FootyKing Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 From Miles blog on HMV: "If you were to read our forums since, you might think that the demo release was not a good thing at all. There are a few hundred people who are having issues running the demo due to hardware issues between the game and their graphics card, which has been very disappointing for us. We thought we had it all covered and that all graphics cards that couldn't run the game in 3d would run 2d, but as there is so much hardware out there, it's impossible to test on every single configuration, and with some cards, it just plain didn't work. We've spent hours trawling through second hand shops and ebay trying to find the cards that were reported to have problems, and we think we've now fixed the issue with most of them so that they'll at least be able to run 2d. Once we're happy that there will be no more issues, we will release a compatability patch for the demo, so that those people having problems can play the game happily." When is this out...Also if i buy the game, Do I need to have a graphics card or can i just play with 2D?...Thanks:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I like how it's spun to sound like all the cards that are having problems are from 50 years ago and that they had to go to the depths of the earth to find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim_Less Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 indeed those guys need an upgrade seriously making Si buy old cards just to make that patch most companies wouldnt care about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 They are fantastic with their customers, there was a problem and they listened and made a patch based entirely on out feedback, also, 2D lag will be fixed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXistenZ Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Will this help the freezing? otherwise it isn't helpfull to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 They are fantastic with their customers, there was a problem and they listened and made a patch based entirely on out feedback, also, 2D lag will be fixed Agreed, I have problems with my card in 3D myself, but luckly the 2D is working fine. Which other company would have done this (buying old cards, make a demo patch). SI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I hope my card is up to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 What card do you have Micado? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ookie Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 i think you're all insane. you're saying that no other company would make a patch to fix a problem that shouldn't have been there in the first place? christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Bladesman Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I like how it's spun to sound like all the cards that are having problems are from 50 years ago and that they had to go to the depths of the earth to find. My impression is that that isn't actually too far from the truth - it's some laptops that weren't designed for gaming, and some really old graphics cards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 does this include the intel cards problem - will they now run 3D Thanks SI- by far the best customer service Top guys, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treble_yell_:-) Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 i think you're all insane. you're saying that no other company would make a patch to fix a problem that shouldn't have been there in the first place? christ new to pc gaming ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Why are you guys testing graphic cards, why not just test the drivers from Nvidia and Ati and make sure theres no problems there... personally i have not had any issues with a Radeion 3870. Theres alot of people on laptops using onboard graphics which should be good enough to run the simple 3d match engine that Si have implemented but sometimes the drivers are more flakey there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ookie Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 new to pc gaming ? no, as a matter of fact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Well EA/Red Alert 3 have already released 3 patches and the game came out on Friday... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ookie Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 well ea/red alert 3 have already released 3 patches and the game came out on friday... new to pc gaming!?!?