To easy to be offered top jobs..

I''m manager of gateshead, i won the blue square north first season, now am 2nd in the conference yet i'm being offered top jobs already, i've been offered aston villa, manchester city and newcastle. Bit unrealistic IMO.

My guess is that you set your reputation as International Footballer, so you created the unrealistic rep rather than the game performing in an unrealistic manner. Set your rep as Sunday league and you won't get offered any jobs until you've achieved a hell of a lot.

Did you set your manager settings to International Footballer?

Edit: ah, Nomis07 beat me to that by a hairline!

My guess is that you set your reputation as International Footballer, so you created the unrealistic rep rather than the game performing in an unrealistic manner. Set your rep as Sunday league and you won't get offered any jobs until you've achieved a hell of a lot.

just had a look, yes i did set it as that, but even still it's a bit soon to be offered them kind of jobs is it not? i mean when did a conference manager get offered a top world job?

just had a look, yes i did set it as that, but even still it's a bit soon to be offered them kind of jobs is it not? i mean when did a conference manager get offered a top world job?

Paul Ince made a very hefty leap from MK Dons to Blackburn, he'd done well at MK Dons but the mainr eason is his reputation, which was built up as a player.

Paul Ince got the Blackburn job from the MK Dons as an example. I think it's down to the reputation.

Paul Ince made a very hefty leap from MK Dons to Blackburn, he'd done well at MK Dons but the mainr eason is his reputation, which was built up as a player.

agreed but i would say that mk dons are significantly bigger than gateshead and man city bigger than blackburn, i'm not really moaning just find it a bit unrealistic am really loving the game.

Anyway i'm turning them all down as i wanna win the big three with gateshead.

p.s just been offered the lazio job???

hi dazbowski, the brazilian national team never managed any club before... so its possible to a known player become manager of any team, not that this is the rioght stuff (DUNGA SUX) , but happen all time

true, but either way his reputation was the main reason for him getting the job. IMO if he had done a good job with Gateshead rather than MK Dons he would still have been flavour of the month and Newcastle etc would have been after him. There are many managers who have done a better job down in league 1/2, but no prem club would touch them because they don't have the profile that Ince had.

Alan Shearer is being touted as next Newcastle manager and has never managed a club, neither had Roy Keane before Sunderland or Stuart Pearce before Man City iirc and I think Glenn Hoddle went straight into a top flight job.

Hoddle managed Swindon in the First Division before he went to Chelsea, but that's still pretty high.

just had a look, yes i did set it as that, but even still it's a bit soon to be offered them kind of jobs is it not? i mean when did a conference manager get offered a top world job?

Garath Southgate and Tony Adams, both had 0 managment experience and are now managing premier league sides...

its very easy to get jobs these days, how any international manager have went from retirement straight into international jobs. Ryjkaard, Van Basten, Hughes, Klinsmann. That used to be the pinnacle of a managers career back in the day. Not any more.

Few other people have listed Southgate, Adams and I remember one John Barnes but we all know how that one worked out

like the man in the orthapaedic shoes i stand corrected (credit to dan from alan partridge )

The mistake within professional football. Not starting at the bottom means you get nowhere. Paul Ince, Tony Adams, Gareth Southgate, Gianfranco Zola...they have achieved sooo much (not) by being considered good at management just because they were former internationals.

Martin O'Neil began at the bottom and look at him now, no-one would suggest he isn't a decent manager.

The guy who said Stuart Pearce never managed before Man City...he had a brief spell in charge of Notts Forest.

Garath Southgate and Tony Adams, both had 0 managment experience and are now managing premier league sides...

Actually Adams had some lower league experience with Wycombe, but it did not go that well.

Steve Staunton was given the Irish international managers job on the back of a good reputation, I doubt his 6 months as assistant manager at Walsall had much to do with the appointment!

Gareth Southgate, Marco Van Basten and Jurgen Klinsmann also come to mind...

And El Diego didn't get the Argentina job based on his coaching record!

Ok ok, I think the point has been proved Nothing to do with FM, but does anyone agree that we will never see another Ferguson or Redknapp style manager who worked their way to the top?

i was 17th in the lowest league with hucknall and i got offered a job at derby and sheffield wednesday, my reputation was professional footballer

Ok ok, I think the point has been proved Nothing to do with FM, but does anyone agree that we will never see another Ferguson or Redknapp style manager who worked their way to the top?

Nigel Clough,I think he has a chance to work his way up.

As to the op John Barnes>Celtic,top footballer no manager experience giving a big club to manage and what a great job he did too

Nigel Clough has a chance, but I think teams will still opt for the likes of Ince or Zola who have less experience and IMO less promise, but huge reputation.

You'll get the odd few still grounding their way up to the top but it will be far less than before. IMO we have seen the end of the Fergusons or Redknapps. Also remember both clubs and managers don't have much patience these days to stay somewhere for so long. Dowie is a prime example, why on earth teams keep employing him should require an X-Files style investigation!

Whoever it was up there. Tony Adams got Wycombe Wanderers relegated a few years back. He has management experience and didn't prove particularly good. But he's still got the top job at Portsmouth on his coaching credentials. Somehow.

The guy who said Stuart Pearce never managed before Man City...he had a brief spell in charge of Notts Forest.

{pedant mode}

Nottingham Forest.

{/pedant mode}

The mistake within professional football. Not starting at the bottom means you get nowhere. Paul Ince, Tony Adams, Gareth Southgate, Gianfranco Zola...they have achieved sooo much (not) by being considered good at management just because they were former internationals.

Martin O'Neil began at the bottom and look at him now, no-one would suggest he isn't a decent manager.

Yeah, Zola, Adams and Ince should have achieved so much more in their couple of months managing in the top flight.

agreed but i would say that mk dons are significantly bigger than gateshead and man city bigger than blackburn, i'm not really moaning just find it a bit unrealistic am really loving the game.

Anyway i'm turning them all down as i wanna win the big three with gateshead.

p.s just been offered the lazio job???

I also don't feel it is all that unrealistic. If you were a top class footballer, you are well known already with a good reputation. Then you have shown you are a good manager too, winning the league in your debut year as a manager. Irl you would then be regarded to be a big managerial talent too and likely to get a chance at a top level. Whether it would have to be Villa, Newcastle and City may be debated but I really feel it's not way off.

Ok ok, I think the point has been proved Nothing to do with FM, but does anyone agree that we will never see another Ferguson or Redknapp style manager who worked their way to the top?

I could give you examples from Germany

Robzilla - Yep NOTTS Forest.

The guy who manages Hull, can't recall his name from the top of my head...I reckon he could do well in the future. Would also have said Allerdyce before the suicidal decision to manage Newcastle.

Aidy Boothroyd looked like he was on the up a couple of seasons ago. Prettyu poor last year and a half though!

The guy who manages Hull, can't recall his name from the top of my head...I reckon he could do well in the future. Would also have said Allerdyce before the suicidal decision to manage Newcastle.

Phil Brown

Robzilla - Yep NOTTS Forest.

Did you type that on purpose?

And El Diego didn't get the Argentina job based on his coaching record!

They have Diego, we have Klinsmann...