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Tom =)
25-01-2008, 08:05
i dont know about you, but whenever i play the first season on my own, or online in a clan i have always found Derby county to, unlike here in the real world they actually play very well. And usually come in the top 15, also they sign players like Bojinov and Bendtner and Benjani, making themselves a very good strike force. Now seriously Fm, is this realistic at all??

Tom =)
25-01-2008, 08:05
i dont know about you, but whenever i play the first season on my own, or online in a clan i have always found Derby county to, unlike here in the real world they actually play very well. And usually come in the top 15, also they sign players like Bojinov and Bendtner and Benjani, making themselves a very good strike force. Now seriously Fm, is this realistic at all??

glamdring
25-01-2008, 08:10
Top 15 out of 20 is hardly saying a lot. You can't expect FM to exactly mirror real life and have every club that is adrift in every league in real life be bottom in every person's game in FM too.

Ched
25-01-2008, 08:20
It's not like in 07 when west ham regularly challenged for the prem!

top 15 isn't exactly spectacular, and as you've said, they've signed players, so of course they'll perform differently.

AKA
25-01-2008, 08:24
Played a couple of games now and Derby have always hung around the premiership for years doing pretty well.

Remember Man City always storming FM07 when they were doing pish in real life.

IMT
25-01-2008, 08:25
Derby finished 6th in mine.... http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

bigdunk
25-01-2008, 08:32
A lot of Derby fans seem to be putting our poor performances down to horrendously bad management by Billy Davies. Obviously if you remove that factor and have Davies behave like a competent manager, then the season could have panned out differently. We certainly shouldn't be finishing 6th though. http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

IMT
25-01-2008, 08:34
In fairness Jewell isn't doing much better.

Thanks for Big Mo though, putting in some great performances for us... http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif

bigdunk
25-01-2008, 08:43
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by IMT:
In fairness Jewell isn't doing much better.

Thanks for Big Mo though, putting in some great performances for us... http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The bad management is more in relation to bad signings which Jewell is stuck with. Plus you'll never see a bunch of players so lacking in confidence as our lot at the moment. Performances have certainly picked up under Jewell though, even if results haven't.

Nomis07
25-01-2008, 08:47
Isn't this sort of thing what makes FM so enjoyable anyways.

People criticise the game for having teams like Derby do well and Utd get relegated yet we play it and take teams from Blue Square to CL. If it was truely realistic it would be incredibly difficult and take forever to get anywhere in LLM.

Personally I love the way FM can have teams take a totally different destiny to that of real life. Utd's drop in game is well documented in these forums and i'm currently waiting for them to get relegated before I take over and do another Ferguson.

morgantjg
25-01-2008, 17:06
It needs to be fixed for the next update. They regularly get into Europe in the first season and by the second or third they are usually Champions League regulars. Sure teams can step up in class, but not that quickly and certainly not in the first season. They should struggle to win a game, they have no Premier League quality players at the start of the game.

Where does all their money come from? Are they so mega rich in real life? They have spent £102m in four years on my current game.

Mike7077
25-01-2008, 17:16
You think they're good now, just wait until the 8.0.2 patch is released and they have Robbie Savage! http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

isuckatfm
25-01-2008, 19:07
I know I'm only one person but the range of differences in experience of Derby in my game to others shows just how random the FM world can be:-

2007/2008 16th Premiership
2008/2009 19th Premiership (Relegated)
2009/2010 3rd Championship (lost in SF of Play offs)
2010/2011 10th Championship
2011/2012 13th Championship
2012/2013 22nd Championship (Relegated)

ZlatanFollower
27-01-2008, 01:58
they are still in the prem on mine (2014-15) and are normally challenging for a UEFA cup place but never higher

one thing that they do have though is Andy Keogh who always scores past me.... i hate Andy Keogh

GeorgieMc
27-01-2008, 02:39
On my first FM08 game Derby went all the way down to League 2 in five seasons, going through tons of managers in the process, then they went bankrupt and got bought out before gaining promotion back to League 1 again.

Haven't got any screenshots to prove this unfortunately because I've since deleted the game but I was shocked they fell so far so fast.

Jase1982
27-01-2008, 02:47
I'm still Derby and after 4 years I've managed to get them into Europe, beating AC Milan along the way...every season, I finish mid table or there abouts. On average I still lose around 12 games a season though.

its all about who you sign, and I think people are right when they slate Billy Davies.

chrisk101
27-01-2008, 03:01
3 seasons in at the jan window and derby are 2nd one point off the top!! crazy and beating the top 4 easily!

ruzzy
27-01-2008, 13:48
Derby Finished Second And I Finished Top

williamshankley
27-01-2008, 14:01
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jase1982:
I'm still Derby and after 4 years I've managed to get them into Europe, beating AC Milan along the way...every season, I finish mid table or there abouts. On average I still lose around 12 games a season though.

its all about who you sign, and I think people are right when they slate Billy Davies. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I still think Billy Davies did a remarkable job to get Derby into the Premiership in the first place!

yankee_ram
27-01-2008, 15:15
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by williamshankley:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jase1982:
I'm still Derby and after 4 years I've managed to get them into Europe, beating AC Milan along the way...every season, I finish mid table or there abouts. On average I still lose around 12 games a season though.

its all about who you sign, and I think people are right when they slate Billy Davies. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I still think Billy Davies did a remarkable job to get Derby into the Premiership in the first place! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That he did but after that he was total ***** and left PJ with a bunch of players that are barely CCC quality. Davies should have left after the CCC playoff final like he threatened to do.

glamdring
28-01-2008, 02:16
Derby are 19th in my current game in 1st season so looks to me like it is just the usual random factor that causes them to be good in some people's games.

brooksm
28-01-2008, 04:21
they ended up relegated in the first season of my current game.

JAStewart
28-01-2008, 06:52
Derby came FOURTH in one of my game.

morgantjg
28-01-2008, 10:29
Derby came 6th,3rd,2nd,4th,5th and 3rd on my last game. They won the UEFA Cup in the second season and the Champions League in the 4th.

With the US deal announced today, perhaps this thread will seem stupid in the future, but the current version has them enormously overrated.

Mike7077
28-01-2008, 10:34
Derby have won the Premiership, Champions League, World Cup and even the Africa Cup of Nations on mine!

KnightedManager
28-01-2008, 10:42
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by morgantjg:

Where does all their money come from? Are they so mega rich in real life? They have spent £102m in four years on my current game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know, but other team have seriously abnormal amounts of cash aswell. Celtic in my game spent well over £80 mil in 3 years. Where the hell do they find that sort of cash?!?!?! They have only sold one player too, to Motherwell for a paltry £450,000!!!