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 new to pc gaming!?!?!? What? 10101 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 What card do you have Micado? Display Devices --------------- Card name: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 110M Manufacturer: NVIDIA Chip type: Quadro NVS 110M DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01DA&SUBSYS_00021179&REV_A1 Display Memory: 256.0 MB Current Mode: 1400 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 What? 10101 I think he is just being a nuisance Tom SI have great customer service, the Spore developer only posted once on there forums while we get alot of SI staff posting alot of helpful messages. Great to see a first day patch Off Topic: why did lolgasm get banned? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ookie Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I think he is just being a nuisance TomSI have great customer service, the Spore developer only posted once on there forums while we get alot of SI staff posting alot of helpful messages. Great to see a first day patch Off Topic: why did lolgasm get banned? was he not as sycophantic as everyone else on this forum? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 was he not as sycophantic as everyone else on this forum? Possibly, I can't remember Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritik Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I like how it's spun to sound like all the cards that are having problems are from 50 years ago and that they had to go to the depths of the earth to find. and you would think that it's the only problem with the demo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritik Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 few hundred ? More like few thousand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 indeed those guys need an upgrade seriously making Si buy old cards just to make that patch most companies wouldnt care about that I wish people would stop with this sort of jibe. My PC is less than 9 months old and MORE than meets the minimum specs, but my 3d is jerky and pretty much unwatchable. It's not just the "old" cards that are a problem, it's certain TYPES. And they'll be in 2nd hand shops and ebay because like any company they want to minimise costs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam.ncfc Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 thanks so much si if only ea could be a bit more like you guys... will this let 3d work on ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 11/6/2008, 18:09:03 Machine name: CAMERON-PC Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_gdr.080917-1612) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: DIXONSXP System Model: Ei 305 BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz Memory: 1014MB RAM Page File: 905MB used, 1374MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 10 DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode ------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ Display Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. 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Corporation - WDDM) Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2772&SUBSYS_0CCB105B&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&10 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\igdkmd32.sys, 7.14.0010.1138 (English), 12/5/2006 00:00:16, 1476608 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igdumd32.dll, 7.14.0010.1138 (English), 12/5/2006 00:00:30, 2105344 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\iglhxs32.vp, 12/5/2006 00:36:56, 21664 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\iglhxo32.vp, 10/19/2006 02:10:57, 2096 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\iglhxc32.vp, 10/19/2006 02:10:57, 2096 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxdev.dll, 7.14.0010.1138 (English), 12/4/2006 23:09:58, 212992 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxTMM.dll, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 12/4/2006 23:12:16, 61440 bytes Name: Intel® 945G/GZ/P/PL Processor to I/O Controller - 2770 Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2770&SUBSYS_0CCB105B&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&00 Driver: n/a Name: Intel® 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_244E8086&REV_E1\3&2411E6FE&0&F0 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6000.16386 (English), 11/2/2006 09:50:57, 140392 bytes Name: Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8139&SUBSYS_0CCB105B&REV_10\4&5C2F873&0&18F0 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\Rtnicxp.sys, 5.640.0630.2006 (English), 11/2/2006 07:30:56, 47104 bytes ------------------ DirectShow Filters ------------------ DirectShow Filters: WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,, WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,, WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,, MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,, Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,, WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,, WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,, Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,, Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,, DivX