santy001 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I've managed to build myself a tactic that keeps teams at bay and allows me to play reasonably well against them, however, it seems in response to this, every club has been practicing their long range shots, John Terry scored 4 goals against my side from 25+ yards - hardly a world renowned striker is he? It's happening everywhere, and attempts to change keepers, and even teams are having no joy. It seems far too many players have mastered the art of long shooting, even lower league players (in a cup game as man utd, a 16 year old youth for macclesfield smashed 3 past van der sar with a long shooting stat of 2 and he only had 4 shots all game). Just wondering if anyone else has noticed a rediculous amount of long range efforts go in or if its just the way these tactics are panning out, because so far after 10 games with man utd I've conceded only 2 goals from teams breaking me down, conceded 19 from more than 25 yards out. On my stoke save it's even worse, 60 goals conceded from over 25 yards out, less than 10 from being broken down, and I'm in april. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketcase Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Havn't noticed this. There are alot of long range shots but mostly high and wide. I've conceded 1 in 7games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 May well be my tactics, just seems a little absurd that all these players - who aren't even great strikers of the ball are able to decimate my side, but give it to gerrard, lampard, drogba, torres etc and they fall flat on thier faces and go miles wide with shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaephon Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 You're not alone santy. At the very least the amount of long shots is certainly above the norm, seems anyone in any outfield position reckons they have a chance if they're given the space. As for the success rate, yeah, that's a bit dubious as well. It's currently not rare enough a thing to see someone slam in 30/40 yard efforts who's Long Shots stat is in the single figures. Furthermore watching your own players opting for these efforts time and time again when they actually have the time/space to either carry the ball closer to goal before shooting or pass it to someone else is pretty frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Indeed, on my stoke save, Anderson scored 7 past me in one season, on my manchester united save he hasn't scored one all season, and I'm troubled to remember any he got on target lol. Wonder if any more people are having similar issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyt Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 As well as conceding a LOT of penalties, i'm also suffering rom long shots. The last match I played, I lost 2-1, one penalty and one 35 yard shot where my 'keeper was standing somewhere to hte far left of the penalty area. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkTrevor Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I get the odd centre back who fires in a free kick from about 40 yards out that ronaldo wouldn't score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesL LFC Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Yea, first game of the season against Hull, Mascherano scored a hatrick for me... All from 30 yards+. His long shots stat is 9. something wrong i think. Won 6-0 Gerrard scored one from 30 yards too, but his stats are better so i can accept that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 It's getting beyond a joke for me now, my team will have shots all day long on their keeper and not score from inside the box, then they get on the half way line so my team falls back into rank, and then someone just shoots and puts it straight in the top corner past my keeper. Playing as Man Utd, Aston Villa put 5 past me, 3 from Barry who was just shooting from long range for fun. It's seriously getting on my nerves now, I've tried different saves and tactics with different teams, but it just keeps happening to me, I've got about 20 games in on 3 saves, and conceded over 200 goals. About 90% of which were long range efforts, can't keep playing the game like this. Got sacked on my stoke save because my first two keepers were out and I was playing a youth keeper, and conceded 30 goals in 4 games. Only 1 (which was a penalty) was scored from within the box during that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyt Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 And there is still the issue of every long range hump from the goalkeeper finding their player, already five yards ahead of your defence, and who always takes it around, lobs it over or just beats your keeper. I've had three one on ones in this game and he's hit all three straight at the 'keeper. his instructions are to take the ball around the 'keeper. he's not tried it once yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nufc Buck Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Barton scored a perfect hat-trick for me, his head, left foot from 20 yards and right foot from 25. But thats about it i concede goals from ex-players and players on my shortlist alot tho, played west ham in the cup and dyer, bowyer and bellamy scored lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baja Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 This is quite funny. What i actually noticed was that in my game nobody seems to score from long range. I've also played with manutd, conceded only one goal from distance in 6 months and scored two, or three... most of my (and the opposition's) long shots go way over the bar... what's your tactics like, santy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 On my stoke save, I play a 4-1-3-2, a DM to sit infront of defence, with the 3 midfielders coming back to help if needed, so it does form a tight wall tough for opposition teams to get through. With Man Utd I play more attacking, 4-1-3-2, 3 AM's and 1 CM in this formation, but still they come back and help with defending a bit, its more open but I can rely on the defenders there. With Mansfield I play a typical 4-4-2, not overly defensive or attacking, but in the middle. Even at this level teams still rifle goals in past me. These games are all tactical experiments for my network game (where my team is stoke) and even then I have issues conceding long range goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawf Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Try closing them down faster, mabye your team is set to stand off and then they will take potshots...and get lucky! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyt Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 If you close them down faster, they just pas it around you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inopportuno Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I agree. there are too much goals scored with long shots from sidereal distance, even with players that have a low-shooting rate. On the other hand I think that there are few goal on one-on-one. my fowards almost always shoot out or on goalkeeper's face. And finally there is a ridicoulus number of posts or cross bars hitted (3 or 4!!!!) per match! Fm2009 it's a really good game. if SI could adjust a little the match engine FM2009 will be the best iteration of the FM legacy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
433tom Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 If you close them down faster, they just pas it around you. Well in real life, you have to close them down when they get within 25 to 30 yards of goal or your begging them to let it rip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpeOne Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 i too find that i hit the crossbar loads, and my players miss headers from 2 yards quite often. as for long shots i havent seen anything out of the ordinary, with the exception, of possilby one or 2 more free kicks going in from distance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 I tried closing down as I thought it was the first solution, but if you set to close down defenders all the time etc, your team are going to be all over the place, and I think this was illustrated when sunderland put 5 past me in 10 minutes of trying to close down more because my team were opening up all over the pitch for them to play through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clampos Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Anybody else get a lot of won goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clampos Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 own I mean not won Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimony Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I had 1 own goal in 16, and 2 against. Scored too many long shots really. Ledesma has hit about 6 in 16, all 30 yard+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clampos Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 There seem to be some fairly odd OGs. Ive probably just been lucky but sometimes the defenders beat their own keeper with a placed shot. I think the long shots are down to tactics. Ive set mine up now to be more realistic but it took ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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