, depressingly long loading screens. We constantly played FM08 LAN games without a single problem.

The bugs are beyond a joke.. Half way through a game players will randomly change positions with out our control. The typing issue I know everyone is having. The main problem is injuries. How can a virus leave a player out for 3 months? Or a sprained wrist for 5? A Gashed leg for a month? Pathetic.

The patch only makes things worse. How is it that SI can charge money for this game? We'd all be better off hooking up our psone's and playing LMA manager 98. I will not be buying another SI product and the entire team that produced this game should really go back to the drawing board because you ****ed up good and proper you bunch of incompetent cretins.

Nice one.

Slow? Not on my computers.

Bugs? Haven't noticed anything critical

Injuries? Nothing out of the ordinary?

Virus? Ever heard of glandular fever?

Pathetic? Only your post I'm afraid.

well whats the specs of both machines. Can you list them

'This game is the worst and most shocking version of FM to date' - but's it's not tho is it!

Hats off to you; that's an astonishingly well-written and informative opening post.

Been playing a LAN game with no issues...

Having not played the full game, I'm not really in a position to pass judgement on how good the game is, however the general concesus generally is that the game is very good from what people have said about it.

Perhaps you were expecting too much, or maybe the horrendous authentication method has deflated your enjoyment of the game.

If your playing a LAN game then what does your 8mb internet connection have to do with it?

Here's how it should be done Sloman:

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=65811

Give it time i bet he's back on here with a new name singing the praises of fm09. Me and my mates started a new game last night and what do ya know im hooked like fm08. Best game yet.

Did you read my post above? It is slow on a £2000 gaming laptop and an 8mb connection which granted we probably only get 7-7.5mb out of but that is still a fast connection especially via LAN.

So you agree that a gashed leg should leave players out for a month? A sprained wrist for 2 months? Get real. If we're talking realism, Eduardo is almost back for Arsenal after snapping his leg yet on this game players will be out for months recovering from lifting heavy weights in the gym.

I'm honestly glad not everyone is having these problems but I am and I know other people are too. An establishment like SI and Sega should really be getting this right for EVERYONE. I did not post a thread for you Chelsea fans to get defensive and protect SI. Accept that this is what is happening for me and other people I know of, we couldn't give a **** if its working brilliantly for you.

I'm still confused mate. Are you playing over the internet or over a LAN?

First game was played over the internet while my flatmate was away but that was unbareably slow and since we have played LAN which is also very slow so we tried a new LAN game on FM08 to see if it was a problem with us but FM08 ran perfectly as it always has done.

my my, your a clever boy aren't you!

I did not post a thread for you Chelsea fans to get defensive and protect SI. Accept that this is what is happening for me and other people I know of, we couldn't give a **** if its working brilliantly for you.

What's that all about? If you tried posting in a polite constructive manner then you may find more people willing to take you seriously.

We don't want abuse and swearing on these forums.

Also bare in mind I am not commenting on single player games as I haven't played one on FM09 yet.

What's that all about? If you tried posting in a polite constructive manner then you may find more people willing to take you seriously.

We don't want abuse and swearing on these forums.

I dont react well to being ripped off clearly. I didn't post here to make friends so spare me the comments. This is purely a rant on mine and my friends dissatisfaction. I don't want to be diplomatic because this has made me too angry. Maybe I did expect too much but that is judging by past versions because they have always stepped up. Dissapointments hard to take when only SI can fix these problems.

Are you both using the same activation code?

No we both purchased a copy of the game each as we have done ever since championship manager.

Sloman, are you 5 years old? because all i can hear is you crying and stamping your feet!

I dont react well to being ripped off clearly. I didn't post here to make friends so spare me the comments. This is purely a rant on mine and my friends dissatisfaction. I don't want to be diplomatic because this has made me too angry. Maybe I did expect too much but that is judging by past versions because they have always stepped up. Dissapointments hard to take when only SI can fix these problems.

And what is the point in ranting? Do you think that is going to help SI fix your problem

Upload a saved game to the FTP in the Bugs Forum so the SI team can look at them and work out why your system is having these problems, because it appears to be localised to you.

Yes I am 5 years old. I am very ****ed off because I spent £40 on a game instead of Lego. That is definately where my anger lies.

The only thing that I would agree with you about is the injuries - I have never in my life heard of anyone getting a gashed leg and being out for a month, yet this is a common occurrence on FM09.

Torn Calf muscle - 5 months? Should be 3.

Twisted knee - 1 month? 2-3 weeks max.

Twisted ankle - same

I've seen players get a sprained wrist and be out for a month too, it shouldn't happen.

The only other gripe i currently have with the game are the goalkeepers. They do some seriously weird things, and they get far too many assists, which is partly related to central defenders having absolutely no intelligence, regardless of stats, and often getting out of position, allowing strikers a clean run on goal. However, its also partly to do with goalkeepers being able to pick out a striker's little toe from 80 yards away.

Dissapointments hard to take when only SI can fix these problems.

You are making an assumption that the fault is SI's and not your own. The game even works fine for us Plymouth Argyle fans, not just Chelski ones.

If you spent 40 quid they saw you coming!

You are making an assumption that the fault is SI's and not your own. The game even works fine for us Plymouth Argyle fans, not just Chelski ones.

How is this my fault? Did I make the game and design all the features? I am only to blame for wasting money that could have been spent on bills.

Sloman, are you 5 years old? because all i can hear is you crying and stamping your feet!

This isn't helping either mate. I don't agree with the way he's posting but resorting to personal insults makes you just as bad and only inflames the situation.

I've been playing a network game with 2 of my flat mates and we've had no problems at all. Runs faster than FM08. I also know 2 people from my football team are playing over the internet and theyve said it runs fine too...

What exactly is slow, loading player profiles, setting up 3d matches?

How is this my fault? Did I make the game and design all the features? I am only to blame for wasting money that could have been spent on bills.

dont you and your, ahem "flatmate" share the bills? like other things?

I've been playing a network game with 2 of my flat mates and we've had no problems at all. Runs faster than FM08. I also know 2 people from my football team are playing over the internet and theyve said it runs fine too...

What exactly is slow, loading player profiles, setting up 3d matches?

I think this indicates that there may be something wrong on your end Sloman. I'd follow Glyn's advice further up the page and see if SI can identify your problem.

How is this my fault? Did I make the game and design all the features? I am only to blame for wasting money that could have been spent on bills.

If the slow LAN game is a fault that only you and your friend are experiencing, then it isn't too great a leap of logic to assume that the fault is not SI's but yours.

I'm sure every single one of you lads can appriciate the dissapointment I am experiencing, we've all been there with technology or games, whatever. I haven't gone about things in the right way but this is purely down to past versions being nothing but brilliant. I really don't mind the personal insults, go for it.. Unless it fixes my game I am not interested.

Wow, this thread is getting really stupid!

Why do people moan about a player being injured for too long, or a goalkeeper getting an assist? Guess what, last weekend IRL some players who never usually score managed to score, some defenders made some really stupid mistakes, and some awesome strikers missed really easy chances!

What shall we do, write to the Premier League and demand that they change it? Paul Scholes was out IRL for nearly a whole season with a random eye problem - get over it! There are too many injuries I agree, but some people just moan about isolated incidents as if SI can do anything about it

I think this indicates that there may be something wrong on your end Sloman. I'd follow Glyn's advice further up the page and see if SI can identify your problem.

That is what I first assumed but how is it that FM08 works perfectly, along with other LAN games such as Counterstrike? I will follow Glyn's advice as it is the only advice that will help.

Here's how it should be done Sloman:

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=65811

Beat you to it