Decoder Filter,0x00800000,1,1,divxdec.ax,5.02.0001.1335 Pinnacle Real Media Renderer 2,0x00200000,2,0,PCLERMRenderer2.ax,1.00.0000.0046 DVC150 Muxer,0x00200000,2,1,DVC150Muxer.ax,4.00.0001.0000 Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16681 CyberLink MPEG Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,P2GVidEnc.ax,6.00.0001.2226 Pinnacle VariSpeed Filter,0x00200000,0,0,DWVariSpeed.ax,15.00.0000.0004 PushSink,0x00200000,1,0,pushSink.ax,8.00.0000.0000 Multiple File Output,0x00200000,2,2,WMM2FILT.dll, ESink,0x00200000,1,0,ESink.ax,2.00.0000.0001 Pinnacle MPADecoder,0x00400000,1,1,MPADecoder.ax,2.01.0000.0002 WMT Black Frame Generator,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll, CyberLink DVD Navigator,0x00600000,0,3,CLNAVX.ax,5.00.0000.21172 CyberLink MP3/WAV Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,P2GMP3Wrap.ax,3.06.0000.0321 Pinnacle Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,pcle_ovr.ax,6.00.0276.0000 DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,,6.06.6000.16386 CyberLink AudioCD Filter,0x00600000,0,1,P2GAudioCD.ax,5.00.0000.4417 Pinnacle Float2PCM,0x00200000,0,0,Float2PCM.ax,1.00.0002.0024 Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 Pinnacle MPEG Layer-1/2 Audio Decoder,0x00400000,1,1,PCLEMPEGBox.ax,5.00.0584.0000 WMT Interlacer,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, Pinnacle ASF Audio Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLEASFMediaSource.ax,1.00.0002.0176 Pinnacle Cutlist Audio Source 3,0x00200000,0,0,PCLECutlistSource3.ax,3.00.0000.0126 WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6000.6324 Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,11.00.6000.6324 AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 Pinnacle LPCM PCM Transform Filter,0x00200000,0,0,PCLELPCMTransform.ax,1.00.0002.0041 Cirrus Logic USB-DVR2 Sink,0x00200000,1,0,usbdvr2snk.ax,4.01.0001.0000 MediaSampleGrab,0x00200000,1,1,FrameGrab.ax,2.00.0000.0000 Pinnacle(dicas) MPEG-4 Multiplexer,0x00200000,1,1,pclempeg4mux.ax,1.05.0152.0000 CyberLink Editing Service 3.0 (Source),0x00200000,0,2,P2GEdtKrn.dll,3.00.0000.1109 Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,11.00.5840.6324 Cirrus Logic USB-DVR2 Splitter,0x00200000,1,2,usbdvr2splt.ax,5.04.0001.0000 Emuzed Flow Control,0x00200000,1,1,FlowCtrl.ax,2.00.0000.0001 AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6000.16724 WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, 9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6000.16386 Pinnacle Audio Scene Analyzer,0x00200000,1,0,DWAudioSceneAnalyzer.ax,1.01.0002.0046 WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll, Microsoft TV Caption Decoder,0x00200001,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,6.00.6000.16386 MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 ESinkAudio,0x00200000,1,0,ESinkAudio.ax,1.00.0000.0000 Pinnacle(dicas) MPEG-4 Audio Decoder,0x00200001,1,1,pclempeg4auddec.ax,1.06.0152.0000 CBVA DMO wrapper filter,0x00200000,1,1,cbva.dll,6.00.6000.16386 DVC 150 XFormDEADCAFE,0x00200000,2,0,DVC150XFormDeadCafe.ax,4.00.0001.0000 MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6000.16681 SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 CyberLink Video/SP Decoder,0x00600000,2,3,P2GVSD.ax,6.00.0000.2310 VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.6000.16386 Pinnacle Audio Codec,0x00600000,1,1,PcleAudioCodec.ax,1.00.0145.0000 Pinnacle AC3 Audio Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLEAC3MediaSource.ax,1.00.0002.0171 MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6000.16724 WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, Internal LMRT Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,LMRTREND.dll,6.00.0004.0827 CyberLink Audio Effect,0x00200000,1,1,claudfx.ax,5.00.0000.1316 Pinnacle Image Scaler,0x00200000,1,1,pcleCSC.ax,2.04.0282.0000 Pinnacle AC3 Encoder (5.1 Channels),0x00200000,1,1,PcleAC3Enc5_1Ch.ax,1.00.0135.0000 Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,2,0,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6000.6324 Pinnacle Cutlist Video Source 3,0x00200000,0,0,PCLECutlistSource3.ax,3.00.0000.0126 Pinnacle MPEG4 Video Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLEMPEG4MediaSource.ax,1.00.0002.0239 Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, CyberLink Line21 Decoder Filter,0x00200000,0,2,CLLine21.ax,4.00.0000.3924 Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6000.16681 CyberLink Video Regulator,0x00200000,1,1,P2GRGL.ax,2.00.0000.3328 Pinnacle Windows Media Renderer2,0x00200000,0,0,WMRenderer2.ax,1.01.0000.0000 P2G Audio