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Endology
07-11-2008, 11:18
Firstly the demo doesnt work on an aweful lot of peoples machines, and its not that we cant meet the specs required, Something is very wrong with the demo build and I dont have confidence it will be fixed for the release. Infact the fact SI have announced a patch for the very same release day is worrying, what about those without an internet connection? what about those who cannot patch the aweful bugs? what about them?

Secondly SI claim FM09 has a 3D engine. That is FALSE. What they have is an isometric view which we know as 2D not 3D. I am very disappointed in the 3D Engine claim, FALSE ADVERTISEMENT is against the law. Shame on you SI cause for the first time in years I wont be paying for this product. You quite frankly dont deserve it after such ridiculous claims.

On a positive note though, Kudos for FM 08 which I bought first day of release and was excellent. No false advertising during that release either.

jayahr
07-11-2008, 11:21
Nice first post on here.

Read today's blog :)

Toothless Gibbon
07-11-2008, 11:22
Errrr, it is 3d..

PGB_SPURS_FM09
07-11-2008, 11:23
Thanks for that. That is an extremely ridiculous claim your making there... I'm definitely not going to buy you

Mike7077
07-11-2008, 11:23
Errrr, it is 3d..


Indeed it is.

MSCCG
07-11-2008, 11:25
yeah, it is 3d. Quite 3d, in fact.

Mike7077
07-11-2008, 11:25
Maybe his computer has defaulted to 2D and he hasn't realised?

Endology
07-11-2008, 11:26
If thats 3D then what happened to the graphics? Microprose original Railroad Tycoon looks better than that. I prefer the 2D engine, it was top notch. Who needs to watch bad graphically looking footballers when you have a great 2D thing going on.

Super Bladesman
07-11-2008, 11:27
Looks great to me, and it's definitely 3D...

Cadijk van Kaarhandel
07-11-2008, 11:27
SI claim FM09 has a 3D engine. That is FALSE. What they have is an isometric view which we know as 2D not 3D.

Did you not get your pair of these yet mate?

http://www.assistpoint.co.uk/Images/3D_Glasses/3d_glasses_red_blue_lenses_with_arms.jpg

rusty_u
07-11-2008, 11:27
It's not isometric, poor attempt at trolling.

Toothless Gibbon
07-11-2008, 11:28
Well use the 2D then!

craigy18181
07-11-2008, 11:28
If thats 3D then what happened to the graphics? Microprose original Railroad Tycoon looks better than that. I prefer the 2D engine, it was top notch. Who needs to watch bad graphically looking footballers when you have a great 2D thing going on.

eh how about you dont use 3d then, simple. And it is 3D and alot of people use it and like it. Like i said before if you don't like 3D then continue to use the blobs. It is not false advertising.

Mike7077
07-11-2008, 11:29
So use the 2D engine. This is just another moan thread. So boring. If you don't like 3D, use 2D.

jayahr
07-11-2008, 11:29
If thats 3D then what happened to the graphics? Microprose original Railroad Tycoon looks better than that. I prefer the 2D engine, it was top notch. Who needs to watch bad graphically looking footballers when you have a great 2D thing going on.

So if you still have a top notch engine you like, what exactly is it you are complaining about?
3D ist there and if you don't like it, this has nothing to do with false advertising. If people have issues, that is very unfortunate and should be fixed asap. Which it apparently will. :)

Endology
07-11-2008, 11:30
Its looks great?

Ah the old "your a troll" when people hate your opinion trick, not every original. Try again.

Nah I didnt get the glasses, whats the point when the demo wont even launch.

BayernMB
07-11-2008, 11:30
It is 3D - it's 3D like they've showed us on screenshots. I don't know where the lie was. They didn't claim that it'll be the best graphic available, because FM was never about graphics.

james170288
07-11-2008, 11:31
its is 3d. sure it may not be the best graphically 3d engine ever, but si have to start somewhere, this is a development in progress, i am sure we will see over the next couple of editions the 3d me will look better.

Endology
07-11-2008, 11:34
I,ll take your word for it guys that its 3D, but I got to say looking at the graphical quality it sure looks like a trick isometric view. Can you change views? Can you move the camera around the 3d area anywehre you like? I'm still suspicious.

jayahr
07-11-2008, 11:36
Honestly, looking forward to a mod closing this.

Endology
07-11-2008, 11:36
why? cant people handle other peoples opinions around here?

craigy18181
07-11-2008, 11:36
Its looks great?

Ah the old "your a troll" when people hate your opinion trick, not every original. Try again.

Nah I didnt get the glasses, whats the point when the demo wont even launch.

what were you expecting really? Fifa? Pro Evo? Get a grip, you have been using 2D blobs for years and as a previous poster has mentioned its a good starting point. Its a very good representation of the match engine in 3D and gives you a better perspective of the match overall when you use it.

Rabbitoh
07-11-2008, 11:37
<sarcasm> Well this thread is a breath of fresh air. </sarcasm>

Cityull
07-11-2008, 11:37
Firstly the demo doesnt work on an aweful lot of peoples machines, and its not that we cant meet the specs required, Something is very wrong with the demo build and I dont have confidence it will be fixed for the release. Infact the fact SI have announced a patch for the very same release day is worrying, what about those without an internet connection? what about those who cannot patch the aweful bugs? what about them?

Secondly SI claim FM09 has a 3D engine. That is FALSE. What they have is an isometric view which we know as 2D not 3D. I am very disappointed in the 3D Engine claim, FALSE ADVERTISEMENT is against the law. Shame on you SI cause for the first time in years I wont be paying for this product. You quite frankly dont deserve it after such ridiculous claims.

On a positive note though, Kudos for FM 08 which I bought first day of release and was excellent. No false advertising during that release either.


First of all, the Demo does work on many thousand machines.

Secondly, the Demo is 3D. It looks like it does on the television doesn't it. The reason it doen't look exactly perfect is because they are essentially little cartoon people running around. I think this could be improved but it is NOT false advertisement.

Thirdly, FM08 IS full of these bugs you mentioned. Loads of unrealistic things happening all the time not to mention the closing down bug on it. This was fixed in the patch but is still visible in the game.

Why would you come on the forums and spread hate of the game? attention? Grow up and understand that this first patch will fix any problems that occur now and it will be a really good game.:thup:

Kriss
07-11-2008, 11:38
Its looks great?

Ah the old "your a troll" when people hate your opinion trick, not every original. Try again.

Nah I didnt get the glasses, whats the point when the demo wont even launch.

If you can't launch it you're most definitely a troll.

What are your opinions based on?