Decoder,0x00200000,1,1,P2GAud.ax,6.00.0000.1027 DVC150 Source,0x00200000,1,1,usbdvr2src.ax,5.04.0006.0003 MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 Pinnacle Single Audio Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLESingleSource.ax,1.00.0002.0130 TrueMotion 2.0 Decompressor,0x00600001,1,1,tm20dec.ax,1.00.0000.0001 DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6000.16386 Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16681 Pinnacle Video AntiJitter,0x00200000,1,1,pcleCSC.ax,2.04.0282.0000 CyberLink Video Effect,0x00200000,1,1,P2GVidFx.ax,1.00.0000.2030 Pinnacle Scene Detect Filter,0x00200000,0,0,DWSceneDetect2.ax,15.00.0002.0056 CyberLink AudioCD Filter,0x00600000,0,1,CLAudioCD.ax,5.00.0000.1613 Pinnacle Single Video Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLESingleSource.ax,1.00.0002.0130 Pinnacle(dicas) MPEG-4 File Reader,0x00200000,0,1,pclemp4filereader.ax,1.05.0152.0000 PICVideo M-JPEG 3 DirectShow Decompressor,0x00800001,1,1,pvmjpg30.dll,3.00.0000.0012 Pinnacle MPEG4 Audio Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLEMPEG4MediaSource.ax,1.00.0002.0239 Pinnacle MPEG2 Demux II (MovieBox USB version),0x00200000,1,2,PcleDemux2MBox.ax,2.00.0001.0004 CyberLink Audio Noise Reduction,0x00200000,1,1,P2GAuNRWrapper.ax,2.00.0000.1017 Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6000.6324 Frame Eater,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, Pinnacle MCE Multiplexer,0x00200000,2,1,PCLEMPEGBox.ax,5.00.0584.0000 CyberLink Load Image Filter,0x00200000,0,1,CLImage.ax,3.00.0000.0907 Pinnacle Quality Controller,0x00200000,1,1,DWQualityControl.ax,1.00.0000.0000 CyberLink MPEG-2 Splitter,0x00805000,1,2,P2Gm2spliter.ax,2.04.0000.2301 Allocator Fix,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, Pinnacle Video Block Filter,0x00200000,1,1,pcleCSC.ax,2.04.0282.0000 CyberLink Audio VolumeBooster,0x00200000,1,1,P2GVB.ax,1.00.0000.1008 Pinnacle Stream Source Filter,0x00200000,0,1,StreamSource.ax,1.00.0002.0012 Pinnacle MPEG Source 2,0x00200000,0,3,PCLEMPEGSource2.ax,2.00.0004.0206 ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6000.16681 MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6000.16386 MPEG Timeshift File Reader,0x00200000,0,1,TimeshiftFileBox.ax,4.00.0318.0000 Pinnacle Field Reverser Filter,0x00200000,0,0,DWFieldReverser.ax,3.02.0002.0011 Capture ASF Writer,0x00200000,0,0,WMM2FILT.dll, Cyberlink Dump Dispatch Filter,0x00200000,1,0,P2GDumpDispatch.ax,1.02.0001.2412 Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16386 Pinnacle Time Fixer Filter,0x00200000,0,0,TimeFixer2.ax,1.00.0002.0011 Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,,6.06.6000.16681 Pinnacle Image Converter,0x00200000,1,1,pcleCSC.ax,2.04.0282.0000 Pinnacle VideoInfo Changer Filter,0x00200000,0,0,VideoInfoChanger2.ax,1.00.0002.0011 SmartSound Soundtrack,0x00400000,0,1,DirectQX.dll,3.00.0002.0007 SmartSound SDS Reader,0x00400000,0,1,SDSReader.dll,3.00.0002.0007 Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16681 Pinnacle AC3 Encoder (2 Channels),0x00200000,1,1,PcleAC3Enc2Ch.ax,1.00.0135.0000 Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, CyberLink Audio Resampler,0x00200000,1,1,P2GAuRsmpl.ax,1.00.0000.2625 Proxy Sink,0x00200000,1,0,WMM2FILT.dll, Pinnacle AVI Video Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLEAVIMediaSource.ax,1.00.0002.0226 DivX Decoder Filter,0xff800000,1,1,divxdec.ax,5.02.0001.1335 Proxy Source,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll, Pinnacle File Writer,0x00200000,1,0,mpegrender.ax,1.00.0000.0014 Pinnacle Bender AudioPrefilter2,0x00200000,1,0,PCLEBenderAudioPrefilter2.ax,1.01.0000.0002 WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6000.6324 CyberLink MPEG-1 Splitter,0x00805000,1,2,P2Gm1spliter.ax,2.04.0000.2301 Pinnacle Error Handler,0x00200000,1,1,PCLEErrorHandler.ax,1.00.0000.0003 VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.00.6000.16386 WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, File writer,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16386 MPEG Timeshift File Writer,0x00200000,1,0,TimeshiftFileBox.ax,4.00.0318.0000 Pinnacle MPEG Layer-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,PCLEMPEGBox.ax,5.00.0584.0000 Cyberlink File Reader (Async.),0x00200000,0,1,P2GReader.ax,3.00.0000.3016 CyberLink M2V Writer,0x00200000,1,0,P2GM2VWriter.ax,1.03.0000.2017 Pinnacle MP3 Audio Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLEMP3MediaSource.ax,1.00.0002.0173 Pinnacle MPEG Adjust,0x00200000,1,1,PCLEMPEGBox.ax,5.00.0584.0000 Pinnacle MPEG Audio Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLEMPEGMediaSource.ax,1.00.0002.0243 Pinnacle AVI Audio Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLEAVIMediaSource.ax,1.00.0002.0226 Pinnacle(dicas) MPEG-4 File Writer,0x00200000,1,0,pclemp4filewriter.ax,1.05.0152.0000 Cyberlink Dump Filter,0x00200000,1,0,P2GDump.ax,3.00.0000.3322 CyberLink Video Stabilizer,0x00200000,1,1,P2GVideoStabilizer.ax,1.00.0000.1017 Pinnacle Video Deinterlacer,0x00200000,1,1,pcleCSC.ax,2.04.0282.0000 Pinnacle WAV Audio Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLEWAVMediaSource.ax,1.00.0002.0067 CyberLink PCM Wrapper,0x00200000,1,1,P2GPCMEnc.ax,1.01.0000.0321 Pinnacle MP3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,PcleMP3Encoder.ax,9.03.0002.0030 DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,,6.06.6000.16386 WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, CyberLink Audio Decoder,0x00601000,1,1,claud.ax,5.00.0000.1816 CyberLink Video/SP Decoder,0x00600000,2,3,CLVSD.ax,5.00.0000.2023 CyberLink TimeStretch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,CLAuTS.ax,1.00.0000.1828 PICVideo M-JPEG 3 DirectShow Compressor,0x00100000,1,1,pvmjpg30.dll,3.00.0000.0012 Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16386 Pinnacle Silencer,0x00200000,0,0,PCLESilencer.ax,1.00.0002.0020 Cutlist File Source,0x00200000,0,1,qcut.dll,6.00.0002.0902 AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,,6.06.6000.16681 DivX Video Decoder 0004,0x00800000,1,1,DivXDec.ax,8.00.0001.0002 Pinnacle MPEG Video Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLEMPEGMediaSource.ax,1.00.0002.0243 AudioResampler,0x00200000,1,1,AudioResampler.ax,2.00.0000.0010 Pinnacle ASF Video Source,0x00200000,0,0,PCLEASFMediaSource.ax,1.00.0002.0176 Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,2,0,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6000.6324 WST Pager,0x00800000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.6000.16386 Pinnacle DV Decoder,0x00200000,1,1,pcleDVBox.ax,2.02.0135.0000 MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6000.16724 Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16386 Pinnacle Sample Sink,0x00200000,0,0,PCLESampleSink.ax,1.00.0002.0083 CyberLink Editing Service (Source),0x00200000,0,2,cledtkrn.dll,1.00.0000.2226 Pinnacle Audio / Video synchronisation filter,0x00200000,2,2,PCLESync.ax,1.01.0000.0005 Pinnacle wave source,0x00200000,0,1,DWWaveCapture.ax,5.00.0002.0029 Pinnacle MPEG 2 Decoder,0x00400000,2,1,PCLEMPEGBox.ax,5.00.0584.0000 URL StreamRenderer,0x00600000,1,0,LMRTREND.dll,6.00.0004.0827 WaveFormatEx Detective,0x00400000,1,1,WFXDetective.ax,1.00.0000.0001 SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.6000.16386 Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.6000.16386 WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.6000.16724 Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,11.00.6000.6324 WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,WMM2FILT.dll, StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6000.16386 AXWavRender,0x00200000,1,0,axwavrender.ax,4.02.0187.0000 CyberLink TimeStretch Filter (CES),0x00200000,1,1,P2Gauts.ax,1.00.0000.2212 Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,,6.06.6000.16386 Pinnacle DCxx MJPEG Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,MjpgDecompress.ax,3.01.0000.0003 Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6000.16386 CyberLink TL MPEG Splitter,0x00200000,1,2,P2GTLMSplter.ax,3.01.0000.1122 Pinnacle MPEG 2 Splicer,0x00200000,2,3,PCLEMPEGBox.ax,5.00.0584.0000 AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 CyberLink MPEG Muxer,0x00200000,2,1,P2GMpgMux.ax,5.00.0000.2221 WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,WMM2FILT.dll, NetBridge,0x00200000,2,0,netbridge.dll,6.01.6000.16386 AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,,6.06.6000.16681 Pinnacle MPEG Demuxer,0x00200000,1,3,PcleMPGDemux.ax,5.00.0579.0000 WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, Pinnacle MPEG 2/AVC Multiplexer,0x00200000,2,1,PCLEMPEGBox.ax,5.00.0584.0000 Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 Pinnacle DV Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,pcleDVBox.ax,2.02.0135.0000 AVSynChronizer Filter,0x00200000,2,2,AVSynChronizer.ax,2.00.0000.0005 Pinnacle(dicas) AMR Audio Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,pcleamrauddec.ax,2.03.0152.0000 Pinnacle MPEG 2 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,PCLEMPEGBox.ax,5.00.0584.0000 WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll, AVI_PASS,0x00800000,1,1,AVI_PASS.ax,2.00.0000.0000 Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,11.00.5840.6324 AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16386 Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,,6.06.6000.16681 File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6000.16681 File Source 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Converter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6000.16386 Audio Renderers: Speakers (Realtek High Definiti,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16681 CyberLink Audio Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,CLADR.ax,5.00.0000.1717 Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16681 Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16681 DirectSound: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6000.16681 sorry for clogging up space i dont know what parts u want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ookie Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 thanks for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroslfc5 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Good news, si My graphics card is...really old from three years ago. The demo only plays in 2d mode, but decided to invest in a new Dell XPS... I wonder if SI have shares in any of the big laptop manufactors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 thanks so much si if only ea could be a bit more like you guys...sorry for clogging up space i dont know what parts u want You've already created a thread asking this... And you can delete everything below and including the words Sound Devices... ------------- Sound Devices ------------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abs_UK Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I have always stressed that SI have one of the best after sales customer services around and this post goes to show how much they do care about their product and customers.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I have always stressed that SI have one of the best after sales customer services around and this post goes to show how much they do care about their product and customers.. What? Fixing the game so it actually runs on alot of peoples computers that are over the spec requirements they posted? That's more caring about making money with people buying the game then caring about the customer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlaire Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 will 3d work now then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eshaan Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Miles said there will be a compatibility patch for the demo ...Brilliant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
442master Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 yesssssssss i can soon get my fm fix! great work si just ordered a PNY Geforce 6200 128MB AGP Graphics Card hope that ill run 3d because my 64mb wasnt up too the job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Awesome! Hope this stops the 'not responding'/game freezing problems I have had. Don't think I am the only one on Radeon x1200 who has had that problem. Nice work SI! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Awesome! Hope this stops the 'not responding'/game freezing problems I have had. Don't think I am the only one on Radeon x1200 who has had that problem. Nice work SI! On the other hand, my graphics card is the same as yours and i have had no problems at all! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0x0r Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 i think you're all insane. you're saying that no other company would make a patch to fix a problem that shouldn't have been there in the first place? christ All the graphics cards that couldn't run it were under the minimum spec... They are cards that no-one ever guaranteed WOULD run the game. Hardly a problem that shouldn't have ever been there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0x0r Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I wish people would stop with this sort of jibe. My PC is less than 9 months old and MORE than meets the minimum specs, but my 3d is jerky and pretty much unwatchable. It's not just the "old" cards that are a problem, it's certain TYPES. And they'll be in 2nd hand shops and ebay because like any company they want to minimise costs. Somehow I don't think SI are going to shrink back at the idea of spending £80 on a new graphics card... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 All the graphics cards that couldn't run it were under the minimum spec... They are cards that no-one ever guaranteed WOULD run the game. Hardly a problem that shouldn't have ever been there. No no no no. You are wrong. Some Intel chips are above the min spec and 3D isn't working. For some the game won't load. For alot of people the demo won't install or run even though they are way over the minimum specs If you bothered to read the technical issues threads you'd know this instead of making such an ignorant statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ookie Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 All the graphics cards that couldn't run it were under the minimum spec... They are cards that no-one ever guaranteed WOULD run the game. Hardly a problem that shouldn't have ever been there. you might want to re-read some of the threads in that case. regardless of that the minimum specs are ridiculously high for a 3d ME that's kinda crappy, considering. also, read what andrew said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweed Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 What? Fixing the game so it actually runs on alot of peoples computers that are over the spec requirements they posted? That's more caring about making money with people buying the game then caring about the customer. You do realize they aren't mutually exclusive, right? It is possible to care about your customers and their needs while still making a profit. Some people in this world still do take pride in what they do, something I think is true of SI. If it were just about the money the Collyer (sp?) brothers would have taken their money from the Sega deal and just went home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 You do realize they aren't mutually exclusive, right? It is possible to care about your customers and their needs while still making a profit. Some people in this world still do take pride in what they do, something I think is true of SI. If it were just about the money the Collyer (sp?) brothers would have taken their money from the Sega deal and just went home. They have to fix the game for it to sell. That's 100% true. The game not working on peoples machines means a bad image for SI and for Sega, which means a loss of money in the long term. Whether they "care" about their customers or not I don't really care and i don't wish to speculate on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 On the other hand, my graphics card is the same as yours and i have had no problems at all! Really? Mine has improved to be fair but still freezes now and then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmurfDude Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 You do realize they aren't mutually exclusive, right? It is possible to care about your customers and their needs while still making a profit. Some people in this world still do take pride in what they do, something I think is true of SI. If it were just about the money the Collyer (sp?) brothers would have taken their money from the Sega deal and just went home. I agree. SI have shown countless times they care about their game and they care about their fan base Last year some of the SI team stayed up until midnight just to get a patch out and make people happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ookie Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 ahhhhhhhhh. love it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne\'o Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 i remember in 08 i had lag during the 2d game, still get it in 3d now. i thought i tmay be down to RAM, any how, how on earth is this game going to work via net work play now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberto286 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Well done SI:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snootyjim Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I wish people would stop with this sort of jibe. My PC is less than 9 months old and MORE than meets the minimum specs, but my 3d is jerky and pretty much unwatchable. It's not just the "old" cards that are a problem, it's certain TYPES. And they'll be in 2nd hand shops and ebay because like any company they want to minimise costs. You'd be surprised how hard it is to find old cards boxed from retailers. Most online firms only sell one or two legacy graphics cards, not even nearly the kind of range that would be needed to find some of the ones that people have on here - and when I say legacy I mean 18 months or so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 "If you were to read our forums since, you might think that the demo release was not a good thing at all. Hmmm. Well considering that the people who don't read the forums have no way of responding in any way at all (positive or negative), then what makes Miles think that it was a good thing? (yes I'm being cantankerous lol). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnfieldRoad10 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 They're doing something to rectifiy the problem and still people are moaning. I could use a hell of a lot of expletives in this post but i shall refrain. Grow up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Does anyone know if this is going to fix the intel integrated chipset problem? WOuld be awesome if it would. Am kinda undecided about buying the game at the mo, without 3d I am happy to wait for FM2010 and then buy a new PC, with 3d I will buy the game no dubt about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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